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New Raildex thread in anticipation of NT15. Also Index chapter 70 is complete:

http://imgur.com/a/CZZM8

Previous thread:
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>>139295332
Well, I was waiting for this. Will post chapter 71's cleaned scans when my internet stops being slow and I am able to download the latest chapter.
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>>139295745
I've made a zip file a while ago that has the raws of chapters 70 - 97. Not sure if you've downloaded it yet or not.

If you need them then here you go:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/rnenfay64k7cpjx/Chapter+70+-+97+Raws.zip
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Newfriend here, how do I get into this series? What's Raildex and what's Index?

I saw a fight between Accelerator and Touma and I really liked what I saw. Does the series have more cool fights like that?
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>>139295332
In future could you put the chapters out as .zips rather than just uploading them to imgur? Thanks.

I'll have a look through now and see if I can spot any errors.
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>>139296196
>Does the series have more cool fights like that?

None in the anime.
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Reported for creating a General thread.
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When will Saten free Frenda from the indian poker rape cave Sniper-chan is holding her in
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>>139296263
I figured uploading them to imgur would be better, but will do. And I'm still new at typesetting, so please do.
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>>139296196

>What's Raildex and what's Index?
Index is a series of light novels that have been adapted into both manga and anime, Railgun is a spin off manga series. These are combined into Raildex when the series is being talked about as a whole.

>how do I get into this series?
The usual starting point is to watch the 4 anime series (2 Railgun, 2 Index). After that read the Railgun manga and Index LN if you're still interested. Probably best to watch Index I -> Railgun I -> Index II -> Railgun S as that's the release order. You can then either start from the first LN if you don't mind reading 13 volumes that you've already watched, or you can just jump in at SS1 then Volume 13. Read the Railgun manga from the beginning.

>Does the series have more cool fights like that?
It's pretty heavy on action, yeah.
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>>139296196
Raildex is both Railgun and Index
If you're a fan of CGDCT then watch Railgun first, it'll ease you into the whole setting. If you're more of the battle shounen type then watch Index, it kind of throws you right into the middle of things and the pacing is a bit off, but there's definitely a lot more going on.
Either way, pick up the novels at volume 14, read volume 13's epilogue, and enjoy the rest of OT. It's good stuff
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>>139296548
>>139296652
Thank you guys, I'll be watching the first Index anime today then.
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>>139295332
>>139295745
>>139296121

>Index translations back on track

Nice.

I miss Touma teaming up Necessarius.
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>>139296457
After a quick read through, the only actual major error I can spot is a missing speech bubble on page 7. There's also some minor spelling errors, but nothing too serious on that front. Pretty good attempt for someone new, I'd say.
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>>139297316
The translator didn't translate any SFX so I just left that speech bubble as it is. I'm doing my best to improve, so thank you for checking!
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>>139295332
Good work there, second half also gave me more confidence than the first one, which sounds more off than anything.

Just that two pages after the Oriana scene, "slow" should be "flow"
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>>139297560
Sorry about that. I was typesetting that when it was late at night and I was really tired. I'll try to pay more attention to what I type next time.
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>>139297316
Thanks, your feedback is much appreciated. I usually ignore sfx when I read manga myself, so I've kinda neglected that.

I also forgot how in Japanese pronouns are much rarer, so it kinda reads odd with all the Kami-yan. Well, it can only become better or something

>>139297760
Well, I also mistranslated something at the end, so we're even.
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>>139297865
Do you plan on translating the rest of the chapters? or are you finished?
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>>139298515
I'm slowly working on chapter 71, currently at page 11. But I have an exam the day after tomorrow, so I can't do too much til then.
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>>139298680

Index Manga was neglected mainly because of how far behind it was compared to the anime. It's getting attention now because season 3 never and Index manga is finally about to pass where season 2 left off.
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someone mentioned in the previous thread about making the index live steam a yearly thing. I might be down to do it in the days coming up TIL the fall fes every year til S3 is announced.
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>>139298773
Don't worry soon once Kihara becomes a shooting star our wish for scanlations will come true.
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Such a shame no one picked it up, it has some great moments going for it.
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Still no raws for Railgun 83.5 and 84?
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>>139301533
Only in chink.
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>>139301694
I know about those, but I meant the Japanese raws.
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>>139300987
Once the manga overtakes the anime, it will probably pick up. Maybe they'll start churning out more releases or something.
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>>139296405
That kill was beautiful, I love how Frenda fights.
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>>139301805
We lost our usual guy, we've not had a consistent provider for ages. Railgun occasionally having runs of shit chapters isn't new, I suppose the lack of BR is makes them seem even worse though.
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>>139301895
>kill
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>>139301951
But I thought the sniper was confirmed dead. Will this drag on?
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>>139301895
>Fuyukawa
>killing
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>>139302014
Check out the chink raws for the latest chapters, she showed up alive but SCHOOL dropped her from the team because she can't snipe or track as well without half her face. Also if you've not seen them yet, I'm sorry to break it to you but it's time skipped to after Battle Royale.
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>>139302163
Im not too big on reading spoilers, so Ill pass. That sounds dumb tho.
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>>139302257
No, my plan was not spoiling myself desu.
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>>139302515
Really hoped to see her getting melted by Mugino. I guess the manga is a bit too friendly sometimes. Also, I kinda assumed sniper was the girl Shiage saw in the body bag(pardon my speed reading, if Im wrong).
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>>139302515
>sniper-chan will never appear again
She might try to get revenge if she doesn't know Frenda's dead. This would probably lead to her trying to capture/kill Saten as she saw them together, which could get her involved in the rest of Dream Ranker or a future arc.
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>>139302838
>those theories of the girl in the dress being related to misaki

