http://readms.com/r/bleach/669/3338/1
It's happening.
>>139742471
And now you feel like number one.
>>139743023
ITSSS HABBENING :DDDDDDD
Bassed Zaraki
Also Kubo can
BERSERK ZARAKI
>>139743975
MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE
>>139744257
Like what?
>>139745916
A TRUCK
>>139746265
wow.
>Shikai cuts things better
>Bankai cuts things even better
That's some deep shit right there.
>>139746419
It's consistent.
I'm just wondering why did his skin turn red
>>139746540
He went full retard and can't control his power.
Literally berserk.
>>139746419
>>139746379
>>139746265
>>139745916
g-g-guys
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedOniBlueOni
remind me again how ywach was zangetsu
With this, Zaraki is now on the top 5 strongest characters ever in Bleach.
>>139746695
He is one of the five war potentials
>>139746642
>>139746605
GUYS ITS FUCKING SETSUBUN
ZARAKI HATES SOYBEANS WHICH ARE USED TO WARD OFF ONI
The custom of Mamemaki first appeared in the Muromachi period.[2] It is usually performed by the toshiotoko (年男) of the household (the male who was born on the corresponding animal year on the Chinese zodiac), or else the male head of the household. Roasted soybeans (called "fortune beans" (福豆 fuku mame?)) are thrown either out the door or at a member of the family wearing an Oni (demon or ogre) mask, while the people say "Demons out! Luck in!" (鬼は外! 福は内! Oni wa soto! Fuku wa uchi!?) and slam the door.[4] This is still common practice in households but many people will attend a shrine or temple's Spring festival where this is done.[5]:120 The beans are thought to symbolically purify the home by driving away the evil spirits that bring misfortune and bad health with them. Then, as part of bringing luck in, it is customary to eat roasted soybeans, one for each year of one's life, and in some areas, one for each year of one's life plus one more for bringing good luck for the year to come.[6]
>>139746746
The war potentials are not ranked for powerlevel.
Urahara is there and he is not on the top 5 strongest characters.
Get on my level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPpydm2-0PQ
>>139747099
>Implying a simple Hadou #4 Byakurai wouldn't kill Goku
>>139747099
Goku was knocked out by poison recently in Dragon Ball Super.
Mayuri says hi.
Askin says hi.
Gin says hi.
>>139746973
His bankai + his intellect and keikkaku potential are dangerous as fuck, though
>>139748343
Dangerous in a war situation.
In a 1v1 with no prep time his powerlevel is not that good. He's high tier among captains but that's all.
>>139748343
Remember Urahara is a war potential for his "Means" or i.e. his ability to strategize and find solutions. hes got decent power, but his potential is in his Utility not brute force.
ZARAKI JUST WENT FULL RED ONI
Kinda sad to think that gremmy is stronger than the "miracle" though
>It's fucking nothing
>mfw this chapter didn't disconfirm the theory that Kenpachi is actually Yachiru's sword instead of the other way around
>mfw it's even more likely due to Yachiru's previous weird friends and Kenpachi going legit monster-y now with the red skin
>>139748626
Gremmy died to Kenpachi's power in shikai. If he tried to copy his power in bankai...
I've no idea where I'm going with this.
>>139748626
How?
Gremmy didn't even push Kenpachi into going bankai, Gerard did.
In a one on one, Gerard is a bad opponent for Gremmy even. Gremmy's imagination would do for Gerard what it did for Kenpachi. Any fear or thought that Gerard has more up his sleeve or might still live, or might get stronger, bigger, etc. would all allow Gerard to pull off miracles.
>>139748516
Kenpachi is so dumb he would get in Urahara's bankai's range faster than Orihime can say "Kurosaki-kun", and be reconstructed into a pile of steaming shit.
>>139748780
The thing is I looked over the manga scans, gremmy was never "afraid" of kenpachi. If gremmy so wished it he would of turned Miracle mans bones onto dust.
Only thing I could think of during this chapter wasRULES OF NATURE
>>139748872
>looking over manga scans lets you read character's mind
Kek.
And even if Gremmy did that, literally any thought or fear that Gerard would still somehow someway by a miracle pull something out of his sleeve to still live, would let gerard do just that.
that's why Gerard does his whole miracle speech, it instantly got Byakuya and shinji for example worried he'd do something to the point that Byakuya attacked twice and Shinji said if he'd lived he seemed the type to take them all out
And
>would have
ftfy
>>139749023
*oh, and Gremmy was afraid
Can we agree that Gerard>Lille>Pernida>Askin?
>>139749127
Depends really.
I think Lille in all his devotion and zealousness, may be just the type who Gerard wouldn't be able to affect. Lille having absolute faith in the powers bestowed upon him by Yhwach and being the one closest to god, might make it so he thinks the possibility that anyone could survive his holy attacks is 0
>>139748516
Urahara is Bleach's Batman. Good fighter when caught unprepared, but given prep time he will completely wreck your shit up.
>>139749127
Nope. Askin has been the best enemy in this whole arc.
