>halfway through the first season
>you'll never have a perfect girl such as her interested in you
I want to die. Does the show feature more fleshing out and development later on or will it just keep dangling in front of me what I'll never have
>>139080144
>perfect
>>139080347
Well, there's also Yui who's so cute that I wonder why she doesn't have any friends. And why she seems to like 8man, she could have just any guy she wishes for.
>perfect
Yeah, about that.
>>139080144
well in the LN its still dangling so yea
>>139080815
Would you refuse her as a gf?
>>139081808
Depends on my chances with her sister.
>>139081849
Don't get me started on her sister, she's even more perfect. This anime is so depressing. Imagine the bliss of having a girlfriend that great.
>>139082084
>he doesn't know
>>139082202
That's what I was asking, does the show just torture you by showing you the perfection you'll never get to cuddle or do the girls get flaws too? If it's the former, I won't survive this
>>139082275
Every character in the series is heavily flawed. Those flaws are controversial, which is why the series gets so much discussion.
As for what those flaws are, you should have seen some of them already. And by that I mean it's incredibly obvious.
>>139082202
That Haruno is perfection incarnate?
>>139082334
>hachiman a shit on all levels
>yukino is a bit cold, but a man worthy enough who could make her fall for him would be the luckiest guy in the world because of her looks and beauty alone
>yui is a bit shy, but deep down a good girl who oculd never mean anyone harm. the guy who saves her will also be the luckiest
>>139082475
>Saika is generally a boy, but suffers from femininity and troubles for undetermined sexual orientation
>>139083245
Well fuck Saika, feminine guys get no love
>>139084537
except from 8man
other girls confide in Saika
Why would I want to date someone that's even more autistic than me?
>>139084598
Imagine the sex, she looks so perfect and is always honest
>>139084629
>cold tuna
>>139084685
A body like that can't produce bad sex
>>139084784
>fucking a still-warm corpse
>>139084948
>implying she's not kinky deep inside
>>139080144
>perfect girl such as her
perfect drama queen. also shit taste.
>>139085955
Even if it's not her, there are other girls in the show who seem to be interested in a shitstain such as 8man. While I think the show is kinda fun, it just drills in the "I'll never get to know/have interested in me such perfect girls".
>>139080144
>Yukino falls in love with 8man but she has tons of baggage
>Yui has mental problems too and almost obsessed with 8man
>Both of them are complete drama queens that turn 8man's life into a living hell
>Saki and Tousaka seem to be the only people who like 8man and aren't fucked up
Never forget about the cutest cough in the history of anime.
>>139087796
It'll be interesting to see if Yui really does go her own way if Yukino and Hachiman get together. Evidence suggests yes she will. She already did early in the series when she thought they were dating.
Haruno mentions to Yui that other girls have tried to be Yukino's friend in the past but they always get jealous and distance themselves Yui adamantly states she won't do that, but whether she will or not remains to be seen.
>>139080144
>perfect
That's not sensei.
>>139088563
>>139088494
I have a really bad feeling that the girl 8man doesn't choose will not be part of his life anymore. I don't want that personally, friends end is where it is at.
I don't know what will become of Yui and Yukino's friendship. They aren't actually close at all but they care about eachother. I don't want to think 8man will hurt their relationship so I will side with Yui's promise. One alarming thing is Yui only joined the club for 8man and made that promise when she thought there would never be anything between Yukino and 8man.
>>139089083
8man will try that with them but they'll both force him to choose. Choosing neither is another way for him to inflict pain on himself like his previous solutions for problems. They will recognize this and call him out on it, forcing his hand.
>>139089083
There's a painful separation. Maybe more than one. Yui/Yukino are going to separate and if Yukino/Hachiman happens it may end as well when they go separate ways after high school.
>>139086055
>in a shitstain such as 8man
do you even watch this show? 8man is the most alpha among everyone there. that said, 8man deserves none of these 3dpd girls. they are just a mental poison to him.
He needs to return to his slice of heaven (S1E3) and stop with the bullshit drama from both YY.
>>139080347
>>139080815
She's still perfect.
>>139089477
>his slice of heaven
The wind has abandoned him.
>>139080144
>tfw you will never have a saika gf
>>139089370
But if 8man picks Yui then Yukino won't leave him or Yui. I hope. Sure they will eventually split up but there is no reason to break one of their hearts.
>>139089298
How could they force him to choose? He is bigger than them. Choosing neither would probably hurt him the least since he won't lose one and he won't have to hurt someone he cares about.
Are we even sure the girls want him to choose? Maybe they won't pursue and keep their respective feelings to themselves. I doubt both have their eyes on an end with him.
>>139089984
But he wants to grow up to be a manly man, and a nurse.
>>139089838
no, he abandoned the wind. he foolishly stepped down from his heaven thinking the 3dpd world below is better.
I blame sensei. who in the right mind would put two malfunctioning students in a single room?
>>139090302
A negative times a negative makes a positive.
>>139090908
Yukino is not in love with 8man and he doesn't love her. He loves max coffee and she loves Pan-san.
>>139089370
They'll probably go all to the same college Haruno goes. It's so obvious.
>>139090969
We need more tiny Yukinos.
she gets worse at the end of the first season and the entirety of the 2nd season
>>139091395
>Yukino is not in love with 8man
This. There isn't any evidence of it besides memes.
>>139092129
>she gets worse at the end of the first season
>When she finally stands up for herself
>Treats Hachiman much nicer
>Starts becoming derenon
End of S1 Yukino is probably the best one.
>>139090908
>>139090969
You look like youhave something on your mind, Hikigaya-kun.Also, Hayamin.
>>139080144
People with such shit taste as yours are the reason why Oregairu turned as shitty as crap like Nisekoi, if not worse.
Everyfuckingbody forcing MC and Mary Sue girl together, out of nowhere, especially in the second half of this series. Pathetic. It feels weird. Artificial. Planned. It shouldn't be like that. Genuine my ass, the whole story turned to something so fake and trivial and cliché that it seems the parody of itself.
>>139092303
>Mary Sue girl
>the girl with the most baggage who we already know isn't perfect
>>139092231
She is ruined in season two. She falls in love with Yui's property and has the audacity to eye rape him.
