LOVE AND PEACE
It's "Rabbu an Piisu" you idiot.
>>139221233
watching in sub is a meme and you god damn know it.
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>>139221556
LOVE and PEACE
>>139221481
Claiming all anime from 1998-2004 is better dubbed is an even bigger meme. Adult Swim fags need to leave.
>>139221810
nice wrong opinion
>>139221810
>liking the trigun sub more than the dub
Next your going to tell me dragonball z sub is better than the dub.
>>139221810
cowboy bebop and trigun were better in english though.
>>139224557
Both Cowboy Bebop and Trigun had one major voice that people obsess over (the main male lead). But few people care to recall the myriad of bad secondary characters or one show characters. While in the original Japanese, the secondary characters also had good voices (as they were played by other well known seiyuu).
And I'm sorry, but Koichi Yamadera was still better than Steve Blum as Spike. And Masaya Onosaka is one of the best voice actors ever. There's no reason anyone should skip on hearing the voice of Onizuka in a Space Western.
Oh wait. You guys think Onizuka was better dubbed too. Wow...dubbing really did kill anime in the west.
>>139224557
>cowboy bebop
Yes.
>trigun
No.
>>139224770
fuck off, weeb. it's all personal opinions you are blinding yourself too because it isn't glorious nippon. kill yourself.
>>139224811
Fucking this.
>>139224557
>trigun
Only Wolfwood and Vash were good in the dub. Everyone else is laughably bad. Especially the villains.
Meryl and Milly's voice actors were shit.
>cowboy bebop
Spike was good, everyone else was shit.
>>139224820
>anyone who doesn't like muh glorious dubs is a weeb
Every time.
>>139224882
>having this shit of taste
>>139224903
You have no reading comprehension, do you?
Again, it is PERSONAL OPINION. But if you disregard the possibility a dub is good because it isn't japanese, you are a retarded weeb.
>>139224770
The voice for Faye completely ruined the dub of Cowboy Bebop for me. And it was soon after that I quit watching dubs entirely.
I also think the Japanese voice for Spike fits the role a lot better. His tone and acting just felt natural. Which he repeated as Togusa in Ghost in the Shell and made Togusa my favorite character in the show.
>>139224905
Dont get so buttblasted cause your favorite anime had shite english voice acting. Every anime does by the way. French and Spanish dubs are vastly superior.
>>139224964
>Again, it is PERSONAL OPINION.
Then why didn't you get mad at the three other people claiming that it was a fact that the dub is better?
>>139225037
because those are opinions. Stating dubs will never be better than subs is just fucking retarded.
>>139225069
>Stating dubs will never be better than subs is just common sense
Fixed that for you.
>>139224770
I actually agree with you. The main dub cast in Trigun are great, but the background and minor characters are awful. Kid Vash's shit voice acting ruined one of the best episodes of the series.
>>139221063
Go LOVE and PEACE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Wi6SWVmIw
>>139225069
>because those are opinions.
So when someone claims the dub is better, its just an 'opinion'. But when someone claims the sub is better than the dub, you get triggered and throw a fit. Understood.
>>139225185
nope, no matter how much you twist it, you are still a retarded weeb.
subs can be better than dubs. dubs can be better than subs and if you can't accept that possibility you need to kill yourself.
I mean, Steve Blum has a great voice, but its not THAT great. Also,
>That Western censorship
Yeah, stay mad dubfags.
>dubs vs subs ruining a perfectly good rabu ando peasu thread
>>139225258
It only took 3 posts for a dub shitter to ruin everything.
>>139225292
More like a sub shitter
>>139225215
>trying to claim the middle ground after calling someone a weeb
>>139225361
>Trying that hard to twist the subject.
yeah, get fucked and try again when you don't argue like a preteen.
>>139221810
This. Dubs are and will always be trash. Might as well westernize the entire animation style of the series if you watch it in something else than the original language.
>>139224557
>Trigun
no.
>>139225557
>get fucked and try again when you don't argue like a preteen.
>getting mad
>deflecting everything back at the poster while ignoring his points
>cussing because you think it makes your point stronger
>calling others weebs
Yeah...he's the one arguing like a preteen.
