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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
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>>139425545
普通のスタイルありたとう！
If I set aside ~2 hours a day for practice, how long will it take before I'll be mostly understand a LN?
whats up dude welcome to another bangin episode of ｄｊｔ～積極的に出来ない者たちの日々にようこそ～
今週の放送をこんな風にやろう
下の文では自分自身を見つめ直せ
「何も知らずに生きていて申し訳ありません」
お前はそうだろ
自分に答えることが一番大切なのだ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xEihW4oxuM
>>139471148
5 years
>>139471148
If you buy a bitlaser, 1 day.
If you study the normal way it's not possible to learn Japanese.
can i learn to only read japanese?
i'm not really interested in understanding it spoken or being able to speak (spoken may be useful for untranslated shows, but it's not a big deal to me), but i'd like to be able to read and by extension type. especially since any speaking exercise or whatever would involve making sound, which i don't like doing because i'm living with parents.
i spend all day on the computer so i just want to read and maybe at some stage type. (i'm assuming writing may also come into it, i have no need to write in english let alone japanese but if it helps for exercises etc i can always do that too.)
but my impression is that most guides are probably oriented to people who want a rounded understanding of the language instead of someone basically wanting to be deaf.
it's a stupid question i know.
>>139471754
Do you not subvocalize at all?
>>139471754
DJT mostly focuses on reading / listening / massive amounts of input before doing output, so yeah, should be fine. Doing the other stuff just helps strengthen your knowledge. Should probably at least echo when doing vocab alone or something so your gaijin pronunciation isn't as bad when you do eventually want to start speaking.
>>139471754
That's what you'll mostly be able to do before you can speak. It's probably better not to learn the language in general, save your time.
おはようおにいちゃん
おにいちゃんのおにいちゃんは
やっぱりおにいちゃん
>>139471919
Ohayou imouto san, I'm your biggest fan.
>>139471963
おっと
あのにのうそす大好き！
Daily reminder that no matter how hard you study, you're not even biting the doorknob.
>>139472126
bite my doorknob dude
>>139472373
These memes are too old for you, friend.
>>139472659
Not even shining the bitlaser on the doorknob
>>139472659
old or gay same thing i guess
Is there a decent guide to setting up IMEs? I just learned that alt+shift switches the languages and alt+Caps Lock switches input modes but when I looked at the properties it feels like I'm learning runes all over again
>>139473118
yeah like google or some shit
>>139473118
basically just what you listed plus some of the f keys while the ime is active
アノンくん
今、何読んでいるの？
>Layout is back to normal
Finally.
>>139473679
赤髪の白雪姫
このレイアウトがつまんない
>>139473118
remember to use alt + `
>>139473994
お前のカキコのように
>>139473679
がっこうぐらし。 スティーブ さんは？
>>139471754
yes. i think many people here are doing the same thing, learning without caring much about speaking. of course in terms of study there's not much difference apart from not practicing speaking itself. actually /djt/'s resources are heavily biased towards learning to read.
>>139473761
say what you will about my humour, im glad we dont have to deal with shit like this for another year again.
>>139474110
Eh, there's never anything really funny about it - it's just an annoyance.
>April 1st? Well that's Tokyo Toshokan down for the day.
>>139473679
Nothing, but I know I'm not fluent yet (or even level to read things I want like Muramasa) so I really have to. Send help
http://www.surfmusic.de/country/japan.html
Nice listening practice if you're like me and scared of talking to people
I'm listening to http://877.fm/player.php now
>>139474083
「がっこうぐらし」はあんまり文字がないだよな。言葉よりアクション的な漫画だけどね。昨日は「アリア」の１巻一時間内にで読破したからとても嬉しいんだ。こんばんは２巻か別のＬＮか読む予定だ。
出涸らし
Rare kanji for you rare kanji tetsus
I saw this in an eroge review. Truly the realms for finding new kanji are infinite.
