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How long before this show gets too popular and we're not allowed to like it anymore?
>>139570624
the window has came and passed. It's chance of popularity is over.
Its shit, so you're all safe.
>>139570973
Basically this. Little fanservice, no harem, whiny characters, not a lot action that really pulls you in, little comedy.
It doesn't really have a lot of attributes that make it popular besides it being in the realistic fantasy genre.
>>139570624
Far too slow paced for widespread popularity. Too bad we won't see more.
>mobile poster make dumb threads
Everytime.
>>139571300
That's actually a good thing. I wouldn't want it to end up like SAO, NGNL etc etc where 96 percent of /a/ loved and discussed the show while it was airing but as soon as it became too popular it magically was a horrible anime and it wasn't allowed to be discussed anymore.
>>139571377
There should be a weekend waifu or Kantai collection thread somewhere if you look hard enough
>>139571476
I agree, I rather liked Grimgar. But unfortunately this type of anime is in the minority of genres that are popular, so its hard to envision it ever getting really popular.
Didn't it flop?
>>139571476
I like it when a board full of people known to have bad taste dislike something I like, though.
>>139571922
Idk out of all the shows I've scene this season it's gotta be top three at least.
>>139571922
No, it didn't. It did reasonably well, breaking 5k. I believe it was the 2nd or 3rd best selling anime of last season.
Konosuba, of course, was the top selling anime.
Doujins when
>>139570624
It was unrealistically dramatic, slow, sometimes cringy. This will never get popular. The only thing it had that a show needs to get popular is cute girls. It was missing way too much.
>>139572494
I thought it was great? Are you sure you're not just nitpicking the bad stuff? You truly didn't enjoy yourself while watching it?
>>139571922
>Didn't it flop?
It sold ok and the LN sales were significantly boosted, I'd say it was successful.
It wasn't a huge success though, maybe S2 one day if the planets align.
>>139572608
I gave it a serious chance. Watched up to nine episodes. I can get by a generic MC, but this guy felt like the author was trying too hard to make him seem generic. Music was a nice touch, and while I can appreciate the attention to background detail, multiple slideshows of art for several minutes at a time is too much.
And the slow aspect? I think I'm being fair. Where a lot of anime have different characters speak with probably a second or so in between each line of dialogue, Grimgar had about seven seconds in between each line. And generally these lines were short one word responses. There was simple much less content in each episode. Sort of like a normal anime is a sandwich filled with lots of tasty things, Grimgar felt like eating a block of tofu that about halfway in realized it should probably put a condiment on itself to have an actual taste.
>>139572306
I'm sure monogatari is going to sell the most.
>>139570624
Zzzzzzzzzzz
Wasn't there an announcement during yesterday's radio show?
>>139573023
I'm soo bored with monogatori though. i enjoyed this show more.
>>139573097
Nothing was announced for this garbage yesterday.
Momonji mentioned he will probably write a little about Yume's relationship with his Master for BD vol 3.
https://twitter.com/jyumonji_ao/status/716572100455104512
>>139573671
And poor Komatsu. She hasn't even realize how shit Yume and Ranta are treated in the LN.
She's better off with other books for her new Kindle.
Someone post that QUALITY
>>139573671
>>139572924
I really have a hard time believing you dropped it after nine episodes. It's possible but it just doesn't seem likely. If there was some all seeing anime god that could tell how much episodes you viewed I'd wager my next paycheck you didn't drop the anime after nine episodes. Like I said I could be wrong but I'm almost certain I'm not.
>>139573911
Not sure why you can't believe that. If you really have such a hard time, I guess you'd believe me if I said I binge watched it up to current at the time (9 episodes) and never went back to it after that.
Is it really that incomprehensible that someone happened to not like a show?
>>139573671
Ah no wonder it's amazon ranking suddenly spiked last night
>>139573671
Who's the author in this photo?
>grimshit
>already over and sold like shit
>popular
kekimus maximus
>>139571922
>Didn't it flop?
If anything, it was a surprise success hampered only by the fact they couldn't keep stuff in stock from having lowballed publication.
>>139575493
The author was not present. Others were the staffs for the Nico nama event.
>>139575646
Do we even have a photo of the author or is he another Kamachi?
>>139575539
Is rather not have it be popular so it can be discussed on 4chan. You know how 4chan is with anime that's popular no matter how good it is.
>>139575723
I think it's him on the left.
>>139570624
never heard of it
>>139570624
Maybe if it gets a second season?
>>139576051
If it seems underground enough I might be able to make a thread about a specific topic and have a decent discussion without users shit posting about how "uncool" and "overrated" the anime is in the future.
>>139570624
>How long before this show gets too popular
Maybe when every single anon get a job and form a family.
>>139571300
>being in the realistic fantasy genre.
the fuck? Its the same MMO-fantasy genre that every other "fantasy" anime nowadays is.
>>139576458
Noice!!! Except for the part that it's actually not.
>>139576521
except it 100% is.
>skills
>classes
>pointless grinding to get stronger
>bosses
>characters all came from the real world
the game mechanics are all spelled out, just because nobody talks about it doesn't make it a real fantasy universe, especially given how basic the world-building is.
>>139576665
>anime only
There's your problem.
>>139576665
>being this wrong
You fuckwits are why these threads are fucking cancer magnets. Fucking SAO bred a legion of retards like you that can't think past their WoW accounts.
>>139576808
What the Madoka are you talking about? If anything that guys on your side of the argument.
I feel this light novel had to be done.
