Shaft over the years
>Bakemonogatari
Quality
>Nisemonogatari
Meh quality
>Neko:Kuro
Slight quality
>Mono:SS
"Hanging in there" quality
>Hanamonogatari
"Just fill it with words and done" quality
>Tsukimonogatari
"Back on track" quality
>Owarimonogatari
"What is quality? We just want money." quality
>Koyomimonogatari
QUALITY
Who did they fire for this to happen?
>Bakemonogatari
Quality
>Nisemonogatari
Meh quality
>Neko:Kuro
Slight quality
>Mono:SS
"Hanging in there" quality
>Hanamonogatari
"Just fill it with words and done" quality
>Tsukimonogatari
"What is quality? We just want money." quality
>Owarimonogatari
"Back on track" quality
>Koyomimonogatari
QUALITY
FTFY
>>139547350
>he doesn't think Owari is a masterpiece
It's by far the best season so far, after Nise and Neko Monogatari came back stronger than ever before and you faggots know it.
>>139548096
Owarimonogatari had shit animation in the last episode
Only Kizu and the sakuga episodes in Bake had great quality.
>>139547350
>>Koyomimonogatari
>QUALITY
It's a fucking twelve minute short released VIA phone app, you autist. What did you expect? Also Mono SS and Hana were God tier.
>>139547350
>Implying Monogatari was good ever.
are we discussing live airing quality or BD quality? Shaft tends to fix their glaring issues in BDs and also change things that don't need changes, sometimes for the worse
>>139548497
>he cares more about the animation quality than the actual story and characters
Maybe you should watch something more suited to your tastes, like One Punch Man
>>139547350
The worst thing about it is the loli fanservice going down the drain after Nisemono.
>>139547350
Why do you care about animation in Monogatari?
>>139548590
And Oishi will be free just in time for Orokamonogatari.
>>139550515
Because Shaft is the best studio out there
>>139549895
Fuck off LRD.
>>139550632
T-the movie is in?!
>>139548590
Yeah that's what i hate about the monogatari series.
The sakuga are beautiful but the rest is "okay"
Hana was so boring.
>>139547350
If your question is why bake is so different from rest of monogataru, that's because ooshii agreed to do kizu then refused to come out of his room for seven years.
>>139550795
>I have the attention span of a child
>>139550795
It was comfy kanbaru SoL.
>>139549569
As an animation fan, I indeed like animation. It's not like a monogataripleb would understand anyway.
>>139550647
Why? Because pedos are bad people!
>>139547350
>not liking Hanamonogatari's visuals.
You should really reconsider your view, anon.
>>139551018
Anime is the art of limited animation. Maybe Pixar is more your cup of tea.
>>139547350
Shafts going to go to shit when Monogatari finally finishes. They're only holding on to two good sellers Madoka and Monogatari.. I kind of feel bad for them.
>>139550795
Way better than Tsuki, at least.
>>139551018
I'm sorry to hear your tastes ride on something as shallow as animation. Have fun with your elitist circlejerking of Doremi and Animation Expo on twitter and your 3x3 threads.
>>139551194
They can probably get Zaregoto or something when Monogatari is done
>Bakemonogatari
>Quality
How can there be nostalgiafaggotry for a show that is not even that old?
Frames with text instead of actual animation will always be a copout, SHAFTfags,
>>139551287
I don't know, maybe, however I'm thinking that they may have to go do an original anime project. They did come out with some pretty great shows in the past but it kind of disappoints me to see them only working with two projects.
>>139551433
Nisekoi, Koufuku, 3gatsu, Fate.
>>139551433
They're doing an original project right now actually, Prism Nana
They have 3gatsu and Fate coming up too. I'm just glad that they're getting big projects that aren't Monogatari or Madoka.
In addition to my last response, Shaft has so many great animators there so it kills me to see them not expanding their talents. Shit, the Kizu films might be the greatest things in terms of quality to come out of shaft.
>>139551505
Aside from fate/ series no, Puella and Monogatari are again "Best sellers" GOOGLE /a/utist GOOGLE!