I haven't heard about this. Spoonfeed me please
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>>139303272
I've not seen anything other than "they are both blonde and have mind manipulation powers"
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Give me Nuit or death.
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>>139303681
I was convinced it would be at least mentioned in NT13, there's always hope for the next volume though.
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>>139303681
All you'll get is another "Misaka is going to die/disappear forever if Big Bad forces her to finish her transformation"

That's if this is ever mentioned again
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>>139303681
>wanting another rescue Mikoto arc for the third time
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>>139303681
>Mikoto somehow meets Aiwass and he says some cryptid shit about this since both are related to Thelema
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>>139305550
>She dismisses it as some trick caused by Misaki and forgets about it later
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>>139304377
Do we have examples of blood related siblings becoming espers and having similar powers? I know clones will have the same powers. Siblings having similar powers makes sense, especially ones that were raised together. After all, what esper power you get is heavily based on how your brain works and how see the world. It's not impossible two blood related people that were raised in the same house could end up with similar worldviews. It's also believable certain things are genetic and nurture has nothing to do with it. Yet another thing that's believable is genetics and nurture don't necessarily mean anything.

Even if Measure Heart and Misaki aren't sisters it's very very possible they know each other due to being a part of the same facility as children or something before their paths split
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>>139305746
Then she gropes her tits again right?
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>Uiharu got bullied hard by Kakine only for Misaka to grope Misaki's breasts
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>>139306081
I don't think they sisters because if Kamachi were sitting on a plot like that, I doubt he would have just thought it up or wasted NT11 like he did. I'm finding it hard to believe they are connected at all because Mental Stinger exists but it's certainly still possible and far more interesting than Mental Stinger
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Yeah, as cool and possible as the idea is, Measure Heart and Misaki are most likely not related. If they were sisters, old acquaintances, or rivals, I think Kamachi would have thought that up pre NT11 and would have used Measure Heart in that volume instead of Mental Stinger.

Not unless Kamachi intended on NT11 being a simple tease to a larger Misaki arc in either Railgun or the novels. Maybe that's the case but I think it's just fan babbling
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>>139306852
That's kind of my point. NT11 was complete shit with no redeeming qualities except Kihara dog and the nice, big "eat shit, shippers" that came with the volume.

If Kamachi had something as interesting as "Misaki and Measure Heart are connected because sisters/friends/rivals" planned, he'd have given us that.

I don't know what Misaki might do this arc but I'm not hoping fit anything interesting
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>>139305827
Not really. Remember, level upper arc basically shows there are a lot of overlap in terms of power sets. Having similar powers has zero guarantee they are related in any way. Otherwise, every teleporter is related, and we know that's not true.
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I found this near the airport.
What am I supposed to do with it?
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>>139307246
Maybe he's saving that arc for the Accelerator manga.
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>>139307315
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>>139307231
Call the authorities and go to the hospital with her to make sure she's okay.
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>Uiharu got bullied hard by Kakine
>Xochitl lost 2/3 of her body
>BLOCK esper got her fingers blown off
>Frenda got torn in half by meltdowner
>Saiai got thrashed and nearly killed
>Takitsubo nearly OD'd
>Mugino got riddled with bullets and lost an eye and arm
>Saten loses a friend
>Musujime's leg muscles got torn
>Kakine is turned into paint and put in a brainjar
>Aqua loses his powers, twice
>All so Misaka could grope Misaki
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>>139307370
Because we don't need to retread that arc three times. From the way things are presented in the LN and the two manga, seems like he's only willing to do an arc twice, if only to give two different perspectives on it. Any more and it becomes a clusterfuck.
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>>139307246

If we skipped Battle Royale then Mikoto already knows about the memory loss. From this point onwards it's a nonstop decline into her obsession for him.
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>>139307410
Where did it all go so right?
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So can we all agree that NT15 should be Salome being semi serious and ending with Yuiitsu fuckery?
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>>139307508
>Uiharu got bullied hard by Kakine
>Xochitl lost 2/3 of her body
>BLOCK esper got her fingers blown off
>Frenda got torn in half by meltdowner
>Saiai got thrashed and nearly killed
>Takitsubo nearly OD'd
>Mugino got riddled with bullets and lost an eye and arm
>Saten loses a friend
>Saraku gets Vectored
>Goggles Boy gets burned to death
>Management gets pulverized
>Musujime's leg muscles got torn
>Hakase gets atomized
>Yamate getsskinned
>Kakine is turned into paint and put in a brainjar
>Aqua loses his powers, twice
>All so Misaka could grope Misaki
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>>139307724

Also Avignon got fucking bombarded.
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>>139307384
>Yomikawa got stabbed
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>>139307043
Compared to the dogshit "Mikoto worried about Touma's memory loss plot" NT11 was just a backstory that had small impact to the plot compared to the former that had zero impact.
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>>139307724
Goggles had blood. He was likely decapitated or ripped in half like Frenda.

