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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true

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djtの新タイトル:
積極的に出来ない者たちの日々にようこそ

まずは調子はどうだい
お前はまだ日本語分かってないですかい
ok ill say it in english. whats up dude
何年くらいここに居座ったんですかね

フラッシュカード勉強はどうだ? 何か出来ますか?
いや答えるな
もう決まってるから
djtの勉強方法(皮肉と言えるだろ)なんて不完全なんだよ

証拠は? このカキコ見ろ

結局何が分かるんですか?
何か勉強になりましたか?
多分無いね
そのなんでも無い生活に生きてる限り

今日も助けは来ない
ankiの書き込みに戻れ
そして踊れ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xEihW4oxuM
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>>139311112
i am ichiban
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Is "thanks nigga" too informal a translation for 恐縮です?
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>>139311112
how the fuck do i use jibun properly?

it can mean myself yourself me you i dont fucking get it
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What do you guys do to deal with burn out? I'm feeling it with the stuff I'm currently going through. I'm wondering whether I should go read some easier stuff for a while or focus on different aspects of the language like production and listening comprehension or just take break for a bit.
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>>139311522
Nice repost
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>>139311553
breaks are the first steps to quitting
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>>139311604
upvoted

[spoilers]I'm actually shit at moon though plz help[/spoiler]
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>>139311653
X's self. Fill in the blank for X.
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>>139311653
ill stop posting now
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>>139311452
There isn't much reason to prefer the old guide. Almost anyone who actually cared about the guide enough provided input and suggestions on the guide while it was being made anyways.
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>>139311452
心底なんでもない
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>>139311452
i dont give afuck about a guide

>>139311773
yea same dude
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>>139311520
it would be more appropriate for 恐縮の至りでございます
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Is "yay!" too informal a translation for 恐悦至極?
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>>139311452
Where's the "I have not read either guide" option?
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ok what is virtually the easiest way to learn kanji?
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>>139312142
You're better off just translating that as a bunch of pleasure-filled moans tbqh.
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>>139312232
download them to your brain like lain or some shit
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How am I supposed to learn kanji in the beginning? I'm a few days into anki and anything past the numbers just seems like memorizing shapes.
I can get meaning pretty fast but the readings are really difficult. Am I just supposed to hit again over and over until it clicks? Which I have no problem doing but with low new card number like 20 its taking me almost 2 hours to get through with reps.
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With all the shitty beginner questions flooding in in the recent weeks and the spammer admitting to flooding the threads with fake questions I'm really wary about answering any of them.
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>>139312372
thanks you fuck, that was really helpful
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>>139312653
yea well eat shit bitch
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Q: How to learn kanji
A: There are a variety of choices, you just have to fucking do something. If you just want to learn words, get a vocabulary recognition deck (that means the japanese word is on the front, and meaning is on the back). If you want to memorize radicals, but not kanji, get the Kangxi Radicals deck. If you want to memorize both, do RTK. If you want to memorize only kanji, grab the ichi.moe deck.
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This is it guys. I'm gonna start translating porn manga for practice. Hopefully those EOPs don't notice my shitty skill.

Wonder if I should upload them to sadpanda
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>>139312705
>Wonder if I should upload them to sadpanda
If you do this only pick things that have already been translated. Retranslation is a virtue, despite what possessive subversive people may claim.
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>>139312232
>>139312442
Read the guide. It pretty much says what I would be saying anyways except in more depth. Make up your own mind and try different shit out, if there were a definitive "best" or "easiest" way, the guide wouldn't be giving several options like that.
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おはようおにいちゃん

おにいちゃんはどうしておにいちゃん
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how to say "disappointed in you" in japanese?
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>>139312849
(^p^)
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Why do we shit on AJATT, it essentially follows the same ideals as we do
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>>139313241
Looks can be deceiving.
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>>139313442
kek
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>>139313442
now remove the spaces
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>>139313241
he's got a new donald trump sentence pack too! i know you guys wanna get at this
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矢張り
飽く迄も
我が儘
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>>139314194
飽く迄も took me a few seconds
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>>139314194
あくまでもは、かんじで書かないんじゃないかなあとおもうよ
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>>139314194
日本語マジぱねっす
てかソンケイ?みたいな感じ
ヤバス
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>>139313659
I thought khazumoto died.