>>139551583
Oh, they are, I'm going to have to check that out ASAP, Great talking to you mate.
>Bakemonogatari
Directed by Tatsuya Oishi
>Everything else
Spearheaded by talentless hacks
>>139550632
>it will never be shown in Canada
Just kill me
>>139550574
I don't think he'll take over
Why are monogatari threads so fucking trash?
It doesn't even appeal to normalfags, so what gives?
>>139551702
So the egregious use of title cards that the series took forever to shed (or atleast deal with more sensibly) was Oishi's fault? Pretty much all the meaningful/interesting internal monologue in Bakemono was still cut out even with them there, all the title cards effectively did was mark out what scenes Shaft didn't bother animating + give those "Monogatari is deep" guys something else to latch onto.
>>139547350
>implying
Nigger, off-model inconsistencies are SHAFT's fucking calling card, they never cared that much about animation in Monogatari outside of short sakuga sequences, and if you did then I'm not sure how you made it this far.
>>139551334
What this anon said. Have you guys forgotten how bad Bake looked in TV release?
>>139550574
I hope he doesn't do anymore Monogatari.
>>139552251
>>139552288
This. Oishi should get better projects.
>>139552335
I don't mean it to dismiss the show as bad though. Like, he's one of the most creative dudes at the studio so I think it'd be best for him to move on to less niche stuff. At this point the only people who watch Monogatari are Monogatari fans who'll like the show pretty much no matter what. Let him use his talent on something new and fresh.
>>139551583
What's the deal with Prism Nana? Apparently was supposed to come out last year, right?
>>139553262
I guess it's being released slowly, episode 2 was screened recently but it's all private.
>>139553428
Do we know who the seven directors are yet? I'm probably getting my hopes up too high, but I'd love a mahou shoujo Space Dandy kinda project.
>>139553544
1: Yukihiro Miyamoto
2: Seiya Numata
>>139551105
>liking insipid visuals
I'm sorry but the only time the slide backgrounds looked good was in Bake, Nise and Neko Black. The rest is just derivative as fuck.
>>139552092
Nothing in the series compares to the use of slideshows at the beginning of each episode in Bake. I'm sorry but that is just a fact.
>>139554484
Derivative of what?
>>139554645
Derivative of the ones used in Bake, Nise and Neko Black obviously.
>>139554808
Why are Nise and Neko not derivative of Bake? Alternatively: all sequels are inherently derived from their past iterations.
>>139554964
Shut the fuck up nerd shitfag.
owari 2 when?!
>>139554964
Because Nise and Neko Black at least looked like they had some budget.
>>139555128
Sorry, I don't take orders from bullies.
>>139555215
I'm not sure how budget has anything to do with being derivative. Unless that's a new point altogether?
>>139547350
We just glossing over Kizu?
Tsuki was made more than just bearable only by having a good soundtrack.
>>139555272
The shift in style happened in Nise and Neko. Everything after that has looked like a cheap knock-off in comparison.
>>139556257
>implying
You roe tinted faggots suck a mean dick. Bake set the tone and had style going for it, but some Araragi fightan scenes aside it wasn't nowhere near the best animated of the bunch. Nise, Neko and SS all had better character animation. Get fucked.
Owari and app shorts had the excuse of Kizu overlap.
Will Monogatari's up and down quality stop it from being considered a masterpiece in the future, do you think?
>>139558491
I think it won't be called a masterpiece for other reasons.
>>139558491
Bake is a masterpiece.
How is Bake better than SS?
Kaiki arc and alternative future arc are the best thing in this series
>>139559157
Only Tsubasa Tiger was good.
>>139559157
I was apathetic to Bake buy SS was downright painful to watch.
>>139559378
>>139559442
>>139547350
God how i wish to place my throbbing member into Shinobu's sugary, sharp mouth.
>>139559157
Direction, animation, and coloring dropped in quality, and at a point the stories started to feel hollow.
Bring Oishi back please. He's a better storyteller.
>>139559708
>storyteller
>LN adaptation
>>139559442
I like quality.