>>139092591
Does Yui know that Yukinon left with her Hikki in the middle of the night to go eat ramen and stop at a love hotel?
>>139080144
You haven't even met Iroha yet
>>139080815
Bullies threw paint on her hair?
>>139080144
>you'll never have a perfect girl such as her interested in you
I do
>>139080144
>I want to die.
Yep, sounds like the average member of the Yahari fanbase!
>>139080144
>Autistic cold fish with inferiority complex
>perfect
Take one.
>2nd season character design better than 1st
Yui, Haruno, Shizuka
>2nd season character design worse than 1st
Yukino, Komachi, Saki
Can we agree on this?
>>139093321
Both.
>>139093284
Well, when you don't have a gf your life just sucks.
>>139093321
Look at the beauty and the elegance tho.
It’s the usual tea-time
Even if it is just casual talk
Everything that you have ever said, I remember it all
I wasn’t able to be honest
Because of those feelings that I pushed away
All of those are really precious to me
The countless times that I looked at that same photo
I break out into a smile ever so naturally
Here’s a crescendo to you right now
Bringing out all those feelings that I could no longer hide
Let’s go to the future that I desire.
In that instant when our eyes met
My chest overflows with that gentle scene
That was gently wrapped by the dusk
Probably, the one who’s enchanted by you
is me who is right here (waiting for you)
That time when I pulled at your sleeve
I poured my wish into those words, “Someday…”
Something is beginning to change
Lapsing into silence unexpectedly
those thoughts that gradually approaches me
That sort of scene is right here too
I don’t know, (that’s why) I want to know
I am searching for (what you are) searching for as well
A high pitched pizzicato
My heart is clamoring from these unusual expectations
I hugged the stuffed toy tightly
If I can overcome these countless sleepless nights,
I wonder if that means I can go and welcome the future as the new us.
I see you right now
and I feel as though you are right beside me
Here’s a crescendo to you right now
Bringing out all those feelings that I could no longer hide
Let’s go to the future that I desire
In that instant when our eyes meet
My chest overflows with that gentle scene
I will never forget it
I want to be right next to you
Once these feelings get to you, I wonder what will happen
I want to be just a little closer to you
In the usual place, I pour my feelings into a new cup
So that you will notice me someday
Indeed, I am enchanted by you
(Know that) I am right here (waiting for you)
I hid it behind my usual chatter
These feelings of mine, maybe you have noticed it as well
Because it was just the two of us all of a sudden
The defenseless words, came rushing out of me
This important place, you protected it
I know too, that you tried your best
That unkempt hair, that cold voice
I want it to remain like this, for just a little more
You are here with me. When I am together with you,
I feel happy, but I am still a little sad.
The happy ending is so near yet I keep going back and forth, never reaching it
Please look this way; It doesn’t matter when you do.
At the corridor where the setting sun shone onto
The words that reached me from behind
You remembered our promise
I thought about it for just a little bit, and
if you noticed, the time that we have spent together
and our memories too increases day by day
The times when you weren’t honest, that clumsy smile of yours as well
I want it all, but then…
I used all my strength yet it still wasn’t enough. My heart is clamoring.
It won’t come true? Even so, I still want to be together
When I am with you, I am extremely happy, but,
I know that the distance between us is beginning to change.
Just like that snowy day when we rode the Ferris Wheel
I want it to remain like that forever
I decided then that I wouldn’t give up.
Unfair as it may be, but I won’t do it any other way
I want it to become a happy ending.
I don’t want to lose it all
I really want to be the one who’s closest to you
You are here with me. When I am together with you,
I am happy but then again, it really hurts just as I expected it to.
I am so close to that happy ending, going to and fro from it.
I noticed this feeling, I will bring it out
(The distance that is) beginning to change. I will cross that distance.
>>139093735
Yukino's character song: A Crescendo to You
>>139093882
Yui's character song: Near the Happy Ending
>>139080144Same, old triangle open ending.
>>139093735
Looks like Yukino has given up on 8man and will not pursue romance. Heavy friendship vibes from that song.
>>139093882
>I really want to be the one who’s closest to you
>(The distance that is) beginning to change. I will cross that distance.
I thought Yui gave up.
>>139094411
>Heavy friendship vibes from that song.
I don't give a fuck who you are but you go to your best friend and tell her you love her.
Literally just started this last night and i'm on ep 07 of season 2.
What are other shows like this? I liked White Album 2 if that helps
We're only going to see the beginning of their relationship, aren't we? This series seems like it's going to end before they actually do lovey dovey things.
>>139094810
This is not at all like White Album 2. There is no love triangle between friends, only friendship.
>>139094630
I don't get your point. Why would I tell someone who is my friend that I love her? Yukino is 8man's friend and she wants friendship with him. She is enchanted by friendship. See >>139095007's pic.
>yukinoSHITa
>perfect
gr8 b8 m8
I hate his jaw
>>139080144
The true tragedy is that best girl is a completely irrelevant side character
>>139095230
No the true tragedy is that Watari originally had something bigger planned for her but forgot all about her.
That's why he makes all the Kawasomething jokes.
>>139095082
>>139095082
>There is no love triangle between friends, only friendship.
Are you serious? Doesn't seem to be panning out that way. Orange haired girls seems to have feelings that go past friendship with the MC. Guess I'll finish and find out for myself.
>>139095293
Don't listen to him. The orenge haired girl is insane for him and Yukino is starting to come around.
At this point Yukino's victory is guaranteed and she's just about on her victory lap.
The question isn't what happens to Yui (her heart gets ripped out and pissed on of course), Iroha (fades into irrelevance), or Haruno (makes peace with her sister then secretly resents her for having 8man for the rest of their lives).
The question is just how badly is 8man going to crush that pussy when he finally gets a chance?
>>139095957
>and she's just about on her victory lap
I'm probably one of the few people that finds Yukino hilarious. Adorable and hilarious. If I were Hachiman I'd have way more fun with her.
>>139096638
Season 2 then White Album 2.
