So how are you guys liking episode 13? I really like the flashback they put in to Beatrix's and Iris's past with Jurgen. It adds a lot to the anime and really serves to contextualize their relationship and ideals. Getting to see a young Ursula hang out with Alfred was also great and really lets you understand all she lost and why she thinks the way she does.I'm thinking this should be our last day guys. We need to move on. We don't want to become a depressed mess like Beatrix, unwilling and unable to let go, do we? We'll have more discussion, more funposting, and more waifuing when Degica finally decides to release ML on steam.
>>139549336
Posting best girls.
>>139549433
Those digits confirm!
Iris is love, Iris is life
>>139549140
If it helps, Theo wasn't ok after that, at least not in the long term. He eventually goes crazy.
Also Lise was the best girl.
>literally lost my first post because I got cucked by captcha
Temporary thing moot said! It would be gone soon moot said!
>>139549336
Best girls
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpp208_pink-floyd-the-final-cut-film-complete-1983_music
Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is THE soundtrack, comrades.
Also, commissar Gretel is alive and rocking to the latest Puhdy`s album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw
and to some rock classics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6ZtGpSH4g
>>139549513
This
Also thelewdest
>>139549336
>I'm thinking this should be our last day guys. We need to move on. We don't want to become a depressed mess like Beatrix, unwilling and unable to let go, do we? We'll have more discussion, more funposting, and more waifuing when Degica finally decides to release ML on steam.
No one wants this to end anon. For some reason we keep showing up...
>>139549611
Did Marky Mark beat her up?
this was adapted from a LN or a VN? are there different routes/endings? Would you recommend them?
>>139549433
Got ya!
>>139549448
Yeah, pretty much everything Beatrix tells Theo is prophetic, especially if he becomes the Master.
>>139549661
He won't rest till all the Viet shits are all extinct
>>139549676
Original source is LN
Then the 1st VN adapted half the material
Then the anime came out "adapting" all the LNs into 12 episodes
The 2nd VN is scheduled for winter this year and is set to include routes.
Of course I'd recommend the LN/VN over the anime any day.
>>139549704
Best route when.
>>139549704
Some of these faces man.
>>139549676
There are three routes planned for Martyrs, and we've speculated endlessly on them. The general consensus though is that we'll get a Beatrix/Lise and Katia route apart from the canon one we saw in the anime.
Lise route is necessary to flesh out the stasi along with Beatrix's goals (especially because there won't be any Beato POV scenes like the LN) and Katia route will exist to round out everything.
>>139549832
Lise always made the best expressions.
>>139549661
>>139549794
Hah, I feel so bad for laughing at this reference.
>>139549832
>give me cocks
>>139549882
That may be true but Beato-san is sure smugger!
>>139549704
Too bad they didn't see it. Germany was doomed, and it was necessary to sacrifice it to save Europe. She was right and is probably smug as fuck in Hell.
>>139550042
So, how the heck did Gretel live?
Bullets proved to be lethal in this series.
Iris is considered to be the best TSF's pilot in Schwarzesmarken.
>>139549972
Only one cock was ever on her mind.
>>139550042
She trained Lise well.
>>139550088
Iris is the best, we knew that since Day 1
>>139550075
The Party willed her survival.
>>139550075
she is ugly
So she survived
even worse she became a boy|
they only kill the beauties
>>139550075
Will of the Party.
Also bodyarmor.
>>139550157
Gulag for you.
>>139550046
>when you tell her your plan to save Germany and it's so good she starts drooling.
>>139550110
Was that one cock yours anon? Hopefully she is your loving waifu correct?
>>139549336
Well we certainly have to move on.
It's haram otherwise.
>>139550046
Hiroki himself said that Beatrix wasn't wrong and was pretty reasonable given the shit sandwich they were handed.
He also implied that Katia isn't right too by stating her idealism is juvenile and runs up against reality.
I wanted to see more of her
>>139550305
West is Best
>>139550075
Shot placement, and whether or not the bullet hit a major artery. Iris would have lived most likely in a shot like that, but the liver is sensitive. A small weak pistol like the one she was shot by, most likely would have not killed her. But again, too many variables. Gretel got hit by a higher energy round, so you'd think it would exit, but as seen by here
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/14051045_The_destabilizing_effect_of_body_armour_on_military_rifle_bullets
her grade of armor might cause the all read yawing type round from the ak to do more damage. But, then again, depending on other factors such as this was just bad writing period, and obvious the studio and writer fucking hated Iris.