A bunch of level 1 faggots getting trapped in an mmorpg fantasy world and... getting their asses wrecked by low level critters and goblins. Like it should be.
It flopped both in sales and popularity polls. I don't see how anyone can believe Grimgar is nothing but a dead franchise already.
>>139577207
That's a good thing. That's exactly what I wanted to hear. It means it will be safe for future /a/nnon do discuss on /a/.
>>139577411
Have you considered learning Japanese? This way you won't have problems finding stuff that never ever gets discussed in /a/ and barely soometimes in /jp/.
>>139577207
>>139577411
You guys are pathetic.
>>139577569
Thanks for your opinion.
>>139577509
I like discussing anime on /a/ that's the problem. If I try and discuss any popular anime it's almost always straight shit posting but any time I discuss "underground" "cool" anime it's actually good discussion. That's why I'm afraid of any new anime I like becoming popular. If you've been around 4chan long enough you'll know this to be true. One Punch Man is already starting to become too popular. It's mostly talked about how overrated and dumb it is in its threads despite most of /a/ showing it soo much love during its airing time.
CUTE
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>>139578094
That may be true but certainly not "best girl"
>>139578584
I respect your opinion
>>139578659
Thanks. She's probably second best if that helps. I can't help but love me some tsuntsun.
>>139578659
I especially like the sniw scene when I one hundred percent expected her to start crying but to my surprise she stayed strong. It made me like her character a lot more for some reason.
H I R Y U U
>Back to trickle of LN translation
Fug.
>>139579924
The light novel isn't only a piece of art but a piece of work. I underestimated how interested if be in it until I decided to give it a read over. Despite many of the characters not showing up in an otherwise improvised anime adaptation from manga to light novel I found it to be worthwhile. The hard work was shining bright in the anime. I look forward to more.
>>139580156
>The light novel isn't only a piece of art but a piece of work.
Dude, you don't actually believe this, do you?
It's garbage, just like other LNs that the authors are self-inserting.
>>139580366
I was just spouting nonsense. If you read that whole post its really just random bullshit. I've never read the light novel but I did like the anime though.
>>139580366
How can you tell if they're self inserting though? Just curious?
>>139581279
The writer practically admitted it on Twitter, even to the extent of practicing favoritism among the party characters. A lot of anons are basically counting down to Ranta getting killed off because the author dislikes him.
>>139573746
>Yume and Ranta
??
The fuck
>>139581540
Why would an author write a character they dislike?
>>139581540
I don't mind any of that though? Does that actually bother people? If you're looking that far into the show to the point you know who the writer likes and dislikes you're most likely going to get spoilers no matter what? That why I just usually view the anime first without looking that deep into the writers, animators etc. I kind of ruined Madoka for myself because I did just what I was talking about and found out Inu curry was doing some of the animation.
>>139581540
Sooner better, I hate to see him ends up with Yume.
>>139581702
When they make a whole bunch all at once and then pick favorites and don't want to devote effort into the ones they don't want to deal with anymore. Ranta is apparently a problematic character to write for, either that or the writer spends so much time in Haru's head that Haru's dislike for Ranta has actually influenced the writer's perception.
One caveat is that the writer really, really likes Ranta's VA, so that might be what saves Ranta from being junked even though he's in a perfect position in the LN to die tragically.
>>139581775
I like Ranta and want to see him end up with a good girl. It would be amazing if he ended up with Marry somehow.
>>139581872
>Ranta and Mary
Oh, you sweet summer child, don't read chapter 8 of the LN if you like Mary or think she and Ranta would ever make a decent fit.
>>139581279
- Too many internal monologues by the MC.
- The MC is ore-tsueeee special snowflake.
- Beautiful girl(s) fall in love with the MC,
among others.
Also, this>>139581540
If the authors create the MCs as opposite sex than their own, pretty sure the author will find it hard to self-insert. eg Sasamoto Yuuichi, Hiromu Arakawa etc.>>139581626
>>139581626
It was not part of the Nico event, but the casts were at Animate and Toranoana promoting the BD.
And yes, the 相合傘 pissed me off considering how Yume and Ranta are written in the LNs.
>>139581916
DONT SPOIL ME!!!!
>>139581988
As you wish.
What classes do you guys think would be the best in this anime? For some reason I think ranged would be op provided you were actually good with a bow. Mage seems like it would be the weakest considering the time it takes to cast spells.
>>139582429
Another reason I say ranged is because it seems like in this anime if you hit a Vito's spot on your enemy they die sort of like real life. Even if you weren't good with a bow you could just sneak around and shoot monsters off guard.
>>139582505
>vital spot
>>139582429
Archery is useless against armored opponents though.
>>139582945
The French at Crecy and Agincourt would disagree, but massed archery is a different beast from single so you do have a point.
>>139582429
Either hunter or thief. Any stealth class can either sneak by groups of enemies or slowly distract and take them down one by one.
It seems like the earlier levels of these 2 classes are pretty shit though, so you need a warrior to power level you.
>>139570624
I liked it, but my buddy hated it. He said it was boring and slow, said that erased was 3000x better.
We haven't talked much lately.
>>139573671
I wanna fug both Merii and her VA
>>139583230Garbage
>>139581751
This. Self-insertion does not automatically mean the story is bad. That being said Grimgar doesn't have the kind of plot I'd enjoy in a piece of literature, but if it doesn't get a second season I'll probably just read the LNs
>>139583285
>best girl
>any other than Merii
>>139583042
What about bow? Find glitch spot or shoot from trees?
>>139583431
What's up Momonji?