>>139558439
>SS all had better character animation.
kill yourself stevie wonder
>>139550631
>best studio
>pornogatari
>>139560067
>what is visual storytelling
>>139559378
>>139559442
>Not liking Kaiki arc
>>139562620
I pretty much didn't like any Monogatari arc.
>>139559708
So,only animation?
The arcs of SS are 10x better than in bake
>>139562620
One of my favorite OPs.
You're just getting bored of the series anon you little faggot. It's bound to happen after 70 some episodes.
>>139562620
>liking reddit garbage
kill yourself
>>139563094
You're a fucking idiot.
>>139550774
Watching Monogatari for sakuga is like playing through Fate/Stay Night for the sex scenes.
>>139563129
sasuga response from a plebbitor
>>139562723
Nice reading comprehension.
I was fine with the quality (plot, animation, etc) from everything we've seen so far.
How retarded am I?
>>139563377
Not at all, I too found the series had pretty uniform quality throughout. Some arcs were more interesting than others but that was true for me since the very beginning.
We can all agree that Hanekawa is best girl, right?
>>139563448
I don't like playing favorites with the Monogataris. All of themexcept snakeare wonderful.
>>139563526
>not liking snake
>>139552605
Doesn't Monogatari consistently sell very well? I won't comment on the /a/ crowd but it seems to be getting exposure where it actually matters to the studio.
>>139563586
I'd rather not get into it, besides you probably know why since snakefags just see all her negative traits as positives. So just think about why you like her and that's probably why I and almost everybody else dislikes her.
>>139563642
>Doesn't Monogatari consistently sell very well?
Yes, it still pulls very impressive numbers despite having over 70 episodes in various seasons now. Talking over 10k per volume still.
>>139563586
She's certainly the most interesting. Would like to see another Snake arc before I make a decision though.
>>139547350
i just watched the whole series over the last week, its all good shit. You people are just letting your own opinions run rampant to the point where you are blind.
>>139564057
How does that make any sense at all? Blinded by my opinions, what the heck? Opinions are just opinions.
>>139558439
everything post-neko has had limited animation. nise had the most animation probably
![1457649117437[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/x5nEiCl.jpg "1457649117437[1].jpg")
Who ordered the crab legs?
>>139565485
I ordered Donuts not Crab so take it back.
>>139564654
>limited animation
Inigo_Montoya.jpg
>>139559708
>and at a point the stories started to feel hollow
Bake's stories were where the series' narrative at it's most hollow, and you can feel it too. Same formulaic structure for all but one of them where girl shows up with problem, plot device Meme man steps in to explain how to sort it out and then you get your obligatory preachy moral of the story at the end.
Fair enough if you just prefer that to the rest of the series, but simply dressing that shit up with some pretty visuals does not make it a masterpiece like people here make it out to be
hell it only made the massively underveloped cast and simplistic & overly naive narrative stick out even more if you actually bothered to pay attention to what you were looking at
>>139565485
I didn't order anything but i'll take it.
>>139566222
bake was the best because it was simple and it didn't rely on faux-intellectual cabbage. it had a single theme and it sticked to it until the end. it started with araragi and hanekawa discussing their plans for the culture festival and ended precisely with them attending said festival. it's someting the rest of the series lacks.
>>139566573
>and it didn't rely on faux-intellectual cabbage
Pretty much none of it does
according to /a/ any series having some sort of running motif makes it tryhard unless it's so simple that discussion of it isn't possible
>>139566573
>it started with araragi and hanekawa discussing their plans for the culture festival and ended precisely with them attending said festival.
I never actually noticed this. Good point.
>>139554636
Those split-second still shots were awful
and they still didn't even manage to cover everything from the LNs somehow, nowhere close with a couple arcs even
Monogatari adapts terribly in anime format. Zaregoto would too for the exact same reasons, I don't get why people here keep complaining about the lack of one.
>>139566573
>it had a single theme and it sticked to it until the end.
Almost every season of Monogatari does this. The only one that didn't was Owarimonogatari and that was only because Vol 3 wasn't animated, not because of a lack of narrative structure.