>tfw can read kana now fluidly
Thanks Yotsuba-chan.
>>139473679
Some easy laid back Oz VN.
>>139473118
>what is google
Do japs really write all their dates in heisei years? I can't imagine that they actually do that especially in business contexts
>>139474646
They do both. Julian years are more common overall though. Usually they list both.
Okay I learned Kana, do I start learning radicals now, and then Kanji and then Grammar, or should I start grinding radicals while learning grammar too? Also what is a good way to make sure I won't forget Kana, should I just keep repping the flashcards, or are there reading resources/exercises I can do with just that?
>>139474282
Didn't know 煉瓦 or 坂 so my first impression was negative.
Anyway, good job finding a VN on mobile. I can never find any, even mediocre ones to kill time.
>>139474755
>>139474755
what is g
>>139474208
文字通りゲロ
>>139474646
whats your issue with heisei
>>139474755
またゲロ
>>139474710
Make sure to keep asking pointless questions before doing anything. making any irrelevant decision before asking here first could result in developing critical thinking skills
>>139474755
This shit is so fucking unreal. As if it's in their DNA to brown nose.
>>139474799
Thank you senpai.
>>139474812
hes actually calling him a stupid fag gaijin
>>139474755
anime and chill?
>>139474812
kekoslovakia
>>139474710
obviously it'll be better to learn grammar and radicals. As long as you aren't learning grammar in romaji, you'll naturally get the hang of it and only forget less frequently used characters, in which case, just look refresh yourself and you'll eventually never forget
>>139474755
あなたの母
>>139474812
大人 - adult
大人しい - gentle, quiet, subdued
>>139474755
>>139474979
俺 - I / me
俺しい - huge dick
>>139474979
糸 string
糸しい love
>>139474912
No he's not.
>>139475167
your loss
>>139475232
ur bad
>>139474710
>Also what is a good way to make sure I won't forget Kana, should I just keep repping the flashcards
Yes, the purest reason to use SRS flashcards is to not forget things you already learned, and they're the very least time consuming thing for doing so.
>Okay I learned Kana, do I start learning radicals now, and then Kanji and then Grammar
Grammar now. Immediately. You can do radicals if you want, they don't take long. Kanji study is something you have to seriously consider for yourself because it can go either way. Eventually you want to start memorizing words and reading (at the same time). You should know the very most common 50-100 words as a result of taking your grammar guide.
>>139475242
y-you too
DJT is like mugen kurikaesu
Same questions. Same answers.
Someone wake me up inside
What COMPELLING CONTENT are you currently engaging in?
>>139474755
Every time.
上手かなー？
とても上手です！
>>139474755
i dont get it
>>139475366
what did he mean by this?
>>139475403
He essentially only said "sup" and the other dude is sucking his dick
>>139475321
Take the name off Steven
>>139475366
>tfw japanese native sends you message in all hiragana with spaces
>>139475470
he wasn't even the one to reach out
>>139475340
>see translation thread
>dude is wrong so often
I can't bear to witness this
>>139455350
pretty sure he got every single line in this page wrong, and there's only one panel with speech
>>139475403
He replied to こんにいちは with こんにいちは and got complimented on his Japanese ability
>>139475551
すげええええええ
>>139475403
>Read it, it all makes sense (even more so if anon sent a full reply to an earlier message and this is picking up the conversation)
>See anons go all crazy over it
>Start doubting myself
G-guess I'll go back to my anki safety blanket.
http://tatoeba.org/eng/user/profile/Polygot99
Why didn't you learn Japanese as your eighth language and move on to learn 42 subsequent ones?
>>139475474
>tfw try to talk to people on chatpad.jp
>tell them you're gaijin because too autistic to have a normal conversation
>they think you're a Japanese bullshitting with them because they think gaijins can't use kanji
>leaves
>>139475702
素晴らしいねぇぇぇ
>>139475702
I guess I just lack that special kind of autism.