This thread is for love and peace only, all posts must pertain to love and peace or else your mother and I will be very disappointed in you. Now repeat.
RABU
ANDO
PIIIISU
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>>139225095
this. the villains sound like complete cornballs in the dub.
Honest to God I've always found that whatever I watch it in first is what I prefer. So InuYasha and FMA lots of shit I watched on Adult Swim back in high school.
Doesn't mean they're better. I watched the Fruits Basket dub, it's awful I know this but fuck if I don't love it.
I don't know senpai. Opinions and shit.
>>139221063
AMOR Y PAZ
>>139225728
>Honest to God I've always found that whatever I watch it in first is what I prefer.
That's how most people are. And why people still think back to the late 90s as the period when all the best dubs came out. Because its the first version they saw (usually syndicated on TV).
And since the amount of dubs began to decline after 2004, coupled with there being 1000x more anime series for free online, most people after 2004 prefer subs. Or those few people who got into anime before 1996 or so, when fansubs were the only real thing besides Voltron and Speed Racer reruns.
Four things you should never talk about online. Race, Religion, Politics and Subs vs Dubs.
>>139225802
>be in high school between 1998-2002
>all anyone talks about is dubs
>I'm that awkward kid who everyone shuns for preferring subs
>10 years later, all my friends watch subs and hate dubs
How do we fix this thread?
>>139226120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsWMjLWP5eE
>>139226120
With love and peace
>>139225639
>still trying to twist the point.
get fucked weeb, wail some more about how dubs will never be as good as your glorious nipponese.
>>139226120
With superior Nightow anime.
>>139226142
>MFW iv not see this in years but its still amazing.
>>139226165
>still trying to 'win' an argument you claimed was just about opinions
>still using the term weeb
Wow dude.
>>139224820
>Posts on /a/
>fuck off, web
Yea good luck with that
>>139226120
Talk about an anime that wasn't shown on Adult Swim.
>>139226187
>gungrave
>superior
Let's not kid ourselves, that went downhill fast when MC got resurrected as Hot Topic Cowboy. And Brandon Heat was too boring and serious. It's like someone took a Nightow series and sucked all the fun out of it.Harry should have been MC.
>>139226385
Harry literally ruined everything by becoming a power-hungry tyrant. He shouldn't have been the MC of anything. Brandon just wanted love and peace.
>>139226385
Yeah? Well Vash dresses according to deviantart's idea of cool. Bitch.
In all seriousness though, Gungrave is superior. I'd take thoughtful meditations on loyalty and ambition over pacifist cock being shoved down my throat any day. And I don't know why you say it goes downhill because that's exactly when the show gets wacky and fun like you enjoy.
>>139226604
>believing Big Daddy's delusions
>>139225226
Out of curiosity what was censored? I don't remember.
>>139226604
Brandon was a wet blanket.
>>139226796
>Well Vash dresses according to deviantart's idea of cool.
Hey, I won't disagree there but it predates it and maybe shaped it a little. And I think you're simplifying the way pacifism is used in Trigun like it's some kind of objective ideal but anyway, I don't have issue with Gungrave's themes at all, it just felt like a chore to watch for me because it had such a serious story but I found Brandon too dull to carry his share of the screentime.
>that's exactly when the show gets wacky and fun like you enjoy
But it felt jarring with the serious story they had been building and the way it was executed still felt too damn serious for all the silly shit that was going on. I'll concede that it may be an issue of personal preference since I tend to eschew heavy drama and mostly watched it for Nightow completion.
>>139226378
>guys it was on american tv
>fucking plebshit shows for plebs
>gaijins ruin everything
fucking. kill. yourself.
>>139227322
You seem assmad for some reason. Are you that dubfag from earlier?
>>139226120
>looks at pic
Whats Archer doing in Trigun?
Is this the gay thread?
>>139227322
The fact that you keep responding in anger is only proving the point.
>d-don't talk bad about my precious memories guys!