>>139093238
Oh shit /a/non
Do tell
Accelerator has no feelings for LO.
>>139095957
>her heart gets ripped out and pissed on of course
Is Yukino even willing to do that to her? We don't know if she is all aboard the 8man train.
>>139099299
At this point we know she is choo choo-ing full speed ahead straight to Hachiman, damn all the consequences.
>>139084685
>>139099342
How do you know that?
>>139099342
Yukino only wants a future by his side, wants to have the courage to tell him something, and is enchanted by him. That doesn't mean she is all in on 8man.
Why have they still not exchanged cell phone info?
I despise Yukino and I find the idea she likes 8man to be upsetting. This would be a good romance story without much drama if shitty old Yukino didn't ruin it by pretending to like 8man. What will she do to take responsibility if he starts to like her and dumps his Yui?
>when she doesn't win the genuine
>when she wins the genuine
>>139080522
eh? Yui is in the top tier school clique, also is friends with Totsuka. In fact, one problem she has is running off to be with her clique, leaving Hachiman and Yukino to get closer. She sank her own ship
>>139101953
Sup Yuipollfag, I hope you're looking forward to volume 12 as much as I am.
>>139102470
But he is right, she could easily rope in a guy that is way better than 8man.
>>139088274
my fuckingheart
>>139101631
The "Request" might indeed have that as one of its many details
>>139102588
better how? Hachiman actually works hard on projects, works hard on the school subjects for his college path, got two student councils on the right track, has good looks though has rotten outlook that shows in his eyes.
Yui meanwhile stupid, doesn't study seriously, has no plans for future other than grabbing a man.
Really it's Yui that is beneath him
>>139103217
>Really it's Yui that is beneath him
You know, when I think about it, that's actually incredibly true.
>>139103217
>has no plans for future other than grabbing a man
When did she say that? She only seems interested in 8man but it isn't like she is going to follow him through high school and into college.
>>139096680
I was the anon who posted earlier about already watching White Album 2. need something else
>>139103437
> it isn't like she is going to follow him through high school and into college
You sure about that? I mean she might not be able to get into the same college as Hachiman but I think she'd stay by his side all the way if she could.
>>139103326
Yui is pretty useless outside of her good looks and her top tier body. The only other good trait she really has is she is a really sweet person. Imagine how much worse her life would be if she wasn't pretty?
>>139103697
She's not even that pretty honestly.
>>139103820
she's cute and cheerful, even if it is forced
>>139103697
What depresses me the most is that these girls are so unfathomably pretty. Reality can only disappoint from now on
>>139103820
She is good looking enough that she is popular with guys and is in the popular clique.
Do you just not like Yui? I mean it is fine if you don't. Sure she isn't Yukino pretty but she is quite cute.
>>139102470
While she hangs out with the cool kids, none of them actually seem to be her friends at all.
In fact it seems like a lot of them don't even like each other. It's like that episode where we learn all of Chads friends aren't friends.
>>139080347
filename on point
>>139104270
Yeah, she seems to be in this limbo of being neither explicitly liked nor explicitly hated. More like tolerated. I've been there, it sucks.
>>139103697
"If you weren't x, you'd suck" is something bitter people go on about.
>>139103517
She isn't that desperate for Hikki's 8 inch Hikki. I don't see her following him around if he got a woman. I don't think she would follow him after high school because if nothing else she would confront him before then.
You really think Yui would be by 8man's side for years looking at him with "please love me" eyes?
>>139104270
>>139104446
As the story goes along it seems like she gets closer to Yumiko and Ebina seems to like her more. She seems like she is legit friends with Tobe.
It's just random luck that Yui was allowed into Hayama's clique. Miura took a liking to her for whatever reason so she as permitted in. Similar to Ebina. Most likely both exist in Miura's mind to make her look better.
That being said she is considered pretty in the story, it is mentioned at times that she is desired by other guys, and even if she wasn't in Hayama's clique she would still have friends and not be a loner.
>>139104544
If he got with someone else, sure. But if he picked Yui she would certainly try to stay by his side.
>>139087687
8man blew it when he became part of a group.
> I like in-fighting because I'm not in
>>139104629
Well yeah if he picked her she probably would latch on and not let go. I am talking about a case in which Yui is not rejected by 8man but he doesn't date another girl.
>>139104739
That's not going to happen. This ambiguity is going to end. We can be assured of it. One way or the other, Yui is going to know where she stand very soon.
>>139104254
>Do you just not like Yui?
Nah, I just don't find her pretty is all.
Are Yui and Yukino likely to 'experiment'?
>>139104782
>That's not going to happen.
Yui and Yukino are complete cowards with their feelings. 8man will have to get the ball rolling and god knows he can't into romance. The is strong evidence to suggest that they both want something more from him but I don't see the evidence that they want to do it themselves.
>This ambiguity is going to end.
If it does the club might not survive. The ambitious end makes for a dramaless end.
>We can be assured of it.
8man is willing to see Yukino's problem and that Yui is not a nice girl but is he willing to tackle a love triangle?
>Yui is going to know where she stand very soon.
Only if WW goes the romance route. Otherwise Yui is staying in her position.
>>139105028
I see. Well, I think she is cute but we all have are own tastes.
>>139105695
> Yui and Yukino are complete cowards with their feelings
Yui is. I suspect Yukino has made a decisive turn at the end of vol 11 based on her attitude there and the character song. But it seems like the end of the last volume drives home the point that Hachiman won't accept an ambiguous status quo. One way or the other, it's all going to come out.
>>139105968
>Yui is
Her character song and the duet makes me thing she wants to move forward regardless as well.
I wonder how it will go for these three once everything is out in the open. I like to think it will be tame and accepting of what happens with very little hurt feelings. The novel does hint that it won't be too bad.
>>139106479
Not too bad. quick. just a brief moment of suffering for Yui.
>>139105968
>I suspect Yukino has made a decisive turn at the end of vol 11 based on her attitude there and the character song.
Why do you suspect that? I got the impression she is going to work on herself.
>>139106959
> I got the impression she is going to work on herself.
Telling Hachiman how she feels is part of that.
