What does everyone feel about Madoka 3 Rebellion?
It would have been a wondrous place to end it all
>>139126313
I still hope the fourth movie gets canceled.
Rebellion had a perfect ending
A masterpiece.
'Human emotions are complex' -Homura/QB
On the surface it seems to fuck everything up, Madoka's wish and all. But in the middle of the movie, the Madoka without memory told Homura with all honesty that she is not happy if she's gonna to be isolated from everything she ever knew in order to be the world's savior.
Knowing this, Homura took the world as her enemy to pull Madoka back into the realm, back to everything that hold her dear.
There should never be a time of absolute good or evil, there must always be a balance.
What the incubators did were just that. They cause suffering to human girls in order to save the universe. Logically, very sound. But our human emotions tells us that this is not right.
Hence madoka acted.
There should never be a time of absolute good. Madoka's wish symbolized just that, a free pass of salvation of dying mahou shoujos, who took up all the misery of the world in order for others to live safely.
Her wish put the scale on a tilt towards one end, and in doing so all mahou shoujo lost their purpose.
There should never be a time of absolute evil either.
Homura's wish counters hers, tipping the scale back to neutral. By pulling madoka back into the realm, she introduced evil back into the world. Creating creatures call Wraiths(beings of evil) that act as what pre-Madoka wish mahou Shojou's purpose were, a collection of despair. In doing so, she also created a new purpose for the Mahou Shoujo, to defeat said evils.
Why you might ask did wraiths appear before Homura changed? Because Homura too transcend time.
Not only did she pull Madoka back into the place she belong, she did not displace herself.
She acts as the anchor that keeps Madoka in her place, and the balance doesn't tip to either side.
Hot garbage made for quick cash in
>>139126700
>quick
It took literally years to make
>>139126313
5deep10me
>Urobuchi: Some people deserve loneliness. I think Homura is one of those people. (laughs)
>>139126561
it's not even announced
>>139127164
But Homura is not alone, she did not remove herself from the world like Madoka did.
It was her selfishness at work, and it was allowed because she's the embodiment of evil.
Next for Mami san
>>139126313
I felt it was overwhelming and exhausting.
They really overused their visual style to the point it got repetitive and tiresome.
Also the original had a satisfying enough ending so the movie was unnecessary.
its cool
>>139126313
Best movie to have ever been made worldwide. The ending only lacked madohomu wedding.
Dem transformation tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F2KhA1Y1Dk
It shit on the series perfect ending for the sake of needless edginess.
>>139126313
It's a legit 10/10 movie.
>>139126764
It didnt
>>139127418
Call me a faggot but I prefer the old school mahou shoujo transformations. This grungy ino curry style looks fancy but it hides the fact that there's barely any character animation.
Shit like the all Madoka series.
>>139127723
Solid 6/10in base 7
>>139126700
This.
>>139127800
I watched only 2 series but no more. And i dont know what all find in this shit???? THE WIZARD GIRL? Or what?
>>139126313
I'm still pissed. The TV series ending was great why'd they have to ruin it?
>>139126313
Pretty good! Amazing Animation!I watched the movie at a theater 30 times.
BTW,Kevin-kun turned into a homosexual!>>27386147Do you think Madoka Magica impinged on his way of thinking? Also can the movie pack a wallop?Anyway, I'm proud of him now!
>>139128025
Dat image!
>>139127929
>This ass blasted
"B-but muh perfect ending"
Fuck off, a series is over when it the director decides it's over. Just pretend it never existed and evxisted else mature enough to accept the series moved on and may or may not have made a good decision in doing so will wait for movie 4.
>>139127690
2deep4u.
By being more 'Mahou Shoujo' it creates an air of unease and alienates the viewers, just like what you are feeling, towards the setting of the movie so far.
It was a well placed irony to tell an intelligent audience that something is off while the dumber ones panicked.
>>139126313
It was very fun. The beginning gave me what I (a some others) wanted, a SoL element. Cake song was especially cute. The bus scene was a little tedious as it was very lengthy. What was also great was what happened to Kyubey. Little reasons here and there. Soundtracks are amazing.
Eh, at least it looked good.
>>139128100
It dragged on a little too long.
>>139127929
I think >>139126692 gave a pretty good summary of the plot on a deeper level.