>>139749127
Askin > Gerard = Lille > Pernida
>>139748924
it's time for ken
TO LET 'ER RIP
>>139749625
>>139749666
I'm talking about power
>>139749127
>>139749666
>Pernida so low
Pernida is at least as good as chicken man.
>>139749127
Lille at his best is impervious to physical attacks, so I'd say hes the de facto strongest of the four. But between various immunities and regenerating factors its hard to say.
So 2 Gerards next chapter?
>>139748516
he doesnt need brute force when his bankai unravels reality
So we have Gerard, who has now actual angel wings against Kenpachi, who looks like a devil.
>>139750207
Pernida got litreally killed by a vice-captain. He's shit, I bet he' the hand the SK uses to wipe his ass.
Why someone would do this to poor Yoruichi and put it in release?
![latest[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/u84oagd.gif "latest[1].gif")
Her aura is his bankai
>>139749404
What? Who told you that Gerard powers are based on the opponent's perception?
>>139750531
Gerard did m8
![04-05[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/Afmes0w.png "04-05[1].png")
>>139742471
His bankai is simple but totally in Kenpachi's style, sword becomes a meat clever and his strenght multiplies by X amount, do you think he will calm down after he finishes the enemy or will we have 1-2 chapters of captains trying to stop a berserk Kenpachi?
>>139750447
i liked the 12-year-old korean ichigo too
>>139750436
Pernida is most likely adapting to the cancer and regenerating sucessfully. I would even say none of the Schutzstaffel dies so far. Lille is alive, Gerard is probably back next chapter, Askin is dying, but not dead and Pernida could adapt to the cancer.
Has there been any sort of precedence in Bleach for demons, or oni or what have you?
It's just been ghost, super ghosts, and hyper ghosts.
>>139750436
>Pernida got litreally killed by a vice-captain. He's shit, I bet he' the hand the SK uses to wipe his ass
Lil lost to a weaker VC
>>139750427
>So we have Gerard, who has now actual angel wings against Kenpachi, who looks like a devil.
If man won't kill god, then the devil will do it!
>>139750771
Zaraki has been called a demon from the start.
Apart from that, there's Hell which is explored in a movie. It's just Hueco Mundo with flames though.
And Ulquiorra release of course.
>>139750344
Guessing he'll pull off a miracle to survive, and condense his body and powers into a smaller form.
Dropping the godly size and become like Jesus, God on Earth
>>139750766
Well for now it's a supposition. What would even happen then anyway?
>>139750812
>Lil lost to a weaker VC
Lille lost to himself, that zanpakuto isn't even really Nanao's.
The scale goes:
Lille>Gerard>Askin>Pernida
I'm still waiting for Shinji to get his screentime and bankai
He's still getting ahead of us, r-right?
>>139750447
I know right, out of shitload of decent Bleach art and colorings why would you pick shit like this
>>139751088
Why
Why would someone draw this and think it was okay?
>people thinking powerlevels matter in Bleach
The fight is won by whoever the plot needs to win. And for better or worse Kubo made a setting that can reinforce that.
For example Rukia's bankai, say she completely froze an opponent.
Plot demands Rukia to win : he stays frozen,gets chopped and dies
Plot demands Rukia to lose : enemy reiatsu helps him break out of the ice
And don't even get me started on the literal plot device called Kido, just enjoy the flashy fights and ride.
>>139751085
I hope when he does, it's against Aizen and it pushes Aizen to use his own bankai, or show a new aspect of his shikai.
That or against Yhwach so Yhwach will show that he perfectly understands whatever it does and whoop Shinji's ass.
>>139751085
People are saying that the RG will turn evil and they will use the remaining bankais against them.
I don't really see it though, I think at this point it's more likely Otto von Quincy will use Yama's bankai to resurrect new opponents for them to fight, possibly the original Gotei squad (Yama included).
>>139751210
Well that became clear during the first Espada fight, especially Aaroniro and Nnoitra, but it's kinda fun to pretend we don't see the puppeteer behind the curtain.
Even when he's not behind the curtain. And naked.
>>139751210
>The fight is won by whoever the plot needs to win. And for better or worse Kubo made a setting that can reinforce that.
No kidding. You think that his Bankai would've beat Pernidas?
>>139751210
>hating kido
I bet you always play as warriors or brawlers in RPGs.
>>139751062
That honestly depends on what happens once Ichigo confronts Yhwach. This arc is probably going to have a second half. The current part is called the seperation story. Yhwach planned an invasion to the world of the living, so they may be useful for that. There ,may be a Wonderweiss moment to show how screwed Ichigo is.
Gerard and Pernida will have a role because of their connection to the Soul King. Askin is one of the "MC" amongst the Sternritter and Kubo seems to like the guy. And Lille is alive, so Kubo has something planned for him. Though I hope that that will be more than getting killed by Kira.
Guys I'm reading this more like a transformation, in the vein of Yoruichi's Catporn. Zaraki not saying a word anymore but simply releasing his animal berserk hints towards that. Some of these characters simply release their inner demons as their ultimate form and it makes sense.