>>139475702
>6 to 10 months to become fluent. (8 hr day/5 day week studies)
I could do that if I didn't have crippling depression.
>>139475909
I doubt it
Shouldn't this be more along the lines of "Good job understanding the answer", or can 分かる also mean something like realizing an answer?
Which one should I pick?
おにいちゃん
なっとうたべよ
ひきわりでも小粒でもなくて大粒のやつ
>>139476328
nato always makes me think of hentai, sucks
>>139476319
tell sensei
>>139476426
>"tell sensei"
>言われた
Anon, I...
>>139476452
>言われた
tell senseithis is the result of not learning grammar
>>139476426
Isn't it "Because sensei was told"
>>139476566
Not him but why is this not "because I was told by sensei"
>>139476319
The fuck does the top one say? I want us to fly away?
>>139476617
に indicates doing of passive action
>>139476623
You are correct
>>139476640
Look up the game, its about flying.
>>139476617
passive, fampei
>>139476426
>>139476566
>>139476617
言われる
What is passive form
>>139476623
せいかいです
>>139476640
"Because I wanted you to be able to fly"
>>139476698
>doing of
I mean doer
>>139476623
isn't it "Because I said to sensei..."?
>>139476742
に indicates doer of passive action
Has nobody here read tae kim? Why does nobody know what the passive form is? It's common as fuck too. Is this thread full of beginners or something?
>>139476742
What the verb is doing controls the meanings of particles.
>Xでできている
Made of X
>XにV-passive
Ved by X
>>139476784
There's like 2-3 people getting it wrong and 2-3 explaining what they misunderstood, whats your problem? 33 whole people in the thread minimum.
>>139476784
I was the one who said tell sensei, and then later said this was the result of not learning grammar
no reagrets
>>139476319
>actual nip discussion came out of this post
Please do this more often.
>>139476895
I still don't know which one to pick though
>>139476895
>>139476214
Speaking of tae kim, is it necessary to read the complete guide? It seems like a (shorter) rearrangement of stuff in the grammar guide
>>139476784
I don't even know what passive form implies.
>>139476969
just buy the book
>>139476969
Nop
>>139476981
>Sensei told me
as opposed to
>I was told by Sensei
Passive^^
>>139476784
it's almost like there are people of varying experience with the language in the thread for learning of said language
>>139476981
The passive form IS USED pretty often in english. it's pretty hard for it to BE MISSED by you. Don't even bother googling it, it should BE UNDERSTOOD now.
>>139476777
>>139476808
thank you
>>139477046
got it, so passive form is when some words are in all caps and others are passively typed or written in lower case
>>139477046
I think I get it but I can't make sense of it.
>tfw feel like I've learned Japanese and just need to read/listen more to iron out fluency
Its a bad feeling because its hard to motivate self to study. I just want to do a 20,000 word anki deck and emerge fluent.
>>139477162
Are you English native? Passive isn't nearly as common in English as other languages so if you're unfamiliar with it you should probably re read the passive sections in Tae Kim and Dictionary of Japanese Grammar
>>139477215
I feel pretty lucky. In 8th grade those of us who didn't pay money for a field trip were gathered into one classroom and had to wait the whole day. The supervising teacher handed out a worksheet on passive voice and to this day that remains my only formal education on passive structures in language. Feels good to know missing out on a field trip benefited me years later.
![27646835-Closeup-portrait-of-dumb-clueless-young-man-arms-out-asking-why-what-s-the-problem-who-cares-so-what-Stock-Photo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6YnsUL6.jpg "27646835-Closeup-portrait-of-dumb-clueless-young-man-arms-out-asking-why-what-s-the-problem-who-cares-so-what-Stock-Photo[1].jpg")
>tfw you forgot all the counters
be honest, /djt/, do you know what the hell come after 6 [insert object here]?