Or maybe Unobutcher just to have a wild ride.
>>139128068
>Fuck off, a series is over when it the director decides it's over
>defending milking a franchise
Just leaving this here..
>>139128174
>>139128124
>Cake song was especially cute.
It was magic rituals. I feel that it is a little scary.
>>139128174
>Critical thinking
>>139128206
>>139128229
>can't think of valid counter-arguments
>just scream "Reddit!"
>>139126692
A fun fact.
Towards the end when Kyouko was feeding the witch-birds and threw an apple at the witch-kids, Homura shook her head.
It was at that moment she decided how evil would interact with this world, not directly(Physically feeding evil) but on a more 'spiritual' level(aka wraiths), and in doing so, as you have said, gave the Mahou Shoujo a target as the salvation of the universe, and a meaning/purpose to their wish once again.
I liked it a lot. My only issue is the amount of time between it and the sequel was announced. I hate the whole 2deep4u argument, but the only people I see really angered by it are weebs with low comprehension skills. No one has to like it, but's it's a solid and fun movie.
>>139128148
>12 episodes and a movie
>MILKING
I hope you realize how autistic you sound.
>>139128324
That man took the lessons behind the tv version at face value, and did not see the real lesson of Rebellion.
Good and evil are subjective.
What the incubators saw as good was different from humans.
What Madoka saw as good was different from Homura's.
What Homura saw as good was different from the audience's.
By saying that what Homura did was a counter to everything the season stood for shows just how little he understood what Rebellion was about.
>>139128400
>series that clearly has a conclusive end
>movie obviously trying really hard to fit in the story and completely changing the characters
>>139126561
Fuck you, the original series had a bittersweet but satisfying ending.
Rebellion somehow manages to give all the girls good endings and yet still feel unsatisfied. Frankly I'd want nothing more than incubators or Madokami fucking up the world Homura created. Even if it meant giving them all a worse ending I don't give a shit. It's completely unsatisfying as is.
>>139128174
Why does every autistic weeaboo pretend to be a film critic?
>>139128412
>lessons
No such a thing.
Urobuchi's writing is about what happens to characters. Its about them. There are no lessons to be learned.
>>139127244
This, it's bullshit to say she's alone.
She never gave a shit about Madokami who understood what she went through, Homura wanted that naive ignorant Madoka and that's what she got. Now this ignorant Madoka whose been chained back to Plato's cave will clamor to be Homura's friend and the only thing stopping that from happening is Homura's own guilt of reducing a goddess to a high school girl who doesn't have a clue.
I liked it a lot. It could have used a little less fanservice though.
>>139128520
>little less fanservice
Then, the movie would be 10 minutes long.
>>139128520
QB shouldn't be naked all the time.
>>139128536
If you wanted to bait you should have said
>then there would be no movie content
>>139126313
Well, lots of anime are ripping off that art, so...
>>139128427
>Madoka is trapped in an existence described as being "worse than death"
>Madoka is stuck away from all of her friends and family for all eternity
>Madoka's character song describes how lonely she is and how much she wished someone had stopped her
>conclusive end
It really wasn't that conclusive. It was not a good ending for Madoka, simple as that. Homura couldn't have allowed things to stay as they did or else she would be acting completely out of character.
>>139128595
>Yugi's Bizarre Adventure
>>139128613
None of those happen in the series.
Series is actually quite opposite. Madoka is clearly content with result of her wish.
>>139128100
I don't think you understood what I said. I didn't like these particular transformations from a technical standpoint. Nothing to do with irony or tone.
I liked the original ending better. This once kind of makes me feel they were trying too hard to be 'edgy'.
>>139128613
Your pic is more than enough contradiction to your claim you fucking cancerous tripfag. She was not alone, as shown by Sayaka and Nagisa who still have their own independent self consciousness.
The majority of her friends are magical girls so she's going to reunite with most of her friends, family yeah that's one.
I fucking swear faggots like you only exist to tear down Madoka's actions as nothing more than a retard who was backed into a corner and made a wish without thinking.
>>139126313
Didnt bother watching. TV was bad enouth.
>>139127386
Not even better tna 20 of Detective Conan movies.
>>139128712
>>139128651
>>139128613
You guys are so misleaded its kinda sad.