>Bakemonogatari
Quality
>Nisemonogatari
Slightly better Quality with too mcuh incest
>Neko:Kuro
Slight quality
>Mono:SS
Insane Quality
>Hanamonogatari
Meh quality
>Tsukimonogatari
Quality
>Owarimonogatari
Saved Anime Quality
>Koyomimonogatari
Troll Quality
FTFY
>>139565485
Please take that away and bring back some snail.
>>139567162
second season was all over the place and it lacked narrative structure except for hana which was conveniently separated as an OVA. that was actually a good move by shaft.
>>139567207
>too mcuh incest
Where do these normalfags come from? There wasn't even any actual incest.
>>139567312
This artist doesn't even look western.
>>139567543
What.
>>139567620
From >>139567312 pic related.
>>139567399
Second Season was about the characters growing out of their youths, it beats you over the head with this theme so bluntly even
nothing wrong with SS as far as narrative structure is concerned
>>139566956
>Those split-second still shots were awful
Speak for yourself faggot. Using the same visual trick for everything else would have been tiring though. It was fine in Bake but 15 episodes of that is enough.
>>139567694
No, I obviously understood that you were talking about the post you responded to, what I don't get is why you expect the artist to look Western?
>>139567821
I just didn't expect a western artist to have drawn it so well.
>>139567710
Not him but the rest of the series was ruined because Nisio gave no fucks at all during Nise, which wasn't even supposed to be animated. SS was supposed to be about the characters but these characters had already been ruined because of Nisio's unprofessionalism as a writer.
![[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep01 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_15.46_[2015.08.23_18.26.18].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9vywOhh.jpg "[ANE] Bakemonogatari - Ep01 [BDRip 1080p x264 FLAC].mkv_snapshot_15.46_[2015.08.23_18.26.18].jpg")
>>139556492
He's right though. None of the post Bake backgrounds compare to Oishi's.
>Kizu comes back around to being amazing quality because technically it's before Bake
BRAVO SHAFT
>>139568303
>filming in a theatre instead of just enjoying the damn movie
I mean, I appreciate the leaked footage but that's such a faggot thing to do.
>>139568462
>being appreciative but also complaining
>>139566573
>it didn't rely on faux-intellectual cabbage
Monogatari in general doesn't. You probably just have a personal preference for Oshino being the one to spoonfeed exposition to you over other characters.
Nisio is typically really transparent and handhold-y with his themes. This series isn't "deep" on any level, you're just dense.
>>139568630
i never said it was "deep". faux-intellectual cabbage is precisely faux-intellectual cabbage.
>>139569041
That's what I meant by "deep" in quotation marks
it hardly applies to Monogatari, especially further into the series if anything
![[Raws] Koyomimonogatari - 09 (APP 960x540 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_02.43_[2016.03.05_13.17.44].png](https://i.imgur.com/8DWQzpd.jpg "[Raws] Koyomimonogatari - 09 (APP 960x540 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_02.43_[2016.03.05_13.17.44].png")
Koyomimonogatari gave us the best Shinobu episode we've had since Nise and it's never had good animation anyways.
>>139563094
>>139563291
>buzzword spouting shithead
>posting snake
As expected.
>>139569250
The animation in those mobile shorts was shit but it had some good art direction in some of the latter episodes
Also yeah that episode was nice, Shinobu's at her best when it's mainly her and Araragi just goofing around.
>>139550282
Which one was this from again? Girls making surprised noises is my fetish.
>>139568630
At least Meme didn't spend 10 minutes to get to the fucking point like Gaen does. He did his thing the right way.
>>139569412
It wasn't even entirely goofing around. Like the bath scene in Nise, that was a deliberate discussion of their situation that she dressed up as goofing around so that it wasn't awkward.
>>139569565
I don't think too many people will disagree with you about Gaen, she's obnoxious as hell.
I personally didn't feel that Meme was that much better though. They both feel less like characters and more like plot devices to me most of the time.
>>139569703
Exactly. Which is why I said Meme did his thing the right way.