>>139477215
I barely comprehend what you just posted. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>139477162
So in english grammar there's this concept called the subject
You might know about it, it's the noun that's responsible for having the verb attached to it
"The car turns on"
The car is the subject and it's directly experiencing the action "turn on"
With a transitive verb the subject performs an action on something else called the "direct object"
"The engine makes noise"
The engine is the subject, but it's performing the complicated action "make noise". In "make noise", "noise" is the direct object of "make".
Passive happens when what is normally the direct object is placed in the position of subject. English uses adjectival nouns, "be", and optionally "by" to form the passive.
"The food was eaten"
The food is the subject and "eaten" is the passive verb.
>>139477180
>Passive isn't nearly as common in English as other languages
Haha, "no"
>>139477275
I know the majority of kanji counters so when I see them I know'm pretty easily.
>>139477275
I suspended them all from core, any counting shit, that was such a pain, cruising through 2k a lot smoother this time around
>>139477285
Somehow this quoted the wrong second post.
>>139477215
>>139477285
>Passive isn't nearly as common in English as other languages
Literally is.
>>139477374
Anything you say dilettante.
>>139477275
I just always use 一つ、二つ, etc
>>139477285
So if we use the following sentence, "The engine roars", as an example, the engine would be the subject and 'roars' would be the passive verb? I've never really learned English 'properly' and as such these terms elude me.
>>139477275
I fucked up 8 but managed to go until 9, practice makes perfect.
>>139477462
No, "roars" there is intransitive. Passive means that another noun specifically did the action, even if they're not written.
/det/
>>139477489
I think I got it, thanks!
Need some help with tricky (to me) grammar, from the prologue to the first LOGH novel. The context is historical exposition, starting with a description of a kind of golden age and moving on to describe its flaws.
>とはいっても、幾つかの傷がなかったわけではない。まず宇宙海賊《スペース・パイレーツ》の存在があった、(...)。そのなかには自由を謳歌する義賊的な人物も存在しており、彼らと彼らを追う連邦軍との対決は立体ＴＶに多くの素材を提供したものである。
I can gather that there were some freedom-loving idealists among the space pirate population, that federation was fighting all pirates equally, and that someone was sponsoring a lot of content against someone else on the future-TV.
But who was sponsoring the content against whom? Was it the freedom-loving subset of the space pirates working against the federation? Was it the federation against all pirates?
>>139477610
I believe it's saying that the federation's "duels" with these pirates become fodder for TV shows.
>>139477566
Not the same guy but
>I was shot at
Here you are the subject, and something else verbed you (shot you). I don't know if that helped but showing an example like this makes it clear for me
>>139477566
not him but in is the sentence "I think I got it" passive? Because "I" would be the subject that gets acted upon, right?
>>139475702
This guy is God. (if he's actually fluent in all the languages he listed.)
>>139477654
Didn't even think about that.
Here's more context:
>しかし事実は散文的なものであり、海賊の大半は悪徳政治家や企業家と結託して不当な利益を貧る犯罪者グループ以上のものではなかった。とくに開拓星《フロンティア》の住人たちにとっては疫病神そのものといえた。海賊どもの出没する辺境航路には当然、就航する宇宙船が減り、物資の補給が滞るようになったし、手元に届いた物資はいたって高価だった。本来の経費に安全保障関係の費用の上積みが加えられたためである。この問題を過小評価するわけにはいかなかった。被害者たちの不満と不安が積み重なれば、それは連邦の統治能力に対する不信感に転じ、辺境開発への意欲を削ぐ結果を生むことは明白だったからである。
(from which I gather that the pirates were typically aligned with corrupt interests, and they were screwing the outer regions by raising the costs of business and reducing governance)
So I guess that would support your interpretation - Reality wasn't like you'd expect from those Robin Hood-esque TV shows, as the pirates mostly made things worse for everyone, including the little guy.
>>139477838
>if he's actually fluent in all the languages he listed.