To put it simply there's the Homura's truth and there's Universe's truth.
Homura's truth came from the confession of no-memory Madoka on how she'll be lonely if she's seperated from everyone she loved.
The universal truth is that Madoka is content with her wish and is not truly alone, as every shojo she saved from the past to the future became one with her.
Homura acted on her human emotion on what she believes to be right.
End of story.
>>139128793
This.
As >>139128492 have said. This is a story about characters.
>>139128651
What? All of those happen in the series. Mami says it would be a kinder fate to simply die than fight witches for all eternity.
And if you listen to Madoka's song she says she is lying when she says she is okay with everything. That was the ending song for the last two episodes I think so that is part of the series, no?
Here it is in case anyone doesn't remember it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__q9fsZa5vk
>>139128712
She has some megucas with her but that doesn't mean she is happy with everything. Listening to her dialogue from the concept movie implies that her heaven was not that good.
>>139128872
>Mami says it would be a kinder fate to simply die than fight witches for all eternity.
Yes. Mami, not Madoka.
> That was the ending song for the last two episodes I think so that is part of the series, no?
No. That was added on Blurays.
>>139128872
Didn't know the transcripts were out.
Just read them and you know what, fuck Madokami. Fuck her to death, I hope getting ripped in half fucking causes her godhood to be burned alive by some goddamn super-witch leaving just a skeletal corpse in a frilly dress floating through some higher dimension of existence.
Then it should bring all that negative energy to Earth and just flood the world with witches killing everything, I'm done caring about Madoka fucking Kaname. Fucking hell what a worthless piece of shit.
>>139128997
So just ignore it because it was in the blu rays and not the broadcast? The song itself is pretty incriminating, no? She is clearly talking about herself after becoming a god and she is clearly not happy about it.
>>139129036
Wow. What?
>>139129036
I kind of want Homura to come to this conclusion. Not only would it be great, but it would also make all the Madohomufags go jump off a cliff.
>>139129103
If heaven is so shit that the goddess herself doesn't even fucking like it then maybe magical girls are better off being a witch for at most a few centuries before a magical girl grants them oblivion through death.
Like holy shit, it seems everything that spewed out of that pink haired bitches mouth is lies. The whole magical space hug with Homura nothing more than bullshit that Madoka didn't even believe in.
Fuck her, hope getting split in half slowly kills her godhood and fucks over Homura with a wave of negative energy even she can't control.
>>139129347
We don't know if the souls of the other magical girls are actually trapped there forever like Madoka's is. If souls exist in this world then that would imply some form of afterlife, no? Maybe the other magical girls can move on eventually if they want.
Even if not though, being a witch was the worst kind of suffering, as shown by Homura's transformation in Rebellion. Madoka's heaven is much better than being a witch.
>>139126313
The only movie worth watching out of the 3. Go figure.
>>139129347
My God, you are as dense as you are insufferable. Madoka loves Homura, and Homura loves Madoka.
GET
OVER
IT
>>139129850
Great post, has nothing to do with anything fucking circlejerking cancer.
>>139129557
Like it fucking matters, two fucking years and all to show for it is more side story bullshit that only reinforces that Madoka is a lying cunt who was forced to make a wish by Walpurgisnacht and regrets every moment of it.
>>139130194
>circlejerking
Like what you are doing?
>>139126313
Personally, the movie shouldn't have happened as I was pretty satisfied with the ending of the anime.
>>139126313
Best thing of the franchise.
AI YO.
Clearly Rebellion has a lot to say and few anime or all of visual entertainment have dared to be so ambitious and for that alone, it deserves to be commended. Rebellion does have its critics and there are a good number of them.
Some of these critiques point to the characters that do not develop over the course of the series and the negative traits that Madoka possesses. To them, Rebellion is one of the most overrated anime of all time. I think these critics miss the point however.
I disagree in that the characters do not have any development. In fact, they are developed so well that there is so much to analyze as I have done here. No doubt they cite that the characters are all still messed up by the final act and they have not improved themselves.
But they fail to pay attention to the journey in between. Each of the characters do develop. Madoka becomes less of an introvert and opens up to her classmates; a change from the girl who was so unsure of herself from the start.
