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Posting Best Girl
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Even used toilet paper is better than Lise
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>>139514965
Close
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>>139514965
Yes
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>>139514993
You must have some god-tier used toilet paper then anon.
>>139514965
Good taste.
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>>139514993
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So what are we gona do today? Pretend we are watching episode 13?
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>>139515120
The same thing we do everyday anon.
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>>139515120
Sounds like a plan!
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>>139515151
But that is haram anon.
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>>139515120
I'm just going to worship Katia
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>>139515151
>following this picture, Lise was immediately directed to room 3 on the left where she'd spend the rest of her birthday eating cream cookies
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that's not kneesocks
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>>139514965
Fucking niggers! Make the new thread before we go to archive land!
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>>139515199
That is also haram

Anett is the only way to Paradise.
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>>139515210
You mean getting creampied by hundreds of men
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>>139515231
m8
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>>139514965
Stasimouto a cute.
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>>139515151
>>139515058
>>139515018
>>139515007
>>139514998
>>139514965
>not being a Beatofag.
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>>139515240
>>>>>>>>>>>
I guess I deserved it for trying to be more subtle than three nukes detonating in sequence on /a/.
>>139515280
>not being both
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>>139515231
Last post on last thread was
04:10:07
With the word panic

This thread was made on 04:10:07
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>>139515328
>>139515323
>mfw
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>>139515278
>genuine sweet smile of happiness
>>139514965
>despair-filled smile of madness
How do we fix her
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>>139515280
Beato is a good second
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>>139515409
Just another stasi trick

Dont get tricked.
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>>139515452
More of Beato-san for me!
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>>139515581
I'd sample Iris
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>>139515452
>http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/character04.html
>click her hand
>I-I don't want to be touched...
>touch her crotch enough
>...I understand.
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>>139515597
The stasi trained her good.
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>>139515433

Give her a brother who lives her and appreciates everything she's done for him but shows zero curiosity for the specifics of what she has actually done
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>>139515433
>How do we fix her
We dress up as Theo and head-pat her until she falls asleep and has nice dreams
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>>139515597
A lot of dudes touched her in that region
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>>139515581
Why is Beatrix always trying to make her hips look bigger when she's around Iris? Is it a dominance thing, or is she just insecure?
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>>139515161
Well How will episode 13 be? Will we follow the story of Katia and Theo?

Will we be following the story of a NVA rifleman on the Western frontlines?

A-10 getting the whole episode and doing nothing but shooting beta?
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>>139515597
>touch her mouth
>mouths aren't just for talking you know. They're also for ki~ssing
:^)
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>>139515597
Thats pretty fucked

>>139515677
>brother would often pet me.. he would always tell me that I'm cute!
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>>139515433
>How do we fix her

She'd honestly be more easy to fix than Beatrix.
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>>139514965

Picked these up from Hiroki (SM's author) twitter. Basically, his character analyses:

アイリスディーナについて。アイリスディーナはメインヒロインのひとりとして、「主人公を導く存在」として考えられました。また、僕なりの「理想の指揮官像のひとつ」を投影しています。ただ、おかげであまりに完璧すぎて、テオドールには苦労させてしまったと思っています(汗)。
Irisdina is one of the main heroines and acts as a guide to the other characters. I projected my image of the "ideal commander [when writing her]". I had the same struggle as Theodor, [Iris] is simply too perfect (sweat).

→ >Irisdina Bernhard

→ Perfect Heroine.

→ Hiroki's self-insertion character.

→ A wish-fulfillment character associated with self-insertion undisguised representation of the author; as "a ludicrously empowered author proxy".

→ Cliche kuudere stereotype with huge boobs,

→ A plot device to develop the MC.

→ A plot device that motivates the MC.

→ MC's main love interest.

→ She becomes a damsel in distress, who requires a charming prince (MC) to achieve her rescue.

→ Boring and bland.

→ Who throughout the course of the anime accumulated a whopping 8 minutes of screen time.(Anime)

→ With no great TSF's battle scenes.

→ With no great TSF's action scenes

→ Not only that, but there's zero character development.

→ She's a generic waifushit being an extremely overrated and overvalued character by cause of autistic retards and waifufags.

→ Irisdina is literally the worst character in Muv-Luv Franchise.
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>>139515741
24 minutes of grappler-kun trying, and failing, to kill anything
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>>139515769
Yes we saw it last thread. Could you not use literal meme-tier arrows and just use the memearrow though, and get rid of the doublespace so your shitpost looks smaller?
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>>139515813
Dont bully Grappler.
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>>139515757
>Lise-waiting-for-her-next-group-of-twenty-men-as-she-thinks-of-oniichan-and-hopes-hes-okay.jpg
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>>139515860
>Forgetting to remove name
You are the worst shitposter I have seen.

