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Who are you mad at, exactly? Kayo? Hiromi? Satoru?
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Who are you mad at, exactly? Kayo? Hiromi? Satoru?
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No one, because I'm not a retarded shipping faggot.
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>>138939346
Myself, because I am
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>>138939268
The author.
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>>138939268
The teacher obviously, mostly for ruining Satoru's mom's life. I mean her death was the main reason he wanted to fix things in the first place.
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I'm mad at those idiots who spammed /a/ with their NTR bullshit. There is no NTR.
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>>138939268
Satoru
for not loving Hiromi
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>>138939268
Hating someone for becoming a milf, I will never understand this place.

Cosplay, shippers, yu-gi-oh hair, it's times like this i truly do feel lost.
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>>138939268
Is this show really as bad as the memes say?
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http://strawpoll.me/7150567
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author, the delivery was practically set up to make people mad
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>>138939673
Nah.
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>>138939794
With your memes, I'm afraid it won't work out between us.
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>>138939794
guys can't date guys
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>>138939268
Satoru got a 2nd and even 3rd chance, and with it he saved several lives and made fond memories. Even the 15 years of coma and Kayo not being literally perfect and waiting for him seems like a small price to pay. I don't even get how is Airi supposed to hook up with him, the only loose end is Sensei and that fucker needs to die.
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Nobody. Two people forming a relationship over 15 years after bonding over someone who is basically dead is perfectly normal.
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>>138939380
This. Everyone is mad because they wanted to self insert. It's a fun manga with a shitty but fun adaptation. A solid 6/10.
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>>138939268

The writer who started something good and then took a dump on it
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NTR brings the reader pain. That's why you read manga, right?
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>>138939268
Hiromi
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>>138939391
>>138939391
>>138939391
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Kayo

She was supposed to wait
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>>138939268
Most people will agree they are mad at the shit author. Anyone who says they are mad at Kayo are shit posting, autistic, or both.
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>>138943520
Which is still retarded, because everyone knew this was gonna happen, yet they decided to spam /a/ as if they were surprised.
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>>138943520
he tried to be a special snowflake instead of doing what has already worked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weSAge0XsOY
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The author because he should know better by now.
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>>138939794
b-but that's forbidden love
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I'm mad at baiters and shitposters for manufacturing the NTR drama.

Kayo and Satoru had a very adorable relationship regardless of whether it was potentially romantic or not.

It could have been handled better, BUT what we got makes sense.

And we've got no idea what Kayo and Hiromi's relationship is like. Is it full of genuine love and kindness? Do they share a deep bond? Being married with a child certainly makes it more than possible. But it's also possible they have an awkward, tense relationship that's full of "things would be different if he weren't in a coma". We just don't know. Either reality is acceptable and makes sense
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>>138945259
I also think he was genuinely happy she was safe and now had a firm chance at life that she would have never had if he hadn't saved her.

Even if they were fated to be together and they were both desperately in love with each other at 11 years old (very unlikely) her spending 15 years of her life waiting at his bedside and not bothering to live the life he worked so hard for her to have is not what he had in mind. That woukd shit on the reason he saved her to begin with.
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>>138939268
My father.
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I would have prob raged 10 years ago, now I'm just happy to see she got a chance at the happy family she always wanted.

she would have loved to have done with Satoru, and probably even waited for him, but you can't really blame her, the due was in a god dam coma.

also this >>138939484
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When Kayo left for her grandmothers I knew they weren't going to be together at the end, I'm more disappointed in Hiromi, he obviously believed that Satoru liked Kayo When he obviously did not but still muscled on in.

Just the intentions of stealing a best friends partner is fucked up enough, even though Satoru didn't really think of her as a partner, but Hiromi thinkin' he going to come in and NTR Satoru, that shit is fucked.
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Will the last episode fill the plotholes or nah?
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>>138939268
>B-but that girl was getting the most screentime and the mc was working to change her life for the better
>That means they're obligated to end up together

Just because two characters COULD potentially end up together doesn't mean they SHOULD

Especially with how they resolved her arc by pretty much removing Kayo from Satoru's daily lfe; expecting any kind of romance to blossom there is a stretch at best
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>>138945706
I agree with this. They removed her from his daily life and he seemed fine with that. That doesn't mean they couldn't have been long distance buddies and reconnected their daily lives in high school or college. But the coma happened. Tough shit. It sucks but it's hardly NTR.
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Yashiro is more loyal than Kayo. He waited and believed that Satoru would wake up from his coma and regain his memories.
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>>138945706
Practically the first 10 episodes ships them together (especially the birthday episodes, and christmas tree episode).