Also is any of you a girl I'd like to go out to dinner with someone tonight I'm so lonely
>zaraki bit off his arm, doesn't even make sense
>>139751488
I'm not even sure if his Bankai will beat Gerard. A captain revealing his Bankai for the first time does tend to loose. Also Kenpachi transformed first.
>>139751759
This. Gerard isn't done yet most likely, considering how Lille managed to survive Shunsui's bankai too. Someone new might arrive, possibly Shinji because he was around when Gerard transformed into a giant.
>>139751727
>It's Kenpachi, we don't have to explain shit
>>139751646
>Also is any of you a girl I'd like to go out to dinner with someone tonight I'm so lonely
Are you lonely enough to take the Amor of a strong black man instead?
>>139751616
the way things are going make me think Yhwach was on a suicide mission. he has been ageing exponentially. I dont think he is even the final boss. but i dont think kubo will pull a kaguya on us
>>139749127
I don't even know who those are
regards spee d. reeder
>>139751727
he pulled it off using his teeth
>>139752250
>regards spee d. reeder
>not Spaddo Dello Riddarr
This ain't One Piss fag.
>>139752160
Relatively popular theory is that the Gotei will be the actual enemy, because of their "for the sake of the seretei" mentality. Or Urahara or Aizen will unleash their ultimate master plan.
So his bankai literally turns him into Khorne?
>>139751759
If my knowledge of Kubo's writing follows through then Gerard will have an "I'm not left handed!" moment by pulling some bullshit and then Kenpachi will have an "I'm not left handed either!" moment by revealing that his Bankai has some additional tacked-on power or attribute that will allow him to just barely scrape out a win before being banished back into the Schrodinger's box where Bleach characters are exiled when the plot doesn't need them.
Every new bankai except 2 failed so what are the chances this one will fail too?
>>139752160
The final boss will be either Yhwach or Aizen. Think about Aizen's abilities, he's the only one who can realistically defeat Big-Y if his sense manipulation extends to what Yhwach can see from the future.
>>139752531
Then your knowledge is rather lackluster. Gerard will either heal himself and get stronger because that's his ability or he will use his Hogyoku powers to overcome Kenpachi. Kenpachi will be defeated and either we cut to Ichigo or someone else will enter the fight.
Is Mayuri vs Zombie girl + zombie Hitsugaya the most based fight in this arc?
>>139752692
Shunsui has the anti-god word that defeated the Soul King. Urahara has some plan involving Ichigo and Rukia. The thing with Aizen though is, that Aizen can't come near Yhwach because he's bound to a chair in the Seretei. At some point he will get out, but by that time Ichigo's confrontation with Yhwach already happened. I think their confrontation will decide whether Yhwach is the enemy for the other half or not.
>>139747549
Is this what we can look forward to if we ever get an ova of this arc?
>>139752853
It was one of the most unconventinal and most discussed at least. It alo had something for everyone. Mayuri being Mayuri. Giselle's greatness, Hitsugaya getting raped. Hitsugaya being badass. Lewd Bambietta. Arrancar, etc.
>>139752853
>girl
reminder askin is still alive
>>139753176
This.
>>139753120
Zombie Girl is what Giselle's called. Admittedly Zombie of ambigious sex doesn't have a nice ring.
>>139742471
HE FUCKING BIT THE ARM OFF
>>139752853
It was one of my favorite fights, but I still found the beginning of the arc and the initial SS invasion far more entertaining.
>everyone's dropping like fucking flies
>Yamamoto's bankai
>SKELETONS
God damn I was rigid for weeks
i miss aizen
Thread Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av9jyBLuSlE&nohtml5=False
>>139753287
Zombie Boy isn't ambiguous at all
>>139750771
There's Kazeshini, whose appearance is canon since it's from a sketch, and other zanpakuto spirits who are fairly demonish in appearance.
>>139753587
I can't remember there being any confirmation. And Yumichika smelling semen is not a confirmation.
>>139753464
im sure he misses u
>>139753590
>There's Kazeshini, whose appearance is canon since it's from a sketch
All the zanpakuto in that arc are canon. Renji's monkey looks like some kind of oni too.
>>139753590
That bitch ass nigga?
Fuck im
>>139743975
>inb4 he starts attacking ice shota and pretty boy
What I'm hoping is that new halves will just regrow from the severed halves, so that Kenpachi can demonstrate a power beyond just 'turning red and being stronger'.
Prequel movie where yamato fights bach 1000 years ago when?
Fullbringer spin off when?
Ichigo's family becoming the 'new generation' spin off with chad being an older mentor talking about the good ole days with ichigo when?
one off story talking about the legacy of the kenpachis and the significance of the title fucking when?
There's so much universe to explore in bleach.
>>139753013
>ova
>anything but ichigo time
Wake up, anon.
>>139754127
chad would be like kuwabara and it'd have a yu yu hakusho feel
all the people shown to have above average spiritual awareness would be the new cast of the show
>>139754127
>spin off of the faggots from an arc so bad it may as well have been a filler like the bounts
I'd sooner ask for a spin off with the zanpakuto spirits or even bleach GT.