>>139550281
>>139550305
Can she wipe her own ass?
>>139550409
She killed so many cocks, too.
>>139550046
Will VN Beatrix make these faces?God VN Beatrix is cute. Anime doesn't know how to draw her eyes at all.
>>139550448
Does it matter? She has the finest ass on the near side of the Urals anyway.
>>139550525
http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/character10.html
Too bad she only makes two faces in this character interaction.
>>139550566
>>139550305
>>139550324
Not the biggest, but it something about that, cute, tight, perky ass, that just makes you want to bury something in it.
>>139550605
It's in character though. Beatrix wears a mask and obscures her true motives and feelings. Those smiles are almost always fake. The few times she drop her act reveals someone who is extremely angry, bitter, guilt-ridden, and depressed. It's very similar to Irisdina, really, before she started getting closer to Theodor.
What would they adapt next into an anime?
Eurofront?
TDA?
>>139550466I want to save her
>>139550781
>The few times she drop her act reveals someone who is extremely angry, bitter, guilt-ridden, and depressed.
Got any examples off hand from the LNs?
>>139549336
I liked the part where everything turned out okay in the end.
Neva forgot...
>>139550913
There's her interaction with Schmidt where he's taken a back at the look of absolute rage she give him when he reveals the extent of his selfishness. There's also Walther fucking her way up by telling her she's not evil at heart, that Jurgen would've wanted her to be happy, and that it's not too late for her to be a good person (anime cuts this out, replacing it with one line from Walther asking her why she's in the stasi). In fact, this was the turning point where she went from somewhat reasonable and constrained to full on evil (using civvies as human shields, shooting up the mob at the wall)
>>139550913
>>139551229
As an aside, there's some translated portions from Lise's requiem a month ago where she talks about her guilt to Lise and says that the Werewolves are dirty, she herself is filthy, and that there was no glory at all in what she did and no happy ending for her before asking Lise if she really wanted to join the Werewolves.
>>139550075
maybe they were smart enough to give her medical aid instead of going to see the sunrise
>>139551203
Lost too many cuties this season.
>>139550791
>my little executioner cant be this cute
>>139551414
>>139551203
Was getting killed part of your plan?
There is no God.
not bad nyaaaa girl
>>139551518
Welcome to the club.
Time to put on the uniform in remembrance
>>139550088
>>139550135
That's the best joke I've heard all year.
Truth: Visual Novel, Light Novel and Anime:
Iris doesn't have great TSF battle scenes
Iris doesn't have great TSF action scenes.
No wonder people hate irisfags
>>139551786
she saved theodore us 2 times in the anime.
>>139551229
Is it wrong that I want to pet andhugher?
>>139551761
post pics!
Which are your favourite units in this game?Lise>Sylwia>Theo>Anette>Katia>PhamJust like the best girl order if you exclude Theo.
>>139551897
with imaginary scenes created with their delusions.
>>139552261
What game.
>>139552261
Katia>Lise>everyone else
>>139552261
>Lise on top
Yes
>Pham on bottom
No
>>139551908
Last person to do that got shot by his sister.
>>139551908
Do you want to hold her hand and help her get better?
How are you going to do that?
>>139550789
I don't think TDA happens before original trilogy which is never. How much Eurofront material is there? I only know one VN short and DLA which apparently is a collection of short stories. It could be a good thing if they were allowed to go original but it would require more effort from the anime team.
>>139552329
http://kiminozo-radio.jp/kaiki/
>>139552475
GOTT IM HIMMEL. DAT DEMONESS
>>139549704
It's like listening to Yuuko all over again!
>>139551941
Even though I sometimes fantasize about it I'm not a little girl. Sorry to disappoint you
>>139550046
>>139550289
For true success, they'd need a compromise. You'd need to evacuate civilians and allow them to fall under bdr control when they leave, but you'd still need the Stasi doing Stasi stuff to keep soldiers from deserting.
>>139552580
Beatrix and Iris are both like Yuuko in many ways. Iris has the cold detachment and willingness to sacrifice precious ones while Beatrix has Yuuko's beliefs, mannerisms, intelligence (relative to the cast), (and in my opinion) beauty.
>>139551941
>>139552643
>>139552743
Have we ever got the non "sample" picture?
>>139552743
tomboy
>>139552475
they have in project a full length vn with Euro Front characters. maybe they are going to do the same shit they already have done with TE and SM
>>139552847
There's a few, but they're either tiny or have terrible quality.