Satoru could have been genuinely happy for Kayo, and might have never been interested in her romantically, but the complete opposite was conveyed to us.

So I'm not mad at any of the characters, I'm mad at this retarded author.
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>>138945690
>plotholes
be specific
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>>138945615
>stealing his partner.
That was elementary school kiddy shit. Plus they've waited at least 10 years before anything serious. I don't think Hiromi did it out of malice much less planning it since such long ago.
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>>138945851
For example that this timeline can't exist because he has prevented the kidnappings so there's no reason for him to go back in time and save them and his mom in the future
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>>138945871
Fuck off, Hiromi.
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>>138939268
Fuck off with this cancer NTR meme. Satoru only wanted her to survive you dumb fucks he didn't want to fuck a 10 year old
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>>138945706
And yet she ended with Hiromi. The 15 years coma is what screwed him.
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i just want to hatefuck kayo thighs.
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>>138945927
That's basic time travel plothole stuff.
How about this for solving that plothole: Everything before waking up from the coma was a dream
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>>138946072
Perfect
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>>138945806
This
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It's pretty lame out of all of them Hiromi is the one who had a baby with her but I'm not mad.

It was just a surprise considering how the barely interacted as kids or in the anime at least.
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THE BEST PART ABOUT WAKING UP

IS NTR UR WAIFU

Shipping fags btfo
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>>138945927
I don't understand.
Do you mean why he continued to live in the timeline even after preventing the kidnappings? I think that's because his magic bullshit usually only sends him back, not forward. For example when he stops the truck from hitting the kid he doesn't get a flash forward after preventing the accident.
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>>138946356
He had a flash foward the first time he couldn't save Kayo which also causes another plot hole in that he forced the next revival to take place.
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>>138946048
The point was never to have the two characters fall in love, it was to prevent her from being killed by enriching her life with friendship.

You could read some romantic subtext in a lot of their interactions, but his clearly defined objective was never to romance her, it was to save her life. Hoping for them to fall in love is the fault of the viewer's expectation, not on the show's failure to deliver
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>>138947084
That's why I said usually. Also, how is forcing a revival a plot hole? Revival isn't really explained, it's lazy, but it's not really a plot hole.
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baka nano Hiromi
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>>138946356
Anything with time travel tends to have a lot of plot holes, but that's time travel for you. I mean..well, meh. That shit is so incredibly complicated there's no point talking about it in this context.

Anyway. MC's ultimate goal is to get rid of the killer in order to save his mother. Simply denying few victims from him is not enough. As long as the killer exists, or is free he poses a threat to MC's mother.
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>>138947525
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>>138947525
I hate you
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>>138947525
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING
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I'm mad at the director for not making adult Kayo say bakanano.
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>>138947525
Fuck off
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>>138947896
I guarantee you she said it to Hirmoi a lot while he was fucking her bareback
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>>138939268
>Satoru
Should have realized that getting close to the killer's targets would make him a target.
Carry a damn weapon, take him out, take them all out, become the Punisher.
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>>138948158
Doesn't matter, I just want to hear she say it.
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>>138948419

I'm pretty sure there's a scene with Hiromi, Kayo and the baby doing family shit.
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>>138945783
In the manga she actually came back to the town. Told Satoru how he was her hero, and after he goes into a coma it's shown she was visiting the tree in the summer. What the fuck was this author thinking
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>Goes out of his way to save both of their life's which ultimately leads to him being in a coma for 15 years
>Wakes up to find out they became a couple

I know we don't see what happens in the time skip but wouldn't it have made more sense if she went with Kenya as he was the one she was closet to after Satoru?
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Is Airi gonna reappear at all? If she doesn't it seems like her total character was a waste that went nowhere.
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>>138948796
The mangaka wasn't going for something that made sense, but something that had meaning, retarded.
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>>138939268
/a/
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>>138939268
All those characters belong to the author, and his shit story.
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The Author for taking Airi out of the plot.