>there are still people breathing through their mouths on this board who think Zaraki's shikai/bankai is a "meat cleaver" and not just the broken remains of a gigantic blade, symbolic of the sword's previous owner's death
>>139753926
He was kind of a turd but still a cool guy. I mean shoulder babbies make you cool in this manga.
I made a reaction image for you as I'm rereading this arc. It's significantly better as a single read than weekly, though that's to be expected. And filled with great expressions.
>>139754257
Why do people hate on the fullbringer arc so much? Genuinly curious, it wasn't bad. It brought some fresh wind into bleach until Kubo decided to bring back the shinigami
>>139754726
it was boring as fuck
I haven't read Bleach since chapter 628. Has Kubo progressed the story at all?
>>139753671
Even Charlotte called "Giselle" a boy
>>139754726
Decent concept but almost everything about it was stale, boring, and failed to deliver a satisfying end.
>>139754964
Just ignore that retard. He's pretending every week.
>I-I swear I'm not gay...
>>139754916
Try reading it
>see zaraki bankai looks a lot like ichigos old one
>remember the first time the hollow came out vs byakuya
>now know hollow is the sword
gaddamn Kubo.
>>139756316
>ichigo's inner hollow is the true zangetsu
>claims he doesn't have a name
>>139748466
>implying he wouldn't have several keikaku's prepared in case anyone ever randomly decided to 1v1 him
>>139753464
Me too
>>139752692
aizen wont be doing anything, he has a hundred seals on him and the keys are inside kyoraku's heart. i don't see how the fuck hes gonna break out if he couldn't have done so already
>>139756545
At that point he got his name stolen already
>>139756545
>>139757459
Kubo pulled that twist out of his ass, the volume poems of Zangetsu and Hollow Ichigo show that respectively.
Not to go full LoN here but Zaraki's bankai seems like an 'assimilation' type and is reminding me of post Dangai Ichigo or Aizen. Maybe Narita was closer to Zaraki's powerlevel than we had even realized?
>>139757673
「錆びつけば 二度と突き立てられず
摑み損なえば 我が身を裂く
そう 誇りとは 刃に似ている」
"If it rusts, it can never be trusted.
If its owner fails to control it, it will cut him.
Yes, pride is like a blade."
>>139757733
「我々は皆
生まれながらにして死んでいる
終焉は常に
始まりの前から そこに在るのだ
生きることが
何かを知り続けることならば
我々が最後に知るものこそが終焉であり
終焉をついに見出し
完全に知ることこそが
即ち死なのだ
我々は何かを知ろうとしてはならない
死を超越できぬ者は
何ものも知ろうとしてはならないのだ」
"We all
die as we are born.
We always find the end
before the beginning.
If to live
means to continually search for wisdom,
we'll find the end waiting after our last lesson.
To finally see the subtlety of the end
and understand it completely
is what it means to die.
We cannot help ourselves from growing wiser.
Those who are helpless to their search for knowledge
are those who cannot transcend death."
Notes: This was very difficult to word into coherent English. To note, "the end" ("shuuen" (終焉)) is literally "demise."
>>139757188
maybe after his fight and nearly mortal wound, kyoraku's seals broke and aizen pretends he is still bound.
I dont get why are you so exited.
Yea, Zarachi is shown as the beast he really is, but im quite sure this is not Kenpachis real bankai, not its final form at least.
I think right now he only recived the Bankais energy but he's not using it, but he's merely possessed by it,
Just look at its trasformation, his uncomplite sword and how Yachiru's symbol (the pink stuff on his shikai) isnt visible: he's a puppet of his own bloodlust.
I guess when the fight will be over we will see Yachiru saying something like
"But that's not how you use it your strenght, Ken-chan! Try to focus next time"
And THAT will be when we will be allowed to behold hist true strengh and badassery
>>139757895
He wouldn't train bankai, it's already unlikely that the Shinigami will ever face a foe as formidable as the Quincies. Who the fuck would he use it against?
>>139750603
"The masses" is an abstract concept, not "the dudes currently near me". Thinking otherwise is a beyond-autism tier failure at reading comprehension.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z8h9hsWpHQ
If they don't play this OST for Kenpachi's bankai in the anime when it returns, then they should fire the sound director.
>>139751488
>nonsense translation
>not even ordered in the way it's supposed to be
Why do we put up with this shit?
>>139752356
while said arm was mid-punch
It's not like Gerard just kept his arm still or anything.
Every week... expecting to see her... every week... she's not here.
why live
>>139746540
He's the Red Demon Ogre. Now who is the Blue One?
>>139758626
Ice Faggot?
>>139758626
Gerard.
Both will be revealed to have limitless growing power and will engage in an endless battle of thousands of years and be happy fighting their equal until the end of time.
>>139753366
RIP AND TEAR, RIP AND TEAR!!
>>139756545
Because he's not gonna tell his name to a cunt. Thats for Ichigo's ears only
How can Byakuya and Hitsugaya compete with this insane power creep anymore?
Zaraki might have just surpassed Old Man Genocide's level with his bankai.