Although I would think Meltdowner would cauterize wounds
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>>139307724
It is Mikoto's fault, though.
She is just a pervert who is after Misaki's body. She even dreams about giving a massage to a full naked Misaki. She is gay, anon. She is just in denial about it.
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>>139307895
Not really bothered by it since it was obvious she's end-boss material since she was never given a name and acted incredibly rational.
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>>139307959
Too bad Misaki wants the T, even if she had to wait forever for a miracle that might never come.
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Geez. It sure didn't take long to get haters going.
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>>139307883
it was whole irrelevant though, Mikoto did more impact with her plot.
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>>139307768
Yep, it went so right, the Magic Gods sent her as far away from Touma as possible, less they lose Touma-sempai to her.
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>>139308019
What haters?
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>>139308001
>Too bad Misaki wants the T, even if she had to wait forever for a miracle that might never come.

Wanting Touma has nothing to do with being gay or het. The desire for the TouMAN goes beyond sexuality.
Besides, Misaki is pretty gay as well. She lusts after the clone of her rival.
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>>139307961
I would like to believe in what you said, but we have a lot of irrelevant characters that are never brought up again in the LNs. I have no reason to believe she will even appear again, maybe she took all the money she made during her time with SCHOOL and ran off.
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>>139308098
>Lusting after Dolly
You sick, sick man. No one lusts after her, she is to be taken care of like a daughteru.
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>>139308001
Misaki can go ahead and find someone else, that would be as realistic as she can develop for her character.
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About when should Dengeki release the first part of NT15? I think it's still a bit early to begin the vigil for it but I could be wrong
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>>139308219
Maybe after 15 years.
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>>139308054
>Mikoto did more impact with her plot.
You tell me.
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Why does she wear the shorts?
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>>139308001
>T
Tits? Because she at this point is quite aware she won't get the the Touman.
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>>139308284
No, we are getting the first part of the novel soon, then spoilers for the rest of the novel later
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>>139308085
>I want to know more about her almost as much as the #6.

We got to know enough about this person in NT12.
This person helps others by giving them the name of the #6.
We don't need to learn more about this person, but maybe we will find more impersonators in future LNs.
All I know for certain is that this character is probably one who never appeared before. The #6 will NEVER EVER be a character who we already know but is hiding the true identity of #6.
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>Avignon gets fucking bombarded
>Uiharu got bullied hard by Kakine
>Xochitl lost 2/3 of her body
>Tetsumou got her fingers blown off
>Frenda got torn in half by meltdowner
>Saiai got thrashed and nearly killed
>Takitsubo nearly OD'd
>Mugino got riddled with bullets and lost an eye and arm
>Saten loses a friend
>Saraku gets Vectored
>Goggles Boy gets burned to death
>Management gets pulverized
>Musujime's leg muscles got torn
>Yoshio Baba gets isolated until the day he dies
>Hakase gets atomized
>Yamate gets skinned
>Megumi jobs to Awaki
>Tatsuhiko got knocked out before he could fight
>Yomikawa got turned into meat skewer
>Kakine is turned into paint and put in a brainjar
>Aqua loses his powers, twice
>All so Misaka could grope Misaki
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>>139308170
Wait a second, will Dolly live as long as the clones?
Misaki should enjoy her daughteru while she lasts.
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>>139308219
Gunha is fine to her
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Hey does anyone have the screencap of the guy complaining about how no one recognizes his shitty Touma cosplay?
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>>139308371
If we're going that route, maybe she's the number 6 but she's just hiding her power level.
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>>139308219
>Misaka can go ahead and find someone else, that would be as realistic as she can develop for her character.
It goes the same for both Misaka and Misaki anon.
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>>139308338
>Why does she wear the shorts?
Because she's a proper lady
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>>139308453
Wasn't her skill already revealed at level 4, though?
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>>139308409

Terra got Frenda'd too
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>>139308338
So she can wear Gekota panties without being made fun of
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Level 5 team up when?
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>>139308510
>>Avignon gets fucking bombarded
>>Uiharu got bullied hard by Kakine
>>Xochitl lost 2/3 of her body
>>Tetsumou got her fingers blown off
>>Frenda got torn in half by meltdowner
>>Saiai got thrashed and nearly killed
>>Takitsubo nearly OD'd
>>Mugino got riddled with bullets and lost an eye and arm
>>Saten loses a friend
>>Saraku gets Vectored
>>Goggles Boy gets burned to death
>>Management gets pulverized
>>Musujime's leg muscles got torn
>>Yoshio Baba gets isolated until the day he dies
>>Hakase gets atomized
>>Yamate gets skinned
>>Megumi jobs to Awaki
>>Tatsuhiko got knocked out before he could fight
>>Yomikawa got turned into meat skewer
>>Kakine is turned into paint and put in a brainjar
>>Aqua loses his powers, twice
>>All so Misaka could grope Misaki
>Avignon gets fucking bombarded
>Uiharu got bullied hard by Kakine
>Xochitl lost 2/3 of her body
>Tetsumou got her fingers blown off
>Frenda got torn in half by meltdowner
>Saiai got thrashed and nearly killed
>Takitsubo nearly OD'd
>Mugino got riddled with bullets and lost an eye and arm
>Saten loses a friend
>Saraku gets Vectored
>Goggles Boy gets burned to death
>Management gets pulverized
>Musujime's leg muscles got torn
>Yoshio Baba gets isolated until the day he dies
>Hakase gets atomized
>Yamate gets skinned
>Megumi jobs to Awaki
>Tatsuhiko got knocked out before he could fight
>Yomikawa got turned into meat skewer
>Kakine is turned into paint and put in a brainjar
>Aqua is victim of Amakusa's Japanese Gangbang
>Aqua loses his powers, twice
>Terra gets Frenda'd
>All so Misaka could grope Misaki
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>>139308506
She's the rational one here. She could just lie about it and with her power, would you doubt her?
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>>139308457
it applies all members harem
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>>139308659
I really can't see how her power would be Level 5 worth, though. Or why would she be helping people, considering she is garbage who does dirty work for money.
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>>139308752
It's a cover so she can do things without other people interfering. Besides, she can't hide in plain sight if she told everyone she's the number six outright.
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>>139308611
>not #6 yet
I won't see it without him
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>we get another illustration of Mikoto grabbing Misaki's tits in NT15
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>>139308935
That scene was just ridiculous, for Mikoto and Misaki. I want NT15 to be more serious than that.
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>>139308935
>A Railgun OVA gets announced
>Its SOL Nagaispace with Mikoto gropping Misaki
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>>139308611
>>139308912
I'm torn apart.
A part of me wants the #6 to appear and end the mystery, but another part loves to speculate about it and wishes Kamachi never reveals the #6.