>>139107007
What does her little crush on some boy have to do with improving herself?
>>139107903
It has everything to do with it. Yukino's problem is that she won't stand up for herself, she won't assert herself.
All vol 11 she's carrying those cookies for him and just can't bring herself to give them to him. She knows how she feels about Hachiman. She has to tell him. She needs to tell him. Regardless of what comes from it.
>>139107972
While what you said is absolutely correct, you have to understand that the person you're arguing with is going to continue being a retard and continuing to argue with him is a waste of time.
I want to have Saika nurse as gf
Yukino only trusts 8man and respects him. She wants his friendship. You can't very well bear the children of someone you don't trust and can't get along with.
>>139107972
Couldn't this be achieved by saying "chill the fuck out mom jesus christ" and "stop being a cunt Nee-san"? Telling 8man about her crush and alienating her only friend is not really going to help.
>All vol 11 she's carrying those cookies for him and just can't bring herself to give them to him.
Maybe she is second guessing her feelings? Maybe she just wanted to give him a gift but made too much of a big deal of it in her head, like she started to overthink it and thought that cookies = confession. I really didn't get this, 8man would have been quite happy to receive her treats and wouldn't think too much of it.
>>139108251
You appear to be right.
Yukino is the only anime girl that made me want a divorce from my waifu (i had my waifu for more than 10 years when i met Yukino for the first time).
She is truly a 10/10 choice.
>>139108251
>>139109864
I am just saying that confessing isn't a step in the path to help herself. For all we know the second she lets her feelings be known.to him he will fly off to denial land.
>>139109797
Yukino is in love with him and they're at a point where they could be considered friends.
However admitting those feelings to him could make thing end awkwardly for them and they can't be friends anymore.
Before you say "but why would he have any reason to reject her?" remember that Hachiman did tell her that he would never be attracted to someone like her when they first met.
>>139110042
Also what will Yukino do if 8man knows the her, understands her, knows how she feels, and still rejects her? That will probably have a negative impact on her.
>>139110042
It is most certainly a step to helping herself. How he reacts to it is irrelevant.
What Yukino has to do is reach out and take the future she wants. Her own character song references this:
> Let’s go to the future that I desire.
And because you'd have to be an imbecile to listen to her song and think that she doesn't have real feelings for Hachiman, then he is a part of that future she wants.
But wanting something and being able to have it are different. Even if Hachiman rejects her, what matters most is that she takes that step and goes for it.
If by some chance you are really unable to grasp this, then you have truly not understood a significant part of Yukino's character and development.
>>139110184
>Yukino is in love with him and they're at a point where they could be considered friends.
Love is a steep word, she is probably attracted to him but hormones are raging.
>However admitting those feelings to him could make thing end awkwardly for them and they can't be friends anymore.
Why not? She says "I like you" and he says "sorry" they aren't going to magically stop caring about eachother. The awkwardness will pass and they can still be friends. Romance doesn't poison a friendship, they can work together and interact.
> Hachiman did tell her that he would never be attracted to someone like her when they first met.
Come on man, you can't trust 8man. Yukino isn't so sensitive to remember that and to take it to heart too.
I am saying he would accept her treats without really batting an eye, he would not take the as "I love you" treats. She just made mountains out of molehills.
>>139110244
>What Yukino has to do is reach out and take the future she wants.
Telling her mother and sister to chill helps more than telling 8man that she fancies him.
> then he is a part of that future she wants.
She is just curious about the future she will have with him. What she wants we don't actually know.
>It is most certainly a step to helping herself. How he reacts to it is irrelevant.
Picking your battles is a good trait. If she thinks it is a lost cause with 8man or if she feels that it is better to differ to Yui that doesn't detract from herself. Her character is not tied to a crush she has on 8man.
>what matters most is that she takes that step and goes for it.
Naw, if he rejects her it would be like pouring water on her new self. It would only help her move past her crush but not the overall problem.
Are we really sure 8man is what Yukino wants? He is already there, as is Yui.
>>139111049
>as is Yui.
I don't really think Yui and Yukino really give a fuck anymore about that. It seems to me their friendship has nothing to do with romance with Pan-san.
>>139111049
> Are we really sure 8man is what Yukino wants?
Yes, among other things.
>>139111287
He has been there for about 10 months now, what more can she want.
Guys, I'm going to say this for your own good, but stop arguing with this anon
>>139111049
It is clear as day he has no idea what he is talking about. You'll save yourself a lot of headache.
What is the point of underplaying Yui's feeling and/or Yukino's feelings for 8man? Anyone who read vol 11 knows they like him way more than a simple crush.
Saika-fag reporting
and where are Saki-fags these days?
i missed them
>>139111770
I don't get why you are saying I am wrong. My point is Yukino doesn't have to let her feelings for 8man be known for her to progress.
>>139112115
I am not downplaying anything. Yukino has a crush. Yui is in deep love however so I agree with you on that part.
>>139090381
>multiplying
>not adding both negatives
>>139112795
>I am not downplaying anything.
>she is probably attracted to him but hormones are raging
>Maybe she is second guessing her feelings?
>Are we really sure 8man is what Yukino wants?
Right, you're clearly not.
>>139113200
>adding people
People multiply.
>that ending
WHAT THE FUCK???
Will there be a season 3?
>people still treat character songs as canon
>>139113391
Newsflash: Yukino isn't that into 8man and we don't know if her feelings mean much to her.
>>139114365
This. It is just bullshit that is intended to sell to fans. WW had little to do with it.
>>139114270
What were your impressions of what occurred?
>>139114365
Well I guess YY aren't interested in pursuing 8man, Iroha's heart isn't swayed by Hachiman, Hiratsuka has no regrets, Komachi isn't interested in living a life of her own without her brother, and Saika's doesn't care about his friendship with 8man.
>>139114958
>Well I guess YY aren't interested in pursuing 8man
Yui is, Yukino isn't.
>Iroha's heart isn't swayed by Hachiman
Iroha likes Hayama
>Hiratsuka has no regrets
We don't really know.
>Komachi isn't interested in living a life of her own without her brother
She has said she isn't going to look after him forever in the story.