Also Samefag
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>>139515870
Fuckin hell rest in peace you goddamn angel extraverse when
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>>139515870
>twenty
Make that twenty thousand
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>>139515741
>Will we be following the story of a NVA rifleman on the Western frontlines?
>A-10 getting the whole episode and doing nothing but shooting beta?

I feel like doing both of these things would be a good idea, but combining them probably and having time for some decent d'aww and/or lewd might require episode 14 as well.

I know; Season 2 can be the Pit Masters!
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>>139515901
inb4 comment about you being Polish or accusing you of being a bunch of random MAL and wiki posters no one cares about.
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>>139515757
>Lise painted that table with cum dripping out of her loose vagina
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>>139515962
Not all at once though.
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I think it's been said before, but Lisefags, Katiafags, and Beatrixfags will be the last ones standing in these Schwarzesmarken threads. Lise and Beatrix may not have won in the LN/Anime, but they did win our hearts.
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>>139515991
Oh well.

Mfw I want to shoop in absolutely haram and halal on every picture I feel it would it.

Or am I going too far?
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>>139516075
>Lise and Beatrix may not have won in the LN/Anime, but they did win our hearts.
Yeah, I think having your girl get a bad end makes it harder to let go.
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>>139515280
I read that as beating a Beatofag.
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>>139516075
>all the worst girls
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>>139516075
Lise and Beatrix are stuck with canonical bad ends, and not the bittersweet type either. The feeling of empty anger lasts longer than the warm glow of satisfaction.
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>>139516278

Well, Best Girl is obvious.
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Posting best girls
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>>139516473
Threesome when, and not with Theodor?
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>>139516493
With the Master
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>>139516493
>not with Theodor
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>>139515716
No clue.

Maybe it is a breeding thing?
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>>139516075
Well it is hard having such good taste~
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>>139516521
If Lise survived she could have protected his smile. You killed your guardian angel Theo no wonder shit only got worse
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>>139516292
It's not just that they lost, it's that they were losing from the start, suffering the most, then at the very end, lost in the worst ways possible without ever actually getting any payoff or sympathy.

Another thing that makes it even worse is that their character stories are never explained properly. When Beatrix throws out Jurgen, both the audience and the characters in story are basically drawing a complete blank (it would've been nice if Theo had demanded an explanation over this).
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>>139516738
>Good Taste

>Not good strategy tho
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>>139516573
What Im doing is calling a spade a spade.

What you are doing is shitposting and pretty much upvoting your own shitpost.
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>>139516825
>not good strategy
Nah, barring intelligence like ACTUALLY DEVELOPING COUNTERMEASURES HOLY SHIT LASERS ARE NOT INVINCIBLE WHY THE FUCK ARE MECHAS A THING EVEN THEY'RE A WASTE OF RESOURCES, her strategy would be a good delaying tactic.
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>>139515991
Can we stop bringing that cancer up?

The threads deserve better than that.
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>>139517036
I can't understand why they haven't designed tanks with bigger guns (152mm) or started pumping out BMPs with 57mm cannons.

Or fuck me, use some bigger artillery.
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>>139516814
Theo is extremely ruthless. He doesn't care about sob stories. If you are his enemy, he won't hesitate to kill you. Even anime Beatrix's death was kind of senseless when you see that he'd pretty much fucked her ability to fight back. Takeru or Hibiki wouldn't of likely stabbed the cockpit at that point of the fight, but Theo did.

Irregardless of his moral ambiguity, he's a horrible older brother. He didn't even track Axmann down and kick his ass after Lise told him about what he did to her.
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>>139517101
The authors dont know what they are doing.

>pic related.

And im pretty sure they will give the BETA new superpowers to render your proposal moot or some kind of handwaveium.
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>>139517101
Muv-luv has some pretty cool shit, but its warfare makes about as much sense as the tactics seen in star wars movies. Its more of a backdrop for the drama.
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>>139517165
>caring about used goods who manipulated you, tortured your friends for fun and killed the best girl who gave you a boob hug

Suzy was right
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>>139516948
tsk, tsk, tsk, speak the truth is a shitposting.
Do You have 5 Years of age?
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>>139517036
ALM
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>>139517165
>he won't hesitate to kill you
Disregarding the fact that the only reason he has the ability to kill anything is due to the little sister whose sob story he ignored?
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>>139514965
Is katiabullying still allowed?
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>>139517417
Considering the Stasi and the DDR is gone.

Yes
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>>139517165
I think that's a good thing. Apparently, in the LNs, Theo was the only 666th member who didn't feel guilty over killing people.
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>>139517165
Theo is a prick.