This is the only thing to be legitimately mad about.
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>>138948818
Yes, she is Kayo's baby.
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>>138939268
Again with the kek meme ? Enough anon.
I'm mad at A-1 for butchering the end of the story by making an anime original ending and cutting Airi who is the love interest of Satoru. Who the fuck cares about Kayo ? Satoru is adult during the time travel, he just want to change the past because he admire super-hero. It's not a fucking romance.
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>>138948890
>complains about love interest
>Not a romance
???????
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>>138948890
A1 studio can't into adaptation. They did the same thing to Grimgar by cutting a lot of content and changing how the characters interacts.
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>>138948890
I'm still mad that the boy he saved and hit a car for didn't put out either
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>>138948873
>Yfw Airi is going to be in danger in the present time
>Satoru will have to do something gallant to rescue her and put the killer down for good
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>>138948920
I meant it's not a romance between Kayo and Satoru. Fuck it's not even a romance with Airi since there is no development at all with her except an open ending that japs love "it's was fate" because they met in the last chapter.
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>>138948873
Who's that?
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>>138948873
She win the bowl in the manga.
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>>138939268
I didn't even realize people thought this was NTR.

Satoru and Kayo never had a romantic relationship, so how is this NTR?
And Airi was set up to be the romantic interest in episode 1 anyway.
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>>138949576
>And Airi was set up to be the romantic interest in episode 1 anyway.

How so?
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>>138940563
So what exactly are the plotholes in this?
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>>138949595
The dialogue he had with his mother, his mother mentioned that the girl is obviously interested in him.
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Airi is best Pizza waifu.
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>>138939268
Get spoiled before start watching so no damage here.
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>>138949702
Grasping at straws.
I guess you missed the obvious bit where Satoru's mom said:
>I now pronounce you husband and wife
And then Kayo and Satoru were legally married, they then consummated their relationship with sexual intercourse shortly before Kayo was carted off to an orphanage.
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>>138949702
His mother also teased him with Kayo, what's your point?
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>>138949780
>>138949771
It still isn't NTR because Kayo and Satoru never had a relationship.
Feel free to think that Satoru was interested in Kayo if you want to, but then he just "lost" the Kayobowl, it isn't NTR because she was never his girlfriend.
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>Gave the biggest focus on Kayo and she even got additional cut scenes that didn't exist in the manga
>Satoru dreaming of Airi and her being the last person he thought of before the coma were skipped
>NTR still adapted and Airi seems to be the endgame

All of this doesn't make sense at all.

Are they just trolling us?
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>>138949814
I never said anything about NTR though.
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>>138949835
Fair enough.
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>>138949829
>and Airi seems to be the endgame
Airi is gone.
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>>138949576
This biased Airi fag
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Kayo was given the biggest focus because she is the selling point, director understood focusing on her would be good for popularity
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>>138949576
>And Airi was set up to be the romantic interest
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>>138949613
Everyone Satoru saved in his old timeline using revival are now all dead.
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>>138950132
Which is a shame since none of them will put out now either.
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>>138950132
How do you figure that?
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>>138950170
He no longer has his revival power, I doubt he remembers everyone he saved. His absence in those 15 years probably cost people some of their lifes.
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>>138950250
>>138950132
That's not a plot hole, him saving those people impacts nothing.
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>>138950250
What a coincidence, his revival power stopped the moment he stopped dreaming
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>>138950282
POTTERY
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>>138950271
This completely negates the point of him saving the boy in the beginning from the truck. In the end, he dies anyway in the new timeline.
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>>138950475
So? The kid wasn't integral to the plot, things can still happen with him dying. I think you need to check the definition of plot hole.
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Everyone. This show was so full of plot holes I just couldn't enjoy it fully. For example: CLIMB OUT OF THE FUCKING SEATBELT YOU DUMB FUCK

I still firmly believe that if everyone wasn't a dumbass the entire thing wouldn't have happened, but no, the author had to force the entire thing to happen.
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>>138950282
deep
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>>138939268
Government.
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>>138948873
Airi is too convenient to the MC.

Why was she there when he saved the kids in the 1st chapter?
Why was she there when he was rushing out of the Manager's house?
Why was she there when he was paparazzied at the hospital?
Why was she there when he was standing under the bridge that she had no memories about in that time line?

