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>Gohan tells Videl that he needs to go train to "find himself", as well as to get stronger so that when the time comes, he can protect Videl and Pan
>Gohan trains with Beerus without telling Goku
>Begs that Goku never find out
>During his training, he gets a scar and grows a manly beard
>Gohan makes a surprise return, looking like a total badass
>Goku is playfully worried that Gohan got stronger than Goku
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kek, you gohanfags get more and more delusional
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>>139305014

You DBS fags get more and more delusional.
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Stop. I'm even a Gohan fag and I know he'll not be significant. You just disappoint yourself with this.
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>>139304913
>Gohan tells Videl that he needs to go train to "find himself"
FUUCKING KEK
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Who the fuck is Gohan?
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What might actually happen: Gohan will get a free powerup, he'll be very strong and he'll assist fighting the big bad. He's gonna fuck up one way or another, get his ass beat. Goku or Vegeta will defeat the big bad.

Cue peacetime, Gohan goes back to his books and becomes a weakling again.
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>>139304913
I'd honestly prefer that he died. He deserves a ticket directly out of this shitty tagged on AU series that no one wanted.
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>>139306520
He doesn't deserve shit.
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>>139306520
This.
Gohan deserved better.
Fuck Superfags, they are more obnoxious than GTfags.
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>>139306971
>Gohan deserved better.
To deserve something you have to earn something. He didn't earn shit by resting on his laurels after Cell and never bothering to get his shit together again.
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Ignoring the time between DBZ and DBS. Goku has been training in DBS for at least 4 years, if not longer. Gohan is so behind only the mightiest asspull will get him to be relevant
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>>139307040
That's because Toriyama is a shitty writter who didn't know what to do with Gohan. Even fanfiction writers did a better job than him.
Gohan's character and potential is inherently superior to Goku/Vegeta.
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>>139307159
And? He still squandered that potential and even after Cell and Buu he just fucks off and decides to leave everything to his father.

What is even your point? Gohan is written to be naively pacifistic and complacent. You may not like it, but he doesn't "deserve" some completely different characterization Gohan fans seem to have fallen in love with.
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>>139306520
>>139307159
I have the most nostalgia for Dragonball but seriously it was never that good in terms of writing. There was fun adventures and then there's just big battles. It was never a well-written masterpiece and Dragonball Super is just so boring story wise and even in visuals.

Maybe someday Toriyama will suddenly get really good and come up with 10/10 amazing chapters but I doubt it
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>no h doujin of videl cheating on gohan
>no final page as gohan finding out the baby is not his because the saiyan god ritual doesn't work

there's a fucking goldmine here how come they haven't thought about it
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>>139307395
Because, let's be honest, Gohan may be weak relative to the rest of the cast at this point, but he's still far more jacked than any faceless old man, and Videl herself could kick most of their asses.
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>>139307155
Freeza trained for 4 months and very nearly caught up to however many years of a head start Goku had.

Toriyama can pull any ass he wants.

I doubt it'd be Gohan's though.
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>>139307583
doesn't have to be rape or gohan watching, she just has an affair with someone else
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>>139307583
I think Gohan is still like the third strongest of earth inhabitants.
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>>139304913
>Implying Gohan's gonna give up on his dream and go back to being a fighter

NO. Gohan's dream was to become a scholar since episode fucking ONE of DBZ. There's literally no need right now for him to fight, when his dad and Vegeta can benchpress a planet (and then some).

The way he will contribute is by becoming a scientist. This results in him writing "Groundbreaking Science"...and thanks to Gohan, knowledge of Ki will be known throughout the Earth. This achievement is FAR more important than Gohan training and just being another fighter.

You take that away from Gohan, you take away his character coming full circle. He's going to train with Piccolo just to stay in shape, but ultimately he will become the famous scientist he's meant to be.

This is the canon end-path for Gohan that Toriyama already wrote in DBO.
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>>139307943
>The way he will contribute is by becoming a scientist.

Just like his grandpa.
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>>139308072
Wasn't that a dub error?
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>>139307943
But Bulma already does the science stuff.
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Give up.
Seriously, just fucking give up at this point.
I've been a Gohan fan since DBZ was being dubbed by Ocean, and by now, I've just given up.

In this over-the-hill era of Dragonball, everyone is reduced to their most basic points, and as we've seen, Gohan's been turned into some weird-kid adult version of himself. He's got no agency and relies on PIccolo/Goku to get anything done, is stronger than the rest of the helpless gang, but just strong enough to show that the new badguys are really tough. He's basically worse off than when he was a kid. Sheesh, even Gohan back then would put off studying to go on an adventure in space.