Fuck him.
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>>139516814
>(it would've been nice if Theo had demanded an explanation over this

That was kind of weird. You'd expect Theo to stop and go "Wait, wait, what do you mean BERNHARD?!" but it's like he was completely un-phased by everything.
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>>139517709

That was the plan
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>>139517818
It's always frustrating in an anime/book/movie/show/whatever when you got a decent idea of what's up while the protagonist knows nothing and is completely uninterested in finding out.
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>>139515433
A 9am to the brain
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>>139517944
I really like this fanart.
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>>139517874
>Theo got AIDS from fucking that
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>>139517366
>>139517682
Both brother and sister were messed up pretty bad by their experience. If their roles were reversed Theo would have probably gone straight to master mode.
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>>139518193
And not An Incredibly Delicious Sylvia, either. Actual HIV.
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>>139518257
Heavenly imouto vagina?
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>>139518193

He deserved it
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>>139518257
For all the hate Sylwia gets from other anons she is much cleaner than Lise on the virtue that only a handful of dudes dicked her as opposed to Lise who had every penis in the Warsaw Pact inside of her
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>>139515769
I will buy and play the VN hopefully to see a good Iris end.
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>>139518321

How many penises would you say are in the Warsaw Pact? Considering she only had three years to take all those dicks... wow.
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big ass
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>>139518257
I wonder if Lise orders girls to be raped because she knows firsthand how horrid it feels
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>>139518402
Every guy in the stasi, I won't be surprised if part of graduating is a rite where the dude cums inside Lise

Every politician and high-brow in Germany, not just the DDR

Every enlisted soldier and officer in the DDR, minus Theo initially

All of their friends had their fair share of fun

A few Westerners that slipped into the cracks

Polish troops (probably the same dudes who dicked Sylwia and more)

Hohol troops, Balkan troops, Baltic troops and Central Asian troops

Russians who were cut off from the Eastern main force

Refugees and homeless dudes
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>>139518402
More like one year. Half a year was spent with the border guard (because Axmann loves irony) and the remainder with Beatrix.
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>>139518705
I can't decide if I should hate Axmann more for doing this for more or less the lulz or Theo more for not giving a shit and not trying to comfort her.
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>>139518705

Well, 3 years * 365 days/year * 24 hours per day...

She has slightly more than twenty-six thousand hours to take dicks, minus time to sleep.

How many dicks can she average in one hour?
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>>139518842
Probably Axmann.

He fucked over Beatrix and Iris too.
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>>139518937
>How many dicks can she average in one hour?

A lot
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>>139518978

But Axman is consistently hilarious.
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>Lise side story from Schwarzesmarken Requiem vol 2

Lise was captured and gangraped by the Stasi.
She wanted to give her first time to her brother.
Axmann told that it was all recorded, and would be shown to her brother unless she does what they say.

She agrees. Axmann (The Stasi Armed Police Security Force "Grey Beast" as per chapter) was the one who broke her. He tells her after the first time "Don't worry, I won't be touching you. I'm a guy who likes cleanliness, and after your new friends had fun with you, you're filthy."

She undergoes training to be a fem-fatal sleeper operative, getting her body used to get information for the Stasi. She also ends up being the secret mistress for the Security Force.

So with Imouto already undergoing training, if they took in Theodore as well, there would be a risk of them meeting, thus spoiling the plan to use Lise. They let him run loose to have a hold on Lise. Not to mention that if Oni-chan knew Lise was in with the Stasi, he would know who screwed him over as well, since he always thought she was dead.

She believes Axmann planned to us her that way from the start.
Constantly crying for Oni-san to save her when she is alone, but knows her body is too defiled already, having lost count of how many had had her.

Theodore managed to join the army after getting tortured, the NVA and Stasi are political rivals, so they couldn't really touch him without an excuse. That's why they had to send Lise in to get Irisdine.

After the events in Schwarze with Irisdine getting captured, she is blindfolded in Theodor's arms, apparently before her execution at his hands.

Thank you, relvierting, for all the translation work you are helping us with!
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>>139518937
>time to sleep
The foggy state of mind that accompanies mindbreak substitutes for sleep anon.
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>>139518842

Axmann was doing his job - well - by ruining Lise.

Theo utterly failed to do his job as an Onii-chan by not letting her confide in him.
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>>139518842
I dislike Theo for brutally depriving the world of semen demons. I think he's killed more cute girls than the majority of mecha protagonist. Certainly the biggest killer of cute/hot girls in Muv-Luv.