Hint: he's not. Knowing 50 languages to fluency would put him in literally world-famous territory.
>>139477730
"i" is the one who thinks, "i" is the one who got it
not passive
Are you guys trolling now?
>>139477841
>彼らと彼らを追う連邦軍との対決は
(the showdowns between the federation and the pirates)
>立体ＴＶに
(for 3d television)
>多くの素材を提供した
(provided much material)
I don't see how it could be interpreted otherwise fampai
>>139477886
so passive would be "It was got" or "I think it was got" then?
>>139477947
"Gotten" would be used there. The participle adjective is not always the same as the past participle.
>>139477838
Did you read the description for each language? Wouldn't be surprised if the 99 in his name is his birth year and he's some autistic edge lord.
>>139478044
My first reaction was someone born in 1999 would still be in elementary school and thus wouldn't have the capacity to troll but fuck he could be 17
>>139477936
You know, この番組はご覧のスポンサーの提供で送りします, a sentence that has been drilled into my mind for years. I guess my mind locked on that sense of the word and tried to mold everything around that.
>>139475909
>having a depression
The fact that you can post here means that your life is better than most of the people in the world. Man up you fucking pussy.
>>139478084
>>having a depression
>not knowing english
>>139478136
>he doesnt own his one sub sea level valley
流石 pleb
>>139478073
That's very interesting. Ive had similar things happen to me when I encounter words with secondary meanings being used in real fiction after grinding their main meaning in anki.
>>139478044
>Polygot99
>it's actually polyglot
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyglotism
Well I think you're right.
I haven't learned a word of japanese in almost a year. How screwed am I? I could read manga without a dictionary before I stopped, now I have no idea what my level could be. I'm afraid to try. Any you you take an extended break before? How long did it take you to get back into the groove? Should I read something I've already read as a primer?
>>139478378
You don't need so much structure
Just try and read whatever
>>139478378
Honestly you just need to accept that you are objectively worse than you were before, and now is the time to just go at it and build yourself back up, higher than you were before. You may not be THAT much worse if you got a lot of exposure before you stopped.
>>139478225
>claims to be a polyglot
>can't even speak english
That's almost as bad as the Irish guy.
So, before I can start vocab hiragana is a must according to the guide, but why does it say katakana doesn't matter as much?
>>139475702
Dutch came after 2 made up languages and 2 dead ones. It must suck to have your tongue be that irrelevant.
>>139478890
it does just learn it
>>139478890
because katakana isn't used nearly as often and by the time it'll actually behoove you to know it, you'll know it
>>139478960
>because katakana isn't used nearly as often
I'll take deceptive statements for 500 alex
>>139478890
Does it? That's dumb, just learn ityou bitch.
>>139478890
Just learn katakanu well.
Help
>>139478084
>You're not allowed to have a mental disorder because starving children in Africa
>>139478995
how often will katakana be necessary to know when learning grammar?
>>139479172
more like normiesm
>>139479176
How often will learning katakana impede grammar study?
>>139478890
Literally everything is written in hiragana. Not literally everything is written in katakana. It's still mandatory to learn it, you can just do it slowly.
>the fuck you dont even have a simple hiragana resource or really fucking simple steps for beginners?
>like your entire fucking "guide" is just explaining shit, with nothing there.
>your fucking guide should be "start here- learn this chart before you do anything" and YOU SHOULD HAVE THE FUCKING CHART IN THE GUIDE OR A LINK TO IT
>it shouldnt be you fucking "OH UH... GO LOOK AROUND FOR A CHART"
>fucking useless
Comedic feedback. Wonder how guide-anon will respond to it.