>Saika's doesn't care about his friendship with 8man.
He does. A song has nothing to do with it though.
>>139115271
So you're just flat out ignoring the fact that Watari also took part in the song writing process right?
>>139114885
>Newsflash: Yukino isn't that into 8man and we don't know if her feelings mean much to her.
> Yui is in deep love however
What makes you so certain that Yui is so madly in love with Hachi but Yukino is just a crush? Going by your logic and setting aside the character songs, Ok?
>>139114885
All three of them are gigantic pussies. You would think after the amount of time they've spent together they'd be able to articulate their feelings for each other better but only Yui was able to even attempt it.
That being said Yukino's sister as well as 8Man's sister really tried to help them out but they're all dense or extremely stubborn. I'm gonna go with the latter seeing as how jealous they reacted to things in the final episode.
>>139115424
>All three of them are gigantic pussies
>Yui was able to even attempt it.
Look at it this way, Yukino and 8man have no one else so they don't want to lose it.
Reminder that Yui is best girl.
>>139115703
>protects her clique
>still acts like an ingrate over something obviously fake
I will never understand why it hurt Yui this much that 8man did that.
![[HorribleSubs] Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru Zoku - 07 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_03.36_[2016.02.15_01.05.20].png](https://i.imgur.com/rdX19xE.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru Zoku - 07 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_03.36_[2016.02.15_01.05.20].png")
>>139115790
What 8man did was risky. Yui had every right to be worried
Megane could have said yes and started dating him on the spot or Tobe could have started throwing his girly fists and killed him.
If Yui is going to lose the genuine she at least wants to see it coming.
>>139115375
Yui has been crazy about 8man for months and her heart depends on his actions. Yukino seems to care about him but that doesn't make it romantic in nature. Yukino has not really acted on her feelings and seems okay just being 8man's friend.
>>139115939
>What 8man did was risky.
>"I love you"
>"Nah, I don't wanna date"
LIVING ON THE EDGE
>>139115939
>Tobe
>girly fists
You probably shouldn't try to piss off the best boy.
>>139115424
>All three of them are gigantic pussies
Yeah, they are. They are not used to the problem that they were facing.
>You would think after the amount of time they've spent together they'd be able to articulate their feelings for each other better
8man didn't want to see Yukino and Yukino as anything but perfect or a nice girl. He didn't want to see Yukino's problems with herself. Yukino is a muppet and 8man contributed to it. He let her rely on him and then he became her crutch, it is an unhealthy relationship.
>I'm gonna go with the latter seeing as how jealous they reacted to things in the final episode.
What? I don't really remember jealousy in the final episode. Yeah, Haruno is trying to help her sister get over her problem.I am glad you understand that there wasn't romance implications in the last three episodes.
>>139115493
But that's what starting a relationship begins with.
Taking a risk, albeit calculated, and they should both(Yukino/8man) have realized that nothing comes from pretending things are fine as they are.
Take this from someone who's been in a similar position, if I could I would go back and confess instead of remaining friends until it was too late. But afterall, they are highschool kids, and I'm speaking in hindsight.
Pretty realistic as far as highschool relationships go, I won't lie.
>>139115939
>Megane could have said yes
God, Yui would an hero on the spot and Yukino would be even more mad somehow. 8man would probably wander off never to return.
>>139116184
Just because there wasn't a bad outcome doesn't mean the action wasn't risky.
It's like you ignored everything else in that post and are too retarded to think hypothetically.
>>139116275
>>139116275
>What? I don't really remember jealousy in the final episode
When they were at the Student council event and 8man's friend from junior high said she gave him chocolates once did you see how Yui and Yukino reacted to it? Also Yui is the primary culprit when it comes to jealousy, just look at how she reacts whever 8man and Yukino have any sort of connection when she's around. Think back to the dropped kitchen bowl incident for example.
Also what are you talking about mang. There was hella things implying romance and the existence of Yukinos sister is enough to make me think I'm right. Pay attention to the kind of things she says.
Also in the final conversation between the three, although it wasn't explicitly stated they were talking about how they were going to work out the love triangle that had developed. Even 8man commented on it saying that Yui hadn't been explicit enough with her words to really make a difference.
>>139080144
>perfect
>>139116317
That's the problem with them though, look at Iroha and how she acts freely, she's able to do that because she has absolutely nothing to lose with the way she does things.
Yui tries with what she can but always hold back because she thinks she's "unfair".
8man and Yukino hardly do anything because they don't want to lose the other one, look at how 8man thinks when something involves Yukino it's always something along the lines off "don't want to piss her off" or "do something that I wont be forgiven for".
And for Yukino this is the first person she's truly gotten close and has been accepted by, she has everything to lose by acting and failing.
>>139080522
Yui like Hachiman because he saved her dog from getting run over. They covered that in flashbacks in S1.
>>139116788
>implying
That was the initial basis of their relationship but since they became friends it's obvious she values 8man more than just the man who saved her dog.
She spent time with him alone so she got to see some of his thoughtful side.
>>139117086
What does Yui really even know about Hachiman? What does Hachiman know about Yui? Their interactions are mostly meaningless and it's Yui trying to do what she can to become his girlfriend whithout actually trying foster a strong relationship first.
>>139117338
The same can be said of 8man and Yukino. They barely know each other too.
Although it's true that a strong friendship is a good thing to have before a relationship, it doesn't necessarily make it a prerequisite.
Yui wants 8man to open up to her on a deeper level than what friends would do. They've all been friends for almost a year it seems and he is still pretty closed mouth even with them. Moving their relationship to the next level is probably the only way to get him to open up.
Yukino and 8man have an understanding that goes beyond friendship, simply because they are both loners, still dealing with the expectations/responsibilities of having friends.
>>139116574
Rewatch and think. Romance was not a big part of 8man's motivation and thought process through the last two episodes. Yukino's problem was the center of it, not the love triangle.
>did you see how Yui and Yukino reacted to it?
That was in the second to last episode. In the novel their reactions were funnier, Yui clinches her fist and looks away while Yukino drops a spoon and glares at him while her hand is on her jaw.
