Do you like football/soccer anime, /a/?
>>138886617
Hello, /a/'s management here.
Despite our best efforts, we have made egregious mistakes in Winter and have returned to the Spring Babbies. While we're looking to bounce right back up, we must run our roster poll once again:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/19VRpunJuR5A4xlaB9e9sE9MTan06YqfGpd4_bhADVG0/viewform
Inside you will find the poll's instructions, our current roster and a list of suggestions. This first round will be much shorter than usual as we believe not much has changed since the last time. Next week will be the second round where you will be able to select who do you want in or not.
Lastly, we're currently looking for some extra help as I (and only I) will not be able to help as much as I did in previous cups. As such, if you're interested in becoming a co-manager or even simply a tester, contact on of us in Skype (info inside poll as well).
Thanks for your time and support!
I don't know about anime but I'm dying for more Giant Killing chapters
>>138886780
cleaner/typesetter left
man /a/'s managers fucking sucks
we can only win against low tier babby teams
>>138886617
/hoc/ anime when?
>>138887120
You mean like /sp/?
>>138887120
It's all just RNG anyway
>>138887278
who cares about /sp/ mang, i'm from /a/ i'm not a crossboarder
>>138887318
>all
Nope, otherwise how would you explain teams like /u/, /mu/, etc constantly getting in the first 3-4 positions
I want /sp/ to leave. How do you people even find these out so quickly anyway?
>>138887318
Not entirely true. The best analogy would be weighted RNG, where good teams stay good most of the time with occasional hiccups and bad/average teams will remain that way until they git gud.I've admitted several times that I'm not that good and require lots of testing to be up to par, but even that wasn't enough in Winter as I really shat the bed in ways I thought I wasn't capable of. At least now I've learned from my mistakes and got a much better understanding of the game's meta, so hopefully things will be better from now on.
Posting best goalkeeper
Most of the people who vote won't even be around to watch the cup. As long as accelerator and bert stay I don't really care, though.
A couple starters and too much of the bench are old news. Megumin and muh NTR are probably guaranteed to get in, but I'd like to see Rory and Ein (unless /m/'s already claimed him).
>>138886632
I'd help out if it wasn't for my classes. Spring is probably the worst time for me.
>>138888426
I'd like to see fre/nda on the bench. Literally the last vestige of raildex memes.
>>138888426
We better replace all other goalies to Accelerators or at least his clones/look-a-likes/other forms
>>138889036
Well this image might be a starting point.
>>138889036
We'll actually poll that in the second round after asking the people in charge if we can really do it.
>>138887120
/out/ was fucking awesome. /u/ was almost there.
>>138886632
Why didn't you play Accelerator? You know he is the best keeper in the chanz.
>>138890693
>/u/ was almost there.
>>138891068
It still hurts.
>>138890759I was trying so hard to keep myself composed during that first match that I only paid attention to conditions. That was the least of my mistakes though.
>>138891068
>>138891307
It was pretty fun watching the lesbian team get dismantled and forced to ride /fit/'s shaft.
Up, down. Up, down. Up, down.
Please keep Accel this time.
>>138891484
I have him taking penalties from now on. I'm applying Madokami rules here: he's only leaving the pitch if he's purple AND the other GK is at least orange.
Drop:
Keit-ai (shitty forced meme)
Bert (because AoT is shit and irrelevant, at least until the new season in summer)
"That" (forced meme)
Giorgio (seasonal shit)
Spooky Ougi
Change:
Jojo to Josuke Higashikata (for Part 4 coming out)
OPM to Saitama/Caped Baldy
Add:
Kumiko Oumae/ADOLESCENCE (need a KyoAni rep since Mugi is getting swapped for Asuka)
Tsubasa
Spinzaku
Shinoa Hiiragi/Smug Anime Face
New LOGH Rep (Reinhard, Bittenfeld, Yang, anyone but Julian) or bring back Kircheis
>>138891450
>>138886617
Grew up in Latinamerica in the 90's. I'm required to like Captain Tsubasa. And I loved it.
