Is there a character who can beat Ywach?
>>139223781
Presumably Haschwald could stab him in his sleep.
>>139223781
Yes, the 5 wars powers combined
>Ichigo
>Kenpachi
>Ichibe
>Aizen
>Urahara
or killing him while he is asleep since his powers reverse with Haschwaltd.
>>139224035
In other words, he a far better established final villian than anything Kishimoto and Naruto came up with.
>Obito is just basically NInja Anakin Skywalker without the cool Darth Vader transformation
>Madara is so OP as all shit that the writer had to throw him out of the story
>Kaguya was interjected so last minute that her existence doesn't make a lick of sense.
>>139224035
He can see the future though, so he'll know in advance that they're going to try and kill him in his sleep.
>>139223781
>inb4 Madara copypasta
>inb4 Goku
>>139224233
Except there is still the opening where he can't see the future due to switching powers with Haschwaltd. Even if he prepares for it, that isn't a garuntee that it will be a successful counter attack.
>>139223781
>>139224248
Ywach is immune to any ability he knows about. And he can see the future so he can know about his opponents attacks before they use them. That rules out anything Goku or Madara could throw at him.
>>139223781
>>139224364
You forget that Ywach can't see what goes on with parts of the Soul King (right arm, left arm, heart, left leg, right leg)
That's also another weakness.
>>139223781
I mean, he could probably still get cancer or MS or something.
>>139224248
>>139223781
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>>139224532
Madara wouldn't stand a chance against Yhwach
>>139224576
>>139223781
He can't see certain other factors or options with his future vision, which seems to be anything else that would classify as "divine", or just above a certain level of Mortal.
It's why he's so worried about the 5 War Potentials, as they're all gods in the making who might be able to function outside of his range. Same reason he was so keen on killing the Soul King and freaked out when his hand revived; he couldn't see its movements.
Strong as shit, but has an established weakness. Not sure how I would define his motives since we don't know his endgame yet, but his power set is pretty decent for a Final Boss.
>>139223781
No, Kubo needs one hell of an asspull to end this shit off, literally gave the guy god like powers.
Aizen
_Kubo_
A villain you know and love who’s unafraid to step in!
He’s constantly confusin’, confoundin’ the Soul Society
Ev’ryone give it up for Bleach's favorite fighting Captain!
>>139224035
>reread the chapters
Realize Kurotsuchi is one of the most useful captain there.
Saves Kenpachi twice, and has the Keys to unbind Aizen, which he probably timed released so that Aizen is free. and he probably saved Urahara off screen just now, too.
>>139226404
>>139223781
I'd beat him up and take his lunch money.
Inferno Cop.
The cock. The only thing Yhawch will see with his future vision is his defeat, because nobody can beat the cock.
>>139223781
Yamamoto actually did.
>>139226536
>>139226329
I'm actually surprised that Mayuri wasn't considered to be a war potential.
It really does seem like the war potentials are considered to be the wildcards of the Shinigami side, people who Juha Bach considers to be people that could unexpectedly turn the tide of the war, but Mayuri sure as shit seems to be one of the most useful people in the war. It's possible that Bach may have overlooked him though, since his "imposter" did think that Pre-Shikai Kenpachi's power was overestimated.
Who's Kubo's official self insert? He'd beat Ywach.
>>139226950
Uryuu / Aizen
>>139223781
Aizen, especially considering he has control over Kubo
>>139226110
>Kubo needs one hell of an asspull to end this shit off
Kubo finds a way. He is the undisputed master of asspulls, he's made his career off them
>>139226950
Uryuu, by his own admission.
![xEyeHKB[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qkdpFID.jpg "xEyeHKB[1].jpg")
>>139223833
>>139223781
>YHWH
>has eyes that can see everything including the future and every ability
>Aizen
>has the ability to completely fool anyone's senses
This fight better happen, I wanna see the asspull contest
>You think you can see everything, but how can you be sure what you're seeing isn't an illusion?
>You fool, Aizen, with my power I can easily see through your silly tricks
>Oh, but have you really seen through me, or have you fallen for the illusion that you have?
etc etc
>>139228007
I didn't know how badly I needed to see this until now. Kubo has to have been keeping Aizen alive for a reason, right?