>just look at how she reacts whever 8man and Yukino have any sort of connection when she's around. Think back to the dropped kitchen bowl incident for example.
Yui knew that something wasn't right with Yukino and her love filled brain associated it with love. Yui took action as a way to solve Yukino's problem, not the love triangle.
>Yukinos sister is enough to make me think I'm right.
Haruno was giving Yukino shit for being a muppet, not because of romance.
> they were talking about how they were going to work out the love triangle that had developed
No, 8man was saying he and Yui won't interfere with Yukino's choices anymore which will help her do what she wants for herself. Yukino has had a hard time facing her family and dealing with what she truly wants, 8man has been there to support her as of recently. Remember what Hayama and Haruno talk about in the last three episodes, it has to do with Yukino's problem.
Only morons who don't think the series through think that the last few scenes were about romance. Yui and Yukino both like 8man but is secondary.
>>139117664
That's great, but in the entirety of a year Hachiman and Yui haven't gotten to know each other at all.
>>139117720
I think the only moron here is you.
Just watched the second season. I guess that a rough ride. Too many vague statements I don't understand.
But in the end, I really want someone to win the 8bowl, especially the YYs. I just want him to get a girl that he can accompany to the rest of his life.
Also what is /a/ reaction in last episode? I am genuinely curious.
>>139118077
>Also what is /a/ reaction in last episode?
Have you ever been in an Oregairu thread?
>>139118077
No one will win the 8bowl. He isn't out for romance and since Yui gave up on him and Yukino is going to worry about herself it is likely we will get a loner end or friends end. 8man wants genuine, not pussy.
>Also what is /a/ reaction in last episode? I am genuinely curious.
Shitstorm. People still debate what happened.
>>139117809
How so? It is a common mistake to think that the last episode of S2 had romantic vibes. It was more about the three's relationships to eachother and how they have helped and harmed eachother. Yui and Yukino's concern was not who gets 8man's dick. The only scene in the last episode that had romantic implications is the penguin sign thing.
>>139118254
What do you think the last conversation was all about?
>>139118254
It's pretty interesting how Yukino gets penguins symbolism.
http://imgur.com/a/ijCwn
Whereas Yui gets fireworks symbolism.
Volume H – Fireworks meaning
>And, we have finally come to the end of episode 9. The huge fireworks that launches up into the air at the very end. This fireworks are also one of the motifs that light up this series. As this huge flowered lights blossom into its full glory, this flowers also fade away into the darkness of the night. Because these lights are bright and beautiful, once they fall, the shadows that they leave behind are dark as well. After all, these shadows are the remnants of his bright youth being sent away.
http://imgur.com/a/TcWxy
http://imgur.com/a/xhSTs
>>139118361
Yui was trying to force the solution of none of them getting hurt but not getting close. Things not changing means they can't address the real problem, Yukino's problem, and carry on in a false happiness. One of the ways she implied things won't change is she gave 8man thank you cookies. Yukino would remain a directionless muppet, Yui wouldn't have to lose anything, and 8man wouldn't have been able to find his something genuine. Yui wanted Yukino to reject it and stand up for something she actually wanted. 8man rejects this proposal after he sees how much it hurt Yukino, fulfilling Yukino's "help me someday" wish. 8man goes on to say that they shouldn't like in deception and that he will still pursue what he wants no matter how bad things will get fucked up. Yui's entire plan was to force 8man or Yukino to act to get them out of this rut.
8man refused to see the real issue with Yukino, this ties back to the end of episode 11 and the start of episode 12.
I want toscareSaki so hard that she nearly passes out!
>>139118494
Is Yui going to get her heart pulled out and crushed? That is some bad mojo. Will Yui still remain 8man's friend if she can't be his girlfriend?
>>139118907
>8man rejects this proposal after he sees how much it hurt Yukino, fulfilling Yukino's "help me someday" wish
Incorrect. Hachiman tells Yukino to solve her own problem. Yukino is going to be the one person Hachiman will not help.
>>139119000
Yukino was about to consent to it. He saved her and that is the last time he will. He helped address Yukino's problem for once by telling her to solve her own stuff. Yukino finally came back to her senses and told Yui to fuck off.
Still, there were no romantic implications.
Yui+Yukino duet. Might as well since people are denying a lot of what the series is about and the others were posted.
>Yukino: I heard it coming from deep within me
>Yui: The obstinate expectation of mine
>Yukino: (I want to) bring it out
>Yui: With all my strength
>Both: Wouldn’t it be nice if I could do that with a smile?
>Yukino: I don’t need the usual superficial things
>Yui: It’s okay even if it’s just an incomplete wish
>Yukino: The solution
>Yui: Is right here
>Both: Don’t you want to find it as well?
>Yui: The feelings that I hid
>Yukino: Even if I were to say it out honestly
>Yui: It will surely not reach you
>Yukino: But still, I knew it
>Yui: I don’t want to be disliked by you
>Yukino: I know it
>Yui: but yet
>Yukino: I still
>Yui: Want to know
>Both: A little about our future. I am scared.
>Both: If I were to take this (first) step, I wonder what’s waiting for me
>Both: Although no one knows it,
>Yukino: but for me
>Yui: This scenery
>Both: You are shining brilliantly inside it
>Both: Surely, I will come to rely on you without knowing it, and give trouble to you as well, won’t I?
>Yui: The irreplaceable
>Yukino: one
>Both: I wonder who that person will be
>Yukino: Those times when you don’t look to be in a good mood,
>Yui: you still listen to what I have to say.
>Yukino: You pretend to be
>Yui: Not interested at all
>Both: You are by yourself yet again
>Yukino: With a side profile that looks like everything’s already been done
>Yui: That’s because you don’t understand anything at all
>Yukino: But still,
>Yui: before I knew it
>Both: We were looking at each other yet again
>>139119186
>Yui: Clumsy you may be,
>Yukino: you are still kind as always
>Yui: I guess it’s still unfair, huh?
>Yukino: Although it’s vexing to me
>Yui: But perhaps, it is only
>Yukino: with you
>Yui: being
>Yukino: right
>Yui: beside me
>Both: that I could be myself.