I don't like others much though.
Is Spike still our savior?what about based bert
>>138891618
I disagree with Bert needing to be removed.
The rest you mentioned can go, including Worst Matsu, QUALITY, and Arararagi-kun. I only agree with Kumiko for the additions, though.
>>138891450
It was all over in a short amount of time.Just like their height.
>>138891618
Keep Bert.
I agree with Spinzaku.
>>138891618
>sack
>Bert
The only character from this season that needs to be added is Megumin. The rest are irrelevant.
Am I doing it right?
muh dick
>>138891752
Bebop didn't do much in Winter unfortunately. Bert actually got us a win over /b/ though, even if his goal was quite silly and the match underwhelming.
>>138891820
She's leading the nomination poll actually. Note the this doesn't mean she's guaranteed a spot.
>>138891978JIBUN WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>138891806
Oh please, only crossboarders still want Bert. His entire franchise sucks ass and the SnK threads are cancer filled with redditors and tumblrina fujoshits, keep that garbage away from the lineup.
>>138891618
>Sacking Bert
Who's gonna score then?
>>138892108
By that logic more than half of the characters currently on the roster would have to go.
>>138892108
>>138892192You're waifu.
>>138892192
Someone with the exact same cards and height/weight who will do the exact same thing.
Also forgot to add this cutie into contention.
>>138892222
Welp, Quads confirm. Purge the roster.
Who longlive here?
>>138892300
Nice dubs
>>138892300
>>138892311
>>138892321
HOT DAMN
>>138892311
>>138892300
Check em.
>>138889151
Do an all Accel/MISAKA team for friendlies, but don't fuck with things for the real Cup. At most, put an obvious Accel mask on the other goalies one time.
>>138892398
>accidentally tag a "one off"
>get one off
JUST
>>138892493
>Do an all Accel/MISAKA team for friendlies
If there are any.
>At most, put an obvious Accel mask on the other goalies one time
Like I said, it will be polled. Yes, even the mask option.
>not being a based /epl/ /a/ /nba/ bro
>>138891618
/a/ is a seasonal board. Just because your /vg/ buddies don't recognize all of the names doesn't mean we should get rid of the things that are relevant on /a/ right now.
The only thing you're right about is sacking Bert and Mugi.
>>138892699
But he's also right about bringing back LoGH.
>>138892699
>/a/ is a seasonal board
Exactly which is why some of those choices need to go and be replaced by seasonal choices and reps that have stood the test of time or have upcoming new materials coming out, which Hibike and LOGH do.
>>138892502
You have to end yourself now
>>138892699
also to add to >>138892917 I'm not from /vg/, I haven't gone near that board in years. Its literally the worst board on 4chan especially the general for this shit.
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>>138892917
>seasonal choices and reps that have stood the test of time
>>138892917
>seasonal choices and reps that have stood the test of time
We've had the same medal players forever now, how would you judge that a defense or mid fielder "proved himself" enough to take a medal from, you know, an actual player with better stats?
Also, make Inferno Cop gold and degrade Bert, like it was for autumn.
>>138893134
>stats
>mattering in a simulation game
Medals should be players that would be the coolest to lead a team and are big in /a/ culture.
I'm surprised that CODE GEASS hasn't been a medal before since that was one of the big historical livethreads on /a/.
>>138893254
Jibun wo is the goalhorn.
And yes, stats matter immensely in PES.
get Kageyama and make him a deep lying playmaker or have him play the #10
That's basically what he does in Haikyuu
is umaru still on the roster? how is she doing?
>>138893360
>Kageyama
That name is taboo in the cup.
>>138893369
Yes, but she hasn't seen much action recently.
>>138893254
The same could be said about Kamina, Korbo, OMK, and Molester Man, with the latter 2 not even being on the team, ever.
Also, stats do matter a lot; it'd be very, very hard for a gold medal player to be surpassed by one of the 77ers.