I guess he finally ran out of money from his scam so he came back for more
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>tfw I've been in this thread long enough that some of the people whose questions I answered when they were beginning to read have probably since become confident enough to have had arguments with me
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Sometime ago, you guys shit on some dude for asking if 3 hours a day for 3 months would get him far into the language.
Isn't it possible though? 1 hour Anki + 2 hours reading a day for 3 months?
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>>139314456
Most arguments are between beginners and lower intermediates, so it wouldn't take too long to reach that point.
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>>139314456
2 months in still a shitty beginner got a dank 300 kanji under my belt with basic grammar just fucking end my life
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>>139314679
I wanted to know what VN this was from.
But instead of asking, I was able to find it by looking up 芙 with radical search and then searching for the character's name.
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>>139314679
>thanks fampai
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>>139314504
What does that even mean? What is "far" into the language?
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can someone recommend me some good japanese vloggers, preferably a cute girl who is dumb as a rock so I can still follow along
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>>139314358
「アトラク=ナクア」にあったよ
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>>139312705
>translation
>practice
Pick one.
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>>139314504
How do you expect to start doing 2 hours of reading your first day?

>>139314822
No 北s showing until now
>winning by that much
>going for a shitty ポン when you could have gone for the god hand

>>139314561
k
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>>139315102
yo is that seifuku baggy as fuck

lookin hella fubu over there
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>>139315169
>ポン
I mean チー fuck I haven't played majong in forever
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"※ジャンク品ではなく正常に動作します"

As it is not junk, it will work as normal?

I can't figure out why this ps3 on yahoo auctions is so cheap.
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>>139315284
yeah no clue dude probably stolen or need hentai money fast but you understood that right
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>>139315045
bernie sanders looks kind of weird in this picture
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>>139312705
I'm not you. But I wish I had better talent to translate.

Look at my hot garbo

http://piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/ro.Yi9oTALlBJh/latest

I really need to keep studying.
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>>139315102
いんぎんぶれいなんて
つかわないんじゃないかなあとおもったよ
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>>139314504
Depends on what you mean by "far." In short, no, 3 months is not long enough to be competent in the language. However, you don't need to be fully competent in order to begin enjoying media, as texthookers can bootstrap you into levels above your own. At any rate, it's foolish to try to rush yourself to achieve some (?) level in 3 months, because all that will happen is you'll burn yourself out before you even get to really enjoy the language.

But okay, what would you know after 3 months of 3 hours a day?

Let's do vocabulary first: it really depends on your speed, but let's say an hour means doing 35 new words a day, along with all of your reviews. After 90 days you'll have 3,150 cards in your deck.

Then, let's assume you don't start reading until you finish Tae Kim. So you spend two hours a day reading Tae Kim until you finish it. Let's say you'd finish it in about a week and a half, though again it would depend on your speed. Already then you know enough grammar to start reading, and I'll be generous and say you dive right into it, even though you only know 350 words.

Then, to continue your grammar education, let's say instead of doing 2 hours of reading a day, you do 1.5 hours of reading and 30 minutes of the DoJG deck. I'll make another assumption and say you do 7 new cards a day of the DoJG deck. For your grammar education, then, after three months, you'll have done all of Tae Kim and all three of the DoJG volumes.

(1/2)
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>>139314504
>>139315819
For the remaining time, 1.5 hours a day for the 80 days after you finish Tae Kim, you will read. It amounts to 120 hours of reading. How much would you have read in that time? Well, I don't know because it's subjective and it's not like I've ever seen people timing themselves.

Basically, then, after three months, you'll know 3,150 words, have read all of Tae Kim and DoJG, and have done 120 hours of reading. Altogether you'll have spent 270 hours studying Japanese.