Also Yume+Komatsu >* that garbage and her boring VA.
>>139578094
>Hal
fucking
>>139583431
Change of pace! Whose your favorite male character?
They probably should have spent a bit more time on the character animation. The backgrounds were very nice though.
>>139583526
>Who's
Im on episode five and I'm so fucking bored. Nothing is fucking happening. I don't know what they even want to do. They hardly say anything of value ever.
>>139583488
>yume
>komatsu
Nothing can fix your shit taste
>>139583526
That's a strawpoll question.
>>139583611
Yours are the shit taste here.
>>139583592
I wouldn't recommend this if you have ADHD. Try Attack on Titan.
>>139583042
Well think about it this way if you are fighting up close with the bow you still get a dagger. That's basically the Thiefs main weapon.
>>139583443
Exploiting glitches in games work, but this anime appears to have high level AI with an exceedingly interactive environment. So trying to find an exploit when you only have one life and are underleveled would probably be too difficult.
Stealth and traps will always be the best kind of warfare. People often criticize such users because they believe it is unfair and underhanded, but that is just the cries of losers.
>>139583658
Nice response. Clearly there's no problem at all with the pacing.
>>139583813
Good. Problem solved.
>>139582994
You can't do turtle formation using knights on horses.
Im six episodes in and nothing has happened. Manato's character fed birds crumbs and then died. We learned nothing about him. A pivotal point in the series had absolutely no impact. There's no plot or objective other than to level up. The fact they're from another world hasn't even mattered.
Pretty much the only reason why I'm watching to the end is to understand how anyone can be so autistic as to defend this show.
>>139570624
Grimgar was hot garbage since day 1, A-1 really dropped the ball with the adaptation. Thankfully they picked it up again with Asterisk Wars S2.
>>139584022
No need to try hard to like it.Its okay.
>>139583977
You can't do it without shields, either. Seen a lot of those in Grimgar?
![[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 03 [720p].mkv_20160126_013957.223.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6zsYmFi.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 03 [720p].mkv_20160126_013957.223.jpg")
>>139584022
>not watching it wrapped in a warm blanket with a hot drink in hand while it rains/snows outside
do you even comfy
>>139584022
They are just tying to survive man, since when has that not been good enough? There is plenty to keep you entertained. Just think of it as a slice of life and watch it that way. Just because there isn't something happening every three seconds like some sort of crazy anime firework show doesn't mean it's a bad anime. They don't know where they are or how they got there the moon is red and they can't remember what basic things like cellphones and watches are. The shows trying to put you in their shoes. You are silos to feel frustrated about these questions and the fact that they don't seem to be making any progress and have no clear goal. If you feel that way the show is succeeding in what it's trying to do. They are just trying to survive and they say it many times in different ways. They literally don't know anything!
>>139584283
Why can't elevens for the life of them write a decent MC? Its either the 50inch length x girth MC that fucks everything on 2 legs with a pussy or the beta self-insert. There's no middle ground, fuck.God that image pisses me off, Haru should've been knee-deep in that shit
>>139584358
That bitch treats men like toys, he's wise to stay away from her.
>>139584358
Everybody says what you're saying but in truth it would be boring if they did it that way. The suspense of wondering which girl the mc will choose it more entertaining. What pisses me off is when the anime ends and they still don't choose.
>>139584451
For all the shit SAO gets that's one thing it did right. You knew for a fact at the end of the show he chose Asuna and there wasn't any mystery involved.
Once you stop having experiences with females vicariously through anime you'll stop giving a shit what the MC does with the female characters.
It's a show about being thrown into an unknown world and surviving, yet all /a/ fucking talks about it "muh harem". It's near fucking infuriating to see someone dislike one of the better shows out there simply because the MC didn't fuck something.
>>139584543
>Once you stop having experiences with females vicariously through anime you'll stop giving a shit what the MC does with the female characters.
I'm more concerned with what the garbage author does with the female characters though, especially not Merry.
![[HorribleSubs]_Hai_to_Gensou_no_Grimgar_-_01_[720p].mkv_snapshot_16.12_[2016.04.02_16.03.56].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sR9Mz6c.jpg "[HorribleSubs]_Hai_to_Gensou_no_Grimgar_-_01_[720p].mkv_snapshot_16.12_[2016.04.02_16.03.56].jpg")
>>139584543
>muh harem
All I care about is stinky Yume after a full day of fighting and Barbara.
>>139584283
The point of a show making you suffer with the characters like this is when they finally do get answers and figure things out and start "winning" it's far more satisfying as you feel you were in on the journey and it's much more rewarding as a whole.
>>139578094
>>139578659
>>139584686
The annons that flip out from just watching this show and not knowing what's going on and what's happening or what the goal is are likely the kind of people who would flip their shit and get themselves killed if such a thing really did happen to them.
>>139573746
What are they doing there?
Also Komatsu a cute
>>139584358
>middle ground
If only Haruhiro could remove his faggotry he'd be just that, some ordinary guy tried hard due to unavoidable circumstance and became a somewhat competent leader.
>>139584734
>>139578094
>>139578659
>>139584897
What kind of newb chooses to be a priest?
>>139584987
It just seems more likely that he would have been Magic and Shihoru would have chosen priest.
>>139581540
>>139581962
Shitmonji might just have wanted to stir up your autism with that twit, I mean it was right after vol 8 andRanta's apparent betrayal
Who would be more satisfying to rape from a bandit's point of view?
I finally get what people mean when they say a fanbase can make a show infuriating to watch.