>>139759111
>how can they compete
well neither Byakuya nor Icefag are one of the 5 SWPs
so yeah
>>139759111
I think he did that with his shikai already, in sheer cutting power.
>>139757733
Pride
Quincy pride
>>139759281
Byakuya's probably going to keel over in a few hours because its heavily iplied in past chapters that he's living on borrowed time. Icefags Bankai is still in its infancy, but it'll be thousands of years before he can come close to where Zaraki is now.
>>139757784
Ichigo will die
it's weird though. I remember once Kubo tweeted that he made the design of older Ichigo, but deleted the tweet shortly after.
>>139759424
Quincy pride. Worldwide.
>>139742471
>this chapter's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibHU7K2mnVg
>>139750638
>his bankai is half of Ichigo's shikai
Ok
Is Kubo just complete ass pulling so he can beat Naruto at asspulling, or was this the plan all along...
>>139760707
He's aiming to dethrone Araki
>>139760553
>The point where it snaps off is consistent with where kenpachi originally cut a notch into ichigo's shikai in soul society arc
POETRY
O
E
T
R
Y
>>139759111
Surpassed Zanka no Tachi? I doubt it. But yes at this point Zaraki has surpassed Byakuya and Hitsugaya, but those two both have years or experience ahead of them, whereas Zaraki is hitting his peak very late.
>>139760707
What asspull? All I see is consistent arc foreshadowing.
>>139760792
You know what's poetry? Zaraki became the oni to Unohana's noh theme
>>139760792
>Zaraki's bankai is calling upon the power of all swords he's crossed
>First Ichigo shikai
>Then Tosen/Komamura
>Then Nnoitra
>Finally, as Shunsui predicted because mastermind, Unohana Yachiru herself
>>139760995
https://nohmask21.com/hannya3/makaihannya4.jpg
>>139754964
>>139755119
Not that anon, but there is a suspicious lack of confirmation from either Giselle or Kubo. Giselle didn't even deny it. So all options should be fair. But considering that Gerard is actually a heart and the sheer number of Sternritter that have weird bodies, Giselle may have not a normal body and the truth is not just a simple manner of boy or girl. I hope for somethink completely fucked-up, honestly.
>>139758298
I think the best comparison for Gerard's power is the Hogyoku.
>>139759630
WE WUZ SOUL KINGZ!
>>139761198
Now where is that image of Ishida taking pride in his whiteness...
>>139761129
It was specifically confirmed in the last character book.
And before you say that it wasn't written by Kubo, if there were any glaring inconsistencies then it wouldn't have gone unnoticed by Kubo.
In other words, stop posting the same wrong information over and over again.
>>139759630
So far the only other Quincy with Quincy pride was a giant hand. The Sternritter from the old generation lived in a time where Quincy were a majority or even the only race in the world of the living. Them having Quincy pride would be like us having human pride. The new generation probably never knew they were Quincy before Yhwach recruited them. They had never the oportunity to deveope Quincy pride. Instead it was all "MUH MAJESTY". Pernida may have Quincy pride because it may be self-conscious of being a hand,
>>139760995
Those are masks, right? Who else wears masks? Hollows. Kenpachi part hollow confirmed.
>>139761485
What character book? The last character book was the 13th Blades. And that was all about the Shinigami. Even Ichigo wasn't in it. The only Sternritter that were mentioned were Gremmy and Shaz. And that was only because of Narita's novel.
>>139761704
There was a short Sternritter guide released before it that confirmed Giselle's gender as male. Same argument applies. Get fucked by trap dick
>>139760958
Yeah autism does that.
>>139761808
Ah you mean the extra pages at the end of Jump? They are more of a recap made by some guy at Jump. They have quite some mistakes. There was recently one that said Soken died ten years ago, which is wrong because that would mean he died a year before the Auswahlen. But when we saw him in a flasback, Katagiri was nowhere to be seen and Uryuu had to ask Ryuken, why he hated the Quincy.
Those recaps are as accurate as the Pokémon Trainer's Choice 4kids did back in the day.
>>139762138
*Uryu had to ask Soken, why Ryuken hated the Quincy.
We all know that Zaraki will turn out to be Yachiru's bankai.
huh.
Is it just me, or does Kenpachi's blade get bigger each time it draws blood?
So, did you guys notice?He's still only using one hand.
>>139754127
I want a spin off with all the Kenpachis too, there if also that one in the novel and I remember he was strong as fuck, locked in the same place as Aizen
I wish we could get more the Hell in bleach too, have some kind of boss demon character on each level, in the 9th being the demonic Soul King Lucifer of Bleach
So one of the main themes is arc is Captain + Vice-Captain = Wrecking ball
Wonder if Shinji resents getting saddled with the most useless VC in Soul Society.
>>139756316
I miss the true King :(
>>139762138
I don't see where your logic is coming from. Giselle is confirmed male, you might as well just deal with it.
>>139763078
She might have been born with male genitals, but she's a girl.
>>139763165
A girl with balls and a dick, in other words 'male'.
I'm not talking about her preferred pronouns here.