The ultimate reality of the situation is that nobody knows what to do with Gohan, particularly because he's Goku's son. Long past are the days were there might be some idea of Gohan surpassing his father, and we've seen that we're not having that shit. If not at Buu, then when else? We can't have him be on the same standing of Goku and Vegeta's Battle Buddy Power Hour, because fighting and good food are fun, and fuck if we even know what to do with those to other than punch people and underestimate everyone and learn the same lessons again and again and again. It's ridiculous.

But my issue isn't that Gohan isn't the strongest, or HARDCORE SSJ2 WARRIOR, I just want him to do SOMETHING. Shit, my favorite version of the character is the one where he gets killed.
I'd be content if he were teaching class in space and doing Saiyaman shit every now and then, but no. Not even Gohan can escape the jobber's box. In another show, I'd half expect Gohan to be the reserve or something would happen on Earth for him to do, but I know better than that. It's basically the easier way of doing what they're doing with Mr. Buu, an series of excuses for why he's not doing anything.

Trust me, the sooner you give up hope, the easier it'll be.
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>>139308168
Yeah
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>>139308169
But Bulma doesn't know anything about Ki.

Gohan will pass Ki knowledge to everyone, and do Sciency Ki stuff. Bulma can't.
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>>139307943
You know goddamn well known of that shit is going to be relevant to the series.

The entire series (now) revolves around going to places and finding people to punch in the face. Either you're fighting, you're jobbing and begging Goku (and now Vegeta!) to save the day, or you're doing a support role like Dende or Bulma.

You know goddamn well that Gohan isn't doing anything other than getting his ass beat.
I don't know why Superfriends are so insistent on "this slice of life episode will make up for these characters being without any strength, agency or ability to effect the plot in anyway!"
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When Vegeta said Gohan had the highest latent power, was that only among people other than himself and Goku?
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>>139309381
Including Goku and Vegeta.
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>>139304913
>Gohan gets stronger than everyone
>New villain emerges and almost kills Gohan
>Goku and Vegeta power up
>Goku kills the new villain
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>>139304913
>goes on to job harder than ever before
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>>139308168
The ocean dub is canon
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Why doesn't Gohan want to learn about anything from Jaco, there is a whole damn universe out there of things unknown to earth people.
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>>139304913
You're funny, OP
Go on, keep going
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>>139309613
Gohan's new training amounts to jogging, it is enough to keep you from going into negative stats with a little change of positive growth.
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>>139304913
gohan will never come back
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>>139307943
Ki isn't a secret, it's just that no one cares about it but immortal hermits and martial arts enthusiasts. Muten Roshi and the Kamehameha are famous, a book about ki isn't going to revolutionize everything.

Plus Gohan going through so much trouble becoming a scholar just to write down shit Mutaito knew centuries ago is so lame. Let him be a real scientist that makes actual discoveries. I hate that shitty MMO's backstory so much.
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>>139307943
>This achievement is FAR more important than Gohan training and just being another fighter.
Not really, if Dragon Ball has taught us anything, it's that six billion shitters can't beat the big bad. So what if earthlings can now use ki? 1 single top tier fighter is still better than the lot of them put together.
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>>139307155

Gohan's had his "potential unlocked" like seventy times.

A seventy-first isn't exactly going to damage his character very much.
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>>139310297
>I hate that shitty MMO's backstory so much.
But Goku and Vegeta die by supernova because they didn't want to get old.

What better way to kill them off?
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>>139310496
>So what if earthlings can now use ki?
Hmmm no cars or airplanes...no weapons of mass destruction...iphones that run on ki....doctors using ki instead of scalpels...construction workers using destructo disks
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>>139310665
>construction workers using destructo disks
That will be Gohan's legacy
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>>139310297
>139310297
oh, and this is just me spit balling here.

or.

He could actually write down his stories, and his fathers stories, and use actual proof that, well, there is a kami, king kai, super kai, supreme kai and all sorts of crazy buttfucking shit.

or that aliens are real or other planets are real, or that whatever.

nope, Gohan=stupid.
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>>139310549
I hate how everything after the manga elevates Vegeta into this supreme deuteragonist when really he's just another one of the many strong people that Goku fought once. Goku and Vegeta get their epic homoerotic double suicide ending, while Buu literally masturbates until he kills himself. Is Uub even mentioned in Dragon Ball Online?
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Gohan needs to train harder than anyone else, make a badass return that makes even Vegeta blush, then job so hard it makes Yamcha respectable.
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>>139310665
>Hmmm no cars or airplanes
The Z-fighters still use cars and airplaines.
>iphones that run on ki
That's kind of fucking retarded, why would I want to hamster wheel my home appliances?
>doctors using ki instead of scalpels
That doesn't really seem much safer to be honest. It seems a lot more dangerous because the doctor has to power his own laser cutter instead of concentrating on the task at hand.
>construction workers using destructo disks
Cool, I suppose blue collar labor will get easier.
Go, Gohan!
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>>139307159
>Toriyama is a shitty writer

And that is why Gohan is a shitty character I am glad that you admit it.
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>>139310769
>Is Uub even mentioned in Dragon Ball Online?
I don't think so.