>>139553007
>they have in project a full length vn with Euro Front characters.
really?i thought TDA was the one getting a full length VN so they can conclude it?
>>139553156
Just fuck my shit up.
>>139553237
I think they both are.
>>139553156
>>139553292
Also where the fuck do you get one of these?
I have no idea and no I am not a newfag I just never did it before.
>>139553156
How would you even scan those things
I have the Iris tapestry but I'd have no idea how to scan it
>>139552440
Is it wrong that I wanted someone to kind of sympathize with her before she died, you know, just a little bit of comfort at the end instead of having someone spit on her as she lay dying? I think that's why I was so unhappy with the end of her arc.
>>139553448
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A5-%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A5%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A1%E3%83%AB%E3%83%84%E3%82%A7%E3%82%B9%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B1%E3%83%B3-%E3%83%99%E3%82%A2%E3%83%88%E3%83%AA%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9%E3%83%BB%E3%83%96%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A1-%E6%8A%B1%E3%81%8D%E6%9E%95%E3%82%AB%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC/dp/B01B3S1T8Y
>>139550272
Of course. Shes a very devoted partner.
>>139551908
It just means you're a normal red blooded male. Its always a shame to let a semen demon go to waste.
>>139549336
i'm going to miss the ballad of the bountiful ballcrusher
>>139552743
I was more referring to both having terrible plans that almost no one manages to notice the gaping hole in, plus the willingness of both to sacrifice large numbers of people rather than put in the minimal effort to come up with a semi-coherent stragety.
I guess the biggest difference is that Beatrix is a lot more up front about it.
>>139553646
Thank you anon.
It was literally just Amazon.jp eh?
Anyway I think everyone was unhappy with the ending and how each character was portrayed.
>>139553646
>out of stock
Whelp off to ebay for me.
>>139553906
>>139553998
What the fuck is this shit?
Do they really want this much?
>>139554043
I think that the Beato Daki is limited edition or something like that.
>>139554043
It was an exclusive item you could only get at comiket (I think) or some other special event.
So now the only other way you get it is through second hand vendors and the only ones left are the expensive ones since it came out quite some time ago
>>139550566
>>139550661
did west german uniforms really look like track suits?
also when am I going to get my kikestarter shit? I don't even remember what I'm supposed to get.
>>139554190
>>139554131
Man that is bullshit. I always hate how the Japanese do these limit run, special edition bullshit instead of just making some more.
>>139553646
Yeah, I wanted Theodor to find out about Iris's and Beatrix's past so he could've said something else to her. Give her something happy or compassionate to leave the world to like Lise. It would've added resolution to her end, a fitting send-off and shown that someone will remember her suffering.
>>139552505
WTF did I just play?
>>139554190
You could also get it through Kickstarter (but who would).
>>139554272
That's hardly something exclusive to japan.
>>139554243
The Bundeswehr wasn't called the "Hairforce" for nothing, back in the 70s, they had tracksuits too, but not as form fitting.
>>139554410
Yea, but if you only wanted the daki you have to at least pay $280USD
which is more expensive than any second hand beato daki that has ever gone on sale.
>>139554410
It was a pretty expensive tier though, and I think it had limited slots as well.
>>139554588
You'd be getting a lot of other shit with it as well though.
>>139554446
No but it seems that partially terrible about it. I always hated that if you don't preorder or buy some merchandise the day it comes out then you are shit out of luck most of the time.
>>139554353
They didn't even go into Beato-san and Jurgen dating which was cancerous.
>>139554588
> buying second hand daki of your waifu from japan
that does not sound like a wise choice
>>139554824
>>139554874
>>139554923
Imperial Army > Imperial Guard
>>139554719
At the $400 tier yes
Getting more stuff isn't always good, it's only good if it's more stuff you actually want if not it's just bloating the price for what you want.
Hence why there's an add-on system.
But assuming you only want the Daki it's terrible.
Anyways at the $280 minimum price the only added stuff you get is ML Extra/Unl/Alt and the soundtrack.
>>139554957
Most on the second-hand market are bought for the purpose of re-selling, very rare will you actually see one actually used.
>>139554817
I would've used one of the after-credit scenes as a flashback (like episode 11's). Maybe have Beatrix embracing and kissing Jurgen as he returns from the front while Iris looks on with dead, yandere eyes. Or have Beatrix listen to part of Jurgen's last message to her.
>>139555066
I would've used 24 goddamn episodes. But as it is the anime is basically just advertising.
>>139555066
There was a lot of potential but the director was a fuckstick.