>>139763165
Are you implying he changed his chromosomes?
>>139763274
We have an entire society of people that are literally composed entirely of magic. Plus Mayuri.
A genetic sex change is one of the more believable things that would have happened in recent memory.
>>139763237
>>139763274
Transgendered girls are still girls. Being male or female is a social construction.
Gigi is a girl even if she has a penis, which we don't actually know for sure. Case closed.
>>139763358
>We have an entire society of people that are literally composed entirely of magic
Objectively wrong.
>>139763358
>hat are literally composed entirely of magic. Plus Mayuri.
>A genetic sex change is one of the
Don't forget Benihime. Urahara can just restructure your body and genes.
>>139763377
>>>/tumblr/
>>139763434
What?
>>139763078
The extra pages were not made by Kubo. You then said, Kubo would have noticed if there were inconsistencies. The error regarding Soken's death, which is much more important, wasn't noticed. This means Kubo is not involved and the extra pages are not accurate. Since they are not accurate, them saying Giselle is male may be equally not accurate. So we shouldn't take that as a confirmation for whatever Giselle. Giselle may turn out as male, female, intersex, genderless, some undead sex-changer, the living embodiment of the Soul King's dick or whatever, but the extra pages have nothing to do with that.
>>139763434
>/tumblr/
>using heteronormative pronouns
I don't think so, Tim.
>>139763377
Good bait, I almost typed a reply.
>>139763377
>which we don't actually know for sure
But we do; it was confirmed both in-manga and from a reliable external source. Fuck off.
>>139763471
>The error regarding Soken's death, which is much more important, wasn't noticed.
What error was this again? Source your bullshit or fuck off.
>>139763506
You're grasping at straws now.
Show me her supposedly canon dick pics, go ahead. There's no such thing as that in the manga, not even a bulge.
>>139763487
>I almost typed a reply
Nice try, but that's still biting.
>>139763583
Learn to subtext; was confirmed male by Yumichika, the biggest flamer in Bleach.
>>139762562
>Best pincushion ever
>useless
>>139763694
>was confirmed male by Yumichika
>confirmed
He CLAIMED she was male, yet he offered no proof, and he is not a reliable source since in-story characters can lie or be mistaken. Ergo, it's not a fact.
Again, show me her dick pics or a caption of her saying she is a male, otherwise you are merely speculating.
>>139762562
Well since Yumichika and Ikakku are there, seeing their captain use bankai, odds are they're going to use their bankais.
>>139763934
>he is not a reliable source since in-story characters can lie or be mistaken
He had no motive to lie nor any reason to be mistaken.
See you next week when I refute the same tired arguments until you admit you're gay.
>>139763934
if a character can't be trusted then Giselle saying she's female wouldn't mean jack shit. And obviously there won't be any dick pics because it's a shounen magazine. So by your retarded logic every single character's gender is a schroedinger's cat problem for forever. Even ignoring the obvious double standard you're still a retard.
>>139742471
kenpachi should just kill everyone and become the mc.
>>139763548
The translation for the timeline is:
1000 Years Ago: Yhwach is subdued by Genryusai Yamamoto.
Over 900 Years: Yhwach regains his pulse.
200 Years Ago: The Quincy Extermination is carried out.
Over 90 Years: Yhwach regains his intellect.
20 Years Ago: Masaki Kurosaki Hollowfies.
10 Years Ago: Souken Ishida dies through Mayuri's studies.
Over 9 Years: Yhwach regains his power.
2 Years Ago: Uryu Ishida vs. Ichigo Kurosaki
As I see know, that isn't the only inconsistency. Yhwach regained his power exactly nine years ago. Not over nine years ago. The second-invasion began on the ninth anniversary of Maski's death.
There was also one an error about the Shiba family. They said the Shiba family fell 20 years ago during EBTR. But I think the Shiba family fell either some time after EBTR because of unrelated events or was already fallen by the time Kaien died.
>>139764021
>He had no motive to lie
Troll the enemy
Anyways, he can't possibly know since he never saw her genitals. He was speculating as you do.
See you when you get actual proof of her gender.
UPDATE THE FOOKIN CHART SOMEONE
THIS IS UPDATE WORTHY
>>139764102
How stupid can you get?
If Yumichika would have claimed she's a man and she replied he was right, then there would be no room for doubt.
The issue is that he says she is a man and she says she is a woman, therefore we need to disregard their claims and stick to cold hard facts.
>>139762527
I pray at Kubo altar every day that he makes Azarshiro Kenpachi cannon, dude is strong as fuck and has cool character design. Wont happen tho, but one can dream.
>>139764186
Once again, I'm missing the supposed 'error'.
>>139764193
>Anyways, he can't possibly know since he never saw her genitals. He was speculating as you do.
It's called Author's intent. Kubo wouldn't have included Yumichika's comments if they weren't relevant. He was clearly trying to point out that Giselle is a male crossdressing as female.