>>139584763
"They don't like it. Lol, they'd probably die in this fictional world in a situation which would never happen, but not me since I liked the anime."
Jesus christ
I went into this about a few hours ago completely ready to just marathon the whole thing, but reading the mental gymnastics and self-assured superiority of its fans makes it annoying. It's like arguing with people who think SAO is a masterpiece, but worse since you're intelligent enough to get why a mainstream anime like SAO is mediocre, but too ignorant to get why people would justifiably get upset by this show.There are obvious flaws of this anime and you all want to just right it off as "oh that's what it WANTED you to feel".
I can believe the anime is trying to make you frustrated. The anime is a focus on the untalented characters of an rpg setting rather than the Gary Stu of the universe. It's completely understandable. Still though, there are obvious flaws of this anime. Manato died and got played off as the person who held the whole party together. The anime did a very poor job of show casing that. All we got was a short walk in which he fed birds and then stopped a girl from falling.
It's hard to understand how the characters are even friends. I mean this. Why did this group get together in this fashion? Why did the characters shown at the start split off in this fashion? It's really odd how the MC is assuredly getting into a relationship with red hair girl when they've had very little interaction.
It fucking sucks critiquing this anime because it's not flat out bad enough to say it's actually bad and the mediocre parts about character development and drama can be written off as "They're just trying to survive. They don't have the time to grow these relationships. If you were in this position even if you didn't get to know white hair-kun you'd still feel as distraught" because it's true.
>>139585136
Tanking healer is a thing though.
More importantly why did they originally decide to have a manlet like Ranta as their warrior? Haruhiro seemed like a better choice at the time. Not that it matters now that they have Moguzo.
>>139585307
>It's really odd how the MC is assuredly getting into a relationship with red hair girl when they've had very little interaction.
He interacts with Yumeand Rantathe most out of the whole cast.
>>139571300
>no harem
P-P-P-Picked the fuck up as soon as humanly possible
How did I miss that? Now I have something I can watch
>>139585307
Too long didn't read.
>>139585307
It's an alright anime, but that's about it. There's not really anything spectacular or even new about it. The world isn't innovative or nee. There's no new mechanics. Arguing about this show is like trying to argue which generic, highschool battle anime is the best out of bahamut/rakugai/asswar.
>>139585411
>>139583658
Right, and people who find this show boring are the ones with ADHD
mary da bess and will be winnar
>>139585465
Try Attack on Titan? You might like that better?
>>139585484
Fuck off with your garbage Momonji
>>139585486
I take it back, you are the SAO fanbase
>>139585517
Do you even know what this thread is about? It's people like you who make it so we can't post about any anime that happen to be " popular" without a shitstorm derailing the thread no matter how good the anime might be.
>>139585307
A lot of these judgements are plain wrong, but I won't bother with them because most importantly the main point holds:: this anime is nothing extraordinary.
>>139585517
Your just a big fat sheep!
>>139573911
Ha, I dropped it at episode 10. My complaints are about the same. It started out well, I especially liked the episode where they first killed a goblin. The rest of it though, was just tedious and empty. I actually liked those parts where they just panned over pretty art with music. It's kind of like the show just lost any purpose and you're just watching some losers play an RPG.
It's not like it doesn't happen. I dropped Gundam 00 2 eps before the end too. Sometimes a show is just so mediocre or bad you can't muster up the will to watch it to the end. And why should you, its supposed to be entertainment.
When are we going to get Ep 9's insert song?
>>139585422
I think the show could have done a lot better with some actual world building. All they really did was create a bubble in the world for the characters without showing us anything else. An enticing world is the best way to keep someone watching. It's why one piece still fucking goes on and will go on forever, even if every character is annoying.
>this thread
>>139570624
Grimgar is overrated. It is the most boring show this year. The characters are forgettable. It's a waste of time.
>>139585604
Do you?
>How long before this show gets too popular and we're not allowed to like it anymore?
To answer the first part. It won't ever be that popular because of the reasons people have stated in this thread. Anyway how is it fucking derailing? Is it derailing because people want to discuss the merits of cartoons good/bad without having its atrocious fanbase insult any diseenting opinion by saying they have a mental disorder?
I'm sorry, I'll take this as a cue to let the fans dick ride each other over their proclaimed war and peace of anime.
![[HorribleSubs] Haruchika - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_03.46_[2016.01.29_18.14.41].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DTrEGpO.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Haruchika - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_03.46_[2016.01.29_18.14.41].jpg")
>>139585286
>Merry's merris
>>139585687
It's a writing style annon it's a certain type of writing style. You aren't supposed to have the answers to the questions you have. You are supposed to be as close to being in the characters shoes as possible and that includes the frustration of not knowing what's happening or what's going on or what the point of all this is on top of the many other questions and problems they face in this world. They are just basically trying to make it through life while enduring the trials this new world presents. If you feel frustrated at the predicament these characters are in its because the show is doing what it's trying to do. When things do go right it makes it far more satisfying. This show or writing style might not be for you but it's certainly not a mistake they overlook when maki g the anime. It was intended to be this way.
>>139585852
>garbage's garbages
Interesting taste tbqdesu
>>139585877
Is that why the characters are logs with clothes?
>>139585877
Hey, I'm a Grimgarfag too, but the lack of world building is literall just because shitmonji has been too busy waifufagging with his Merryshit to care about world building.
>>139585307
>It's hard to understand how the characters are even friends. I mean this. Why did this group get together in this fashion? Why did the characters shown at the start split off in this fashion?