>>139228240
He had no choice to begin with, aizen is literally immortal.
>>139228240
What needs to happen is a United Front [Deicide Mix]
Aizen and Ichigo teaming up against Ywach. Aizen hiding Ichigo's movements with illusion. Switchig places. When dd you fall under the illusion that you weren't already hit by a Getsuga?
>>139224328
What kind of faggotry is this?
>>139223781
Cmon OP, that's an easy one. Uchiha Madara.
>>139229149
Which version tho?
>>139223781
Misogi Kumagawa.... literally no stronger character.
>>139224532
>>139224576
Somebody needs to write a Yhwach copypasta like Madara's.
I've seen one of Dio Brando and Kars before.
and No 4 espada
>>139226546
The only correct answer.
>>139226913
that's because at the end of the day Mayuri is just a poor man's Urahara. Which still makes him ridiculously stronk compared to most adversaries
>>139223781
Shunsui
>>139224074
this is a bleach thread. fuck off narufag
>>139224270
HE can see the future hes not limited to fucking 24 hours in his immediate vacinity
>>139230697
>>139224074
>Madara was OP because he was heavily plot armored the entire time
>Ywach is even more plot armored than Ramsay Snow
>>139232682
Yhwach isn't plot armored. Plot armour is when someone who should be defeated/killed comes out all right, maybe even with a victory, for no apparent reason other than because the plot made it necessary.
Inside the Bleach universe, Yhwach's victories aren't random. They are the result of him being ridiculously broken in both the type and level of his powers. It's not plot armour because the audience can clearly see that someone of Yhwach caliber is going to shit all over the rest of the cast. Yes, Yhwach wins because that's the direction of the plot, but it's explained away in-universe by his power. Ramsay on the other hand is clear plot armour, because despite going up against hardened warriors and veteran commanders he keeps coming out on top effortlessly. The audience can not find a satisfactory explanation for why he is so damn successful
>>139228007
Ywach
>just as I foresaw
Aizen
>keikaku doori
Ywach
>just as I foresaw
Aizen
>keikaku doori
and so on
>>139230844
he cant see ichigos future
>>139233809
Haschwalth just said they are all going to die
>>139232943
god damn that anon just got thoroughly btfo
>>139223781
Only one man.. Legend... God
MADARA UCHIHA
>>139229882
Really? I've only seen the Ainz Ooal Gown and Santa Claus one.
Is there some sort of pastebin compilation or something for this pasta?
>>139232943
Yhwachs power comes from asspulling new powers though. You'd be right if we knew what he was capable of before he uses the to avoid certain death
What are Yhwach's abilities even? Yes, he can see the future, but how does that result in everything he's done?
>>139229207
But Ajimu has All Fiction and more.
>>139230019
Won't work. Yhwach doesn't age, he matures.
>>139237314
And becomes even stronger
>>139223781
Ywach is like that one friend you knew growing up that's imaginary super power was to "have all the powers".
There is really nothing that Kubo could write that isn't going to come across as cheap or out of left-field.
It will probably involve some sort of re-writing of reality power, or all the major war powers are going to combine for some 'infinity +1' attack, or some contrived coincidence, or Ywach will suddenly get contractual genre blindness at some crucial moment.
Its all really very silly at this point.
>>139226556
Maybe Yhwach went easy on him that time.
>>139226913
Pernida almost got his shit if not for Nemu's lolcancer.
>>139238474
In Bleach, the stronger you've become, the more likely you are to be defeated by your own hubris.
For all we know, it was the Soul Kings plan all along to get absorbed by Yhwach, and it's likely that the events leading up to this were construed by the Soul king from a fourth-dimensional perspective.
Thus it doesn't really matter how powerful any one character is in Bleach, even Yhwach.
>>139236827
They would still job to Medaka though.
>>139238856
I'll go ahead and put your vote down as contractual genre blindness at a crucial moment with a dash of contrived coincidence, then.
>>139239014
>contrived coincidence
Yhwach absorbing the Soul King seemed pretty deliberate, both from Yhwach's perspective as well as from a writer's standpoint.