>>139547350
Post more of this semen demon
![[Blaze077] Koyomimonogatari - 09 - Koyomi Torus [540p].mkv_snapshot_05.49_[2016.03.29_11.21.14].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7j6WIJr.jpg "[Blaze077] Koyomimonogatari - 09 - Koyomi Torus [540p].mkv_snapshot_05.49_[2016.03.29_11.21.14].jpg")
>>139569250
It's objectively the best Koyomi episode. Genuinely funny.
lol what, bakemonogatari had plenty of "quality", only things I can think of that stuck out was the monkey fight and when bat bites cat
nisemono was when shaft had a budget explosion following those huge returns on that budget series pmmm
>>139570658
Okay.
>>139572033
>>139569250
will we ever have real subs?
>>139573133
Maybe once the BD is released.
>>139573133
what's wrong with the ones we got?
>>139573133
subs for koyo were on point. better than HS and commie, honestly.
>>139574255
Weren't they just copied from polaris?
>>139568113
but that means they aren't derivative. they look completely different
>>139574459
those subs were on point. better than HS and commie, honestly.
>>139574626
>inb4 tumblr
I mean, these LN translations
http://polaristranslations.tumblr.com/
When you got cash cows as big as Bake and Madoka you just stop trying. They're deep in their comfort zone now and won't get past it in at least another 6 years.
>>139575420
And now they get Fate/Extra to tide them over for a little while longer.
>>139574743
those translations were pretty on point
>>139576220
Fate extra is just a spinoff game, I doubt they'll be able to milk it as much
>>139550632
I hate that I don't remember this specific part of the movie.
>>139576359
Silver Link has been able to milk Prisma Ilya for like 4 seasons now. Clearly Oonuma has learned more from Shinbo than he's letting on.
>>139576378
that's kizu part 2
Reminder that bird is best girl
>>139579265
She's high tier to be sure, but she's also too much of a brat to win top spot.
>>139580389
That's her appeal, kouhai.
>>139581274
Her appeal is being insightful and not afraid to speak her mind.
>>139581408
So a bitch?
>>139547350
Koyo was an ONA. How you forget that.
>>139581518
No. That would be ignorant, and lets everyone know it.
Part of 'insightful' means that she knows how to pull her punches and not go too far.
>>139581617
So a two face bitch?
>>139581518
Arrogant if anything.
>>139581660
No. That's Gaen.
>>139550795
I ended up hating Hana as the worst shit of that all tension from the koyomi dead LN first release and other events always died because Araragi was fine in Hana. Glad these new LN's of off season have chunks happening after Hana time frame. Hyped for the Deathopia stuff. Though who knows if that will go anywhere.
>>139581805
>all tension from the koyomi dead LN first release and other events always died because Araragi was fine in Hana
Yeah that was the worst.
>>139581805
Maybe Hana Araragi isn't human at all?
>>139547350
>shits on Hana
>Tsuki putting things back on track ever
Shit taste confirmed.
>>139581569
>How you forget that.
OP was too busy fapping over any bit of animation he could get.
>>139582321
You mean less human that usual? Maybe, but I doubt it.
Man I honestly don't even remember. I watched each one as it came out and haven't had the time to go back
I forgot which events happened in their respective seasons
>>139585127
Just watch them all again. It's cool watching earlier seasons with knowledge from the later ones.
>>139585127
>>139585398
I've been thinking about doing this. Except I'm not sure if I want to try watching it in chronological order or not. Maybe I'll wait until it's done for that
>>139566222
I agree with him, the way the stories were presented and executed were poorly done in SS.
>>139583588
At least Tsuki gave us a super powered loli snowball fight during its exposition dump, which was only half as long.
reminder /a/ has shit taste.
and part of that has to do with liking this piece of shit. Where the plot is made up and what happens doesn't matter.
>>139547350
It's all shit after Bake. Owari first half and Some parts of Second Season are decent but it's mostly all trash.
>>139587779
I don't understand people like you, why sit through the entire series if the 2nd one you watched was "trash"
What the fuck is SHAFT doing? Prism Nana has been announced for such a long time and all we got was "muh private projections". Meanwhile, they throw Koyomi shit at our screen.