This is explained multiple times in the show. All the competent people turned their own groups and they were the ones not getting chosen by anyone so they formed a group themselves. After that they became somewhat friends through their shared struggles etc.
The show goes out of its way to say they just happened to be thrown together out of necessity, and not out of friendship.
>>139585903
Shit taste from a Yumefag I see
>>139585913
Now you're just trying to make me mad. The emotion the voice actors produced in this anime was amazing to say the least. The characters have depth to them as well. I honestly don't know what you're talking about.
>>139585944
Except >>139584734 and >>139584897 are at least more canon than what you Merryfags could ever hope your shitty shop to be.
>>139585877
It isn't a writing type, it's being lazy. You can build a world from a single characters perspective, they just didn't.
The show just went totally downhill as far as character interactions go after Manato. If this show honestly wanted to be better, it shouldn't have so staunchly stuck to simply being their struggles with dungeon shit. The only thing they explored was red haired guy being a dick, and if anything it just made him out to be a more annoying character. The only time they fought and it was any good was the first goblin fight.
>>139585973
Sure they have depth annnnonn
>>139585989
What show are you watching? Were you need t paying attention to 90 percent of the anime?
>>139585999
Yea they do. For the character not knowing anything about their past which adds to the show might I add I could name many quarks and hobbies and what makes certain characters tick and personality types and what would piss of each of the characters and where the characters like to spend their free time and many more things which is amazing considering how much actual time we spent on each character. You you literally want God to write all the anime you watch?
>>139585987
>this is what Yumefags genuinely believe in
>>139586080
>you even
>>139586080
"Were you even t paying attention" is not a rebuttal to what I said, it's you admitting you can't come up with anything against what I've said.
>>139585973
I'd just say the characters feel like actual humans. There weren't much character development to consider them as "having depth".
>>139585989
>character interactions
They didn't go either downhill or uphill. But of course you claimed Haru and Yume barely interacted when they actually interact the most among the cast so I wouldn't take your opinion on that seriously.
>>139586080
One is a hot-head. One guy likes to cook and is otherwise a log. The mc is a log. White hair is a shy log. Red is a log who wants to fuck the mc.
Mary's backstory was also incredibly predictable and cookiecutter. It was pretty much exactly Kirito's from sword art.
>>139586080
And again I'm not saying this is the best anime ever, I'm just saying it's not "shit" by a reviewers point of view. If that's your opinion that's fine but I'm just making it clear that I don't agree with what you are saying and I don't think I'm the minority.
>>139586153
I don't get this log meme. If you want to say bland, then just say it
>>139586140
>But of course you claimed Haru and Yume barely interacted
I didn't, and by downhill I mean they were just boring. The show is just painfully mediocre.
>>139586094
>Merryfag still mad their waifu isn't as emotionally close to Haru as Yume is
Stay buttmad forever Merryfags.
>>139586153
The guy that likes to cook is also shy but can be the most scary when he's angry. He also like to do detailed work which is stated. He becomes comfortable around the group making rebuttals toward his team which he wouldn't do towards the beginning. I learned all this from just six episodes. Not to mention the meny other things about all the other characters. Were you even watching the show?
>>139586241
We're still going to win the Harubowl. Enjoy your complementary Ranta
>>139586270
To be honest the changes are small and subtle enough to slip a few people'sattention
I just don't get his overall point, I never saw Grimgarfags never claimed their favorite show is the masterpiece of our time or anything. It just has certain charms and a lot but not too many people dig those.
>>139586270
Not only that but he likes to do woodwork and was probably a pilot before all this happened. I already know more about this side character than most main characters in anime.
>>139586306
Manato and Choco won the Haruhirob owl ages ago. Your point ismoot
>Yume lied collapsed on her side and was putting pressure on her neck. Blood. There is blood. Her neck was injured. It was bleeding, extremely so. Yume had difficulty breathing, her breaths becoming shallow and elaborated.
This is a lie. Please stop it. It's a joke, right? What the hell. Someone, please say this isn't real. Please. I'm begging you, say it's not real. It can't be. It's all a lie. It can't be real. Right? I mean, this is just weird.
"Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!"
>>139586373
>Manato
But you can't fuck ashes, anon
>>139586306
>We're still going to win the Harubowl
Go suck your shitmonji's waifufagging cock. Merry was a mistake.
Gagging deepthroat!
Yume's a real trooper like that.
>>139570624
I only have one episode left and the show was mostly shit. Also I don't remember enjoying shit ever being forbidden.
>>139586429
>>139586420
>Grimgar of ash and fantasy
I'd say Haru mainly fucks ashes and once in a while fantasies.
>>139585286
Shihoru has the best tiddies so that's a contender, but Yume is the best looking and would probably be the most fun to watch struggle as you rape her, based on personality. I'm gonna have to go with Yume.
>>139586367
What depth
>>139586563
>Yume
>implying you could
What if Grimgar was one of my favorite anime airing this season
>>139586603
I couldn't no, but I'm not a bandit.
>>139586615
Then you have solid taste.
>>139586603
Which Grimgar has the best core strength?
Haru and Yume with their crazy acrobatic thief/hunter maneuvers are strong contenders, Ranta doesn't seem too bad himself, and Moguzo is just really strong overall.
I'd go withBarbara-sensei
>>139586479
Why do you do that? Admit you like the show but call it shit are you trying to please the "cool" annon? From a reviewers standpoint this show isn't bad by any means. I've watched people defend Sekko Boys as if there life depended on it because they enjoyed the anime. Im not going to let this anime which I actually liked which is rare these days to be talked bad about with no arguments whatsoever.