>>139519054
>Hey Lise, why are you hesitating with that baby. It's seen too much; you wouldn't want it telling any of our little secrets to the rest of the world, would you?
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>>139519037
what are they doing?
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>>139519132
You know what I like this explanation
I was wondering why I hated Theo more than Axmann when Axmann is roughly eighty times worse than the entirety of the SS.
Axmann is supposed to be the smooth sadist fuck who's really into his torture job.
Theo is just a massive faggot.
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>>139519130
>still no sperm edit
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>>139519186
>pretending to be pure
What if I told you Theo saw the video of you riding fat politician cock and that's why he doesn't care about you
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>>139519186
>when you tell Lise it's your first time
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>>139519214
>Theo

You can't self insert as him, since he's not a one-dimensional/wish-fulfilment beta faggot, And definitely not pandering with him being good looking with a real human being having failures and successes, being inconstant, confused, selfish, contradictory, inconsistent and complex, and like all humans, he fails and makes mistakes.

He's very different and clearly not the same as those beta faggots MCs found in Light Novels, Mangas, Visual Novels and Animes where the MC got a good looks, a calculating mind, thoughtful, intelligent, empathetic, sense of humor and a cool guy.

Definitely a NON-wish-fulfilment, and not pandering, and cannot be self inserted, since he's not a beta faggot (based on /a/, shounentards or shoujofags said).

Much refreshing for you who hates all those beta faggots MCs found in Light Novels, Mangas, Visual Novels and Animes or forced drama, triangle love, romcom, SOL, shounen, shoujo, harem, ecchi and chinese cartoon.
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>>139519265
>What if I told you Theo saw the video of you riding fat politician cock and that's why he doesn't care about you

What if I told you Axman gave Theo the Complete Collection and he used it for fapping material ever since?
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>>139519293
>when she can tell it isn't because you're moving your hips in a 'it's my third time the first was some hooker the second time was my homeroom teacher' kind of way
>>139519329
Pasta +4 right here.
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>>139519214
He is based on Reinhard Heydrich. Anyone who's seen any of the films based around the Wannsee Conference knows that guy is smooth as ice, and about as cold too. Even Hitler made remarks about the guy's sociopathy and all the SS under him hated him.
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>>139519265
>Heheheh Lise-chan, how many men did you have sex today?
>"O-one h-hundred..."
>Oh? That's quite a lot for a young girl
>"I-I w-want m-more..."
>Say again?
>"More, I like cocks..."
>Heheheh good girl, now here's a hundred more men for you
>They've been waiting to cum inside you
>I wonder who will be the father this time?
>Heheheh never mind, its not like you're going to give birth anyway
>"T-thank you mister..."
>Oh don't thank me Lise-chan, after you clean yourself you know where to go later tonight
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>>139519408
>>>/ShindoL/
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>>139519242

MS PAINT YO
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>>139519132
Interesting explanation. I still don't know why I'm alright with Axmann but absolutely hate others like Beatrix.
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>>139519427
>twins with different fathers
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>>139519427
I think he meant on the face.
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Inia, Cryska and Yui are my waifus.
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>>139519505
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>>139519576
>Yuimoto's face when she tells you she's pregnant
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>>139519594
How will it be named? The Master named the first one Beatrix right?
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>>139519458
>hate Beatrix
What?
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>you will never eat currywurst with Ursula
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>>139519822
Disgusting.
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>>139519681
Dunno. She comes off as kinda ridiculous. She's as evil as Axmann but lacks his charm, while at the same time having motivations that don't line up with what she's doing.

She's still got a hot design though, but that's not enough for me.
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>>139519822
>you will never take Lise on a boat ride just to rub her seasick tummy till it feels better
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>>139519894
You hate anime!Beatrix or Beatrix in general, because that complaint is common to a lot of people. Beatrix in the anime comes off as goofy and over-the-top and generally insane instead of the pinpoint insanity she's supposed to have.
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>>139519822
>you'll never protect Katia from Fish & Chips
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>>139520106
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>>139519980
Hiroki stated in his twitter feed that Beatrix was just as rationale and "right" as Iris was.
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>>139520263
What's your point
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>>139520263
But that isn't what was portrayed in the show. Although to be fair every character was changed to some extent for better or worse.
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>>139520330
Mainly for worse anon.
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>>139520263
Yeah, it was surprising that he said that Beatrix's ideals aren't wrong and that her answer is just one of many that are reasonable in their situation, along with calling her a heroine like Iris:

https://twitter.com/uchidahiroki/status/715940630501859329

Maybe the anime doesn't do a good job of showing it or something.
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>>139519594
Her reaction when I propose.
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What do you do with your first date with Beato-san?
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>>139520560
>her face when she tells you deeper but you tell her you are all out of dick
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>>139520330

To be honest, other than not getting a hug, I thought Lise's death in the show was better in the sense that she was already dying when Theo shot her, and he got to have his little speech.

The death in the LN was much more tragic, because he was essentially forced to shoot her, and she had to pretend to be crazy otherwise he wouldn't have been able to go through with it. It was very tragic. Beautiful, even.
But I also think he could have worked harder to keep her alive, perhaps by offering to use her as a hostage against the Stasi, or something like that. Heck, part of the tragedy is that they weren't able to stall until Katja arrived, because she could have gotten everyone to get along.