>>139764408
And there'd still be every chance it was just a convoluted nonsensical series of lies you'd have literally zero basis for believing any one line over another. Do you understand logic at all? All you're doing is cherry picking hypotheticals that would lead to your prefered conclusion with zero consistancy in logic. The fact is that it was suggested she was not a woman with no confirmation, as opposed to the absolutely zero other implications made all throughout. You can either nitpick semantics to argue for uncertainy, or you can take on faith the implication made. You can not argue that uncertainy innately defaults against the existing implications it's ass backwards.
Wow another thread that descended into a discussion about Giselle. And that's not only happening here. Either Giselle has alot of fans or there is one loony fan. If it's the latter, I both respect the dedictation and pity him/her.
Ever happened that you began to dislike a character because of the fans?
>>139764478
And so OP that Aizen would cry in his chair. Didn't he or Godpachi casually reflect an Ultrafragor? We have some extremely broken characters in the manga, but at least there is a valid reason for they are that way. The Kenpachis just were.
>>139764542
>Kubo wouldn't have included Yumichika's comments if they weren't relevant
Speculation.jpg
By your logic, Hiyori calling Shinji bald is not her just being a troll but actually Kubo saying Shinji wears a wig. Don't be retarded, please.
>>139764653
You are the one not sticking to logic at all.
Claims not backed up by evidence can't be considered fact if you're sticking to logic.
There's no actual evidence that Yumichika's claim is true, so it's not a fucking fact, deal with it.
>>139764710
She's calling him 'baldy' which is just a typical Japanese insult which doesn't translate well.
>>139764542
That Soken died ten years ago. The Auswahlen were nine years ago. That would mean that Soken died before the Auswahlen and before Katagiri. When we saw Uryuu's flashback, Ryuken already hated the Quincy and was already distant to Uryuu. He also forbid Uryuu to interact with Soken. Uryuu had to ask Soken, why he was that way. Wouldn't it make more sense for him to ask his mother? Also Katagiri was absent in the flashback.
Ryuken's dislike for the Quincy and his distant relationship with both Uryuu and Soken were most likely a result of the Auswahlen and Katagiri's death.
Not to mention someone would need to explain Ryuken what the Auswahlen were.
>>139764851
>There's no actual evidence that Yumichika's claim is true, so it's not a fucking fact, deal with it.
Actually I just called Kubo, he said Giselle is male and you're a faggot.
>>139764945
>Speculation.jpg
The only 'errors' here are your lack of reading comprehension, anon.
>>139764851
I'd ask "arre you retarded" again but at this point it'd just be for rhetoric. You clearly either didn't read my post or are too illiterate to understand half of the words in it.
>>139765029
Back to you, retard.
Gigi being a man is not fact, this argument stands and will probably keep standing forever.
I'm sorry your gay fantasies will never be confirmed, but that's how it is.
Does Giselle use boku or desu?
>Red Oni Forme
Absolutely insane strength and blood lust
>Blue Oni Forme
Maybe something to where he actually puts his immense reiatsu to use like a spell blade or something? More playful personality like Yachiru?
>>139765197
Can't wait for the next databook then, also for your suicide.
>>139764851
wow you're actually too stupid for words. he specifically and explicitly outlined two viable options for the information given: that things can be taken at a perfectly literal level, in which case nothing is verifiable. or you can actually read into the author's intent and derive the fairly obvious meaning in the line and why the line is there at all. but there is no 3rd option.
>>139765024
So why do you think does Ryuken hate the Quincy and doesn't allow Uryuu to interact with his grandfather? Or why did he ask Soken and not his mother? Or what do you think was Soken's conversation with Soken about? Or why do you think did Ryuken discourage Uryuu from being a Quincy? Not to mention, by the time of Soken's death, he Uryuu and Ryuken were considered the last Quincy.
>>139752160
>that moment when Hashbrowns is the true villain
>>139765316
Jugram is very clearly the Tousen here. He'll profess loyalty to the end, then turn into some kind of outlandish monster and die an anticlimactic death as the not-final boss at the hands of the not-main character.
>>139765299
Try reading the manga and find out for yourself, instead of inserting your own backwards logic into it in order for you to justify the fact that you can't admit Giselle is male despite all evidence pointing towards it. This is literally the worst case of 'changing the goalposts' I've seen in a Bleach thread.
>>139765275
>404 - argument not found
Stick to the facts, please. You can't know Kubo's intent, you're not him.
Occam's razor says his intent was for Yumichika to troll Gigi for laughs, not to introduce information about a character's biological gender not matching her outward appearance and gender identity in a vague and convoluted way that nobody could take seriously because of the tone of the scene.
The fact that we are arguing over it, means Kubo wasn't serious at all about establishing Gigi as male, or that he failed miserably at doing so.
But then again, we will never know what was going on in his mind at the time, so it's useless to speculate.
>>139765589
>Occam's razor says his intent was for Yumichika to troll Gigi for laughs
Occam's Razor is that Gigi is male and you're autistic.
>>139765446
It's very clear that Soken did not die before the Auswahlen, because the flashbacks wouldn't make any sense otherwise.
>>139765693
If you're not the Gigifag, then provide concrete evidence for this line of reasoning.
Otherwise, fuck off.