Actually, coincidence is the only occurrence of all of the events she involved with and that's
why we find her very existence to be a mistake in this how.
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Why did the teacher stop killing people after dealing with Satoru?
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>>138939268
both 3
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>>138951004
>mfw Airi is secretly a stalker who gets off watching Satoru suffering
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>>138939794
i would have love you forever.
but those shitty memes...

It just will not happen

>>138939268
im mad at the author actually , he had his oportunity to fix all the bullshit he recognized was wrong , but instead he made it even shittier with the kayo X satoru + airi erased

the best thing i can see happening now is the MC falling from the roof and going back in time again in his last revival , leaving the anime in a cliffhanger
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>>138951004
Someone finally said it. Her appearances have no explanation she's just there
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As of the live action film,

Satoru has achived topkek status, as he did not enter a coma and was implied to have lived life normally, and he still didn't get Kayo, but Revival zipped him back to present time with a pregnant Kayo sitting at his bedside. Also he's dead at the end.
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>>138939673
People only say it's bad because its popular just like what happened to Shingeki.
It's pretty nice to watch even though the story could use some patching up.
>tldr: show isn't bad, we are
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>>138948240
people says that is not NTR

think about this , you are getting along a little girl in your chilhood but then you get in a coma waking up 15 years later.
The last thing you remember was going out with her.
You wake up and see the girl in adult form with the baby she ad with one of your friends.

You still are a 12 years old , not knowing what the fuck is going on , and they bring that bullshit there. in the manga it takes a lot of time for MC to remember he traveled in time
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>>138951004
>Why was she there when he saved the kids in the 1st chapter?
>Why was she there when he was rushing out of the Manager's house?
>Why was she there when he was paparazzied at the hospital?
>Why was she there when he was standing under the bridge that she had no memories about in that time line?

because it was a fate. problem solved.
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>Things satou achieved in his coma timeline:
Saved 3 people and his mother

>Things he sacrificed:
All other people he saved with revival
Sensei killed through the 15 years he was in coma anyway.

You can seriously consider the canon timeline to be a major fuckup.
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>>138951733

>tfw he became a fat fuck
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>>138951565
That was implied in the PV too, someone posted the webm some time ago.
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>>138939268

I'm mad at the author since he not only is a freaking hack who employed shitty plot devices elements in the story like muh coma and muh amnesia but also fucked up the mystery elements by making it obvious who the killer is


>>138951970

>it was bad writing

FTFY
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>>138951970
>Fate
Just say it's bad writing, and admit Airi is badly written
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>>138952229

I like Airi but the truth is that later in the story she is just a plot device for the MC to not end up forever alone
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>>138952310
This, Airi is only ever used as a plot device.
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>>138952310
Airi is how you know for sure this story is fiction.
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>>138952345

She's part of it, sure, but what about the revival BS that never gets any explanation?
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>>138939391 for bad writing.
Kayofags for their incessant NTR whining.
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>>138951171
No one? This is a major plot hole if you ask me.
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MY DAD STOLE A CHOCOLATE BAR AND EVERYONE HATED HIM, THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE YOU.

this is literally the stupidest part of the show.
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>>138952891
He stopped killing kids, he killed some adults.
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>>138947318
This is not my point. My point is that even with the distance thing she ended with Hiromi so using that daily life excuse has no value. Obviously she came back at some point and when she came Satoru was in the coma.
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The author is the one to blame here. The whole story is really sloppily written and you can tell he changed his mind many times over the course of the story regarding the direction he wanted to go. This is obvious when you consider foreshadowing that never pays off or story elements that seemed like they were going to be reincorporated but never were.

The most glaring of these is obviously the cute relationship stuff between Satoru and Kayo. There was no need for it, all it did was set up a disappointment for the reader. He could have been more consistent with the "Kayo is falling for Satoru, but Satoru is only thinking about changing her past to save her and has no romantic feelings." But instead he threw in all those "get ahold of yourself, you're an adult" moments when he was starting to develop feelings for her.

Or how about that "we should come see this Christmas tree again" line? That was clearly intended to be reincorporated but the story eventually made it impossible to do so, so it had to be forgotten, and it might as well have never happened.

It would have been fine if Kayo's romantic feelings for Satoru were somehow relevant to the story. Maybe she could have resisted being sent away because she knew it would separate them, and Satoru would have to deal with the fact that she'd developed feelings for him that were interfering with his ability to save her. Something like that would have at least made the romantic elements sensible.