>>139227300
I wasn't being too serious about the pacifism part but I don't like how the show tried to paint Wolfwood as in the wrong. He made a rational decision in killing Zazie and the show tried to vilify him for it. I understand he could have tried harder to in the past but he didn't have the luxury of protagonist plot armor. It just left a bad taste in my mouth.
I didn't skip the first episode so it felt like it came around full circle for me. I can understand why it would be jarring for others. I do like Brandon, he was too pure for this world.
>>139226120
this only works as an OP image
>>139226120
Kill the spiders
>>139227639
>Archer
I don't see any spray on tan.
On the topic of dubs
I tried watching subbed Slayers, but god damn, Linna's voice in jap is fucking awful and annoying
It's the only anime I'm watching in english dub, and only because of the lead
>>139227681
why don't you come closer and find out
>>139228209
slayers dub is pretty solid desu
>>139221810
Agreed. Dubfags piss off.
>>139221810
Fuck off. Johnny Yong Bosch was GOAT.
Loved his calm gentle voice he gave Vash.
>>139227759
i always thought trigun was sort of a tongue-in-cheek parody of "pacifist" protagonists, and wolfwood's death was to show that you'd basically need to be an unkillable plant god like vash to survive with a no-kill rule.
You're all idiots. It's perfectly reasonable to prefer to watch something in it's intended language. If I told you the Italian Lion King dub was superior, would you skip out on watching it in English?
That said, dubs can be better (see Cromartie High). You should just try both if the dub is said to be good.
>>139228381
Since I speak Italian I would actually.
>>139228209
>Megumi Hayashibara is fucking awful
>>139228288
>Loved his calm gentle voice he gave Vash.
Are you baiting? The whole point is that Vash is not suppose to be calm and gentle. He's a crazy spaz who tries to make everything outrageous. Which is why he has the same voice actor as Onizuka, Aoki and Icchan.
>>139228209
>I tried watching subbed Slayers, but god damn, Linna's voice in jap is fucking awful and annoying
Funny. That's exactly how I think of Lisa Ortiz.
>It's the only anime I'm watching in english dub, and only because of the lead
So basically the same as most people who watch a dub. Just for one character they prefer.
>>139228476
You do realize there are times when Vash isn't being a spaz or perverted right?
Why do I even bother responding to something so obvious. Go watch the show again.
>>139228447
>actors are good or bad entirely as a whole, it is impossible for then to have individually better or worse performances
It's shit, deal with it.
>>139228612
>You do realize there are times when Vash isn't being a spaz or perverted right?
Yes. But he's most known for his bombastic personality. So I don't know why you prefer him for the few times he's being serious. Which the original Japanese actor did just as well.
>>139228665
I personally don't like Megumi Hayashibara's role as Lime in Saber Marionette. But I have yet to ever hear someone complain about Lina Inverse. Her most popular role tied with Rei in Eva.
>>139228549
Perhaps, you might be right
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>>139228740
>Not watching your Anime muted while playing Beethoven's Piano Sonata No.8 and No.19, or alternatively one of his many String Quartets.
>Having the nerve to watch anime on a screen any smaller than 60 inches and at anything less than 720p, without a glass of wine or champagne that is at least equal to or above the caliber of Dom Perignon.
>Thinking that you can truly understand the Japanese tongue before having seen the Cherry blossoms in person as they fall upon your cheek while you run in a rushed, yet gingerly manner with toast hanging out of your mouth.
>Thinking that any Anime made by a director that doesn't suffer from depression and works with animators that work less than 18 hours a day should even make it onto your palette let alone be worth your time to judge the audio quality and its various versions.
>Not understanding that Anime was a mistake from the start and that despite the preparations you should make before watching it, mentioned at the beginning of this post, started going downhill (in terms of overall quality) after 1918.
I knew I was among casuals, just not casuals of this bottom scrapping quality.
>>139229183
tl;dr
>>139229183
>watching anime
Nerd
>>139229183
>Beethoven
Opinion Discarded. Listen to real musical pieces and not overrated trash.
>>139229529
Beethoven might be normie shit known by everyone, but not even that can excuse you calling it trash