This site lists approximate vocabulary counts and number of hours of study for different JLPT levels: http://www.tanos.co.uk/jlpt/aboutjlpt/. 3,150 pieces of vocabulary puts you close to but not quite N3. If you do finish all of Tae Kim and DoJG, your grammar knowledge would be somewhat advanced, however, you may not be able to fluently recognize the grammar constructions yet since you only have 3 months of reading under your belt. 270 hours is about N4 according to that site, though I think it’s quite possible they’ve overestimated how long it would take.

In short, if you trust the numbers on that site and for some reason care about the JLPT, you’d probably be between N4 and N3. But, I don’t know why’d you set some arbitrary limit like “I have to get to x limit in 3 months,” because Japanese isn’t something you learn in three months. It’s just isn’t. If you don’t intend to spend more than 3 months on the language you should probably just spend your time on something you’re more interested in.

(2/2)
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>>139315659
未だ肉体改造を続けられるエンジが、混濁した意識のまま呻き声を漏らす。
Angie let out moans from unconscious as her body continued to be remodelled.

like first line im already done

and this link was posted in /vg/ in october. you had all this time and your first line is shit like this i just dont know dude i dont know
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>>139315819
>>139315858
i dont have time to read these two really long posts wheres the part where hes supposed to learn japanese
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柏手
拍手
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>>139315876
>Like first line I'm already done.

Sweet. Though to my dismay I haven't been studying at all since the October that I created that file. I really do need to obviously. Since as far as my Tae Kim lessons have gone I'm only at state of beings. Ofcourse this file is not finalized in any way and I did this more as a "run before I can walk" experience.
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>>139316233
actually in all honesty if you were doing a tl for jast or mangagamer etc this would be perfectly acceptable
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>>139312909
hmm suprised no one answered me

i thought you guys would be excited to wave your "i know japanese" dicks at me but i guess i was wrong. you're all useless cunts and i will be paying all of your mothers a visit tonight.
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>>139316340
dang unexpected payoff from ignoring that one good shit
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>>139315659
Are you sure you didn't just throw those lines to google translate?
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>10k words in
>Nothing new seems to stick anymore
Please kill me, I cant do it
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>>139316391
jparser and a lot of dictionary. You make it seem like I have any actual vocabulary.
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If I want to say "That is my friend's car" do I use それは私の友達の車でありますwith "で" even though the sentence isn't indicating that the friend is using the car to go anywhere?
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>>139316625
>であります
軍人さん帰ってください。
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>>139316625
それは友達の車です

であります is saying something else entirely the way you have it
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>>139316812
>であります is saying something else entirely the way you have it
No it isn't, but I have no idea what textbook he's reading that would give him the idea that using であります is ever a good idea.
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なぜバカな言葉が多いか?

普通に話しても通じないから2ちゃんやここの言葉を訳しているからだろ、話してる連中も分かってないみたいだし、政治の話なんてする訳がない、ゲームはラスボスを倒して終わりです
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>>139311112
Are there hotkeys to switch between Kana on windows jpn input?
i've done it before but checking settings i dont see anything
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>>139317477
そうですか
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>>139317560
Ctrl/Alt+Caps Lock
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>>139317602
yeah thats why i couldnt find it
thanks anon
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>on my third attempt to learn
W-wish me luck!
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>>139316548
Find random LN/VN, perferably one that you keep hearing people talk about
Pull out that electronic dictionary program
Do that from begging to end.
Repeat with new material.
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>>139317775
speaking of those are there preferred texthookers like for VNs for manga?
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>>139317745
third time's a charm. がんばって
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>>139317853
KanjiTomo
It's an OCR program though, not texthooker
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How much reading did it take you to get good?
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>>139318085
Define "good"
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>put ad on japan-guide
>get 4 replies
>already ran out of ideas to talk about, don't message any of them back
I thought I'd at least last a couple rounds
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>>139318054
How is its recognition rate?
mostly 100% as long as its not weirdly scanned or handwriting
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what should a NEET like me write about on Lang-8?
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>>139318120
僕としゃべる
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>>139318120
This is why I don't bother with getting a language partner. I'm too socially retarded to maintain regular friendships or conversations. Maybe if I can find some turbonerd hikkineet who just wants to talk about eroge and anime and shit, but why the fuck would someone like that want to learn English.
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>>139317745
If you gave up twice before, what makes you think you won't give up again?
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>>139318172
>僕
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>>139317745
What causes people to give up? Once you get past the Tae Kim stage and are knee-deep in reading, there's not really any reason to give up. It's just read compelling content and maybe supplement it with a bit of anki.
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>>139318204
What you need to do is get good enough at Japanese that you can chat with the hikkineets in their online games and make friends
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>>139318209
First two times I was in school.
Graduated last year and I'm just working right now so my evenings are free.
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>>139318149
Pretty good as long as the text isn't too small
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>>139318171
Write about best girl like she's a real person.
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>>139318120
theres that one "pen-pal" app for people trying to learn other languages but all it seemed like was a sexting app for people speaking in broken languages
was fun for a day until i realized i cant hold a conversation in my own language let alone with some qt jpn highschooler
might try it again in a few months once i feel better making sentences
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>>139318235
Stop this meme.
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>>139318235
>俺としゃべるぞ
No thanks.
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>>139318120
This is why I will never learn to actually speak Japanese. I do nothing but go to class and then come home and then come home and sit on the internet. I have nothing to talk about.
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>>139317477
素直に言えばネットで書きたいことを書けばいい
大きな期待を持ってるとか知らねぇな