Instead, we had Satoru going into a coma, skipping (conveniently) back to the same time period where the story began, and then the writer had to think of what could have possibly happened with these characters. So two of them became a doctor and a lawyer respectively (also pretty lazy, consider if you asked someone to name a bunch of "successful jobs" those would be two of the first they'd list), and for some reason Kayo has reconnected with these boys after being raised elsewhere.
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So is this officially the most embarrassing thing in MAL's Top 10?
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>>138953317

Pretty much this desu

Author is just an incompetent hack, the anime only became this popular because it chose to focus more on the best part of the story ( before chapter 20 of the manga)
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>>138953317
Really, it's like he wanted to say 'Fuck you" to the readers. What pisses me the most is that such a writer was able to make their relationship that good. What is the author's gender?
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>>138953425
I don't know what mal's top 10 is but aren't the other 9 more embarassing?
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>>138953452
I dunno but if I didn't know better I'd think it was Mari Okada.
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>>138953317
It's been mentioned in an interview how Sanbe Kei was thinking of multiple different endings. The manga near the end was dragged out because he didn't know what to do for the ending. The ending was not something planned from the beginning of the manga it's something he thought up as he went along.
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>>138939500
Same here
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>>138939268
FUCKING KEK
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>>138953425

Definitely
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>>138953468
> FMA: Brotherhood
> Gintama x4
> LoGH
> S;G
> HxH
> Clannad

Nah, I'd have to say this is probably the most embarrassing one. On the other hand, its rating is actually going down 0.1 per day almost everyday.
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>>138953494
Then I'm confirmed in my opinion. This is the problem with serialization. When it comes to a story this convoluted, especially one with a mystery that is being solved, it's important that both ends of the story match up, and every expectation set by the story is somehow satisfied. A shitty writer will just throw in a bunch of twists and turns along the way to keep readers interested, eventually making their own story incoherent. And because they've already canonized early parts of the story they can't go back and revise things in order to make the story more consistent, they just hang around as an embarrassing reminder of what might have been.

We almost had a good story here but it was just poorly conceived. Someone in another thread compared it to Zankyou no Terror and I think that's an excellent comparison.
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>>138953494

Author is a hack: confirmed
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>>138953080
It doesn't make sense, as his plan was to kill those kids, and after Satoru's departure he could've done it easily, Kayo aside.
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>>138953761
He stops killing other kids and only after Satoru because "muh spider threads'
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>>138951171
Not that I believe it much myself but maybe it's because he was too obsessed with Spice aka Satoru after he learned about his survival?
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>>138953882
This is the most retarded motive ever.
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>>138953897
I don't buy it, there was no confirmation Satoru would wake up. Was Yashiro just going to wait for him forever and give up killing?
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>>138953452
1988 was really good beacause it was the time period where the mangaka could relate to the most. Kayo and Satoru's relationship was probably based off his childhood crush. Should of just ended things in that time period.
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Why a coma? Was that just so they could pretend Satoru died for the sake of a cliffhanger?

Why not a timeskip instead?
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>>138954370
They just adapted it from the manga. The coma was a way to have the title have a meaning and erase Satoru from the new timeline.
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I hate Kayo
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>>138947525
HAVE MERCY
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>>138954464

Title could have already made sense due to Kayo's essay but nevertheless

Author cpuld have just killed him, less cliche and grants him a definitive ending, he exchanges his life for the killer getting caught and his mother living
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People care about plot details too much

i've enjoyed the atmosphere of the reveals enough for this to stay consistently good as the first few eps
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>>138939268
>Who are you mad at, exactly?

The jews
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All you need to know.
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I'm mad at the author for the shitty writing. Coma for fifteen years? Fuck you.
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>>138956373
Why did you screenshot your own post?

It's retarded and makes no sense. By that logic they would get mad if Kayo and MC got together too because it's "happiness that is not their own."

People are pissed off that the show they were watching teased a cute relationship and ended up backing out on it.
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Put your trip on, Lelouch.
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>>138956577
I hope you're not implying Lelouch actually gets involved in discussions.
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>>138956499
Everyone had already self-inserted as MC though.
Rubbing their hands together and ready to get with Kayo.
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>>138956499
>People are pissed off that the show they were watching teased a cute relationship and ended up backing out on it.