What is wrong with Yume's breasts. >>139585286 Here she looks almost flat but she has Shihoru-tier tits in this one >>139586603
>>139586696
I'm not that guy, but shit or not shit is entirely subjective, so is like and dislike.
You can like something you think is shit just like you can dislike something you think isn't shit. I don't see any discrepancy here.
>>139586696
>Defending your favorite anime on /a/
You're fighting an uphill battle
You will never rape Yume and not fear her telling anyone else because she doesn't want to destroy the group.
;_;
>>139586603
date rape drugs
or "potion of sleep" or whatever
>>139586698
Pads.
I don't know, Haru had first hand experience and he once remarked Yume isn't actually flat. She is not too big either.
>>139586743
*you're favorite anime
You have one job. ONE.
>>139586749
>>139586751
>>139586641
Posting superior rape scenario
>>139586804
nice meme
>>139586736
The fact is you can find character development in this show. The fighting animations are smooth. The voice acting is amazing (probably the best part of the show in my opinion) the emotions the voice actors put off seem so realistic and raw. I don't think anybody's complaining about the character designs? These things on top of others are far more than a lot of other anime can claim to have.
>>139586696
Watching bad shows makes you enjoy the good ones even more.
Watched the niconico version and noticed they made some changes. They removed the scene where Ranta suddenly had his helmet on during his encounter with Datesport, cut out part where Yume interrupts Haru monologue resulting in less of Yume ass screentime and the line scene, where it is properly animated and no more green key frame storyboard style scene.
There's probably more but those are the things that I noticed in the niconico stream compared to the TV broadcast.
>>139586736
>shit or not shit is entirely subjective
That utter lack of standard.
>>139586855
>I don't think anybody's complaining about the character designs?
I really liked how realistic their gear looked. It wasn't just a plain overcoat and some leather/plate. Its easy to see where their items are stored too. Seems like most anime characters nowadays have pockets expanding interdimensions.
>>139586883
Teach me about standard and enlighten me why 99% of you're favorite shows aren't actually badly animated, terribly written and directed in a complete brain-dead manner, o animation guru-sempai.
Get over it, every anime is substandard. Whether you find it shit or not depends on your own shit taste. That's where the subjectivity comes from: because seeing impartially and objectively everything is already shit.
You and your bandit buddies will never come across Shihoru sleeping in the forest.
Why even brigand?
>>139586957
>admits that there are standards for writing, animation and directing
>goes to say that quality is a subjective thing
ayy
>>139587053
>ayy
Holy shit fuck off back to tumblr
>>139586942
You're right, the fasion was on point.
>>139587031
Usual shihoru eyes are a lot smaller, I like this one better.
>>139587053
>quality is a subjective thing
Did I say anything about that?
Finding the shit you find less shitty among objective shits is a highly opinionated activity, because it's already past the clear boundary of good and shit.
I felt the beginning of Grimgar was pretty slow in the episodes prior to Manato's death. After that, the pacing seemed alright. Story and dramawise, there was progress
I liked the characters. Even if Manato died early, I'm still nominating him as best boy. Based on his conversations with Haru, we could implicitly assume some things about his character prior to being thrown into Grimgar, like how it seemed like he struggled to make friends or how he was incompetent (his Priest-sensei kept shitting on him for sucking as a priest). We didn't get a lot of Manato, but I'd argue that his character had more depth than some of the others
I wish we had gotten more Shihoru. Despite being a survivor, she didn't get a lot of screen time. We only know her as the big tit shy girl who possibly had a small crush on the leader. However, it was nice to see her come out of her shell towards the end of the series
If this show was more action oriented and had better character development then it would be a lot better than it is now. It just seemed very forced when the leader of the group got killed off all of a sudden and everyone in the group was so depressed even though they've only known him for a short while.
>>139587239
His sensei was just the strict professor stereotype. He actually commented on how Manato was a bright one.
Manato was most likely a Hikaru-is-not-on-earth-kind of womanizer without real friends examplary student ikemen before Grimgar.
>>139587239
>Shihoru
Why was she even there?
>>139587369
To cockblock Yume when it matters and to makedirty analjoke
>>139587271
They were basically all lost and looked up to him as their leader and certain characters formed a stronger bond with him and you can tell who those characters are by the way they take his death. If you noticed some characters took he's death far worse than others while other character focused on comforting others not to meantion almost anybody is going to cry when a friend dies. Nothing seems unrealistic about that to me especially there hopes of survival without him pretty much seemed slim to none, they realized they were probably fucked.
>>139587271
I'd call it incompetence considering that they were having fucking lunch in the middle of enemy territory. They're a new team with little battle experience and common sense. Hell, 5 of the members couldn't function without the constant guidance from Manato. They're a fresh new group that made plenty of mistakes. I'd say the events leading to Manato's death was to be expected. Manato was the one keeping the team together and organized. Remember when Haru was spilling spaghetti when Manato was on his deathbed? The only way the group could function in this new world was to rely on Manato. His death would naturally cause everyone to panic. No one knows what the fuck to do without him
>>139587418
And again a lot of the depression afterwords was them thinking they weren't going to make it in this world without him. He basically was their hope.
>>139585396
Yeah, you'll be in for a massive disappointment.
Forced romance everywhere, at least try the VN, it's far better.
>>139587418
They are also amnesiac and practically the first companions in life to each other, of course it hit them harder than for example you and some random acquaintance's death.
>>139587369
>why are sorcerers good?
Fixed that for you. Now you can see how retarded you sound.