>>139318120
youre kind of a piece of shit dude

>>139318204
that goes double for you

>>139318333
honestly given how some of these guys would light up with joy if i handed them a plate of lettuce to eat, destroying 僕 in all forms is kind of alpha in some fucked up gaijin way and so i support it even if it only makes sense to gaijins
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>>139318204
I can't maintain conversations in English and am awkward as fuck. But in Japanese I can talk heaps and am not as reserved. Maybe it's the language barrier distance. Or maybe it's because I'm only talking to girls from another country so it doesn't matter
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>>139318171
Write essays on each of your waifus
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>>139318235
there is literally nothing wrong with using 僕.
hating on it is a /djt/ meme.
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>>139318520
>2012+4
>not using 我が
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>>139318520
In fact, anyone who uses 俺 is lowly scum with shit taste who only likes cowtits. All true patricians of vastly superior lolis use 僕.
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>>139318323
Name of the app?
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>>139318615
>All true patricians of vastly superior lolis use 僕.
Nah, they use おじさん
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>>139318568
Why use 我が when you can use 俺わ
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>>139318705
>not 折れわ
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>>139318520
我輩には「僕」が相応しくない。
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>>139318520
It is used when you're speaking to someone superior, if you want to be extra polite towards your conversation partner or if you're a beta cuck faggot bitch pussy.
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>>139318654
brokendreams.apk
dont remember check the google play store for pen pal
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きになったんだけど

きょうこそちゃんとおふろはいろ

きのうはいってないんじゃない
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>>139318842
腋臭あったほうが自然でいい
女ってのは本能で行動するものだ
腋臭の男らしい香りに引かれる
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>>139318842
かなのみをよみ、むずかしいです
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>>139318842
>はいろ
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If anki takes me 20 minutes to do now at 30 new cards a day. Will I be able to do 50 new and have anki be under 40 minutes do you think?
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DIdn't know that girl originates from porn
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>>139318568
>>139318615
>>139318754
>>139318789
this is what they actually believe because they never make it past the personal pronouns part of their textbook so they gotta talk about something

>>139318842
お風呂に入ることなんてなかったんだよ
なんてこった

>>139319110
did you think all the hentai porno jokes were just a joke
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>>139319085
I'd imagine it will probably take you around 40 minutes for reps at 50.

You could always try it out and if it takes too long just drop back to 30.
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>>139319230
Yeah I'll try it out.
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>>139319110
Her being from group rape mindbreak porn is the whole reason she was posted, Anon.
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>>139319314
The entire reason she was posted was due to the post and some autist thinking it would be fun to spam it everyday till it stuck, because mods never bother to moderate these threads and you can get away with retarded shit like that.
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こんにちは、この未来もないのダメ人間共め

今日も一日一緒に素晴らしくてくだらない雑談を楽しもうぜ
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>>139319464
Are you also mad at the OP picture for having "the pleasure of being cummed inside"?
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>>139319464
Due to the pose*
Cropped hentai is just a shitty meme by this point. Normalfags do it to be "hip".