Homura also slowly becomes less introvert and starts questioning her loyalty to Kyuubey. These are flawed characters whom we can see some aspect of ourselves in. We go through up and downs in our lives never staying forever happy or sad.
We live through good times and bad times. Shaft was trying to portray the characters in that light. They experience ups and downs and the final act was merely a time where they were all messed up from something.
As I said before, Madoka is not the typical protagonist in that we do not aspire to be her. She is flawed and human and perhaps that is why people hate her so much.
One of the big critique is that Madoka is too much of a whiny wimp and not to mention she turns a girl into the Devil. But Madoka is just a fourteen year old girl who has been forced into an extraordinary situation.
How many of us could truly say went through the things he have and not come away harmed in some way. When all is said and done, Rebellion will forever be one of the more unique movies out there.
How many who have seen it can actually walk away and say that it was a movie like so many other.
In conclusion, Rebellion is an absolute masterpiece that will forever go down in history as one of the finest pieces of visual entertainment.that you owe it to yourself to watch.
>>139130194
So is Madohater going to be a thing now? Did I accidentally cause this?
>>139130633
Rebellion ruined Homura, Sayaka and Madoka. Kyouko barely existed in it. And Mami was there for the fanservice.
Balledoka a cute.
>>139128793
>The universal truth is that Madoka is content with her wish and is not truly alone, as every shojo she saved from the past to the future became one with her.
I suppose this is coming from your own personal experience as a non-existent conceptual being. Thanks for sharing the joys of godhood that I can't comprehend as a lowly mortal.
>>139126313
I feel these two needed more interaction.
This thread is now about Madoka's butt.
>>139131105
Burn!!
>>139126692
But wraiths were appeareing even before Rebellion.
I hope Madoka punches Whoremura in her ugly face and tells her she never loved her.
>>139131316
>>139131316
>>139126313
OTP
>>139131975
>>139132198
Nice bubble gum butt you got there whoredoka.
>>139131316
>>139131640
>>139131975
>>139132198
Pic related
>>139130980
Is the pic the front cover of Kirara Magica 25? I know the number is going to be by Ume Aoki. You are always quick to learn.When I was anon, I used to talk to you without any common knowledge of that we are Japanese with each other. Actually I don't hate you.
>>139130279
Yeah, except his is a circlejerk of one.
I wish it would end. The fanbase is the most cringeworthy I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with, and quite literally they don't even comprehend when I insult it. They eat this shit up. Fuck, I liked Madoka, but I bash on it more often than normal just because of these faggots
>>139132499
You're legitly an 11?
>>139132715
>I shit on shows I like just to piss off the fanbase
You are literally the cancer that's killing /a/.
>>139132715
You insult them and they ignore you? Sounds pretty based tbqh
>>139132856
>an 11
I don't like the term, but yeah! I'm Japanese.
>>139131316
>>139132856
Where are you from?
>>139133095
>something Homura will never receive because no one likes her.gif
I want to have sex with Sayaka and she's not even best girl. What do?
>>139133163
>>139133095
The same nation that decided to toast one of your cities on "Well done" and two more on "Extra crispy".;_;
>>139130980
Any better quality?
>>139128427
It's the series ending that completely changed Homura's character.
Rebellion is the story of Homura realizing how badly she fucked up and finding her old determination again.
>>139133352
I have mixed feelings about the United States.
>>139126313
I liked the 2nd half. Less disappointing than the third rebuild.
>>139133488
Believe me, I do too.
>>139133505
Finding out that your child is a meth-addicted prostitute would be less disappointing than 3.33.
I want Madoka to beat up Homura while other girls laugh, call Homura names and tell her that she's so ugly they wish she was never born.
>>139133488
They gave Japan animation and we learned to make it. Now you guys watch Anime.
>>139133739
Then Homura goes back in time to wipe her own existence, and everyone else goes back to the original timeline where they become dead witches with no salvation. Good job guys.
>>139133914
Making Homura cry is worth it.
>>139133684
Yikes!
>Mami will never scold you for being uncultured
>Mami will never step on you
>Mami will never let you play with her drills
>>139134695
I want to rape Kyubey
>>139133684
You have a point.
>>139126313
Obviously milking the franchise, but it's still good. Glad we will get to see more Madoka.