But Launch was
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Post "Dragon Ball" things that don't suck:

1) Female Majins
2) Beerus and Whis

That's it.
Vados is hot though.
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>>139311611
Bulma is still sexy
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>>139311611
Vados voice makes me hard
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>>139307943
>This is the canon end-path for Gohan that Toriyama already wrote in DBO.
full context/source please
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>>139312196
>not Dende's
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>>139312252
Backstory to that trashy Dragon Ball MMO. It's not really ironclad canon.
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>>139312252
>After the demise of his father, Gohan reflects on the power he wields and so he devoted himself to scholarly research on the source of that strength, ki. Gohan begins researching the martial arts of the past, organizing them in his book Groundbreaking Science in Age 804. The book quietly gains popularity and one of the articles, "Katchin Can Be Cut!", has an immense influence in the birth of the Swordsman class, as it leads to the creation of Trunks and Goten's Kikoukenjutsu Sword School in the year following the book's release. It also leads to Krillin and Tien Shinhan starting up their own training schools in Age 821, the New Turtle School and the New Crane School respectively. As a result, by Age 1000, many Earthlings have taken up advance martial arts and understand ki control.


Its like my fanfictions!
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>>139312338
>Katchin Can Be Cut!
How would he know, he failed pretty hard.
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Didn't the Dragon Ball Universe get broken when they introduced Super Saiyan Gods?
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>>139312338
>Goku kills himself at age 60
>Goten and Trunks start a sword fighting school for no reason
>Krillin and Tenshinhan revive schools that still exist
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>>139310297
>a book about ki isn't going to revolutionize everything
>Implying people wouldn't want to have super powers without having to become hermits and already being born with an innate natural talent for martial arts
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>>139312575
But the fucking game says it doesn't. Sure, more people now can use ki, but so what? Having a couple thousand krillins isn't gonna really bring humanity to a golden age.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz6E-yx4hVo

DRAGONBALLLLLLLLLL
DRAGONBALLLLLLLLLL HEROES!!!!!!!!!!
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>>139312575
Knowing about ki isn't going to suddenly let everyone use it. Yamcha and Krillin were super human and they had to train for three years before they could use the Kamehameha. Videl trained constantly and was strong enough to fight crime unarmed, but she couldn't do anything but fly after she trained with Gohan for a month. Books do not replace training.
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>>139304913
>Gohan
>manly
pick one
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>>139304913

>leaves to train himself
>comes back the next day for a meeting

I'm glad Gohan isn't relevant anymore.
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>>139312841
She flew in one day, and not everyone needs to know Kamehameha, this will improve life for everyone especially since unlocking your Ki has a shit ton of benefits, including flight, possible telepathic powers, creating clothes and other objects from nothing, becoming bulletproof, the only issue would be if someone became strong enough they might be able to blow up the planet but no human has ever reached that point besides people like Krillin and Tien who are prodigies.
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>>139313543
First off: not everyone learned ki. It just became relatively popular.
Second: You still have to TRAIN. Videl was already a fantastic fighter when Gohan taught her ki. The average schmuck may learn some cool shit, maybe even flying, but so what? So we get a few thousand videls, big whoop.-
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>>139304913
Next episode Champas will DQ Vegeta due to his God Ki.

Goku will fight Hit as SSJ1 and lose.
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>7 year time skip
>Gohan can still go SS2 without passing out
>6 month time skip
>passes out when he goes SS2
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>>139313754
Saiyan menopause.
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>>139313754
Easy come, easy go.
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>>139313686
Why would Champa disqualify Vegeta for his god ki?
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>>139304913
so sad op so sad
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>>139314455
Because DBS has terrible writing.
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>>139306971
>>139306971
gohan fags are surely the worst
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>>139312810
>tfw these cutscenes have 100x better animation than super and a better OP song

Dragon ball heroes anime when????
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>>139315245
>>tfw these cutscenes have 100x better animation
Because they're not released weekly and aren't 22 minutes long you retard.
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>>139304913
Question, can gohan even turn super saiyan blue, what with the whole old kai ritual thing, if he wanted to?
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>>139312196
Vados = Unohana?
Freezer = Mayuri
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>>139315940
anything can be written into existence thanks to Toriyama.
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>>139315940
>super saiyan blue
You mean, SSJGSSJ?
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>>139316811
Yeah basically but i didnt feel like pressing capslock while i drag my face across a keyboard and call it a transformation.