>>139319494
「もない」ってなんなの関係を当てつける気がするの?

>>139319518
Fuck off and die, autist.
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>>139318397
jamal, i want to learn from you, but i'm afraid that your japanese sounds as retarded as your english.
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>>139318981
そうやって、歯も磨かないんじゃないの

はげのしそうのうろうは

にんげんとしてみれないわ

>>139319022
できるよがんばっておにいちゃん

>>139319126
まいにちはいってね
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>>139319595
>jamal
You called me jamal a few days ago. Is this the djt variant of "u mad?"?
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>>139319629
No, it's the DJT variant for you sounded like a retarded nigger.
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>>139319629
Why are you replying to him? He wasn't talking to you. He was talking to Jamal.

>>139319595
His Japanese isn't perfect but it's not cringe tier.
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>>139319629
i don't believe i was talking to you son why not have a seat unless your name actually is jamal in which case i apologize
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>>139319494
こんにちわ、おれ輪にほん

>>139319595
do you expect me to write differently just because of the language its in thats foolish

>>139319629
relax im the one he wants

>>139319643
isnt this ironic
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>>139319643
So the same thing.
How new are you?

>>139319659
>He was talking to Jamal.
The point is that retards use jamal as an insult to shitpost in response to anything they don't like.
There is no "jamal", it's just another stupid meme shitpost teenagers use to try as an attempt to discredit anything they don't like.

>>139319674
See above as you're doing it right now you fucking mong.
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>>139319706
>LITERALLY being the argumentative autist
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>>139319693
i just mean if i wanted to teach someone english i would hide every one of your posts from that person so as not to teach them bad habits

similarly i wonder if it would be a mistake for me to try to read your japanese or if it would just do more harm than good

>>139319706
>There is no "jamal"
lurk more instead of going out of your way to make yourself look ignorant because there is in fact a specific person who has earned the illustrious title of jamal
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>>139319748
Take a garbage bag, tie it around your head and breathe in till the bag filled your mouth.
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>>139319767
>there is in fact a specific person who has earned the illustrious title of jamal
No there isn't you dumb cunt.
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>>139319791
Only the argumentative autist has a reason to get this pissed off that other people are able to recognize a poster to some extent despite anonymity.
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>posts are required to be in japanese
>everyone gets practice opportunities
>retards who won't shut up about jamal or lasers get bored of having their posts deleted and leave forever
Tell me how this isn't a win-win.
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>>139319838
i've successfully pretended to be jamal before though, myself. i'm sure others have done it more successfully. actually, it's most likely there really is no jamal, no original even. it's probably a stand alone complex kind of thing (anime ref for you sticklers out there)
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>>139319917
turns out it aint that hard to talk like a retard and ignore punctuation if even your dumb ass can do it
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>>139319917
It's not easy to copy the original jamal's humor though. Plus, it's easy to identify that if somebody write more than 2 sentences in the post, it's probably not jamal.
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>>139319916
英語に言われてもな・・・
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>autists dragging dee jay tee below the bottom of the barrel
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>>139320030
>iphoneposters dragging dee jay tee below the bottom of the barrel
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おにいちゃんおにぎりたべよー

おかかのとふじっこのだよ
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>>139319916
You're going to correct people in japanese? Or answer beginners in japanese?
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>>139319828
there definitely is and he first started his bullshit a couple weeks ago posting 75 times per thread just like this

of course once he got a name people want to imitate him as he is what is permitted admired and even defended in this thread
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>>139319767
i mean like just do you dude its cool im just hangin out to fuck around with the ボンクラあほんだら crew