>Both: The sadness that strikes at me for no reason
>Both: crushes my heart.
>Yukino: Let’s not
>Yui: think about
>Both: all the painful things anymore
>Both: My heart becomes untied and our faces have the same smile
>Yui: Be it your truthful thoughts
>Yukino: Or your bluffs
>Both: I will accept them all and that will become our future
>Yui: I wonder when it happened.
>Yukino: That something so near
>Yui: could feel so distant from me.
>Yukino: I can’t hold onto it anymore
>Yui: These feelings that are spilling out of me
>Yukino&Yui: Although I still have my doubts,
>Yukino&Yui: but right now
>Both: I think it’s quite enjoyable
>Both: Once I take this (first) step, I wonder what’s waiting for me
>Both: Although no one knows it,
>Yukino: but for me
>Yui: this scenery
>Both: You are shining brilliantly inside it
>Both: Surely, I will come to rely on you without knowing it, and give trouble to you as well, won’t I?
>Yukino&Yui: To become that irreplaceable one
>Both: I wonder what is it that I can do
>Both: Let’s move on towards the future.
>>139119102
Yukino was going to consent to it because she always caves in to what Yui says, because Yui is her only friend.
>In the face of well-established logic and words, Yukinoshita was quick to turn people down. But whenever she was pressured by sentimental words and gestures, she’d cave in surprisingly easy. Source: Yuigahama’s usual exchanges with her.
>>139119315
Yes, the fact that she can't stand up to it despite how much Yui's proposal hurt is part of her problem.
Still, no one has debunked my assertion that there was little romance in the last episode.
>>139119642
>Yes, the fact that she can't stand up to it despite how much Yui's proposal hurt is part of her problem.
Not really. Yui was making Yukino choose between her feelings for Hachiman and preserving her friendship with Hachiman and Yui. Yukino doesn't want to lose her friends.
>Still, no one has debunked my assertion that there was little romance in the last episode.
Because that entire notion is retarded.
>>139119779
>Because that entire notion is retarded.
Why? I don't see the romance.
>Yui was making Yukino choose between her feelings for Hachiman and preserving her friendship with Hachiman and Yui.
Yui was making Yukino pick between genuine and ungenuine but happy.
>>139119779
>Yukino doesn't want to lose her friends.
If Yukino didn't want to lose her friends then she should have been happy to accept Yui's proposal.
>>139119642
>no romance
are you autistic?
>>139120192
So, then that means she wants Hachiman more.
>>139120748
I guess that would be the case if she found the friends option the disagreeable one. I wonder how she will obtain this Hachiman. Maybe she will use a large basket, a stick, a piece of thin rope, and an opened can of MAX COFFEE.
>>139120635
No. I don't think there were any romantic oertones in the last episode. The 3P date was more than them trying to deal with the love triangle.
>>139116734
If YY stay and do nothing he will get eaten up by another girl. How will they feel then? It might be nice not to feel the pressure of their feelings.
>>139119642
>>139119102
>>139120082
>>139121449
Stop it, you're delusional. The last episode was exclusively about romance, what else can you call the strained emotions the girls were barely hiding the whole time? They clearly have romantic feelings for Hachiman and the fact they both brought cookies for him and got sentimental about penguins should have keyed you in to that. Though it seems that it did, and you're just denying it.
You said Yui was making Yukino choose between genuine and ungenuine, but what do you think "genuine" actually means here? Do you really believe it has nothing to do with romance?
>>139080144
More like the most stuck up bitch ever
>>139125343
Hello pre-volume 2 8man.
>>139125343
Yukino is pretty great though.
Assuming Yukino doesn't win, how much will the stress and anxiety that she has accumulated during the story affected her? Will she even recover if she wins?
>>139125441
She'll probably just go abroad.Then 8man will abandon Yui for her at the last second.
![[Commie] Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku - My Teenage RomCom SNAFU TOO! - 03 [57627F30].mkv_snapshot_16.32_[2015.04.17_12.43.51].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ghIZTb7.jpg "[Commie] Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku - My Teenage RomCom SNAFU TOO! - 03 [57627F30].mkv_snapshot_16.32_[2015.04.17_12.43.51].jpg")
Why are they so perfect for each other?
>>139125986
>no harem ending with YY + Haruno
it would be a dream come true
>>139125441
She will be fine if she wins and has a "genuine" relationship, but if she doesn't win she won't be able to talk to Yui or 8man anymore and she'll go back to being a helpless puppet. You saw her almost break down internally in the last episode. Haruno would probably be pissed.
It's really hard to imagine a world where she doesn't win though, since Yui doesn't have the guts to beat her directly; Yui doesn't want Yukino to be miserable either and hates herself for the times she didn't play fair. She wanted all three of them to stay happy but there's no way it will end that way if they need to end up with something you could call genuine.
someone post the Iroha or death webm, just finish the movie
>>139125986
>yfw Vol. 12 makes Haruno 8man's soulmate and Yukinoshita Inferior loses again
so, who does 8man end up in the LNs
>>139126170
thx, kek at She smiled at 8man. Now i can understand the meme but better with audio (bgm)
>>139126132
Saika, it is canon where Saika is a closet girl and was impregnated by 8man with love.
>>139125834
Perfect ending
10/10
would read/watch again
>>139126131
It'd be amazing if Wataru really had the balls to do it. Haruno is basically Hikigaya if he was popular. His self-sacrificing, playing the villain personality is pretty much text book Haruno. They're basically the same person in different situations. Not to mention Haruno definitely likes him, at least platonically.
>>139126336
what the fuck did she sacrificed? At i could see was she is a manipulative, flamming bitch.
Btw, pls stop the platonic bullshit
>>139126336
The shitstorm would be amazing. MAL, Reddit, and /8maninhighschool/'s would be on eternal suicide watch.
>>139125834
white album 2?
they have the same hair color scheme as well
>>139126403
>btw, pls
Stop talking like a bitch. She spend the majority of her early life dealing with Yukino's autism and ruined her relationship with her so she can stop trying to copy Haruno's life like a pathetic mime without a personality. Which didn't even work so apparently she wasn't even enough of a bitch to get through her dumb sister's skull.