>>139308935
I don't know why Mikoto didn't do it with Lessar. She was willing to let Mikoto massage her breasts after Mikoto showed interest on them, but she went full beta and ruined her chances. However, Lessar's chest isn't as great as Misaki's, though. I suppose Mikoto only wants to grab quality material.
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>>139308710
Except Index and by a hard stretch Othinus.
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>>139309063
Of course. I'm sure that what everyone with half a brain wants. But given the slap in the face Railgun just gave us and the uninspired summary of NT15, I'm betting it'll be more of that no matter how badly I or anyone else wants something actually interesting.
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>>139309239
Nope, heres more Mikoto and Misaki retardation though
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>>139309191
What slap? That you didn't get Battle Royale, which has less to do with Railgun and more with Accelerator?
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>>139309239
Why would he kidnap an ugly fuck like Usagi?
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>>139309320
Bunny girls make Hamazura goes Super Hamazury.
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>>139309379
>>139309426
She looks like a nerd and he likes bunny girls playboy style like the ones from his porn videos.
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>>139309365
But nothing happens to them on that day. That's the whole damn point. They are not being fucked with by the Magic Gods/Aleister like Accelerator, Touma and Hamazura are. Mikoto and the rest of her group has nothing to do with the darkness anymore.
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>>139309461
Hamazura got a nose bleed when Saiai propped a pillow behind Takitsubo's back that looks like bunny ears. Apparently, as long as it's a bunny girl in some form, it makes him go Super Hamazury.
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>>139309482
I wouldn't say Hamazura is getting roped into anything by anyone. He's gotten into some shit with Mugino chasing him while he tried to fix Takitsubo and that's about it. Accelerator gets dragged into AC bullshit a lot and Touma gets pulled into literally everything that happens within a few blocks of him, but Hamazura gets through most of the series without getting involved in other people's problems.
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>>139309552
And it was a classic bunny girl if you remember the illustration from vol.19.

The one from the preview looks like an uglier version of Azumi.
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>>139296121
What I mean to say was download the latest chapter "that you just scanlated".
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>>139309286
If I wanted to see lesbians goofing around town then I could put myself to watch a dogshit yuri series with better plot instead of your fucking comedy Kamachi.
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>>139309286
>lusting after Lessar boobs
>dreaming about massaging naked Misaki and serving her
>turning her straight friend Kuroko into a lesbian for her
>trying to do the same with Saten using indirect kisses
>and now grabbing Misaki's Misakis

It is becoming harder and harder to close your closet, Mikoto. Only Touma can save you with his dick now.
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>>139309638
But it is during that point in time that Aleister took an interest in him because he refuses to die. He basically went murderhobo when Hamazuro beaten Mugino twice. Then the Kihara's took an interest in him through proxy of Takitsubo. Mikoto and her friends had nothing to do with the darkness, and as such, the events of Battle Royale has absolutely nothing to do with them.
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whats this about Biribiri turning int a goddess didn't it already happen? Why would Kamachi let it happen again?
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>>139309651
It doesn't matter anon. Bunny girls makes Hamazura go Super Hamazury. This is an undeniable fact.
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>>139309837
I wasn't the guy who thought Railgun should have been about the Battle Royale as cool as it would have been, I'm just pointing out your including Hamazura with Touma and Accel on being yanked around by AC/Magic Gods/Aleister is wrong.
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SEASON 3 WHEN?
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So what happened to the girl that got her bones turned into obsidian in the DRAGON arc?
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>>139295332
Can anybody put up a mediafire of this? Imgur keeps asking me to put up my email when i try to download it because it was so big but there's an error for some reason.
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>>139309706
>Only Touma can save you with his dick now.
And he doesn't even wants that because he thinks of her as a boy.
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>>139309959
But he was being yanked around by Aleister. Aleister wants him dead, which basically moved him all over AC and Russia while trying to save his waifu. None of that shit would have happened if it wasn't for Aleister.
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>>139309867
Idk, but it would be interesting if something like this does happen
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>>139309888
Bullshit, he likes tits above that and the nerd is so flat Mikoto looks busty in comparison.