>>139479242
I always wonder, do people who sperg out and rage thing someone's going to witness their behaviour and think WOW I FUCKED UP HARD THIS GUY'S PISSED! rather than the inevitable "wow what a manchild"
>>139479219
Thank you
>>139479207
when you spend time reinforcing your katakana rather than your grammar
it'll add up to nothing once you know the language but to say that katakana's not a lower priority is the true falsehood
>>139479242
whoever maintains the cor is too kind to tell him to shove it
The clipboard inserter addon has gone through the full review, so i guess it's okay to remove the furigana inserter link from the op guide.
>>139479322
>when you spend time reinforcing your katakana rather than your grammar
You'll finish katakana far before grammar, and both grammar and katakana are pure equal priority. Both are necessary.
>>139479395
You can be understood with awful grammar. You will just sound retarded and possibly cute
>>139479242
Where are you even seeing that?
>>139479395
Did I say it's unnecessary? It's not a priority to spend his time now stressing over his katakana if he doesn't get it, he should go over it and if he forgets along the way, he shouldn't worry to much about going back to it because it'll come naturally as he progresses his grammar, whereas the inverse is not true.
As I assume the guide said
>>139479516
>You can be understood with awful grammar. You will just sound retarded and possibly cute
There is not a scenario where someone saves enough time by skipping katakana that their grammar improves a noticeable amount.
Furthermore, at that point grammar would be even less of an issue than the simple fact that they won't know any words.
Furthermore x 2, at that level it will be extremely difficult to understand what other people are saying so a conversation in the first place is out of the question.
>>139479560
I really do not envision someone learning katakana naturally through grammar, at least any easier than they would through realkana. And anyway the time saved by skipping katakana isn't significant by any measure.
>>139479395
>read a VN with no katakana knowledge but real kana open on the side so you can look them up
>hardly slows you down because of how rare katakana is
>read a VN with shit grammar and a grammar guide open on the side
>pretty much impossible because just recognizing which aspect of grammar you're missing is hard
Katakana and grammar are not of equal importance. I know you're just trying to say katakana is also important, but it's not necessary to the extent everything else is.
>>139479351
Cool. Done.
>>139479658
Again, again, the time saved by skipping katakana isn't significant by any measure. They are of equal import precisely because Katakana takes a fraction of the time that grammar does. Obviously if there's a choice between fluency in grammar and knowing katakana, the former is preferably because it's much loftier and takes more time, but that's not the situation at all.
Furthermore katakana comes in strings of words. It makes no sense to read VNs and then everytime a katakana word comes up to use realkana to look up all 5-6 katakana because you don't know them. Learning them all before hand is far more logical and efficient. And not nearly as time consuming!
>>139479624
I have never once said to skip katakana
I'm saying it's not as important to devote his time to reviewing the katakana as it would be to move on because naturally it'll progress through the examples the guide will likely give to him (unless it's actually a shit guide that doesn't incorporate katakana at all, which I doubt)
>>139479885
The original post mentioned that the guide says its not so important to learn Katakana so thats what I was going off of.
Furthermore, reviewing katakana takes even LESS time than learning it (couple minutes on real kana to go through them all?) so your point seems even weaker to me now.
小さなミスを気にしない
学校で頑張り
生活を楽しみ
となりの人を敬い
せっかくのチャンスを逃さない
つっ走ってまっすぐへ行き
くやしい思いをしない
すばらしい成果を見せる
それは、俺の夢さ
>>139479242
Isn't guideman the only one with access to the feedback?
Did you write that yourself as a joke or something?
>リー： 私の家族は韓国にいますから、飛行機代がとても高いです。なので、今年は韓国に帰りません。
>Lee: My family is in Korea so the plane ticket is very expensive. Therefore, (I) will not go back home to Korea this year.
The fuck is the first sentence even supposed to mean? Like is his family so fucking huge that them buying tickets has reduced supply so much that the travel prices have went up?
>mfw when only been studying 10 months seriously
機 - machine
無機 - "non-machine" mechanical/inorganic
有機 - "has machine" biological/organic
Why, Japanese people?
>>139480229
>tfw 20 some days away from 2 year anniversary
>>139480229
Where is your face?