So, The LN death was a better story development, but Lise's anime death seemed kinder.
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>>139520263
Beatrix was surely rational, she had it all planned out with reasoning behind each step. That doesn't mean she was a sane woman, you can almost feel the cracking in her head.
>>139520560
The only reason Beatrix is the 'bad guy' is because we're presented with the point of view of those specifically opposed to her. imo Iris was much less of a heroine than either Beatrix or Katia because both Bea and Katia had some sort of endgame. What the hell was Iris's endgame? 'independence..and then what? get overrun by the fucking BETA?'
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>>139520625
>having a small dick
>>139520640
>Lise acting like an insane faggot just to protect oniichan to the very end
>Therefore, absolutely do not remember me for this dog of the stasi did not exist
Literally fuck Theo every time I see Lise I am filled with the rage a thousand suns cannot hope to match
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>>139520645
Iris was a basic bitch of the worst type that lacked zero passion in her life.

She is the most normie out of all the characters.
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>>139520720
>Axmanns-new-form-of-torture-bad-fanart.jpg
Effective t b h l a d
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>>139520640
>Lise end - Schwarzesmarken - vol.5 - Anime - Episodes 9 and 10

All the 666 squadron gets arrested by the stasi, except for Theo and Katia who manages to escape, along with Gretel who I think was in Berlin at the time. Theo's Mig 21 get shot down during the escape, and then he along with Katia wander in a forest until Gretel finds them along with the rebels. They move to the rebels headquarters and meet General Heim, the leader there. After this Theo goes to rescue the members of the squadron after getting information about were they were held. He finds everyone there except for Irisdina, whose whereabouts is unknown at the time. Even though he made it in time before the stasi killed anyone of the squadron, they were all exhausted from torture; Walter had his bones freakin folded, and pham lost all her back tooth. After freeing them, they start escaping, but Lise finds them and tries to stop them, were after Theodore engages her in a fight. In this fight, Pham tries to make the siblings stop fighting, however apparently Lise gets annoyed by this, and her response was shooting her with a 36mm round, which blew the upper half of Pham's body. At the end, theodore successfully defeats Lise in his Mig-21, and she is then taken in by the rebels.

They go back to the base and start questioning Lise, which then leads to the rebels asking Theodore to execute Lise himself.
A bound Lise was ranting about how Theodor should go over to the dark side, in a room filled with other people of the rebellion. Theodor finally accepted that she was too broken and twisted, and after hugging her, put his gun to her head, and squeezed...
Her last words when she was temporally in a lucid state of mind, were "Therefore, forget me... Absolutely, do not remember me. Because this dog of the Stasi, does not exist..."

Meanwhile katia was headed to were the execution was to try and stop it, but was too late as she heard the gunshot from a distance, at which she crumbled to the ground.
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>>139520752
Her goal don't make sense though, it's like the balkans ripping themselves into smaller and smaller countries in the modern day, what's even the point?
Katia's goal is idealistic but if she could get it to somehow work it's humanity's best bet at blowing the BETA the fuck out
Beatrix's goal is to basically buy time for people to figure something out like you know orbital railguns
Iris's goal is a fat nothing.
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>>139520645
>>139520964
Um, yeah. Here's some Jap talking about how Iris's "angelic" goals are terrible:

>戦術機の戦闘を編み出したのがアイリスの兄貴でベアトリスクの彼氏のユルゲンな。二人ともユルゲンの意志を継いで闘ってたんだが、結局二人は道を違えることになった。アイリスは民衆を救いたいというのが基本で、ベアトリスクはベータを倒すことが最終目標だった。実は兄貴の考えはベアトリスクに近いん>だよな。アイリスはホンマは天使のような心根の持ち主だから、情緒的な思いだけで行動してて、人情でなんとかなるだろうぐらいの考えでしかない。
>これを踏まえて、テオドールがアイリスの思いを継いだとしても、行き詰まるのがわかるわな。

>Beatrix's boyfriend and Iris's brother, Jurgen helped create TSFs/ tactics they used. Both [his precious people] follow in his footsteps, but still find themselves on different roads.
>Iris wished to save the populace [of East Germany] while Beatrix's ultimate ends was always defeating the BETA. To tell the truth, [Jurgen's] ideals were closer to Beatrix's. Iris was like an angel but acted off of emotions and did not give a thought to what would become of humanity.
>With that it mind, it's clear that even though Iris's ideals are in Theo's hands, these ideals will reach their limits/bog things down.

There's some other old 2ch posts blasting Iris and Theo that I could dig up. You also have the anicobin polls, where over 55% of people (out of 750) said that Beatrix was right.