>>139316808
>Iam toriyama Super Blue overrides kai powers, but he still has them for shits and giggles
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>>139317128
>kai powers
literally what?
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>>139313754
Welcome to DB Super
It doesn't matter what happens as long as Goku and Vegeta Battle Buddy Power Hour, fighting is fun, good food, lol
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>>139307943
>NO. Gohan's dream was to become a scholar since episode fucking ONE of DBZ.

Actually, the first time the manga touched on the topic suggests it was ChiChi's choice. This is one of the first few things established about his character.
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Gohan died in the cell saga dumbasses
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>>139304913
Real spoilers here, episode titles:

39: 驚くべき偽!匿名はちょうどだまされてしまいました!

"Terrible Scheme! The Stolen Dragon Balls!"

40: なぜそれが本当だと信じて?!偽のリークは継続します!

"This is a New Universe?! Gohan's On His Way!"

41: あなたは、あなたが見るすべてのものを信頼することはできません!だまさ取得のためのあなた自身の故障!

"It's Him, The Legendary Super Space Warrior Arrives! Find the Next Dragon Ball!"

42: 真剣に、あなたはばか、あなたは思いませんしていますか?!あなた、あなたのダムの顔、そしてあなたのダム尻は今のままにする必要があります!

"The God of Destruction, a Babysitter?! Beerus, Piccolo, and Pan's Amusement Park Adventure!"
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>>139320192
do you have a source on this
id like to check it myself
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>>139321701
> Fake amazing! Anonymity it has just been fooled!

>Why I believe that it's true? ! Leak of false will continue!
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>>139320192
>"The God of Destruction, a Babysitter?! Beerus, Piccolo, and Pan's Amusement Park Adventure!"
I didn't expect much from Super as a whole but damn
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>>139319585
chichi's choice became his.
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>>139322049
Are you fucking kidding? It's going to be the best episode of the series.
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>>139320192
>"The God of Destruction, a Babysitter?! Beerus, Piccolo, and Pan's Amusement Park Adventure!"

I goddamn hope this is real
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>>139322640
you're an idiot
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>>139323430
Why? It's not something I'm expecting to be real but that doesn't mean I can't wish it was.
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>>139320192
>Piccolo vs Magetta! Something something fake episode title!
That went well the last time.
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Is Chaozu dead?
Why he's not in this?
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>>139305693
i dont think hes go back to weakling again. remember hes technically training now in peacetime. so hes learned at least one mistake.
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>>139323848
Well Chiaotzu is a vampire so yes?
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>>139323848
Tien mentions during the fight against Freeza's underlings that he told Chaozu to stay home as it would be too dangerous for him. As for the rest of the series, he just hasn't shown up yet because he's been forgotten about like the millions of other characters that have been reduced to literal who status.
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>>139320192
>Those Japanese titles
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>>139327024
>Master Roshi is strong enough
>Jaco is strong enough
>some of Frieza's strongest men are Zarbon-tier
>Piccolo and Gohan have degraded so much that they can't instantly obliterate the threat
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>>139312553

>Goku kills himself at age 60
He and Vegeta go to a deserted solar system and fight to the death because they are starting to leave their prime, Not really suicide more like fight to the death.

>Goten and Trunks start a sword fighting school for no reason

I can agree with this being a little odd but Trunks says that if Frieza comes back he will cut him down and his future self utilizes a sword in combat so it's not SUPER far fetched that he and his best friend would get into sword based combat.

>Krillin and Tenshinhan revive schools that still exist

Roshi hasn't even taken on any new students in ages and i can't recall if the Crane School still exists and even if so it's current leader is a Asshole, Krillin and Tien taking both schools over and rebuilding them in their own image could also count as a revival of sorts.
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>>139327494
To be fair, the idea was that they DIDN'T want to outright obliterate the threat since they were stalling for Goku and Vegeta because otherwise they'd be in a namek situation again with Frieza raping them all personally. So, it makes sense that they wouldn't try obliterating the threat from the word go.
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>>139313668
Still would prevent many deaths and ki would probably be the future equivalent of yoga among the masses, Also means the Earth has full on knowledge about ki meaning powerful ki wielding armies to help protect the Earth from alien threats.
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>Cabba is baseform powerful as a SS
>Salad Saiyans are Mystics
>Gohan is able to adapt to their training better than G&V
>Gets power boost

This is the only proper way to give him a power up
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>>139307155
>only the mightiest asspull will get him to be relevant

You... you do know what show you're watching right?

>character achieves transformation that's so rare it's become a thing of legend that only one person in a thousand years is supposed to be able to attain.
>by next year, five new transformations have been unlocked, making the "legendary" power so completely insignificant that children with rudimentary training can achieve it.
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