This, more than half the show was about saving Kayo and how their relationship developed. Then the author decided to be edgy and put the main character in a coma.
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>>138956499
This
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>>138939268
>the trap won
This is what gets me, it's just trolling.
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>>138956499

>Why did you screenshot your own post?

Because I'm not going to retype it every time this thread comes up.

>By that logic they would get mad if Kayo and MC got together too because it's "happiness that is not their own."

Except they've been self-inserting as the MC.
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Everybody hates kayo
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I would like to think that the author is trolling. The anime director outright admitted to being a Kayofag. Not sure about the movie though.

So even though both directors changed a fuckton of content, somehow Kayo not being an option in the endgame for Satoru is a constant. Heck, not even the coma was a constant in the live-action. It almost feels like the author held both directors at gunpoint and told them that they can literally changed everything else, but not the Kayo thing. So yes, I actually think the author is deliberately setting up a controversy for publicity's sake.
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>>138956664
Your waifu is a slut
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>>138956849
>I actually think the author is deliberately setting up a controversy for publicity's sake.
No shit, it's obvious.
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>>138951733
are those balls or a pussy?
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>>138956967
The world may never know.
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>>138953425
It's godsent compared to fujoshit garbage like Gintama.
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>Author wants to do a story between a girl and a guy without turning it into romance
>The autistic fanbase can't concentrate on anything else than their deluded shipping not bearing fruit
It's like Hibikek all over again, such a wonderful time to be alive.
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>>138957084
>Author wants to do a story between a girl and a guy without turning it into romance
The way he handled it was absolutely poor.
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>>138957028
>godsent

Senpai please.
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>>138957084
Except Kumiko and Reina actually are destined for one another and only the publisher prevented the author from going full yuri. I'm looking foward to see your hetshit tears when KyoAni rectifies this with the second season.
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15 fucking years man
Anyone would go James Sunderland on their partner.
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>>138957520
>only the publisher prevented the author from going full yuri.
Good, they stopped cancer from happening. Seriously if this happened it would have been weebshit pandering that would have hurt the whole show.
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>>138957084
>>Author wants to do a story between a girl and a guy without turning it into romance
Pls, he was obviously hinting at romance then there is that shitty coma then timeskip and she is with Hiromi, Hiromi of all people. He could have handled it very well WITHOUT the Satoru-Kayo constant teasing, he didn't. He's a shitty writer.
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>>138957520
>second season.
No one gives a fuck about this show. They won't bother
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>>138939268
Definitively Kayo, she should've stayed a loli forever.
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>>138957626
>fat cat execs meddling with a creator's vision is a good thing
Taking the yuri out was pandering to the otaku who need some insipid male self-insert or they won't fork over their NEET bux.
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>>138957754
Not him but Kyoani is known to keep gay shit in check. Despite what anime makes some people think, Japanese hate gays and almost completely won't allow it.
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>>138957754
I still find it hilarious whenever people try to glorify yuri as some kind of progressive pro-gay thing.
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>>138957626

Maybe it's because I rarely enter yuri-flavored threads but I've never gotten the "actual full on yuri sucks" thing. Why would an actual lesbian hookup be bad? It'd be a fucking breath of fresh air compared to another "high school crush/eventually finds a boy" ending.
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>>138957943
If even in this day and age homophobic execs still suppress publishing of explicit yuri romance, then you can bet your ass it is progressive
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>>138958037
It's just a vocal minority of self-inserters who can't handle it if their seasonal waifu doesn't crave for cock. The most pathetic posters on /a/.
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>>138958132

>10 years ago
>/a/ loves lesbians and the sexy women of 80s and 90s anime
>today
>/a/ hates lesbians and thinks all the sexy women of 80s and 90s anime are slut trash

what happened
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>m-muh happily ever after disney ending

kill yourselves
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>>138958260
It became popular so now /a/ hates it.
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>>138958047

Still in the denial process, /u/? Just move on already.
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>>138939268
kayo and hiromi
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>>138957529
>partner
A childhood crush, actually. Don't forget, they were ten.
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>>138958260
No one on /a/ honestly dislikes yuri. There's just a couple falseflaggers like >>138958426 who love baiting and shitposting even more than yuri.
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>>138958610

Talk for yourself, /u/seless
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>>138958610
>No one on /a/ honestly dislikes yuri