Is Bleach still going on? Jesus, where does it get the popularity? It's been utter shit for hundreds of chapters now. Surely even the most devoted of retarded underage fans must be tired of it now.
>>139239541
Speaking of underage
>>139223781
Ichigo with whatever he pulls out of his nether region this time around
My guess is that we'll get some contrived scenario wherein Ichigo's quincy/shinigami/hollow combo allows him to be Ywach's kryptonite on some form or another, largely due to the fact that hollows have been confirmed to be toxic for regular quincies.
It allows a convenient and somewhat-foreshadowed scenario for a weaker Ichigo to still beat him. Kubo will still fuck it up though.
>>139239724
This reminded me of Peshe.
>infinite slick
>>139226546
He has the biggest cock so no.
No one. Everything he knows about is nullified and he's omniscient.
>>139223781
Yhwach has quite a few weaknesses actually. He can't see his father and anything related to him and he also can't see Uryuu. He also can't do anything against brute power, because even if he can see it, nothing will change. And also while Yhwach can see the future, he can't change it. It's unknown what excatly he sees, but there are hints that Yhwach sees his doom. Yhwach also has to sleep and switch powers at night, where he is considerably weaker. Yhwach is also prone to loose power as quickly as he gains it. So theoretically he could be weakened enough to be defeated. Haschwalth and other special Quincy could also be an issue for Yhwach.
It's telling that half wonder how Yhwach will be defeated and half wonder what will happen once he's defeated. Will what follows Yhwach's defeat be good or bad for Ichigo?
>>139229882
Saw an ichigo one once
Would be appropriate for this thread
No, he's the Apocalypse of Bleach.
>>139233420
Now as Tsikishima to the mix to make it even more confusing.
>>139240800
He's not actually omniscient, though.
Where is Bleach at anyways?
Is it close to the final act?
>>139242283
kubo said this will be the longest arc
so i guess 3 more years
>>139242195
Near omniscient. As the only thing he can't see is Ichigo's future.
>>139242283
This is the final arc but knowing Kubo it could last another 10 years
>>139242283
Manga like the big three conclude whenever the author feels like it, pretending there is a story arc with a definitive conclusion until they decide there is is a joke.
>>139223781
Madara.
>>139241866
But Apo is a total jobber.
>>139242743
Apocalypse if he was actually competent.
Yhwach has the same schtick and they're both essentially the same god.
>>139242348
He couldn't see Mimihagi either, which could be a fatal flaw considering he absorbed something into himself that is unaffected by The Almighty.
>>139242862
He simply cannot see beings that are like himself, so he tries to recruit them all.
>>139242918
Yes he 'recruited' the remains of the Soul King and Mimihagi, and it will likely bite him in the ass at a later point since he can't know how that action will affect his own future.
>>139243049
That is assuming the SK can reform himself inside Yhwach. He missed his chance to absorb the left arm as well.
>>139243108
For all we know, getting absorbed by Yhwach was his plan from the very start. We have no idea what level the Soul King's own omniscience operates on; everything Yhwach has done could very well be the Soul King's keikaku.
>>139232943
while ywach might not have plot armor, he certainly was asspulling.
he went from using auhswelen to revive his warriors to having the Almightly, all while not even revealing yama's bankai
>>139227908
he didn't admit that, he said he acts like he would.
>>139243314
Almighty was implied eons ago. Auswahlen was outright stated during Isshin's flashback.
>>139243422
it was only stated to bestow and take power, not distribute it to revive dead quincies.
>>139243498
The ability to freely distribute power was mentioned several times in the past and hinted to by several quincies.
>>139243314
>auhswelen
An ability that had been established much earlier in the arc, so not an asspull.
>the Almighty
An ability that had been hinted at since we had been introduced to Yhwach ("Are you perhaps, a prophet?") and makes sense for him to have since he's literally the Soul King's spawn.
I'm guessing you don't really know what 'asspull' means?
>>139243608
>>139243551
again it was never established to the point that he could ressurect people and bestow superior powers to the user, only that it would take them back during their deaths so that he could give them to other quincies.