Who are you quoting?
>>139479953
I was just explaining why the guide likely places less emphasis on katakana
I'm not saying its not easy or quick to pick up, just that if you DON'T pick it up as easily as you think you should, you don't have to stress it and should simply keep going through the guide's curriculum because you will pick it up eventually
>>139480169
Are you autistic? Plane tickets are expensive, so he won't waste the money this year.
>>139480229
>日本人の友達って感じ
What did she mean by this
Also protip, if nips compliment your Japanese it means it's passable but not all that great. If you're actually fluent they get suspicious and you get 敬遠'd immediately.
>>139480169
Perhaps you should rethink the state of affairs the sentence describes.
Try this:
Lee is somewhere far aways from Korea, his family is in Korea, flying to Korea from far away is expensive, that's why the ticket is expensive because Lee's family is in Korea.
>>139480294
Yeah, you'll pick it up eventually, because you'll be reviewing it. And thus, katakana has the same importance in the beginning as anything else.
>>139480347
>My family is in Korea [which is why] the plane ticket is very expensive.
That's not what's written you dipshit.
>>139480347
This is on hellotalk though. Usually when they say it towards the start of the conversation I just ignore it.
Also
>日本人の友達って感じ
can be interpretted as "like talking to my japanese friends" as she was talking about my Japanese before
tfw learned katakana before everything else because fuckingvideo gamesare filled to the brim with them
>>139480362
See >>139479658
Katakana is not as important as grammar. Stop going autistic over that fact. Yeah, actually learning it is more time efficient than only looking it up when you need it, but that doesn't change the fucking fact that it's not as important as the other stuff.
>>139480427
Stop reading retarded translations and start reading the fucking Japanese.
>>139480568
That's what the Japanese says though.
>>139480169
から doesn't make sense to me here. Was this written by a native?
>>139480625
That post doesn't even address the point, anon.
>>139480362
I don't know what you're thinking is here but the logic is that rather than taking an extra 10 minutes to review the katakana before a lesson, I'm saying that just going through with the session normally and he'll be exposed to the katakana and eventually learning it without needing to take time out of his session to do it seperately.
I honestly don't know what else you're trying to argue, that he SHOULD take time out of his grammar studies to isolate the katakana learning? Because if so, I think we've reached an impass and I don't really care to do or look for a study to prove which of us is right
>>139480687
Perspective. Perspective of entire language, grammar is more important. Perspective of a language learner starting out, both are of equal import. As described in the post.
>>139480675
That's the Tae Kim guide.
>>139480712
The time's going to be taken out whether it's studying before the lesson or whether it's having to stop the lesson midway to figure out what katakana are being used.
>>139480675
There's literally nothing wrong with the sentence. If you don't understand it, there's something wrong with YOU not the sentence.
>>139480875
Shut up stupid Korean shit, take your misunderstood grammar somewhere else.
we are the knights who say に
>>139480875
It's a logical non sequitir regardless of which language you're reading it in and you're wrong and a piece of shit for maintaining the hostile attitude despite the fact.
>>139480052
Not him, but guide-anon has access to edit it. He said he looks at the feedback page periodically, but not sure if he'll respond to feedback there (directly emailing him or putting a suggestion on the guide doc would probably get a faster response).
I can't really tell if that submission is a joke or not considering the things he's wanting are already in the guide. I'm guessing he didn't read the whole guide or something before sending it if it wasn't a joke.
>>139480965
You mean 二
>>139480675
His family is <from> and is in Korea, so the plane tickets are expensive.
>>139480763
you're assuming that he's going to retain very little of the katakana
in all likelihood, in the experience of everyone I've known, it's only ever a hand-full of characters that you can't remember and the amount of time it would take to reference a chart to look it up when he does forget is peanuts compared to reviewing it regardless of whether he's already got it locked down
plus, a common memorization protip is that erring reinforces learning better
>>139481073
>see as to why it is a non sequitir
Okay I did, then what?