Speak for yourself, faggot.
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Kayo and Hiromi. I don't give a fuck if she has a baby with somone else, but why the fuck did it had to be someone in his circle of close friends? That's some bitch shit right there and I think that's the point these people don't understand. Yeah I get that it was because they was both saved and his deeds gave birth to new life. but fuck that bullshit. It's not cool. At all.
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>>138958655
>>138958679
You're just proving the point.
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>>138939268
airi was set up to be the romantic interest from the very start, kayo was just a childhood crush/friend that he felt indebted to.
Getting married was actually a good thing, let's be real she left him to live with her grandmother, now, they can still hang out, and he met a airi in the future. It was never meant to be.
The only thing that could be upsetting is that airi doesn't make a comeback. But she will.
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>>138958828

But...why, dude? As a result of Make Sure Kayo Is Never Alone, she became friends with everyone in Satoru's group. So it's not unreasonable or unrealistic for her and Hiromi to, at some point, ask one another out...because sometimes people do that with people from earlier in their lives. She wasn't somehow snubbing or cucking her long-since-comatose childhood friend by dating another childhood friend, unless your definition of cucking includes "liking someone else."
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>>138958889
There was literally no romance between Airi and Satoru, she was shoehorned into the ending because the mangaka didn't know how to end the manga. I'm getting some insane Airi fag vibes from your post.
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>>138958889
Why would Kayo hang out with Satoru? She's got a family to worry about now, Satoru and Kayo are just old friends now.
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>>138958957

>She wasn't somehow snubbing or cucking her long-since-comatose childhood friend by dating another childhood friend

You CAN NOT seriously believe this? If so, you must not have that many close bros...

Sucks that Satoru gets nothing in the end but to see others happy at his own expense. Eh. Guess that was the theme from the start..
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>>138959080
Well, yh, just old friends, it was either that or just forget about her after she left.
I don't see any other realistic way it could have ended.
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>>138959080
For the same reason any of this happened: no reason required
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>>138958957
This leaves a bad taste no matter how this is explained. It kind of seems like they assumed he wouldn't ever wake up so they just decided to let them do whatever the wanted to. I wouldn't be happy, but it would be better to of had Kayo to marry someone not in the group.
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>>138959140
>You CAN NOT seriously believe this? If so, you must not have that many close bros...

I have plenty of close bros, and if one of them was dating a chick and went into a coma for over a decade, I wouldn't go near that chick.

But there's a difference between "dating somebody that someone very close to you is in love with immediately after that person is out of the picture" and "dating somebody that someone very close to you had a childhood crush on before any of us had pubes and who none of us have seen in years and now we're young adults and that friend of ours has been comatose almost as long as we've been alive."

A friend of mine had a crush on a girl when we were both around 12. I wouldn't have made a move on her then. But if she moved away for eight years and that friend was in a coma, had been in a coma for years, and would probably never wake up...how would asking her out in those circumstances some kind of betrayal of that friend? It's not as though Hiromi went "YES, FINALLY, that ASSHOLE is out of the way!" or Kayo breathed a sigh of relief and whispered to Hiromi that he was always a bigger man than Satoru. It's literally three decent people being associated with each other as children, one person dropping out, the other two getting reacquainted later and falling in love. That happens. That's not egregious and it's not cuckolding.
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>>138959959

I believe that we already estabilished that this messy situation only exists because the author is a hack

No, there is no NTR or cucking whatsover (even though the situation is indeed quite like that), but it's plain bad writing
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Just when exactly did /pol/ memes start to leak everywhere?
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>>138959140
>gets nothing
Have you read the manga?
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>>138960230
Shit nigger, what are you implying? Airi doesn't love him, never did.
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>>138960180

So we can finally let the "Satoru got cucked"/"NTR"/"slut" meme die?
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>>138945452
This exactly. He went back to save her among others, not to get her to fall in love with him and you clearly see his joy once he accomplishes that mission for his own sake.

What shippers and baiters feed into is this problem idea that validation comes from others and not from the self and therefore you're entitled to the spoils of your efforts, especially if those efforts are put in other people (usually potential partners).

This is a story very much about self actualization and is the antithesis to the young adolescence mind set.
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>>138960468
>Life is about self actualization, don't you see?
>You're not entitled to the spoils of your efforts, Jamal knocking up your love instead is totally justified!