Even Hiroki was stating on his twitter that SM is about what happens when adolescent idealism is forced into reality.
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>>139520561
So nothing?
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>>139520964
>Iris's goal is a fat nothing.
Getting Stasi out of everyone's hair is a decent enough goal. They're clearly out of control and it shows when they wantonly decide whether to aid the NVA or not with TSFs that should belong to the Army instead of them in the first place.
Also, how much information is there on post-SM Best Germany? Given that they're still around in 2000s I guess they're doing relatively well to not get absorbed by the Wessies.
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>>139521529
>someone saved my image

But yes. Iris is a shit.
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>>139520566
I cuddle with her and hang out. Nothing big, it's the second date that I meticulously plan out. Maybe she'll do the cooking, that would be nice.
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>>139521671
What type of cooking?
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>>139520566

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zboV3_9KY
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>>139521584
They never reunite. Also, Germany falls a few months after the epilogue with Katia because the Oder-Neisse was undermanned and they were facing horrible desertion rates.
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>>139521791

Yeah, but under The BeatoPlan, they would have been undermanned because of all the people they were shooting in the face.
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Anyone got lyrics of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSRlmv5YnE
yet?
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>>139521791
Yes, I know that, but even after evacuating elsewhere East Germoney is still an independent political entity. I'd like to know more about how they're doing.
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>>139521887

They're an irrelevant Potato State that West Germany uses when they need an expendable first wave.
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>>139521866
Nobody had a good plan really. Beatrix's relies on people continuing to hold the line and commit suicide with her. People aren't exactly rationale when backed into a corner and deprived of hope. Germany would've probably collapsed within the same timeframe as Katia's or Iris's plan.
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Iris is love, Iris is life
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>>139521866

Nah brah, you decimate the deserters and put the rest into penal battalions.
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>>139521967
>the one Iris fag

How do you do it?
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>>139521961

That's sort of my key point. All the heroine's plans were bad choices.

Schmidt was the only one with a decent plan that might have let East Germany hold on longer.
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>>139521961
Railguns
Long-range large caliber artillery
Orbital bombardment
Mist-field to disperse lasers
Prismatic armor and cloaking technology
Examining the BETA corpses for biological weaknesses (they're fucking silicon ffs they must have weaknesses that don't affect humans)
Examining Laser-classes to replicate their potential
etcetc
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>>139522122

No, most of these plans sound far to American to ever possibly work!
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>>139522061
Penal battalions only work when they're an opportunity to redeem yourselves. Soviet ones, for instance, considered a battlefield injury, surviving X number of battles or a feat of personal heroism grounds enough to restore the convict in rank and rights.
Telling people with loaded guns that they're expendable and expected to die uselessly is a bad idea.
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>>139522069
>Only one.
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>>139522069
Hustle, Loyalty and Respect
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>>139522101
>ALL the heroines plans
>Get the fuck out with your bone headed brother and live the life the two of you planned from the beginning.
Sounds pretty good to me.
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>>139522101
In the LN, he had the worst plan. Basically nuke everything because he couldn't have it, then run. It's why Beatrix was so incredibly pissed that she lost all composure when he gloated about it to her. The anime doesn't get across how angry she really was. They described it as her losing her sexy mask/smirk and turning feral.
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>>139522122
>Examining the BETA corpses for biological weaknesses (they're fucking silicon ffs they must have weaknesses that don't affect humans)
Considering they are built to mine any planet that possibly can exist, maybe no weakness?
>Examining Laser-classes to replicate their potential
Nigga G elements.

I aint gotta explain shit it's aliums.
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Best girl?

That doesn't look like Haruka.
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>>139521884
That is a really good song.

Shame there are no lyrics
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>>139522101
Why wasn't there anyone with the obvious idea of "suck Western dick until they come help reinforce the Line?"
Or was Western Yurop a bunch of dumbasses who never planned on the line collapsing? It would explain why they lost their half of the continent in two years.
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>>139522176

Yeah, this is an important factoid. At a certain point, getting everyone to line up in front of the machine guns blocking their retreat will be harder than fighting the BETA.

Beato's problem, I think, is that she assumes everyone is as monomaniacal as she is.
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This show looked like ass, the characters were paper thin, the aliens were ugly and the plot was boring as fuck.
>2016
>eyebrows still going through the hair
>eyeliner still going through the hair
Holy shit I'm glad it's over.
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>>139521791
>>139521866
>>139521961
36000 friendly Cubans.