>>139310036
Still in the hospital next to Xochitl.
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>>139310223
Does not matter. He loves the bunny girls in any form, breasts or no breasts. He wouldn't be Hamazura if he didn't. Bunny girls is love, bunny girls is life. Bunny girls make the world a better place.
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>>139310191
The only thing that resulted from "Aleister wanting Hamazura dead" was those Dark Matter soldiers showing up in WW3 though. Hamazua just grabbed a jet and fucked off to Russia all on his own, then after grabbing that file on everyone's levels Aleister stopped giving a shit despite the fact it would likely not cause that much of an uproar and be pretty easy to hush up even if it would. Hamazura is largely off the radar from everyone but psycho chicks like Mugino.
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>>139310312
Anon, I was specifically talking about the events during Battle Royale and WW3, and why Hamazura has more to do with it than Mikoto.
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>>139310168
He is not wrong. Mikoto doesn't have boobs for a reason. It would definitely make sense for Mikoto to be a futa.
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>>139310041
Guys, pls. ;_;
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>>139310459
It would totally make sense why Kuroko is into her.

Kuroko isn't gay.
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Brunhilde is the patron Saint of shotas
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>>139310433
Great, and I was specifically talking about how you're wrong to say that Hamazura has been led around by powers that be like Magic Gods, AC or Aleister in the same manner as Accelerator and Touma when he's had maybe one or two events tops happen due to anyone but his own relations. I've said this once already.
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Time for Kurokocancer to accept how criminally shit their taste is. Mikoto could easily become a lesbian and even then she'd reject Kuroko for someone else.

No, fuck your >implying she won't win eventually

Kuroko is shit and you're cancer if you like her
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>>139310168
Touma is the man.
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>>139310558
Anon, I get what you're saying, but I have not said anything in regards to anything beyond Battle Royale and possibly WW3. Because during those arc, Hamazura was indeed yanked hard by Aleister.
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>>139310686
Battle Royale and most of WW3 is quite literally Hamazura's own fault.
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>>139310788
It's his own fault for not dying when Aleister wants him to? Seriously?
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>>139310672
DIE
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>>139310041
>>139310492
Here you go:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zbmak2hk5tkvck4/Chapter+70+-+Shorthand.zip
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>>139310896
There are really people who think this and think that Accelerator should be executed for the Sisters experiment. Even though the only ones capable of executing him are the ones who literally made that experiment happen
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>>139310855
>>139310896
No, I'm saying him joining Item after being in Skillout was his own fault, and as such the events of Battle Royale are his own problem. Aleister didn't influence Hamazura into doing any of the shit he did then and he didn't decide to make him be in the right place at the right time. His getting chased by Measure Heart, Mugino after saving Takitsubo and the like cannot be construed as being Aleister fucking with Hamazura in the slightest it's very obviously the result of his own actions. The only one I'll grant is the Dark Matter soldiers being sent to track him down, as most of the other events happen to him after he does his own shit like grabbing Takitsubo or a jet and flying out to Russia.

When you compare this to Touma walking down the street and winning a trip to Italy just in time to fall onto an ice ship and save Agnese it's obvious which one is getting yanked around and which isn't.
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>>139310906
Oh thank you. I thought I had too save each image individually again which I did for your two previous chapters of railgun.
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>>139311032
Touma could have refused to go to Italy anon, just like how Hamazura could have refused to join ITEM. But let's be honest here, do you genuinely believe that Aleister didn't account for him to join ITEM? Because remember, it wasn't him joining ITEM that got him mad, but him not dying to Mugino.
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>>139310996
A crime is a crime. Death sentence or not, Accelerator is yet to answer Justice for his crimes. He was never judged by any righteous tribunal because he lives in a city ruled by a wicked maniac who needs him for his own demented purposes.
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>>139311302
Sure Touma could have refused, but that was a very obvious instance of him getting moved into the right place at the right time. Hamazura being in ITEM on it's own isn't Aleister pushing him around, it was a direct result of him being a SkillOut leader and getting grabbed by the DarkSide.

I do think Aleister expected him to join Item but I don't think he pushed him into it, and I don't think Aleister did much to influence any of the things that happened to Hamazura, whereas random coincidences get Touma into shit all the time.
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>>139311320
Any "justice" he gets woukd also have to be handed down to Aleister and everyone still living who helped this experiment happen. Even the Sisters themselves wouldn't be blameless because they covered it up. And agreed to it.

Trying to judge him formally woukd open up a huge can of worms.
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Upload batato when?
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>>139311526
Isn't it already on Batoto?
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>>139311122
No problem. I'll upload them as zip files next time.

>>139311526
Already did:
http://bato.to/reader#a8c97a2629dd8321
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>>139311477
This. If a "crime is a crime", then every single person involved in the experiment should answer. Even the clones that helped covered it up.

You want to be the one to tell 10032 she is an accessory to mass murder and toss her in jail too?

Because if you don't, then fuck off with your hard on for formal justice
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>>139311477
This is why Aleister needs to be removed. I honestly hope the other nations are already planning something to get rid of that lunatic.
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Fucking hell I need more Index manga in my life.
Look how sexy those clothes are.
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>>139311413
Anon, he didn't need to influence any of the things because he already accounted for everything to happen according to his plan. He has zero reason to pull any strings when everything is working normally. It's when it suddenly stops working normally that he freaked out.