And that' why you're a cuckold.
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>>138939268
nothing at all. since the beginning i've been shipping satoru with airi so im safe. it felt creepy to me shipping satoru x kayo. hes an old men and she is a kid. gross. i ony can ship teenagers with older people max 30
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>>138960415

No, it's too funny for it to die now

>>138960468

He went back to save his mom, then he somehow rationalized that he had to save this random girl but in the process the author set a lot of things up between them that validated a romantic interpretetation between them, afterwards the author got lost in his own story and everything went downhill, lackluster villain, stupid plot develoments and devices like muh coma and muh amnesia to the point where he had to drag the ending because he had no clue in how to end things
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>>138960727
Thats fair
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>>138960683
g8 b8 m8
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I used to jerk off to traps, not anymore.
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>>138939268
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>>138960374

This. She was around to "believe in him" not "be in love" with.
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I'M MAD

I'M MAD AT THE WORLD
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>>138950132
>If you ever travel back in time, don't step on anything, because even the tiniest change can alter the future in ways you can't imagine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1IKioDLEh8
Satoru probably stepped on an ant that was meant to survive, sending ripples into the future and causing those people to never be born. It's best not to think too hard about time travel in fiction.
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>>138939268
Hiromi. I wouldn't mind it if he actually stayed cute and trapish, really. The fact that he got so fat makes my mad.
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I just finished reading the manga. does Satoru and Airi fug? :D
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In retrospect, everything sensei does makes the most sense out of anyone else in the series, even him being so nice in episode 10 doesn't seem as out of place anymore when you realize him killing Kayo and Hiromi is just so Satoru doesn't have to get NTR'd in the future, he was just trying to spare him the shame, which he obviously didn't appreciate.
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>>138939268
It's simply stupid, and whatever kind of conversation you have about the series end up in the same thing.
>yeah, it have tons of flaws but I liked it!
My fucking god.
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>>138953514
Holy keks
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>>138965338
You knew it was going to have a ton of flaws from day one, it was strong enough aside from that though that it was worse watching, in the end of lot of what really could have gone bad was avoided for the most part, author could really have jumped the gun and made the whole thing an awful mess but somehow avoided that, even though I don't think he's that great an author, it was just dumb luck that his strengths outweighed his weaknesses in this case which lead to everything being enjoyable mostly.
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How does one even pronounce netorare?
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>>138965511
N
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>>138965518
T
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>>138965518
E
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>>138965539
you fucked up
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>>138965530
>>138965539
Well done dumbasses, now I'm going to cry myself to sleep in order to forget this blunder.
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>>138939268
The faggots who shitposted an otherwise excellent show to death.
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>>138965587
the early shitposting was dumb, but your practically setting yourself up for this shit with tears right after Kayo shows up with her kid
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So the MC is the author's self insert, while Kayo is the author's long lost love and Airi is his wish fulfillment of having a younger cute girlfriend
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>>138965668
Why would he write a story where he cucks himself? Is he trying to relive those old times? Is he truly that big of a cuck that he's make his self insert a cuck as well?
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>this thread
Are there really people so dumb they can't understand a story as simple as this?
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>>138965714
Yes most probably he got cuck'ed. It's not that uncommon
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>>138946048
The two people that were supposed to die ended up living their lives together, and creating a new one.

The world balances itself out
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>>138965843
Excepted there si nothing about these rules, no explanations, nothing. It's bullshit and something you want to believe, thinking that the author is a good writer.
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>>138965947
>Rules
What?

It's bullshit because you shipped Kayo with Satoru, the guy that was said to like Airi in like chapter 2 of the manga by his own mom who he repeats dozens of times during the whole story about being unable to lie/hide his feeling from?
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>>138966063
I don't disagree that I shipped them but don't turn this into a shipping war. This is just very bad writing from the author, he could have easily avoided this but kept hinting at it.
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>>138966063

>being this retarded

I suppose you're forgetting everytime the mom or Satoru's classmates got wrong impressiona about Kayo and Satoru

Third party impressions means shit, anon
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Late to the story but what are they doing to the series. They couldn't hold it together for the 11 episodes without diverging and making the series end retardedly.

Horey shit what were they thinking.
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>>138952903
Well it makes sense if the girl is stupid.
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>>138966063
He was never said to like Airi.
Kayo and Satoru got just as much of those moments, and she is actually likeable.
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>>138947525
NO
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