End yourself SHAFT.
>>139588167
Calm down, you'll be able to buy it eventually.
>>139587654
Thanks Drew Carey
>>139587892
Because Bake was really good and I want to see if they can regain that quality. I think they did at points but it's mostly been disappointing. Also most gatari fans agree that Nise was bad and still watch it so I don't think it's that strange.
>>139588352
I think most people enjoy Nise, they just think it's the worst (that or Hana, usually).
>>139592224
annoying way to draw a mouth
>>139547350
It has a really nice characters especially crab
>>139592328
Its what you plebians call a "smirk"
>>139573133
Commie's gonna do the BDs
>>139550870
It was gloomy Kanbaru moping and Numachi tellling her backstory 3 times.
>>139547350
>tsuki
>back on track
People actually believe this?
>>139588246
There's no way I can calm down. I don't regard SHAFT as a godlike studio (I would say "Madhouse" is more one, but they tend to use lots of people from other studios to do their stuff) but I enjoy their sakuga style that has a sort of "old-fashion" feel to it and can be surprisingly fluid and it's kinda maddening to see them stuck with Nisioisin shit rather than doing more interesting stuff. Monogatari has grown very stale and the shitfest that was Owari comforted me in this train of thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOb9O4irS3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HOAuiY5XFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVi_fs2oz3E
Just fucking end the contract and get shit done.
>>139570658
She's so glossy!
>>139597765
>thinking SHAFT is going to be able to ever match the combination they came into with NisiOisin
I don't think you quite understand, anon. SHAFT has reached their peak, as long as NisiOisin continues to write Monogatari, they are going to make hand over fist when it comes to sales.
Once Monogatari finishes, they aren't going to get any better. They're just going to find another LN series to animate to continue making cash.
What you should really be hoping for is that they use the cash they make from Monogatari to start another original project which fully capitalizes upon the talent within SHAFT in an original production playing to key players strengths.
>Bakemonogatari
Introducing and developing characters with the MC helping solve their oddity related problems
>Nisemonogatari
Focuses on three less developed characters, shifting attention from character interaction and development to how oddities fit in society
>Nekomonogatari
A necessary prequel. Not good or bad on its on, but a lead in to second season, or part 1 of Hanekawa's arc
>Monogatari Second Season
Takes the characters from Bake all the way to their inevitable conclusion. Develops them further by giving each a new oddity related issue to deal with, but there's little to no mystery
>Hanamonogatari
An epilogue to the series before the final season starts, exists mostly to showcase that oddities are still present, but Araragi is no longer needed to deal with them
>Tsukimonogatri
Plot, and nothing but plot to bridge the gap to the next part
>Owarimonogatari
A look at what would happen if Araragi didn't help a girl plagued by oddity related issues, before focusing on developing a character that's been there from the start. The first a return to Bake's mystery storytelling before reverting to Second Season and onwards plot-driven narrartive
>Koyomimonogatari
Slice of life that turns into plot
Am I wrong?
>>139597990
>What you should really be hoping for is that they use the cash they make from Monogatari to start another original project
But that's what I'm hoping for. In fact, I'm constantly hoping for Anichart to be filled with "anime original" mentions. I know this is a fantasy, but I would like Japanese animation to spread its wings and break away from the clutches of manga/LN/VN industries and becomes a true force that can stand alongside them instead of being always treated as the advertising platform and the "read the original source" medium. It's frustrating.
>>139598426
You expect too much from business, anon. That's what anime is first and foremost, a business. They exist to make money and as such they will take the safer route when it comes to animating by picking things with established fanbases.
It's a harsh reality but everything you love is just an off-shoot from amoral business people trying to sell someone something even if you personally aren't paying for it.
>>139569424
I think it was from the 2nd season, when they saved snail and the future went to shit.
>>139595806
too far away.
same with Kizu BDs
>>139597990
Good point there
Bake's probably the most consistent in quality from beginning to end. Visually the prettiest too.