He knows Hamazura will join ITEM and he will do all the things leading up to his fight with Mugino. What he didn't know is that Hamazura didn't die and actually won against Mugino, twice. If he had known Hamazura was going to win, he would have yanked him hard way before that encounter to ensure he loses. Do not mistake the lack of actions for the lack of intent. He was controlling Hamazura, if only because he was doing everything he was suppose to, up until that derailing fight, at which point, we see just how much he really is yanking at Hamazura.
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>>139311779
Chapter 71 is slowly being worked on, but it won't be finished for a while since the translator has an exam coming up.
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>>139311713
>Even the clones that helped covered it up.
>You want to be the one to tell 10032 she is an accessory to mass murder and toss her in jail too?

Cringeworthy. You are merely being an apologist. Sorry, but I don't have a criminal pet like you do.
Nice try of you, but no righteous tribunal would condemn the clones considering they were the victims in the first place. Would you condemn a victim of rape because this person didn't tell about what happened with her?
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>>139311823
You can hardly call sitting back and watching events unfold jerking people around anon. The fact remains he didn't do shit to Hamazura until he beat Mugino and ran off to Russia, where he sent some soldiers after him and called it a day. You can't compare that to how much Accel and Touma get their chains yanked around.
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>>139311734
Yeah, sentencing Accelerator to death or imprisonment isn't going to solve the problem. It would open a huge can of worms.

How would they even deal with Mikoto? Should she be punished for not keeping an eye on her DNA? Blowing up facilities?

Aleister is the one that really needs punishment.
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>>139311779
I want to lick those armpits
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>>139312001
Mikoto is a victim too, anon. And her crimes were a crime of passion.
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>>139311915
It's the same shit anon. Most of the time, Aleister didn't interfere with Accelerator or Touma's lives because they were acting exactly what he wants them to. He never interfered with them but that doesn't mean he wasn't controlling their lives.
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>>139311903
10032 didn't just "not tell what happened to her" She aided it's continuation, cleaned it up, and agreed to it. She also wanted it to continue until Touma speeched at her. Remember "a crime is a crime".
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>>139311779
It is really great the kind of drawing, the artist definitely is enforced
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>>139312001
The problem is that he committed a crime and wasn't judged it by a tribunal yet.

>How would they even deal with Mikoto? Should she be punished for not keeping an eye on her DNA? Blowing up facilities?

She wasn't aware of what they would use her DNA for. She can't be blamed for being fooled.

Accelerator is an entire different case. He was fully aware of what he was doing and he knows that. He could've said no and stop, but he didn't. He deserves judgment. Even some time in prison, at least. No one should be above the law.
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>>139312055
Accelerator, Mikoto and all the clones were victims and their crimes were committed through being puppets of Aleister. None of them should be punished. It anything they should get front row seats to watch Aleister hang
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>>139312065
It's not because Aleister subtly steers Touma towards events he wants him to take part in, and near directly tells Accelerator to listen up or things will happen to LO, then making her sick to the point he has to run off to find a cure in Russia. He pushes and prods them into specific directions to do their thing even if he isn't directly saying "now do something you wouldn't normally do, Touma don't save that chick". He's controlling Touma and Accelerator's lives, he was fine with watching Hamazura's life unfold and then when he didn't die went "shit maybe I should fix that" and then left him once Mugino saved him for whatever reason.
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>>139312157
Aleister is the one who made sure Accelerator was molded into someone who would agree. Aleister is the one who gave him the option to even consider. He's the one that needs to pay.
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>>139312211
No, you idiot. Aleister has never acted himself whatsoever. The only time he ever directly ordered shit was against Hamazura. Every other time he let things happen normally because it's how he had expected them to act. It's like a goddamn plot point that Aleister never directly acted until Hamazura went completely off the rails.
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>>139310524
What if she and Awaki meet?
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If you seriously believe anyone but Aleister should pay for any crimes committed during the Sisters Experiment you're trolling or retarded.

Either just Aleister pays, no one pays, or everyone pays, including the clones for covering it up.
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Aleister did everything wrong
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>>139312371
>Aleister never directly acted
Yeah so him calling up Kihara-kun and telling him to grab LO so they could make Kazakiri an angel was someone else right?
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>>139312495
Laura please go. And stop putting shit on Kamisato's mind.
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>>139312529
It's part of the plan against an invading magician. He was simply giving them the go ahead to execute it. It does not change the fact that Aleister had accounted for Hamazura to die by Mugino's hands. If he didn't, then he wouldn't have freaked out over Hamazura winning now, would he?
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>>139312696
But Aleister did do everything wrong. Sisters experiment was just the tip of the iceberg.

How many other experiments led to kids dying? How many times has Aleister allowed something like Battle Royale go down in the 20 or so years AC has existed? Is he responsible for killing his own daughter because he allowed HP to toy with her? There's a lot more than 10,0031 skeletons in Aleister's closet
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>>139312814
I never once said that Aleister did anything more to Hamazura than sit back and expect Hamazura to die by Mugino's hands until that point now did I? We're talking how he does in fact actively screw around with Touma and Accelerator unlike he did with Hamazura. This is likely because, surprise, Touma and Accelerator are much more important pieces in the plan than Hamazura was and he's making sure they develop properly and go help him in some places. Hamazura was a throwaway thug that didn't need Aleister's prodding or influence to go anywhere because in the grand scheme of things he wasn't that important.
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>>139312911
I accidently an extra 0 in 10031 but you know what I mean
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>>139308611

When Touma makes friends with 6.