>>138893323
Stats over multiple events, especially when player types and cards constantly, don't mean jackshit they are pure coincidence.
Just because a player has X number of goals as the lead striker for more tourneys doesn't make him better then a new player with identical stat types.
Now actually vote based on reps you want to represent /a/ as a whole and not "muh stats" bullshit.
>Stay
Accelerator
>Go
Bert
>Add
Megumin
That simple.
>>138893415
why?
>>138893415
>That name is taboo in the cup.
How come?
>>138893360
>Haikyuu
Fuck no, go away Fujoshits.
>>138893415
>his name is taboo
The fuck? How?
>>138893423
And the player with the exact same stats as the gold will do the exact same job there as that gold did.
It doesn't fucking matter.
>>138893623
you're an idiot its not fujoshit
>>138893623
its not free u tard
>>138893658
Yes it fucking is.
It's as fujo as Free and YowaPedal
>>138893369
UMR was a sub
>>138893715
Confirmed for not knowing what the fuck you're even talking about. Haikyuu might possibly be the best sports anime of the last decade because it's not fujoshit, apart from all the other reasons.
>>138893715
You never watched Haikyuu, right?
>>138893551
>>138893623
"Kageyama" is one of the names an old /sp/ manager was using to cheat and control like 15 different teams.
>>138893939
Well, who cares, really.
>Bert scores golden boot
>SACK HIM HURRR DURR
>>138886632
Why is GuP Yukari still somewhat releant?
>>138894060
Demote him down to silver and give Inferno Cop the gold.
>>138893502
>>138893623
Oh, you meant players with the same stats. I thought you meant that the difference between medals and regular players didn't matter. My bad.
>>138893623
>And the player with the exact same stats as the gold will do the exact same job there as that gold did.
>It doesn't fucking matter.
What >>138894167 said.
Still, though, how do you propose we sort who gets the medals and who doesn't? Voters won't just change their minds all of a sudden.
>>138893715
its ok to admit your autism
>>138893715
Just say you hate sport anime while you're at it
>>138893939
even better
>>138894065
pls respond
I hope Ghost Manato gets in, I like ghosts
>>138891618
Change OPM to "Caped Baldy (Daiz)"
>>138895624
Eh, they still get threads, so might as well put it in the suggestion list.
Barely gets any votes though.
>>138894103
THIS
>>138886632
>>138887801
>NO
>PLAN
>B
>>138891450
It's down, up, down, up, down.
>>138892108
I'll watch /a/ crash out of spring with the wooden spoon without Bert.
>>138893939
How about this: instead of having Kageyama, or a Haikyuu character, we make one of the uniforms the Karasuno uniform, with the libero version for the goalkeeper.
>>138896367
>this meme again
Yes, there were plans B, C and D, they were just inferior to plan A (which worked a lot more often than you think) most of the time. Plan D won the /b/ match FYI.
And don't worry /sp/, you'll get your wooden spoon in Spring, no need to be humble and pass it on :^)
>>138896695
Doesn't /cm/ already have Karasuno uniforms?
>>138896950
Oh, shit, do they? Actually, don't they also have a Karasuno character playing?Just checked, and yes, they have Hinata.
Welp.
>>138891618
>Sacking Giorgio
Have you even watched the cup?
>>138897191
>Macintosh Plus - Giorgio goal
I regret nothing.
I like wrasslin anime TIGER MASK PV FUCKING WHEN
Just accept your permababby status already you shitters.
>>138897286
A E S T H E T I C
Sack Keitai, put in Ghostslide.
I only started watching this shit in the winter cup, but I have to ask.
Do names really matter?
>>138896827
>meme
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/133647218/#133684868
>plans B, C and D
>plan A (which worked a lot more often than you think)
Clearly still nowhere near enough, from the results.
>Plan D won the /b/ match
Which was a dead rubber. Now, would it even have salvaged a draw against /ck/ or /out/?
>/sp/
lel no
I'd rather they get the wooden spoon than /a/. I don't want /a/ to get the wooden spoon, and I fear that sacking Bert would mean a one way ticket to that end.