>>139763947
I could see Yumichika's Shikai being useful for sapping a berserk Zaraki's energy until he can be calmed down. But what's Mr. Broke-Kai going to do? Try to tank shit even Gerard can't handle?
>>139762562
Momo is more useful than Shinji.
This is sad.
>>139764671
I cant recall the Ultrafragor feat atm, but yea both Kuruyashiki and especially Soya were/are broken as fuck, which is probbably a part of the reason he won't be included in the manga sadly.
>>139765687
The simplest explanation is that Yumichika is some sort of semen-bloodhound and can smell semen from 30 feet away and also that dudes just, what, leak semen on a regular basis, and chicks are never interested in getting filled and covered with it?
>>139765589
Again you literally can not read. Let me outline the obvious for you, since you're too stupid to figure it out yourself. The entire argument I made is that you're trying to act like disproving one assertion validates another when they are entirely unrelated. The facts as they stand are as follows...
1) That Giselle presents as a girl, which offers one immediate interpretation, but one that by your own retarded logic can not be trusted as it is entirely lacking in any "proof" which is of course unobtainable in the context of the manga as published and your own arbitrary perameters.
2) That the very fact that two characters --and by the obvious nature of a deliberately crafted narrative Kubo himself-- bring directly into question Giselle's sex. That is not something that happens without reason, intent, or implication. Again however it lacks the meaningless "proof" you're demanding.
At this point there is no "proof" of Giselle's sex in either direction. You can not argue on any logical basis that the second is an invalid assertion without invalidating the first as well, which is exactly what you just tried to do. The two available interpretations of events as presented is either that
A) author intent (go ahead and just Google it if you failed middle school English class, you don't have to pretend you know what you're talking about) points to Giselle being male and some form of crossdressing, transgender, hermaphroditic, etc...
or
B) nothing, on your own retarded terms, has any sort of proof in its favor and that NO assumption can be made as to Giselle's sex.
Neither of those lets you default your conclusion to Giselle being female just because you want her to be. That's what everyone is calling you a fucking retard.
>>139762562
>So one of the main themes is arc is Captain + Vice-Captain = Wrecking ball
Zaraki and Yachiru... and who else?
Just thought of The Captain Commander and glasses chick as I typed, but who else?
>>139765991
It was supposed to be a joke, anon. The only reason you don't find it funny is because you sincerely believe that Giselle is female.
Most disappointing Bankai sword ever.
>>139766042
Sorry, actually, 3rd would be that you trust character implicitly on the basis of them being characters but question their logic. But no one has addressed that angle here.
>>139763237
>>139763165
You all need to understand thefutas
So Whats his name turned into a Red Oni?
Ok.
Who is the Blue Oni?
This isn't a joke, I dont keep up with Bleach, I saw this chapter and the first thing I said was "ok he is a red Oni now" cause of the horns.
So who is the Blue Oni?
Is the fox guy still around?
>>139766103
Cool opinion. At least it changed more that Hitsugaya's.
>>139766103
It's not bankai.
His zan couldn't handle him going bankai, he needs to have it reforged.
>>139766103
It doesnt seem to me that this is his "true" or at least "complete" bankai. There was no release chant, and unless the theory that Zaraki is Yachiru's zan is true, to me this looks like he is either posessed by his zan's spirit/power, or yachiru is "lending" him her power, kinda like Old Man Zangetsu did to Ichigo in his fight with Kenpachi. Now that i mentioned that, and with somebody bringing up that his zan now looks like half of ichigo's old shikai, this just looks like the case to me. Maybe he will "evolve" throughout the fight, kinda mirroring his previous growth through the fights with ichigo, Nnoitra, Unohana ect
>>139765772
>>139765772
Ryuken said the Quincy will become extinct with Soken. If there were other Quincy left, they wouldn't become extinct. And I highly doubt Katagiri would have allowed Ryuken to treat Uryuu the way he did in the flashback. Or she would have at least explained, why Ryuken behaves that way. Instead Uryuu had to go to Soken, whom he wasn't allowed to meet. Ryuken only became cold towards Uryuu after Katagiri died and his cold treatment of him is very heavily implied to be Ryuken trying to protect Uryuu from Yhwach.
>>139766042
you're still being to vauge for this idiot. let me try. the possible arguments and their counters being made here are
>prove giselle's lying about being a girl
>prove giselle's not lying about being a girl
>prove yumichika's wrong about giselle not being a girl
>prove yumichika's not wrong about giselle not being a girl
if visible genitals are the only acceptable proof here, then none of the above can be done. i imagine even a drooling retard can't be confused about that.
Now for something urelated:
When is Ryouken going to appear?
and I don't mean the measly flashbacks.
>>139766404
This
Gerard's power is overcoming dire situations by getting stronger, right?
I think the same goes for Zaraki
They both keep getting stronger and stronger until Kubo pulls something outta his ass or just continue it for all eternity
>>139751088
>>139766511
Probably either once Ichigo needs to train his Quincy powers or once Yhwach invades the world of the living.
>>139766561
/r/ only the dead can know peace from this evil
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