>>139309146

>tfw the number 6 won't be Aogami and all the theories around him and his potential power will have been for nothing
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>>139312911
Much as Aleister is a bad guy, I don't think you can toss every single thing the Kiharas have done at him as being his fault.
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>>139312911
Anon, you can't use human morals to judge an Archetype Controller. He thinks beyond silly little things like concepts of good and evil.
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>>139312954
But in the end, he did account for Hamazura to die by Mugino's hand. He's a part of his plan, whether you like it or not. Which means, Hamazura is being yanked by Aleister, just not as hard as Touma and Accelerator is. That is, right up until he defeated Mugino, in which case, he got yanked harder than the two combined.
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>>139313101
How hard is it to get the concept that "I'm guessing x will happen" is not the same shit as "I'm going to do x so that y happens" and only the latter is yanking anyone's chain in any way shape or form?

If I sit here and go "You anon, are likely to have toast for breakfeast tommorow, and then you will walk out the door to work, getting hit by a car and tragically dying" I have done absolutely shit all to yank you around.
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>>139313013
You really think he doesn't know what they do and couldn't stop them if he wanted to?

Maybe everything they did wasn't his fault as in "it was his orders" but you could definitely say he allowed it. He probably even likes Kihara shennanigans.
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>>139313283
Being a bystander to something doesn't necessarily make it your responsibility to stop it. If I see a guy beat the shit out of someone and rob them and I just walk by even if I could have stopped them I'm not just as bad as the guy who did it. Sure it doesn't make me a great guy, and you can probably still be charged with something for it depending, but it's not the same thing.
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If Aleister wasn't okay with Kihara shit, they'd be gone. He certainly wouldn't have a Kihara pet dog.

No using "but Kiharas probably did things that weren't direct orders from Aleister" to try to make Aleister less responsible for his city
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>>139313445
>He certainly wouldn't have a Kihara pet dog.
Noukan isn't half as bad as the rest of the Kiharas
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>>139313213
No, but if I suddenly don't get hit by a car and you immediately call up several hitman to run me over with a car, then it goes to show just how far you're willing to go to ensure I do everything you want me to.
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So can we guess that Rakko's estimation of Frenda and Saten's heights are accurate?
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>>139313375
But controlling a city you made is far more expected than helping someone getting the shit beaten out of them. Aleister has a responsibility to keep his city running the way he wants it, so obviously he wants Kiharas there
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>>139313375
Difference is that Aleister could stop it with no effort at all. There's no risk to him or his plans by stopping the atrocities.
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>>139313513
I have long ago agreed that siccing the soldiers on Hamazura is the one thing Aleister has done to yank around Hamazura's chain. It doesn't change the fact that by and large Aleister completely ignored Hamazura.

If we're going by your example, if I hired those goons and they missed you and I called it a day and didn't sic any others on you doesn't that mean I only have some interest in you following my guesses?
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>>139313445
> they'd be gone.
They are a concept.
You can´t destroy them.
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>>139313581
>There's no risk to him or his plans by stopping the atrocities.
Baseless assumptions. They could easily be necessary evils. Aleister has also said that if they weren't in AC they would have cropped up elsewhere instead. Kiharas are a naturally occurring phenomenon.
>>139313538
It's still different to be actually doing the act or ordering the act than to know that it is occurring and looking the other way. It also doesn't mean he condones it.
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Rereading the Sisters Arc made me want to see Imouto(s) being relevant again. We didn't get to know what happened to the rest of Third Season and I don't think they'd make a single clone and call it a "project". AC surely made at least 10-20 new clones right? All of them should be Level 3 or 4, judging by Worst's power.
We also need a rematch between Accel and Aiwass. Imouto can help with that too.
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>>139313765
youre absolutely retarded if you think Aleister could not wipe them out any time he pleases.
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>>139313688
Anon, this is what people call the illusion of free will. I'm allowed to do whatever I want except for the things that you don't want me to. It doesn't really matter if your hitmen had missed me. You have already shown the only reason why I'm alive is because I was doing everything you want me to. If I had did anything else, I would already be dead. I have no control over my life.
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>>139313779
If we were talking about anyone but Aleister, I'd concede here but given his nature, the mere fact he continues to allow it does mean he condones it.
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>>139313909
Except for the part where my hitmen failed and I did nothing about it? If it was that important to me I would have done something else about it, and you still have control over your life, you make whatever decisions you want, one of them makes me upset, but you survived my frustrated state and kept living, so you clearly don't live solely according to my own will.
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>>139313938
Aleister is not all powerful, he may be the archetype controller but you can't say that he doesn't have a reason for them being in Academy City and obviously just keeps them around for shits and giggles.
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>some faggot gets banned
>a third part of the thread is gone