Will they ever become adults?
>>139135000Mami's Everyday Life.
>>139134820I'd like to drink your milk and want you to watch me more, if you know what I mean.
>>139135025
Don't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH6NB2F-Jcw
>>139135797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8i6xrPuPBE
There has probably been plenty of discussion already but what's the speculah about ballerina Madoka? Swan Lake reference? Madoka fighting evil with the power fo tutu?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A4YMnC6lNw
>>139135993
Rebellion is nutcracker reference, so it's obviously swan lake. That shows they don't have any ideas for a good sequel.
Also sequel is not even announced, it's really lame that people are waiting for it already.
So is the Wraith Arc manga canon or not? Homura's post-Season power being memory manipulation instead of time manipulation makes some things in Rebellion make more sense.
>>139136456
Not canon. Not made by shaft
>>139136408
>Sequel is not announced
>Multiple announcements in NewType and Kirara by Shinbo and a confirmation by the president if Aniplex
What more do you need? There's a difference between a set date and an announcement. The sequel has very much been announced. The date has not been set.
>>139136456
Canon in the same way The Different Story is. It's a look into the untouched areas of the series and fans will appreciate that, but is not required to follow the main story. The fact it's based off some unused material from the series and being done by Hanokage gives it more credence than the other spinoffs.
>>139128174
>>139131316
>the whole cosmos is up madoka's skirt
>>139136716
>Multiple announcements in NewType and Kirara by Shinbo and a confirmation by the president if Aniplex
>What more do you need?
You are missing announcement with advertising. How it can be announced when no one doesn't even know is it movie or series.
>>139128174
>Kyouko/Sayaka is fanservice
This fag
>>139137544
It's a film. The whole series is in movie form at this point. There's little reason to belive they'd suddenly go back to series at this point considering it's been 5 years since it was on the air.
>>139137544
>announcement with advertising
An annoucement is a form of advertising you pedactic fuck. There's no reason to doubt so many confirmations. Rebellion had the same had campiagn with closed trailers and Kirara announcements.
>>139126692
>Why you might ask did wraiths appear before Homura changed? Because Homura too transcend time.
Retarded
>>139141369
Go back to maintaining the universe Homura.
>>139141369
At least Homura is pro active and not a goddamn liar like that cunt Madoka. Fuck her, I'm glad Madoka is quite literally now a powerless ignorant school girl again. I hope her new life is completely meaningless, unfulfilled and never requires her to be responsible for another human being for the rest of her mortal life.
>>139139490
Rebellion (without title) was announced as finishing movie of the trilogy almost after series was released on bluray. Maybe I missed something, so link what we have now about next sequel.
>>139141858
Rude
>>139126313
Worst girl won.
Hopefully this'll be rectified in the upcoming project.
I miss all the Sayaka hate threads.
Time to invite the guest of honor.
>>139143234
I got you, bro.
>>139143234
I still hate her. I really hate her fans more, though.
>>139143398
Bottom pic never fails to make me laugh.
>>139143473
I don't hate her. I just thought those threads were the most entertaining.
>>139126313
I think the series was perfectly self-contained and the movie was completely unnecessary. Still enjoyable, but I felt it took away from the finality of the series conclusion and Homu's decision didn't mesh with her accepting Madoka's feelings at the end of the series.
>>139143574
I like women smiling and enjoying sex.
>>139143699
>>139143288
Black and Blue is fine too.
>>139143940
>being a namefag
>>139143614
>Homu's decision didn't mesh with her accepting Madoka's feelings at the end of the series.
At first, I thought that too, but rewatching the scene in the flower field there is plenty of evidence that Madoka's feelings aren't really so settled. There's also the fact that at the end of the series that Madoka still visits her family as Takkun was able to see her. Homura herself knows how difficult it is to protect the people you love without being able to truly interact with them. I think there was definitely enough to give Homura doubts about Madoka's wish being truly what she wanted. After how many magical girl have we seen truly satisfied with their wish with absolutely no regrets? Why should Madoka be any different?
Has a nigger ever tongued your anus?
I bet niggers have tongued Homura's anus.
>>139144210
Can someone post that pic of Nagisa sucking on Madoka's tit.
>>139144557
Nagisa is not like that, anon.