Love is over.
>>139555294
That would have been nice, but I am not sure that the SoL moments would have been well adapted.
>>139555333
Nice try, half-Satan
>>139554874
>>139554923
>>139554986
>>139555050
>>139555106
>>139555220
Where's the faggot literally emptying their Type-00 folder?
>>139555416
Type-00 are the coolest.
Raptor-kun a piece of dishonorable and cowardly backstabbing piece of shit
>>139554043
Why be surprised when your currency is funny money?
>>139555416
Alfred Walken, the Lord speaketh to ye. He says that you must stop lusting after teenage jap nobles, since you have such a delicious brown wife.
Is a red Takemikazuchi 3 times faster?
>>139555294
Speaking of which, since the anime is terrible are there going to be any serious consequences for this? I just want the LN series to keep going and for us to get the second half of the visual novel.
Also an Extra series where everyone gets to get along.
>>139555334
This fucked me up for weeks. I didn't know I was such a pussy for suffering blonde girls.
>>139555403
Not with the way the characters were handled, no. He deliberately changed things around for his own bias. It could have but I guess we'll never know.
>>139555497
In one year thanks to oil prices:
>our currency dropped 23-30% and every since then has gone up by one third.
>our entire economy shit the bed.
>we elected a meme leader who has literally done nothing since then.
Oh well at least I have Beato-san!
>>139555333
>Hold on. Wait up. The Stasi are a real thing?
This is the man they chose to direct the series.
>>139555653
She's so beautiful and feminine;_;
Is there a single SM that isn't lovable?
>>139555708
Shame the anime version didn't really capture any of that.
>>139555585
The LN ended, and SM Extra should be Ostalgie the VN, since setting it anywhere else would defeat the purpose of having Ossi protagonists.
>>139555763
Schmidt/Andropov I think.
>>139555763
Farka the Second.
>>139555653
>beatofag is canadian.
I'm coming to your house and hiding under your bed.
>>139555585
Actual if anything it will still help. It may have been a shit adaptation but now more people know about SM.
>>139555763
No
>>139555799
The only time it captured it was her death. She looked so frail after Theo stabbed her.
Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CC7i6brEI
>>139552505
This lobby BGM is super comfy, and the game is alright.
>>139555916
I /NVA/ here!
>Save in the name of true love
Ha
Ha
What was saved? Where is the love? EVERYONE IS DEAD, GONE, THERE ARE ONLY CORPSES ON YOUR PATH, THEODORE!
>>139555891
>when you killing rebel scum but you just remembered you left the oven on at home
>>139555847
W-why do you want to come to Canada?
>>139555891
Yeah, I know. I involuntarily felt my protective instincts kick in hard seeing her struggling to breathand I'm not even a Beatrixfag, I like Katia.
>>139556007
mah comrade
Why are we getting spammed with TSF pictures?
>>139556029
>feeling those protective instincts kick in and yet being helpless to do anything about it.
Hurts don't it?
>>139556028
hush now just get the guest room ready
PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
>>139556115
The IRGC has nothing to do, as usual.
>>139556115
>Why are we getting spammed with Shit TSF pictures?
>>139556163
>hush now just get the guest room ready
>Beatofag and Lisefag sleep over
How will this go?
>>139555334
Does Onii-chan even have the right to do this after the way he treated her and her sacrifice?
>>139550075
The will of the party protected her
>>139556278
Hopefully bloodbbath!
>>139555566
No, but all the Takemikazuchis cost three times more than a normal Third-generation TSF.
>>139556163
I wanted to stroke her hair and hold her hand even though I knew she was evil. That Theo didn't give her any comfort or empathy made things even worse.
>>139556258
Thats a german unit though.
>>139556278I made that edit
>>139556258
>Takemikazuki
>Shit
Pick one
>>139556286
No, we already knew Theo a shit, only Hitler knows what Lise saw in him.
>>139556392
I`d prefer shit to Takemikazuki. It`s inexpensive and gets the job done.
>>139555520
You think I ENJOY dealing with this shit?
>>139556364
It's British as Queen VictoriaA half-German who married a German and whose father was a German
>>139556362
Theo = shitbird
>>139556392
This is like the Sherman vs Tiger debate. The Tiger was stronger in a fight, but it also loses hands down.
If you think single hero units are the way to win a war, go back to Gundam Wing.
>>139556115
>>139556197
It's probably Spicposter's latest attempts to fuck with us.
>>139556511
He posts with Schwarzemarken in the name field now, so it's not him.