Wew lads.
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>>139314061
It's almost like we have discussions on this thread or something isn't it?
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>>139314061
>It was the Ohohoposter
Nice.
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>>139308611
Ahh man, I remember that SoL scenario we made of the level 5s a few years ago. That was great.
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>>139314024
>Aleister is not all powerful
He pretty much is.
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>>139314024
...I'm quite literally saying he has them there because he wants them, and is therefore okay with what they do or else he would not want them
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>>139314392
I realize you're saying it, I'm telling you that you're a moron for doing so. We can't know that they're not part of his plan like the Sisters are and we don't know whether or not he condones their actions or just puts up with them while waiting for them to play their role in creating a pawn he needs like Yuitsu or creating conditions needed for one of his others to grow. You're looking at this too narrowly.
>>139314387
Not really. He's just powerful.
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>Misaka goes 5.3 for some reason
>Kamisato thinks its a Magic God and World Rejects her
How mad would everyone be?
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>>139314701
I don't know what Touma would do, but it wouldn't be good.
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>>139314508
He wouldn't just put up with them. If he needed them but didn't like what they were doing, he'd find some way to stop them without removing them. You might be the moron here
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>>139314738
Punished Touma when?
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I have only read some chapters of the raildex manga and I plan to start again, but I have a question to the people reading the LN, who is winning the toumabowl?
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>>139314701
I would be okay with it if Kamisato is still after magic gods. I'd only be mad if he drops the kill all magic gods only to pick up again to kill off someone, I woukd be mad if it was anyone he killed, not just Mikoto
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>>139314831
Othinus, don't bother Touma about it.
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>>139314747
So did you read my post or not? The conditions that the Kiharas exert on the city could very well be necessary. How exactly do you plan on having Aleister keep the condition of "Kiharas fuck up shit for character(s?) x and make him/them grow" or the like without altering it too badly? Just lock them up for several years and then let them out for a couple days? It doesn't work that way and the very existence of the Dark Side may be important, you don't know this and are just being difficult for the sake of it.
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Uploaded v2 of Index chapter 70 to fix spelling errors:
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>>139314881
If he wants Darkside to shape people, it's ibvious he is okay with anyone that helps the Darkside grow.

I'm not saying he faps to kids dying because he likes it that much but he's not sighing sadly as Kiharas do shit he doesn't like and merely tolerating them, either.

He's fine with everything that's happened in AC. You even proved why. If darkness is a tool he uses, he'll have no issues with people that work in darkness.
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>>139315124
>If he wants Darkside to shape people, it's obvious he is okay with anyone that helps the Darkside grow.
Incorrect. Necessary =/= wanted. Sure it's likely Aleister just doesn't give a shit, but we can't know that, since his plans go far past a couple people's lives. It's far more likely that it's just part of a larger picture and Aleister isn't bothering with the small stuff, since he is focused on a macroscale of moving humanity into a new aeon past god or will be able to fix things later like the magic gods like to do.
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>>139314831
Biribiri.
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Just got to this part. Why is Touma so based?
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>>139315410
In a bizarre world.
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>>139314831
Index and she isn't even trying despite the small amount of screentime she has.
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>>139315261
Well yes. His focus is his own larger goal and he does WANT anything that gets him closer. He might not get orgasmic pleasure from it, but if he's chosen darkness as a path to his goal, it's what he wants
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>>139314831
No one yet, but Mikoto gets ship the most.
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>>139315453
No anon, that's called fanfic doujins.
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>>139315410
I wish that were true. But it is far more than you think
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>>139315499
Do you not know the term "necessary evil"?
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>>139315545
That's what I'm describing. He has accepted his path and is content with it even if he's not getting off to it.
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>>139315604
No part of a necessary evil says you are content with it nor that it's what you want. That's the part you seem to be missing. It could simply be the only way he sees to accomplish his goals. Think Kiritsugu killing Irisviel.
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>>139315423
Touma is great when he isnt monopolizing the screentime
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>>139315656
Im not talking about every single case. I'm talking about Aleister in specific. He's not some sad sad good guy who depressingly took a dark path because it was his only option. There's literally nothing about Aleister that implies this and if there was I'd be agreeing with you.

He is okay with everything he's done even if he doesn't get high levels of pleasure from it. Get over it.
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>>139315831
Why does Aleister need to be crying over it to not be totally cool with Kiharas running wild?
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>>139315831
His daughter died.
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>>139315935
For all we know, it might have been partially his fault. It seemed like HP and Aleister were doing something together. But that could be wrong
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I'm going to impregnate every clone in that city.
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>>139315904
Aleister is not so stupid or weak as to jump on a path he is not okay with. If no path he was fine with presented itself, he'd make one
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What did he mean by this?
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>>139316215
Here you are again assuming Aleister is all powerful and has made no concessions in his life.
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>>139316264
I'd say at this point in his life he doesn't have to make concessions, even if it's highly likely he did at one time
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>>139316244
It could be foreshadowing. It could also be bullshit to make Mikoto wonder what it all means.
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>>139316244

Currently I would like to know that
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>>139316244
It's not surprising Misaka would be a favorite. All the other Level 5s are fairly predictable unlikeable assholes stepped in the dark side, except Gunha who is both unusable and retarded, and Aihana who is super boring.
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I feel like one or two potential pieces of Aleister's plan will get nuked because they are too similar to something else.

Takitsubo manipulates AIM. So why didn't he use her for that instead of Accelerator?

Hyouka seems to serve a similar purpose to the Sisters/Will-chan
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>>139316244
It could be interesting and glorious if actually has a deep meaning on there
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>>139316983
Hyouka isn't a "similar purpose" to the Sisters, she's largely derived from them
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I think you faggots just want Nuit for more nauseating Kamikoto pandering that won't go anywhere. Fuck off.

I hope Nuit happens and Touma isn't even anywhere near her and someone else saves her
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>>139316244
It means that she is very important to his plan without actually doing anything but giving her hair to make clones
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>>139317299
>someone else saves her
Etzali will save her anytime anyplace. I bet he can handle Nuit far better than other magicians or espers
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>>139317299
No, people want Nuit because it fits with her 5.3 form and is a very interesting theory. "Aleister's favorite", "hidden in the shadow of the main plan" and "awaken your sleeping power" all help to propagate the Nuit theory. Her 5.3 form literally looks exactly how Nuit is described in Thelema.
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