>>139126738
yeah watever. I though Yukinon was forced to be elite by parent
>>139126738
You know, I want to personally thank people like you. You give me the motivation to carry on with what I'm doing. I'm always second guessing if I should actually go through with this out of fear that it will tear the fanbase apart, but you make it easier for me. No regrets, no holding back. Thank you for being such a disgusting and wretched human being. See you in a few months.
>>139126900
Nobody cares. Just kill yourself.
>>139127011
Sure, but not after publishing this.
>>139092303
wow, a made-up story that's artificial and planned. Who would have thought. /a/ is so autistic it literally can't handle fiction.
>>139126515WW is secretly Murata all along
>>139080144
God fuckin dammit this is why we don't have much people. Put yahari/oregairu in OP dammit.
>>139126738
She sounds like an insane and immature asshole.
>>139128617
No
and Fuck You
We had discussed many possible endings without focus on supposedly supporting characters. So, what are the endgames for them?
>>139130540
>We had discussed many possible endings without focus on supposedly supporting characters
That's because the prevailing attitude in these threads is that all the supporting characters are a waste of time to even acknowledge because they're supporting characters, for some reason.
>>139130540
Most of them probably aren't going to get much closure.
The ones that may are Hayama (and by extension Miura) and Iroha.
>>139130901
sure, Hayama will reject Miura and if Iroha asks again she'll get 2nd rejection, though she is already rejected.
Hayama won't get any closure do to his issue, his whole life will be a pile of lack of closure. He'll get married to someone planned for him, not to whom he has love.
It is clear the main characters will get closure, and someone will be badly hurt
>>139130856
>>139130901
well, i have no previous experience on LN.
I feels sad for the side characters if without proper disclosure
>>139129363
Fuck you I'm not discussing if OP is shit
>>139130540
Iroha will probably confess to 8man and get rejected, so that 8man can experience the Orimoto thing from the other perspective. They'll remain "just friends" after that most likely, and I assume she'll be kept out of the dumb relationship melodrama from that point onwards.
Clearly something regarding Hayama and 8man is going to happen, it's been building up to it for a while, I'm not particularly sure what though.
The other supporting characters (though Iroha basically is a main character at this point given the amount of focus she's gotten, regardless of how people in these threads using "main character" and "chick that might end up with 8man" interchangebly for some reason) probably won't get any sort of closure.
>>139131580
What is going to end for Saki and Saika and Sensei too ?
>>139131580
Hayama will get inspired by Hachiman's changes over the past year, and decide he will make a huge change to himself, going after what he really wants, "Y".
This will put him at odds with Hachiman, who will also realize he wants the "Y" (no not the social-status seeking big-tits airheaded one)
Hayama has leverage to get the "Y", he can tell Yuki-mom that her daughter is getting feelings for and following a certain undesirable rotten-eyed lowlife commoner.
Hachiman has leverage to get the "Y", he has ally in the face, representative and heir to the Yukinoshita family.
Hilarity ensues
>>139131717
What exactly is there to do with Saki? She kind of has a crush on 8man, but nothing major. She's going for her scholarship and college. Her life is basically ok. Same with Saika.
With Sensei the only thing hanging is the ramen date with Hachiman after graduation. If it's actually shown, I bet it's Hachiman + Yukino or Hachiman + the whole Service Club.
>>139131717
I could see Sensei getting a nice scene with 8man alone right at the end to wrap things up, what with how the series starts with those two and all.
Saki and Saika though, I don't see anything. Especially Saika, he is pretty much just a comic relief character.
>>139131809
the club should someday take as self-request the finding of Sensei a man. They know her hobbies, interests, issues; who better to do that?
>>139131859
Saika can be friend for life to Hachiman; play tennis on weekend or go see scary movies for "guys night out" even after Hachiman gets a girl
>>139131921
I don't even mean closure in a "will he end up with anyone" sense, I straight up mean that I wouldn't be surprised the author just doesn't bother giving those characters any general sense of closure at all beyond merely being present at the ending (if even that)
>>139131991
What are you expecting for 'closure'? Most of these characters don't have outstanding concerns that need to be addressed.
>>139131991
>merely being present at the ending (if even that)
It hurts, man. Btw, let's just imagine the possible endings/future for them.
>Saika become cute male nurse
>8man inspired, become a doctor and share the same hospital
>>139124125
>what else can you call the strained emotions the girls were barely hiding the whole time?
Realization that Yukino's problem is real and affects them.
>The last episode was exclusively about romance
So you don't think Yukino's problem played any role in this?
>sentimental about penguins should have keyed you in to that
Yukino realized she was stepping in Yui's territory and Yui was just conscious that 8man may only have one friend at the end of this since she doesn't want to be his friend.
>but what do you think "genuine" actually means here?
>Do you really believe it has nothing to do with romance?
A relationship where 8man doesn't have to guess someone's motivations and one that isn't dipped in deception. It certainly isn't pussy.
Romance with 8man is secondary to both YYs and for all we know it won't be explored.
>>139132050
well yeah that's my point, the anon was talking about closure for the side characters but there's not much for there to even be closure for in most cases
>>139131186
>and someone will be badly hurt
Are we sure he is going to pick one? Both of them ain't going to take rejection well and 8man likes both.
>>139132094
Closure may be the inappropiate word. What its means was the future or the stand they took in the endings. Like someone mentioned Saki going to get scholarship, the closure would be confirming and maybe where does she go to study and remotely maybe reasserted her crush to 8man.
>No roast, i am weak now.
>>139126403
>>139126855
>>139128693
What exactly did you guys think Haruno was getting out if it if you thought she was being selfishly manipulative? It's been obvious for ages that she's a weirdo who's looking out for her sister in her own weird way so that Yukino doesn't end up like herself
>>139080144
Thats the cruel reality that we have to live with anon.
Smart dignified girls like her don't exsist.
>>139132087
>Romance with 8man is secondary to both YYs
Yup. Neither has been concerned at all with romance with 8man. It is probably irrelevant who he sticks it too.
>>139132493
I was aware. She's still an asshole.