>>139319791
>>139319828
this is like poopy garbage man whats your issue

>>139319917
>>139319956
much love to the fans i see you

>>139320136
ごはんきらい
なまりたべたい

>>139320189
djt would disintegrate

>>139320259
im not a player i just post a lot
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>>139320259
maybe you should just chill out dude
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Anki down for anyone else?
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>>139320427
Yep down for me too.
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>>139320259
>he is what is permitted admired and even defended in this thread
People were initially against him but DJT as a whole grew to not give a shit about anything that would normally make it angry because literally anything is better than the Sakura autist.
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>>139319916
>>retards who won't shut up about lasers
>he hasn't seen the light
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>なまりたべたい

いっちょけんめいかんがえたけどわかんなかた
ごめんねおにいちゃん
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>>139319110
What the fuck
I can read all this shit. I really struggle when I read some manga about Yakuza or this small paperbacks for high school girls but this seems super easy. School related stories use easier words I guess. Makes sense since the plot is mostly limited to school and home activites whereas Yakuza stories are about 人身売買, 口径, 闇市場 and other words which I've never used in real life
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Some stupid cunt has completely defaced the guide. Is anyone around to fix it?
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>switched completely to mining deck
>now have a reason to push myself to read and fulfill my new card quota
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>>139320748
go file > make a copy. it'll remove all the comments and you'll have a nice clean guide
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>>139320794
"Make a copy" is greyed out.
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>>139320748
>>139320823
Just change the mode from "Suggesting" to "Viewing" and it will look fine.
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>>139320837
Ah, that's better. Cheers.
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>>139320748
Sorry about that, I saw mention of it yesterday but forgot about it again and didn't check it afterwards yesterday. I'll take of it once I'm back at my main rig.
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>>139320933
It's fine, setting it to "Viewing" mode seems to completely get rid of the graffiti so it's not the end of the world.

How come there's a new guide, anyway? I haven't been to these threads for a while.
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i've been doing core, studying grammar, doing the little reading i can (slowly going through よつばと! and other various little things). but i've been getting sort of tired of core. some words i find interesting and memorable on their own, but others are boring or not presented well, and combined with the fact that i didn't make the cards myself, they're basically contextless. i feel that it makes them unnecessarily difficult to memorize. i'm really not good at reading yet, really basic stuff i can read fine but anything above pretty damn basic and i have to slowly reference my grammar book and look words up and shit. i'm wondering how "safe" it would be to drop core in favor of doing lots of reading/listening and filling up my own mining deck.
i would probably make core not give any new cards and just continue to review it for a bit, while i add cards to a mining deck.
so, please tell me what you think about this kind of thing, and tell me about at what point you started using a mining deck, and if you dropped core, everything related to that.

>>139320766
oh, nice timing
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>>139320985
The old guide was quite long winded, didn't really tell people that much about what to actually do (hence the "I read up to here..." Part in the new guide) and wasn't very balanced when it came to learning Kanji.

The new guide aims to fix these things and be a bit more accessible to newcomers. The same could probably have been achieved by overworking the old guide, but I found that this would be more work and yield less good results than building a new one from ground up, based on the old guide with lots of community input.

On that note, feel free to leave some feedback either in the feedback form, the guide or right here.
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>>139320650
せつめいをうければ いみをこわすことになる
ぼくもごめん

do this >>139320837 but not before you go to the important link i left there

>>139321084
feedback put my edits into the guide as is thank you
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>>139321048
I'm pretty sure virtually everyone here would agree that's the best course of action. Core should mostly be used as a "I didn't mine very many cards today so I'm going to do a few new cards from core to make up for it" sort of thing.
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>>139321084
>and wasn't very balanced when it came to learning Kanji.
I disagree, I feel the new guide is far too biased against learning kanji through vocab, which is generally agreed to be the more efficient approach. Normally people only recommend specialised kanji study for those with circumstances that require them to learn to handwrite, or those who for some reason especially struggle with learning kanji. In most cases pure vocab study is superior, and the new guide doesn't reflect this.
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>>139321201
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>>139321158
If you have some suggestion as to how to make that section more bslanced, I'd be very glad to receive it.

Personally, I've had great experiences with learning kanji individually (my vocab retention went up to almost 95%) hence I don't believe that learning through vocab is necessarily superior. They're both valid methods and the learner should decide for himself which method to use.