>>139481129
Ebin.
>>139480169
Well, yeah. There are like 10 million Kims and 7 million Lees.
should i masturbate before or after reps?
it's 土曜日(i learned that yesterday) so i feel like i can masturbate freely at least
>>139480052
>Isn't guideman the only one with access to the feedback?
I have access, as does one other guy (and maybe more, but I've only confirmed the existence of one more person so far). I remember some more people being involved at the time, but I haven't kept track of that and I was just given access to it at some point by the aforementioned anon.
>>139479242
>your fucking guide should be "start here- learn this chart before you do anything" and YOU SHOULD HAVE THE FUCKING CHART IN THE GUIDE OR A LINK TO IT
>it shouldnt be you fucking "OH UH... GO LOOK AROUND FOR A CHART"
I'm not sure what this guy is trying to get at. There's a chart linked right there in the guide ("such as this one for example") and the linked wikipedia and tae kim articles both feature a chart of Hiragana and Katakana.
I try to make things straightforward, but I can't cure blindness.
>>139481031
I check the feedback page on a weekly basis. Like you said, the best way to get to me is indeed by sending me an email or just leaving a comment in the guide since google always informs when people leave one.
>>139481228
It could be worse. He could be Chin(ese).
>>139481254
Getting horny fills your brain with natural steroids to assist in your babymaking. You should be edging during your reps, with one hand on your dick and the other one doing anki, and cumming as a reward for doing all your reps.
>>139481254
True pros masturbate during their reps and time their orgasm to coincide with their last card for the day.
>>139481117
In that case he's already learned katakana. So there's no problem in the first place.
>>139481341
>>139481353
I guess that makes sense but I'm not really at a point where I feel sexual satisfaction from japanese study
>>139481426
>I'm not really at a point where I feel sexual satisfaction from japanese study
You can't learn Japanese.
>>139481479
;_;
>>139481353
Fuck. What`s that nip word for having a clear mind after an orgasm?
I forgot ;-;
>>139481516
賢者タイム
>>139481516
賢者タイム
>>139481254
Being horny makes diverts thoughts from whatever you're trying to focus towardssex, so doing it while horny is inefficient.
Jerking off results in a chemically induced high that makes you lazy as fuck and unwilling to do shit.
Go outside and puff a fag or have a drink of whatever instead.
>>139481675
>Go outside and puff a fag or have a drink of whatever instead.
Ironic normie posting is just normie posting
>>139481996
Your post is blogging too.
>Look at how I am not a part of society and abstain from the vices of the common man
>>139481996
>misunderstanding what a normie is
>thinking having carnal pleasures other than sexual makes one a normie
Epic insecurities mate :^)
>>139482099
Normalfaggotry is a state of mind. Desiring to be as far from a normalfag as possible is a form of conformity.
/dpt/
>>139482188
You reek of normalfag desperately trying to fit in.
>>139482540
I was making fun of the original guy though
>>139482585
Oh okay.
Post words that Edict doesn't cover.
I just found 残材 today when reading 星空のメモリア.
>Read any generic nukige
>Dozens of unfamiliar non-jouyou kanji
I actually like it
>>139482981
The jouyou list is only for kanji you're supposed to be able to write from memory, it doesn't even begin to cover half the kanji you'll actually be encountering while reading.
>>139482540
>/qa/summarized.jpg
>>139483093
/r9k/, /adv/ and /soc/ too. /fit/ since they got taken over by /r9k/ and trannies too I guess
Did you get any pet peeves from learning nip?
I can no longer stand it when people say random japanese words in english sentences, the biggest offender to this has got to be;
>"Notice me 先輩!"
>>139483521
>I've become jaded enough to get pissed off by casual silly banter
Ok.
>>139483521
It annoyed me before but it's even more annoying to me as time goes on.