>>139144574
This is good too.
>>139127594
Yeah it did
>>139128492
Gen Urobuchi is the last person I feel like I need to learn any lessons from. Here's the only lesson from the movie, don't expect expect much from obvious cash-ins.
>>139144471
You need to know that everyone thinks you're a pathetic crybaby.
>>139128706
Clearly they came to the conclusion that the reason for the series popularity was the grimdark twist aspect and decided to base pretty much the entire concept of the movie around pulling that one off and adding a little new fanservicey design to Homura as a bonus. The people that hold this movie up as some example of deep artistic expression and ignore all it's pacing, characterization and storytelling flubs are just one of the things that's fucked up about the modern anime communities tastes.
>>139130633
And all of that's for nothing cause now the series is about Grimdark and ??? according to the movie. Sorry but when I'm reasonably clear on what your show is trying to do with it's characters and premise by the end of it all and how it all came together and then one feature length movie completely muddles all that to the point where I'm not even sure what the purpose of a franchise and it's characters are about you fucked up making it.
>>139132715
They're just so fucking pretentious and holier than thou but know jack shit about anything. They're about as bad as any fanbase for a major Aniplex backed franchise though. Fate, Monogatari, Erased, same levels of up their own ass basically. I mean I liked Madoka TV enough to give it an 8/10 but the circlejerk over it and how it's inflated everyone involved into these gods among the industry that they follow from series to series just endlessly praising is pretty insufferable
>>139137324
>memecenter.com
>>139143146
It wont, it's literally more Madoka thanking Homura for ripping her in half.
Fuck Madoka, and fuck this series for letting her have her cake and eat it too.
>>139145199
Fake anticrack-kun stop
>>139145821
What the fuck are you on about "crack"? Something you've been smoking?
>>139147903
He probably does already. So what the hell does he mean by "crack"? Does he mean a crack fic/crack pairing?
>>139148184
Lurk more
>>139148184
A buzzword.
>>139126313
I hated upon first watch, but then I realized it's better than the series and one of the true masterpieces of anime, on par with EoE.
It ruined the end of the TV show.
>>139148621
Red and Black in Rebellion was delicious.
>>139143398
Just realized her gem looks like a vagina.
>>139149039
Not just in Rebellion.
>>139128065
Source?
>>139129646
So are the first two.
>>139149290
>>139150721
>>139150662
HOLY Shit I am failing hard today.
why homuhomu so perfect?
>>139150772
Magenta on the left there is looking all smug because shaft drew her better than the MC.
>>139150820
homu a shit, literally the satan of the Madoka universe
>>139150930
Holy shit fuck off with that.
>>139149221
Technically it's the labia, clitoris and clitoral hood.
>>139150886
stay mad!
>>139151038
the power of Madoka compels you
begone, devil
>>139126313
homura is zarathustra and madoka is jesus
>>139149221
>>139150960
It looks like a C
you can't stop it
>>139151146
This Puella walks into the club and slaps your religious resignation to a socially-imposed value system: what do you do?
>>139151148
Why is it in the form of a C?
>>139151309
Remind her that she is a good girl who deserves love and eternal salvation.
>>139151309
Slay her.
>>139151140
impossible
The original series was clearly in need of a sequel; Homura's wish hadn't been fulfilled, and it could only be fulfilled by Madoka losing her godly powers or by Homura becoming more powerful than her.
Beyond that it got plenty of good scenes and all character arcs got sorted out.
In short I liked it.
>>139151366
Love and salvation are meaningful only insofar as they are matched by an equal depth of tragedy and despair
>>139151454
Better question, who mado here?
>>139151415
You can't kill the uberpuella, for the uberpuella is the universe itself.
>>139151536
No one. Madoka a Madoshit.
Just rewatched it for like the 20th time, holy fuck it's so good I'm about to cry.
>>139151454
kevin is attacking all homuhomus report in!
>>139151499
She literally threw herself into her own personal hell to save Madoka. Is that not enough?
Homura is a hero.
>>139151476
I mean, she just said she wanted to save Madoka, which she sort of ended up doing by strengthening Madoka's karmic destiny. The wish was definitely vague enough that you could say it was fulfilled.
Why is she so best, lads?