I am aware of the fact that a certain bias may reflect in that section due to my personal experience on the matter. Hence, I'm especially glad about suggestions, comments and feedback on that section since the goal for it is to not vontain a bias towards any of the methods presented.
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>>139321117
alright, thanks.
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>>139319916
Talking in incorrect japanese to people who can't correct your mistakes is a bad idea, Anon.
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ワンクッション
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>>139321352
That's not bad. I live in Osaka and some of my friends are brazillian who don't speak English but Japanese (better than me). It's helpful because you have to think how do you use your Japanese. Even when I speak with my Japanese friends they don't often correct me because it's bad for the communication when people tell you in every second sentence what might be better. And it's more fun to talk freely instead of getting teached to use に in this sentence instead of を. My opinion doe, maybe some other /a/nons prefer to get tought how to speak
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>>139321289
I suggest you relook over the section, as it's clearly exceedingly biased.

- length: the vocab section is shorter than the others and less detailed.
- positivity: the kanji sections contain positive phrases like "will be a great help in learning kanji", while the vocab section contains negative phrases like "The drawback to this method", "while not as strong as".
- focus: while the kanji sections maintain focus on their topic, the vocab section deviates into off-topic, out of place radical discussion.
- ordering: learning through vocab is placed at the end.
- implication of superiority: the summary literally says kanji study gives "in return for better retention later.", clearly attempting to imply kanji study is in the long term superior, when that is patently untrue for most people, although not all.
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>>139321410
this is actually a good ass post

no one here wants to use japanese though they just want to read it

so i guess why it would end up being a bad idea is theres 3 or 4 posters max that could even keep any kind of a convo going and everything else would be complete white (笑) noise
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>doing my reps
>keep being confused between the different "last night/evening/tonight" words
>look them up in jisho
>apparently it doesn't exist

Why does 昨夜 not show up in Jisho?
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>>139321624
because you touch yourself at night
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>>139321624
>Other forms
>夕 【ゆうべ】、昨夜 【ゆうべ】、夕 【ゆう】、昨夜 【さくや】
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>>139321624
did you burn your eyes out with your bit laser
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>>139321624
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>主要組織適合遺伝子複合体
>複合体
At first it looks hard to read but actually this is really easy to read. All the Kanji are level 5, 4 and 3 aren't they?
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>>139321473
Cheers, Thanks for the feedback.
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Dekinai famalama, just dekinai
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fuck my life
https://www.aoi-zemi.com/live/3
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>>139321779
whats cool is i would have no guess at what that is if had only the english term to go off of

kanji makes life easier boys i hope everyone in djt land is working hard
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できるんだよ

いつもただしくまちがってできてるんだよ
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>>139321840
shit they started doing kanji writing exercises now
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I just wanna do anki forever and never touch grammar
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>>139322277
grammar is hella fun though
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>>139322277
Isn't that how it's always done? Learning grammar is pretty much useless.
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>>139321840
What is this?
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>>139322277

It's not like anki and grammar are mutually exclusive things.
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>>139322367
fair enough, let me rephrase, I just wanna do vocab forever and never touch grammar
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>>139321840
>二十四節気

fuckkkkk
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>>139322350
国語
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>>139322401
You don't really have to, seriously. You can just understand everything if you know enough vocabs.
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>>139322307
>>139322401
それです無い見たい貴方必要文法か何でも。
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>>139322277
If you learn enough vocabulary you can pick everything up from context anyway so it's not a bad idea
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>>139322433
AKAにっぽんごですだよ?
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>>139322443
Not really, you can get a general sense for what the sentence is about but most cases you wont know what it means
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>>139322401

When it comes down to it those two things aren't that different, both are just kana and kanji used to express specific concepts. Grammar's just more abstract and translates (even) less directly.
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Can a Japanese Nihonjin be named 蟻我東?
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ある意味riotersみたいな連中と真面な会話ができるか?と言って自覚すら無いのが現実だしな雑談より風呂桶のゾンビと同じハートも脳も無いDJTお前たちは無理だ、レタスは害虫も喰うのだぞ
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>>139322572
>Japanese Nihonjin
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>>139322572
sure, why not
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>>139322704
>凸
This killed me
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>猫騙し