>>138898148
It's impossible to extrapolate from one game what will happen in the next ten even with the exact same settings.
/ck/ was slightly in our favor and /out/ was a 50-50. /b/ was the hardest team to test against and they lost every game that counted.
>>138898148
>>meme
He made a poor choice of words there. It wasn't 100% true.
>Clearly still nowhere near enough, from the results
You'd be surprised, honestly. And inability to make radical changes in the middle of the match is one of my shortcomings as a livemanager, as I was often afraid it'd come crashing down on us. 16 to me felt like a game of Jenga sometimes during Winter.
>Which was a dead rubber. Now, would it even have salvaged a draw against /ck/ or /out/?
With /ck/ probably not since we couldn't submit nightly exports and the 77 striker wasn't gonna do anything substantial against them, we were winning most of the time against all presets with the same two slightly different tactics anyway. With /out/ we were getting insanely good tests (like, 80% wins +25 GD in 10 games on average) against their killer preset 2 with what we had, believe it or not.Then it stopped working the night before and we assumed it was PES being cheeky. It wasn't the case. ;_;And no, this isn't me blaming >PES, I'm just saying what happened during the cup.
>lel no
What board, then? Also, Bert most likely isn't getting sacked, just demoted for the nth time.
>>138898089
They make things more fun.
>>138898148
>>Plan D won the /b/ match
>Which was a dead rubber. Now, would it even have salvaged a draw against /ck/ or /out/?
We son the rivalry.
Add:
Char
Kamina
Hitagi
Remove:
Keit-ai
"That"
Anyone else who sits on the bench every game.
Add some non-seasonal shit.
>>138898682
>/a/ got PES'd against /ck/
>/b/ got PES'd against /a/
Tests may be all you have, but it's still hard to trust them.
>>138898700
>He made a poor choice of words there. It wasn't 100% true.
I figured, but there still has to be some truth to it for him to even consider posting that in the first place.
>You'd be surprised, honestly.
>I'm just saying what happened during the cup.
If you're referring to tests, it's still pretty hard to trust them. I'd say it's because good livemanaging can easily make a supposedly shit formation work. You end up testing against that formation and win most of the time. Your opponent knows this so come matchday, they specifically livemanage so as to best counter the formation and setups you're most likely to use, and wreck you. The best ones know what to do regardless of situation (like /fit/'s manager), but this is the bare minimum.
>And inability to make radical changes in the middle of the match is one of my shortcomings as a livemanager, as I was often afraid it'd come crashing down on us.
Well it came crashing down anyway so hopefully you'd have improved on that.
>What board, then?
/a/. I've even thought about helping you guys test but I just haven't got the time. Also my laptop keeps sucking.
>Also, Bert most likely isn't getting sacked, just demoted for the nth time.
Should be fine as long as he remains a medal.
>>138898779
>We son the rivalry.
Wat
>>138900743
>>/a/ got PES'd against /ck/
>>/b/ got PES'd against /a/
Both are false.
>If you're referring to tests, it's still pretty hard to trust them
Thing is, PES 15 was a lot, and I mean A LOT more consistent when it came to testing. 16 isn't. Even then, it's better to trust the test results and use them as the foundation for the match's tactics than not.
>Your opponent knows this so come matchday, they specifically livemanage so as to best counter the formation and setups you're most likely to use, and wreck you
This is true for both sides, you know. You test against what they have, they test against what you have, and both employ their best tactics, or at least whatever worked best against a specific formation/set of sliders. It's what we did, and it's what /ck/ & /b/ did, yet you make it sound like we didn't (forgive me if I got you wrong there). Then if something goes wrong, you apply changes based on their current tactics and overall flow of the game.
>Well it came crashing down anyway so hopefully you'd have improved on that.