>>139240499
I miss Peshe
>>139243760
They weren't dead and a reiatsu boost also boost recuperative abilities, evident in how arrancar regen when they release, or when Yumichika absorbs reiatsu with Ruri'iro Kujaku
>>139243760
Do you not understand what 'the ability to freely distribute power among the Quincies" means?
Quincies control Reishi, the basic building block for all spirit matter. Yhwach can redistribute this Reishi as he pleases using Auchwalen. There's no reason he wouldn't be able to bring back his own soldiers, given he takes sufficient Reishi from the others.
Are you retarded or something?
>>139243927
Quincies may have passive regen too. Ichigo and Yhwach definitely do, possibly Uryuu too. Uryuu is definitely more sturdy than he looks.
>>139243927
that was stated by the first victim of
Auswählen, which is far from establishing.
>>139244030
Fuck. No, they definitely do. At least the trueborn quincies. Remember how Quilge bent his head back in place after his neck was broken and twisted and legs were bent out of place too?
Another thing Kubo alludes to but never gets explained.
>>139244056
It was stated by Isshin six volumes before that even happened, you ignorant fuck.
>>139244056
yep
Kubo mentions some improtant thing once and then kinda forgets about it
>>139244288
again...that was only the death/life cycle he has when he sleeps. you just like running in circles don't you.
>>139244373
It was literally Yhwach redistributing the reishi of living Quincy to resurrect himself as per his own prophecy. I feel that at this point you're just enjoying your own ignorance.
>>139244124
That was Ransotengai. The thing Ishida used against Mayuri
>>139244493
That was Soul Absorption, a completely different ability from Auswählen, which only works in conjunction with Letter Empowement.
>>139244667
Except Isshin literally calls it Auchwalen and they are in principle the exact same thing; hell, I can even source it for you if you want, but considering you're entirely lacking in reading comprehension I doubt it will do you much good.
>>139244751
>in principle the same thing
yes that's why they were brought up separately and with completely different effects.
>>139244822
You're literally talking out your ass at this point, so if you have anything in the manga you'd like to source to contradict me then be my guest, because otherwise you have nothing left to argue. Did Kubo use different Kanji for Auschwalen the second time or something? Because otherwise they're still the exact same thing.
>>139244926
Chapter 565, page 8.
>>139244999
>Chapter doesn't make a single mention of Auchwalen
Do you even know what's being discussed right now? Auchwalen is first mentioned in chapter 537 and is the same ability used by Yhwach to revive his elites in chapter 604.
He's already invincible. He absorbed the power of the soul king, the left hand, and probably both legs. If Pernida really died, then it's power is automatically transferred to Ywach. The only thing he is missing is the heart. He easily tanked a top tier feet as an ant, so Ichigo would have to be massively overpowered to retarded levels to beat him. Even hax mean nothing to him and just tanks it before using his eyes to nullify all it's effects. The only way he's losing is the ultimate asspull or time travel.
>>139223781
If there is somebody who is capable of beating him, they'd have to basically be a God type character. I mean, Yhwach's power is literally called the Almighty and he just wins because he wins lol.
>>139245610
see >>139240923
or >>139238856
Powerlevels are inherently meaningless in Bleach, because character flaws will always trump whatever hax powers any one character has. For reference, see Aizen Sosuke.
>>139245667
>Yhwach's power is literally called the Almighty and he just wins because he wins lol.
That's not how it works; he can see his own future and therefore counter your next move, but there are other things he can't predict, mostly having to do with aspects of the Soul King.
>>139241866
That's a good comparison but I think Yhwach is more powerful than Apocalypse.
>>139223781
Just by the logical nature of causality, someone who can see the future can never lose (although they may not always win).
Only thing close to being as OP (although still not as strong) is traveling back in time (assuming there aren't multiple timelines).
>>139246232
Speaking of time I hope they make bookmark and his power have some sort of impact on the battle against Ywach.
He was shown in the soul society like 100 chapters or something ago implying he'd be relevant again. I wont get my hopes up though.
>>139228007
His eyes don't just let him see everything sans Soul King. They let him know everything. So Kyoka Suigetsu wouldn't work.
>>139246568
He may show up in a supporting role, similar to Yukio and Riruka had. By no means are any of the Fullbringers powerful enough to stand against Yhwach on their own.