>>139151614
>when they kill god but replace it with entropy
>when they kill god but replace it with the law of the cycle
>>139150960
Well yea but if I said it looks like clitorus most of /a/ would go, the fuck is that?
>>139151705
Pre-witch Homu is best Homu.
>>139151647
Love is not hell; it is above distinctions between heaven and hell, good or bad. homu is the expression of universal will to power, and its transcendence of the slave morality of madoka or the incubators. Heaven and hell are the thesis and antithesis to the synthesis which is Homura's love.
>>139151737
We're mostly little girls here.
>>139151659
Nope! She wished to redo her meeting with Madoka and instead of being protected by her she wanted to be the one protect her.
She obviously weren't protecting Madoka by the end of the series; you could on the other hand say that Madoka still was protecting her.
>>139151779
best taste
>>139151835
True but little girls have no idea what's down there other than "that's dirty".
>>139151309
Have my wife Madoka slap her back and call her a cunt!
>>139151366
She deserves death and suffering in hell, alone and forgotten.
>>139151454
Literally no one.
>>139151467
Madoka hates her.
>>139151499
Madoka never loved Homura. Homura is pure evil and has only ever hurt others in the name of her obsession. She will die.
>>139151536
Everyone.
>>139151576
Homura is just a fucking shitty bitch who will die at the goddess' hands.
>>139151607
It's a shit movie full of retcons and character assassination and no plot.
>>139151614
Nobody. She is most hated character.
>>139151647
She wanted to make Madoka her property. She doesn't care about Madoka.
>>139151705
Worst.
>>139151807
Homura loves no one. She's an obsessed hateful cunt.
>>139151838
Obsession to own.
>>139151867
Shit taste.
any weiss here?
>>139151576
She didn't create the Universe over, you know?
>>139151807
>when you drain your despair of the moral venom of ressentiment and use it as a catalyst for self-overcoming and amor fati
Madoka will redeem Homura and forgive her of her sins.
>>139151995
Removing a natural law of the universe from its place of agency is tantamount to recreating the universe.
>>139152053
That which is a sin for the herd is an ornament for the human.
>>139151838
You could say that she was able to protect Madoka up until Madoka made the correct wish. The wishes aren't necessarily permanent.
>>139152053
With death and hate. Madoka hates Homura.
>>139152057
All she did was restrict the law, not remove it. That's why Madoka could start to break away so easily.
Kyouko a cute! A CUTE!
>>139152244
I said "remove from its place of agency". If that wasn't literally what she did, the law of the cycle would still be in effect.
>>139151314
Probably music stuff.
>>139151314
>>139151148
Maybe Sayaka is a programmer?
>>139151309
I don't know what most of that means. I would probably just hug her.
>>139151926
>when the slaves start yapping
>>139152513
Sje should have been bullied before anyone like Madoka met her so she would have done the world a favor by killing herself.
>>139152513
At best she created a labyrinth. Nothing more, nothing less.
>>139152688
Where are you getting that? She's not a witch.
>>139152513
I want to sexually bully Homura.
>>139152751
Why? She's ugly.
>>139152750
Isn't her entire universe just a big ass witch labyrinth. That's why her familiars are seen running around.
>>139152777
Homura is no longer a subject to which your aesthetic predicates can be said to meaningfully apply.
>>139152750
>She's not a witch
>This is what homufags believe.
top kek
>>139152940
Madoka never loved her ugly, hateful soul.
>>139152751
never
>>139152777
go away sayaka
>>139152903
No, she doesn't have a grief seed or a soul gem anymore. The universe is a literal metaphysical manifestation of her love facilitated by the projection of her self into her isolated soul gem during the process of witchification, allowing her real-world self to maintain its agency without the constraints of being a witch or a puella, but with power greater than both.
>>139152981
A witch is a puella who's soul gem has turned to a grief seed: Homu has none of these things. You must be using a non-canonical definition.
>>139152981
She's a bitch.
>>139153101
Her soul gem has turned into something that's no longer a soul gem. She has gone beyond a normal witch. She's now a Super Witch.
>>139153065
Homu became a witch within her own soulgem: outside of it, her actual soulgem is reforged into an expression of the synthesis of despair from within the gem and her love of madoka from without: an expression of unrestricted life.