>>139587470
Are there any established romantic relationships thus far? All I know is a relationship between Merry and the paladin is never going to happen. Merry + Haru is the strongest option. But Yume + Haru is also possible? I'm not so sure about Ranta. And anyone Shihoru likes gets a death flag apparently
>>139587593
>Shihoru
>making sorcerers look anything but lame and pointless
Fixed that for you. Now you can see how retarded you sound.
>>139586367
>pilot
Probably not, Moguzo's reaction is kind of dim and he doesn't seem much older than the others.
My take on the planeand maybe Kikkawa's AUSTRALIAwas they were probably on a school trip when they were abducted, not necessarily while on plane though.
>>139587662
Her magic missiles and shadow snares were pretty helpful
>>139587690
She also had a sleep spell.
>>139570624
Oh wow you guys are actually more autistic than the fairy tail guy
>>139587600
>Merry-Kuzaku: sunken
>Merry-Haru: shitmonji's waifufagging. Most likely so far
>Yume-Haru: hormoneless affectionso far
>Ranta-Yume: one-sided crush
>Shihoru-Manato: ded
>>139587736
>hormoneless
LN Haru had a raging boner during the hugging scene. He was chill in the animu though.
>>139587461
Put yourself in their shoes. You enter this new world with no memories of who you were before. You're scared and learn you've got to fight monsters to survive. Turns out it's very hard and ur group almost gets destroyed fighting a pair of goblins. You are nearly getting by as is and can't afforded basic necessities but there is one guy in your group who seems to know what he's doing. He's the best fighter out of everyone and you think maybe with him you can somehow make it. He's your leader and everyone respects him. He gets along with everyone and brings order into this otherwise crazy world you have been thrown into. This guy heals you every time you get injured even if it's just a minor cut. You form a friendship with this guy, stronger depending on which character. Now what happens when he dies? Not only does all that go away but now you feel a sense of impending doom. How are you possibly going to make it in this world without this guy? That realization hitting you in the face on top of one of your friends dying. Why wouldn't these characters cry?
![[HorribleSubs] Boku dake ga Inai Machi - 05 [720p].mkv_snapshot_15.26_[2016.02.05_17.41.06].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/h71hXZR.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Boku dake ga Inai Machi - 05 [720p].mkv_snapshot_15.26_[2016.02.05_17.41.06].jpg")
>>139587669
>>139587761
>LN Haru had a raging boner during the hugging scene
What?
>>139587775
Realize most people cry when they lose their job or break up with someone than compare it to this and see if it seems "unrealistic"
Show us where your priorities lie.
http://www.strawpoll.me/7207960
>>139587777
>>139587761
I think they kind of implied it when Haru realized he was inbetween Yume's Yumes and he gasped or made a small remark.
>>139584022
>Manato's character fed birds crumbs and then died. We learned nothing about him.
That's kinda the point of his death. He made himself out to be this faultless leader and everyone just accepted it and even depended on him to fill that role, only to have that robbed from them in an instant, along with any naive illusions they had of their own competence as a party. Which is expanded upon a lot in the second half of the show, as Haru is constantly brooding over how Manato only left him with an idealized image of a leader to chase after.
Sounds like you're just dead set on not appreciating the show no matter what, though, so you really should just drop it.
>>139587844
I straight-up did not mean to post that image. Sorry, mod-chan.
>>139587844
Apparently, Ranta becomes best boy because of what he did for Merry in vol 8
>>139587777
> But it felt good. Her body was soft and warm…
>No. No, no, no. He couldn’t let his mind wander there. It would get awkward. Maybe even more than awkward. And naturally, Yume wasn’t thinking anything like that. Of course Haruhiro wasn’t either. They were teammates. Friends. Just friends.
>“Haru.”
>“Y-y-yes?” Hearing her say his name was so unexpected and flustered him so much, he only barely squeaked out his reply. He kicked himself for getting so panicked.
>“Yume…” she continued.
>“Yes?”
>“Yume will try her best,” she said, hugging Haruhiro even more tightly.
>And though it Haruhiro admitted that it felt good, at the same time he wished she wouldn’t do that. Wait. Where was she going to “try her best”?
[...]
>He drew her in closer, hugging her tight and with all his strength, until a sigh escaped her lips. He wanted to tell her to quit it, since he was hugging her for the sole purpose of encouragement, and yet at the same time, he felt a sort of excitement starting to come over him, threatening to overwhelm him, to make him explode.
>Don’t give in! Don’t lose! He thought to himself. What did it mean to lose anyway? What did it mean to win? He had no idea. He just had a feeling that if he lost here, it would be bad. Really bad.
I cut out the middle part because the post exceeded the limit, but yeah. Not literally a boner but his sexual desire was running wild.
>>139587900
Anything similar with Merry or Shihoru?
>>139588004
Nope.
He's really awkward with Mary. He thinks she's just too beautiful, and seems to somehow recognize this as a dangerous flag? He's wary around her.
>>139587897
>Ranta
>pretends to be narcissistic to make up for his insecurities
>ends up just being an obnoxious asshole
>best boy
The readers can appreciate his act, but his character is going to be bottom of the barrel until he accepts himself or grows up.
>>139588047
And with Shihoru he only thinks about Manato when he thinks about her. He doesn't really see her. I guess it makes sense because she's so withdrawn. We only occasionally here her say put downs about Ranta.
>>139588004
No. He went jelly after witnessing Kuzaku and Merry's private moment, he also once denied possible romantic feelings because muh leadership ethics.