Explain that to me.
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>>139322704
>頑張郎
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>>139322804
ググレカス
>立合いと同時に相手力士の目の前に両手を突き出して掌を合わせて叩くもので、相手の目をつぶらせることを目的とする奇襲戦法の一つ。相手に隙を作り、有利な体勢を作るために使われる。普通の立合いではかなわないような、はるかに強い相手に対する一発勝負に使われるが、失敗すると一気に持って行かれてしまう可能性がある。
>なお、これ自体はあくまで相撲の戦法の一つで、決まり手とはならない。万一、相手力士がこれにびっくりしたあまり倒れてしまっても、“決まり手”は「つきひざ」や「腰砕け」になる
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>>139322863
Explain that to me in English.
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>>139322704
権兵衛は読めるから
あまり痛くない気がする

愛子は親が痛い
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>>139322882
ナイス餌やで
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>>139322804

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nekodamashi
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>I was only 12 years old
>I loved Anki so much, I had all the Cores and Heisig decks
>I pray to Anki every night before bed, thanking him for the life I’ve been given
>”Anki is love" I say; “Anki is life”
>My dad hears me and calls me a weeaboo
>I know he was just jealous of my devotion for Anki
>I called him a gaijin
>He talks smack about my waifu and sends me to go to sleep
>I’m crying now, and my waifu is sad
>I lay in bed and it’s really cold
>Suddenly, a warmth is moving towards me
>It’s Anki-sama
>I am so happy
>He whispers into my ear “It’s Anki time”
>He grabs me with his powerful reviews and puts me down onto my hands and knees
>I’m ready
>I open Anki
>I do all of my reviews
>It’s so boring but I do it for Anki
>I can feel my brain burning as my eyes start to water
>I push against the reviews
>I want to please Anki
>He roars in a phone notification as he fills my brain with nihongo
>My dad walks in
>Anki looks him straight in the eyes and says “You’ve still got another 300 reviews”
>Anki leaves through my window
>Anki is love. Anki is life.
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>>139323130
>this is what too many reps does to you
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Why aren't you using superior language learning platforms?
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>>139323174
俺の日本語はもうすばらしいだから。
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>>139323209
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>>139323209
>すばらしいだから
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>>139323288
すごい
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Should I break up phrases like 冥土の土産 into components before adding them to my mining deck?
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>>139323590
>breaking up idioms and collocations
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>>139323590

If you can't figure out the meaning of the phrase from its components automatically then you should add the whole thing.

If you don't know the components themselves, and they're something that are used in contexts other than the specific saying in question, then you should obviously add those separately as well.
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二進も三進も行かない
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>>139322572
ありが・あがり?
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四の五の言わず
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>>139323777
この物は猫を知らぬ。
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>>139323864
ありが・とう
It's like ありがとう:arigatou (thanks in Japanese)
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>>139323899
凄い
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Is there a Tae Kim of archaic Japanese?
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>>139323923
凄以ですか?猫之素晴等しい答えだよ。
俺様之猫之名前は「私は」。
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>>139323956
just watch the stream >>139321840
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おやすみおにいちゃん

きっとまたゆめであえるね
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>>139311553
As long as you keep exposing yourself to the language via reading and listening you'll be fine no matter what. No need to sweat anything more specific than that (except, dont read literal 0-5 yr old childrens books).
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>>139325064
mfw other people are posting the meme comic I forced
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>>139325064
Why do you use these vile pictures to avatarfag?
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財布と相談する
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>>139325108
They're not posted by a single person anon.
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>>139319110
>に楽してもらう
The translated one says she'll make her mother proud but this says she'll make life easier for her mom
way to go translator
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Tell it to me straight, how bad is taking about 2 minutes to fill this out?

http://www.csus.edu/indiv/s/sheaa/projects/genki/hiragana-timer.html
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>>139323956
imabi
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>>139325193
It obviously means she's going to murder her mother, like in 楽にしてやる
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>>139325100
I'm a big fan of webcomics in general and I read Existential Comics for a long time before you posted them, though I did post it here in honour of your shitposting
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