100000 socialist friends from Africa and South America.
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>>139522261
>maybe no weakness

Maybe then they couldn't move?
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>>139522261
>no weakness
They're made of silicon-based compounds, and there is no compound in the world that is inert (or rather if it were inert then life wouldn't work since there would be no reactions happening)
Take a cut from their ''''flesh'''' and find a suitably potent poison to fuck them over.
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>>139522366
>>139522370
G element :^)
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>>139522352
>36000 friendly Cubans.
Does Cuba ever get mentioned at all in ML? Given that this is alt-history, the Cuban Revolution might not have happened at all.
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>>139522244

Well, there IS a viable plan for holding the line that involves the careful and judicious use of copious volumes of thermonuclear weapons, so I just kind of assumed he wasn't going to be an assclown.

That was probably my mistake.
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>>139522452
No the fucking nippons never mentined cubans anywhere.

Cuba may as well not exist.
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>>139522435
>G element

>Doesn't know about G-elements being a limiting factor on laser procurement

>Doesn't realize that if all combat strains had that much, we could consume on the flesh of the fallen to make G-Bombs.
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>>139522293

That was part of beato's plan but she couldn't advertise it while the other stasi were alive and kicking. Kirke kind of ruined it for her.
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>>139522268
Why are double ahoges so great?
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>>139522460
>>139522244
Why the fuck don't they just the nukes outside of East Germany?
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>>139522528
Considering the BETA has to go back to the hive or recharge, otherwise they will drop dead.

I guess G element or some kind of space magic is behind it all.
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>>139522293
>>139522537
Beatrix sucked UN dick though. Her final speech to her men even talked about strengthening the United Nations so that they could actually do shit.
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Beatrix kept people facing the BETA since they were too terrified to fight Beatrix. Human lives had become worthless, existing only to throw into the grinder and hope one day the BETA choke on the paste.

Iris assumed people would unite and fight together, believing in the potential of the human heart and we'd all come together and sing koombaya or something.

Beatrix was right; the world leaders are still backstabbing and sabotaging each other in the future looking ahead to a "post-BETA world" and blind to the inarguable fact the BETA have made nothing but consistent gainz cuz they eat oatz n do squatz a day and even Yuimouto's railgun which was made by japanese expert blacksmiths who forge light over 1,000 times would be rendered ineffective since the BETA adapt like the fucking borg. They would at best steal back a little territory before the BETA evolved some kind of anti-railgun unit
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>>139522435
The G-Element literally doesn't matter. The laws of thermodynamics imply that there exist reactions that obliterate whatever constitutes BETAs, because BETA are lifeforms that move under their own power.
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>>139522577
Because they want to recapture the land.

I know, it's a bullshit reason.
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>>139522577
This.
Considering that baters come in waves, it seems like enough time to plant remotely-triggered charges east of the line in one of the lulls. There's nothing but a barren waste there, anyway.

Or so it seems. The series has shown even relatively intact infrastructure in Gdansk, so I'm not sure if "Baters leave nothing but flat, featureless desert" holds true anymore
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When can we expect a Sandniggerland muv-luv?
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>>139522625
>Iris assumed people would unite and fight together, believing in the potential of the human heart and we'd all come together and sing koombaya or something.

That's Katia. Iris was the nationalistic one who distrusted the West and the UN (and she was right in a way, they were secretly backing Beatrix and even working with Axmann)
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>>139522694
>Muv Luv: Arab Spring
>OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFR7eki-5Ik
>ED: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ivub38kOI
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>>139522625
>Beatrix was right

You assume that there's no limit to how far you can push that method.

Human history would suggest that you are somewhere between deeply and utterly wrong.
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>>139522694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VhQxqH8KuI

Something great.
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What happened to all the other Warsaw Pact nations? Didn't they form their own alliance with East Germany after Soviets got btfo'd during Palailogos?
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>>139522805
You are 100% correct.

Beato-san's plan would of never worked as East Germany was at breaking point.
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>>139522625
>since the BETA adapt like the fucking borg

Niger, what are you smoking? They used the exact same shit in '83 as they did in '98 and '01. The Laser Fort is the sole exception, and that's more of a kitbash than intelligent (bio)engineering.
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>>139522878
They got absorbed into the NVA since they lost their land.
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>>139522694

A muvluv with Arab army dynamics would be fascinating.
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>>139522980

You notice that the sandniggers lost even sooner than the commies, right?
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>>139522625
>BETA adapt like the fucking borg
If only that was the case.

If only.......
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>>139522980
Schwarzesmarken's scenario would've made sense with them.
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>>139522180
>>139522205

Iris’s not a human so much as she is a Barbie Doll, except instead of plastic, she’s molded from untempered wish fulfillment.
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>>139523025
Her mom was a piece of shit so that must run in the family.
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>>139523006

Are those adaptations literally just 'bigger, and metal as fuck', or am I missing something?
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>>139522370
Aren't BETA carbon based?
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>>139523127
I thought they were silicon based, but if they're carbon based then we already know how to take them the lolshit apart.
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>>139523025
Stay mad Beatofag
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>>139523127

That is correct. So it should just be a matter of figuring out their biochemistry to produce at least somewhat effective tailored nerve agents, metabolic inhibitors, necrolysis inducers, or the like.
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>>139523111
Sounds about right.