Pretty much all the best individual arcs happen outside of it though. Series is pretty hit-or-miss in general but since people on /a/ typically can only speak in hyperbole, a series can only either be amazing or garbage with no inbetween on here.
>>139547350
>Pornogatari
>>139599120
Good one.
>>139599120
more like waifugatari
HEYO
which monogatari needs more lewds?
Gaen? Sodachi?
>>139599409
Sodachi probably. But I really only care about the lolis. Specifically Snail and Bat.
>>139599409
Easily Sodachi, loli, broken adult and imouto versions.
>>139599409
Shinobu. Adult Hachikuji too. Sure they have lots already, but they need more.
>>139599484
Imouto?
>>139600232
Koyomi Reverse, a story that hasn't been animated yet with some alt reality hijinks (sort of). In that story we get a Sodachi who Araragi managed to seperate from her family and she's been living in the Araragi household ever since as his sister.
>>139597990
>What you should really be hoping for is that they use the cash they make from Monogatari to start another original project which fully capitalizes upon the talent within SHAFT in an original production playing to key players strengths.
It's almost as if they started an original magical girl series in which every episode will have different key staff to show off their talents.
>>139600555
Fuck. Yet another thing I need them to animate that they haven't yet. Already hurts me everyday waiting for Owari2 with snail.
>>139600232
I hope you like Nisio's favorite brand of character development
>>139600873
As long as she is a cute imouto I can deal.
>>139600873
>she gets a mini-ahoge due to living with the Araragis
http://hikarinoakariost.info/yuudachi-houteishiki-atogatari/
l've enjoyed every minute of -gatari thus far
>>139596924
yes. it was fine
They should stop the milking already
>>139602137
This. It is shitty lately
>>139602137
i milked your mother the other day
>Monogatari will either keep getting worse or end
>I have noiw grown attatched to the visuals and will be sad without them
Fuck.
Is a return to form possible? It's weird, their stuff did well, so they probably ended up with more money. Yet they made everything worse with more money.
>>139547350
anything that shaft makes is an overrated pile of shit
>>139602224
>lately
everything after bake is garbage
>>139602450
The only thing Bake was better than was Nise and the OVAs though
>>139602946
*and it was better than Koyomimono too which is an ONA I guess
>>139596074
Numachi does not repeat shit.
But monkey is pretty gloomy at the parts without arararagi-san in them
>>139603076
It's definitely one of those arcs that loses out a lot on Kanbaru's inner thoughts not being present like it is in the LN
>>139601694
Finally, thanks.
>>139603871
she was built for my dick
>>139604168
Shes only like the 6th most sexual character on the show.
>>139600893
If you want some more spoilers, although that's only one of the few parts translated.
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Monogatari_Series:Zoku-Owarimonogatari/Koyomi_Reverse_009
>>139604248
It's not just about her body, her personality makes her quite sexy.
>>139600555
This sounds so cute, holy shit. Why isn't healing-abused-kids moe popular?
>>139600555
>>139604403
Please tell me he molests her just as much as he does his actual sisters?
Sodachi is my daughteru.
>>139604630
I didn't read it, but I wish it's mutual molesting with pauses for math problems. But there are probably just implications either way.
To all the people saying everything is shit after Bake:
Why do you say this? What is it that, for you, makes Bakemonogatari significantly better than everything that comes after? I want some actual reasons, not just a conclusion.
>>139599057
Why isn't this real?
>>139606209
Because it's gay with little chances of thriving.
Kind of like your life
>>139606435
wow
>>139604403
>Sodachi with a cellphone
>implying she can even afford it
am I the only one who liked Nisemonogatari the most?
>>139607857
I liked it more than most people seem to. It properly introduced Shinobu. Thats a huge plus.
It introduced Kaiki.
Big plus.
Had some of the best snail scenes.
Another big plus. Yeah, it had some pointless fanservice, but if you like the characters, NISE had a ton to love.
>>139607715
I know from spoilers thatshe gets one in Sodachi Fiasco, but I'm not sure if it's a gift from her new foster parents or she bought it
>>139605347
Because then they can be contrarian
>>139607952
>pointless fanservice
Says you