I try, but there's only so much I can do (and by crashing down, I mean literally getting BTFO, you have no idea how brutal this game can be when it wants to). Then again, I'd never really livemanaged a competitive match before that - everything else was either invitationals where people didn't try as hard (and had to do little anyway), or the /an/ match in Autumn where I was ridiculously burned out and couldn't find something to stop them in time, so I didn't care as much on that oneand ONLY that one. We had promoted already and that's what mattered at the time.
>/a/. I've even thought about helping you guys test but I just haven't got the time. Also my laptop keeps sucking.
Sorry then. From your first post you sounded like one of the /sp/ crossboarders that always find these threads. My bad.
>Wat
Pretty sure he meant "won"
>>138898726
This
>>138886617
Yes. I even subbed one, and a few OVAs.
>>138901379
>Both are false.
Oh well.
>16 isn't. Even then, it's better to trust the test results and use them as the foundation for the match's tactics than not.
Of course, since it's not like people have much of a choice in the matter. Doesn't stop tests from being hard to trust.
>You test against what they have, they test against what you have, and both employ their best tactics, or at least whatever worked best against a specific formation/set of sliders.
Wasn't what I was thinking. I'm more than sure everyone who tested did that, including you guys. What I was thinking was: you test against what they have, then you use what they have and test against what you have based on the tactics you would use assuming they don't change their tactics, then find out what works against your own team, set their tactics to that, and then test against that.
Even if it doesn't fully work out, it should help you adapt to your opponents' tactics better so as to increase your chances of winning. Put yourself in your opponent's shoes, understand them and their tactics, and you should get better.
>I try, but there's only so much I can do (and by crashing down, I mean literally getting BTFO, you have no idea how brutal this game can be when it wants to).
I've experienced that kind of shit in a different game before; get burned when you go to the next level. I've seen people who've tested numerous times get rekt many, many times in this cup. Unfortunately, nothing can truly substitute real experience.
>Sorry then. From your first post you sounded like one of the /sp/ crossboarders that always find these threads. My bad.
I doubt most of them here are /sp/ crossboarders to begin with. Considering the nature of this cup, it's only natural for people to enjoy memeing in these threads, regardless of the board.
>Pretty sure he meant "won"
I guess, but that match all but lost whatever significance it had.
>>138900743
>If you're referring to tests, it's still pretty hard to trust them. I'd say it's because good livemanaging can easily make a supposedly shit formation work.
For every game you guys get to watch, there are hundreds of games that the managers have ran (at least the ones that give a shit). Even the /fit/ manager probably lost dozens of games preparing for the tournament. It is rare to find a strong counter to all but the most poorly put-together strategies. And sometimes even when you know you have the optimal game plan for what the opponent is doing, it just doesn't work on match day, and all you can do is react to how the game is behaving that day and hope the momentum swings the other way.
Did we make mistakes? Absolutely. There are things we could have done differently that would have improved the chances of advancing. But I also don't think we fucked up so badly that we had zero chance. It was an extremely tight group; every game was decided by 1 goal except one was by 2 goals.
>>138886617
just take inferno cop out
team has been shit since he is in
>>138891618
>"That" (forced meme)
Seriously. What the hell was this shit? I wasn't lurking enough.
>>138902834
I rated /out/ highly even before Winter 2016 started which would mean the best /a/ could hope for was second place. I didn't think you guys would definitely make it, especially since Bittenfield had left right after autumn, but losing the first 2 matches was no less disheartening.
>all you can do is react to how the game is behaving that day and hope the momentum swings the other way.
This is true. But I get this feeling that in PES, small changes rarely ever work when you're trailing, and you need significant changes to have any chance of making a comeback. One of the shortcomings listed was the inability to make such changes.
If you're leading though small changes should be fine.
>It was an extremely tight group; every game was decided by 1 goal except one was by 2 goals.
Going by /ck/'s and /out/'s past matches, I'd rather attribute it to them being able to grind out narrow wins where it mattered. /a/ lost much of that factor when Bittenfield left, and /b/ just flopped hard.
>>138902834
Things were hopeful against /ck/, except the back line fucked up.