>>139556404
Maybe she saw his dick when they were kids.
>>139556450But Blackadder, what are you doing here? Did you volunteer for Her Majesties Royal Tactical Surface Fighter Force?
>>139556423
Exactly. It'll be hilarious:
>2006
>Type-00 hits the same upgrade brick wall as the Type-94
>F-15 variant surpassing the Type-00 is announced
>>139556286
No, but that's never stopped him before.
>>139556608It was all part of a cunning plan
>>139556404
>>139556583
She no doubt projected an idealized version of him during their time apart.
>>139556627
Type-00 doesn't have a upgrade wall, it's purely powered by YAMATO DAMASHI which gets stronger by the year.
What happened to all the Irisfags?
>>139556695
YAMATO DAMASHI consumes logic and reason, though, so it will become progressively easier to outmaneuver.
>>139556778
I was just pretending to be an Irisfag.
t. Katia/Beatrix/Lise/Phamfag
Were gonna hit the image limit if this shit keeps up.
>>139556778
Licking Iris' armpits!
Licking Iris' navel!
Licking Iris' side boobs!
Licking Iris' thighs!
>>139556627
It exists too, there's the Silent Eagle nobody seems to be interested in buying. It's probably the second best fighter in existence.
>>139556813
SO are there any points in favor of the Type-00, o just image spam?
>>139556678
Funny that Iris and Beatrix probably did the same shit to Jurgen as did Theo to Iris too.
>>139556856
Why are side boobs the miracle of the universe?
>>139556833
>Phamfags
They're all gone anon. Just us Lisefags and Beatofags.
>>139556892
Be honest, you would just ignore them.
>>139556892
It's image spam.
>>139556778
ded
>>139556892
It's honestly the most advanced TSF, but it also costs too much, also is the best combination for insane melee eishi like Takeru.
That's pretty much it, richfag equipment.
Why all the cute ones have to die... Why?
>>139557060
Not all.
>>139557060
Why not?
>>139556863
Is that the production Active? Becuase that thing seemed like a Rape Machine.
>>139557060
Katia is not dead
>>139556608
I'd watch that
>>139557060
Because it wouldn't be Muv-Luv otherwise. It's even worse because some of them like Pham and especially Beatrix never got any closure like most of the girls from the main trilogy.
>>139557060
>forgetting Yuimoto
>>139557157
I have bad news for you anon...
>>139557215
No you do not
Don't stick you head cannon in this
>>139556992
Well, no one has explained how a small number of exceptional units is superior to an equal cost of good units with much higher total throw weight.
>>139557122
She's so beautiful
>>139557060
Gretel didn't die
>>139556950
Well in Jurgens case he apparently actually was Big Boss and Jesus at the same time, so their idealized version probably wouldn't have been that far off.
>>139557152
not really, since there are no actual orders for it. They just created a demonstrator and have everything they need to make it if somebody wants it. It seems like something that is useful to have as an option if we ever get into a real war again, since 200 F-22s is not going to be able to take any sort of attrition.
>>139557172
Pham seemed pretty well adjusted.
>>139557157
I like katia but the fact that she suffered the least out of the entire main cast and got her good end feels, weird.
>>139556673Cunning enough for a doctorate in cunning from the University of Cambridge?
>>139557170
Baldricks stench will be the bioweapon that will win the War against the BETA.
>>139557373
Fair point. The trend of ordering a weapon and then buying like a quarter of the intended total needs to stop; that's called shooting yourself in the foot on R&D costs.
I'm fairly sure the SE exists in ML, though. Need to check.
>>139557403
>she suffered the least
Let’s dispel once and for all with this fiction that Katia did not suffer the most
>>139557268
The Type-00 is the single best TSF developed. It's too expensive to win a war on it's own but it's still the best mase TSF and capable of a lot on it's own and much more with support, but the support will always be lesser TSFs.
>>139557319
What happened to her hair in the last ep?
>>139557526
>you can see the point where her heart breaks
>>139557526
True, the ML universe knows to hit the girls where it hurts the most
>>139557268
Because you're a raptorfag that just ignores everything.
>>139557572
It burned.
>>139557450I'm sure it was better than my plan to get out of here by pretending to be mad. I mean, who would have noticed another madman round here?
>>139557572
She used it for improvized bandages, it's how she survived
So how come ML Raptors are so cheap when the IRL F22 is a overpriced piece of shit with more issues than a woman on her period?
>>139557572
Burned/had to be cut down for the operation