Otherwise he kind of wants to fuck Merry. And as far as I know it's mostly pure non sexual affection between Yume and Haru though he does occasionally lost a few heartbeat because of the yome.
Shihoru became more of a supportive bro in the last two volumes.
>>139587883
>That's kinda the point of his death. He made himself out to be this faultless leader and everyone just accepted it and even depended on him to fill that role, only to have that robbed from them in an instant, along with any naive illusions they had of their own competence as a party. Which is expanded upon a lot in the second half of the show, as Haru is constantly brooding over how Manato only left him with an idealized image of a leader to chase after.
That has nothing to do with forced drama with no substance. This show is mediocre and you're an idiot, calm down.
>>139588198
I agree. Merry was forced drama the main course, Manato's death was just the beginning.
>>139588198
Why do you do what you do annon? Just admit you liked it.
>>139587883
You know how people complain when a character has absolutely no development and then they get an entire episode where we find out their backstory, their ambitions, their love interest and then in the next episode or at the end of that episode the character dies?
Yeah, that happened except it was even worse.
>>139588004
No, but Yume got hugged hard. Again.
Hugging Yume is Haru's method of regaining sanity. Gotta have something to balance out his Manato andMoguzoghosts
>>139588310
That didn't happen. Manato's real backstory scene was just a conversation with Haru. It didn't even take that long and we only got vague information about his character
Are we really complaining about the character development at episode three? Do you guys even read the things you post?
>>139588235
>friends dying in a world where you die when you are killed
>keeping to yourself as a result, thinking that you were responsible for their deaths
>forced drama
![[HorribleSubs] Boku dake ga Inai Machi - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_13.50_[2016.03.24_22.20.54].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PmYdjAb.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Boku dake ga Inai Machi - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_13.50_[2016.03.24_22.20.54].jpg")
>>139588451
This is /a/. We also believe 29 year olds can have romantic relationships with 11 year olds
>>139588410
You misunderstand. I'm saying that the author followed the trope (which is bad writing) poorly.
The trope is what I said (i.e making a backstory, focussing on a character arbitrarily and then killing him/her off). In this case the author focused on the character by including some bland and uninteresting shit and then killed him off.
>>139588485
That wasn't even what was wrong.
Mind you, it was even stated that everyone alive for long enough in that shithole of a borderland has dead friends. They never forget that, cherish those around them even more and move on.
Not the case for Merrodramary. She has to be a jerk in response to everyone's goodwills because muh friends are dead I have trauma, and Haru's party wasn't even the first party suffered from her shitty attitude.
>keeping to yourself
More like being incooperative and shitting on people for both being nice (everyone) and being a shit (Ranta) to her.
At least she got better. Except when she's not, because fucking Momonji.
I'm going through the shit in this thread. You're all pretty fucking deluded.
>treat it as a slice of life
I mean, you can critique Erased for failing at being a mystery. It's pretty fucking dumb to say "ignore it and focus on x" when it's obviously lacking in what it's trying to present itself as. It'd be pretty bad deflection to say "Erased is not a mystery" and the same goes for grimgar.
Secondly, the fact you have to wait until about the last third of the anime for any pay-off is legitimately annoying. Phantom world fans aren't free from this criticism so neither are you.
Overall this series is a solid 5.5/10
>>139588561
What's there to misunderstand? You're just talking out of your ass.
Of course any narrative will give extra attention to characters who are about to die. If they didn't, people would just be asking "wait, who was that again?" when the character dies. Despite that, they didn't overdo it like you suggest. They didn't tell us his backstory, his motivation and life goals or his love interest. Upon his death, we feel we barely got to know him, which is exactly what the characters express when they look back at it.
It's like you think you're only allowed to kill off characters if we've slowly been introduced to them over the course of the story and can earnestly mourn their passing, which in itself is cheap and overdone.
>>139588561
I don't think using a trope is inherently a bad thing. You can find all sorts of tropes in anime nowadays. Just because there's a commonly used trope, I wouldn't penalize that anime for using it. Unless of course it's Tropes: the Anime
As for the particular trope you pointed out, perhaps it's because I've seen so many instances of it that I've been numbed, but I don't think the one in Grimgar is something that completely ruins the anime. The "backstory before death" trope is something you see frequently, but it's how you handle the trope that decides the quality and impact of the scene. Sure we got backstory of Manato before his death, but the way it was set up (the minimal explanation of Manato's backstory and relationships prior to his death) didn't make me raise flags for him when he was talking about his past life with Haru. Manato's background is so vague and shrouded in mystery, that I couldn't expect his death in the next episode. I was kind of expecting his backstory to build up more and more as the series progressed, but that obviously wasn't the case. There's no way we could accurately assume that Manato was going to instantly die in the next episode just because we got a few pieces of his character. Sure the trope was used, but you'd only realize it after the fact
The tropes that I don't like are the ones were it's blatantly obvious that it's a trope. Like where a character gets obscene amounts of attention and backstory and we suddenly know his entire past and motivations, only for him to die in the next episode. It's those kinds of tropes that we should look out for and criticize
>>139588844
That was said for the annons that couldn't wrap their head around this type of writing style. Basically to help them cope with the fact that they won't understand what the characters don't understand. It's was also stated the the payoff is greater in the end for viewers who enjoy this style of show which is what makes it worth it in the first place. It was also said this style of writing isn't for everyone and you'd probably fall into this category. Try Attack on Titan.
>>139588987
>try attack on titan
Are you really the same guy that's been replying to everyone with the same schtick? You're really trying hard to make it seem like this is a deep and well-written anime aren't you?