>>139523127
>>139523168
If I understand it right, the BETA is Carbon based but their creator is silicon.

The creator is full retard and thinks that carbon based sentient lifeforms is impossible.
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>>139523168

the beta are considered robots by their creators, who are silicon based.
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>>139523257
That's almost literally unfathomable though. Silicon is less versatile than Carbon in terms of bonding, why would carbon-based sentience be impossible if Silicon is? Anything Silicon bonds to Carbon can as well.
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>>139523315

They were an organic silicon intelligence. We can't actually expect a species that exhales solid material to be very competent.

But don't worry. We'll find them, someday.
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>episode 13

Calling it now but is going to be shit.
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>>139523714
How do you know?

It will be atleast better quality then TE
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>>139523863
>mfw
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>>139523916
Japanese doll please.
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>>139524054
What is this japanese doll meme
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Yui is a miracle of the universe.
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>>139524156

It's just a nickname for Yui. Watch TE if you want to know more.
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>not playing with sexy japanese dolls

Yuuya sure is a faggot
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>>139524156
It's from TE my doll friend.
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>>139524195
>>139524054
I want to face fuck her!
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>>139515597
I wanna know what Sylwia is saying!
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>>139523714
>he didn't read the LN
Its gonna be an epilogue where everyone goes to the great Onsen in the sky and don't have to worry about fighting or hurting anyone else anymore. In fact as they slip in to the warm waters they can't seem to at all recall what it was that they had made out to be so important, so in dire need of pain and self sacrifice. Their memories fade into the rising mists clearing their minds of all worry and inhibition. All that their present attention can attend to is the healing warmth relaxing their weary muscles and aching bones. And thats when they see it, that all their loved ones, past and present are there waiting for them. Welcome to the end anon.
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>>139523315
To expand a bit on it, carbon based bonds are so common that it is impossible for intelligent life forms, with an established existence (and some other things I honestly forgot) to exist and thus humans are recyclable shit.
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>>139524054
>>139524195
Yui is for handholding, missionary under the sheets with the lights off for the sole purpose of repopulating the human race
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>>139523257
Is there a better quality version of that Shiranui II Phase 3 lineart?
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>>139524384
That's...not how basic chemistry works.
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>>139524331
STOP TRYING TO CHEER ME UP LISEFAG
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>>139524287
Hair
>It's just my shitty hair.
>Stop touching it.
Forehead
>What are you doing? Stop it.
>Don't make me repeat myself! Stop it!
Eyes
>With these eyes, I've seen many die.
>Perhaps the next one I see will be you.
Mouth
>I hate people who only know how to talk.
>Words are empty, speak with your actions.
Hand
>I have no interest in half-baked pilots.
>It seems you need to be re-educated.
Boobs
>This isn't going to happening again.
>This is your time to regret.
Legs
>Rude
>Stop touching me

Sorry anon, my motivation ran out at the end. You should get the gist of it though.
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>>139524405
Best girl with best TSF.
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>>139524619
What about her crotch
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>>139524683
Oh, I knew I was forgetting something
>You want to die!?
>Let's see, how about we use you as BETA bait? Get ready.
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>>139524528
no
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>>139524728
>how about we use you as BETA bait?
d-does this mean you're ALPHA
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>>139524728
Might as well do the outfits too
>It's just the standard issue BDU. It's nothing special.
>To kill even a single more BETA - that's what this is for.
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>>139524619
Based anon! Thank you.
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>>139524751
t-thanks

y-you too
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>>139524619
>>139524728
>>139524785
This is just like her. Only Walter can touch her.
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>>139524991

Turns out a rape victim has personal space issues. Surprising, isn't it.
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>>139524728
>>139524619
>implying she didn't enjoy it
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>>139525035
Not really.
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>>139524435
I'll assume you haven't played the trilogy or it has been a long time.

But that's just what the superior thinks about humanity. He even gave Takeru a chance to prove that humanity are indeed a life form, but he can't think of anything in the short time between the question and what happens just after that.

I find it a bit weird too, but it's like they're elite and we're plebs. Nobody acknowledges plebeians.

Take a cute Kasumi so you don't think too much about it.
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>>139524829
Everything is going to be okay anon. It might not always seem like it but never forget that burning light inside you that reaches ceaselessly for love, for attachment, for everything good that reaps despair. It is not sin to desire what you need to feel whole, but to ever think you are unworthy is the very foundation that causes our downfall.
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