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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://bitlasers.com/djt

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>>138708011
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
I would like to instil in people just to work hard. As long as they keep at it, their dreams will happen.
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Report the dupe so we don't have a general split >>138728527
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>>138728569
There are four of them, mate.
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>>138728569
>>138728611
Report these ones too:

>>138728525
>>138728548
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Oh jeez.

We are so going to get banned.
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>>138728438

To be clear, I was only giving an example.

This came up in my thought when I was thinking about how they say Japanese is a "pictorial" language.
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threads.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's that guy false flagging and spamming a thread on his phone/proxy/computer etc.
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>>138728689

I checked before I made my thread(the one with the gif) and I didn't see any others up. Seriously did a search.

The only shitposter is the guy who did the Yuno one.
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Let's talk about manga.

みんな最近何を読んでるの。この2週間で面白い本とかVN読んだ?
僕は遮那王義経という漫画を最近読みつくした。とても面白く、日本の歴史をすくしでも興味を持つアノンにおすすめしますよ。

みんな何読んでるの。読んでるときに印象は?どんなに難しく読んだりしたとか?
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>>138728726
>I checked before I made my thread
The catalog takes a while to update, so this sort of stuff is bound to happen when you have multiple competing OPs.
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Shit like this is why we use a single image since it won't let you create multiple threads with the same image. Stuff like varying OP images is for when a new thread isn't made literally instantly like here.

Anyways, quit talking about it and just move on. Don't give them even more reason to ban us by devolving into meta shit.
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>>138728658
My bad then. But my point still stands, unless you got a study backing it up, I don't think such a claim could be made by anybody.
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something something nihon
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>4 threads
This is why we use the same image for the OP so you don't get duplicates even if 10 people try to make the thread at the same time
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>>138728857
DJT didn't used to have new threads made literally within 5 seconds of the old thread dying, so this wasn't really an issue before since the threads usually took anywhere from 5 minutes to a few hours for a new one to pop up, meaning varying images wasn't a problem in those cases.
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>>138728773
>みんな何読んでるの
何回聞くんだお前

>どんなに難しく読んだりしたとか?
は?

ところで俺は何も読んでないからここで糞レス書くしか時間の使い方がない
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>>138728857
Janny, can you delete the dupe threads? Thanks.
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>>138728975

Mods are asleep, learn Japanese!
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>>138728773
漫画とか読んでほしいんだけど, どんな漫画を読んでいいかどうか分からん。バーテンダーかな。
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What's the quickest way of learn kanji /a/?
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>>138729043
By not.
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death to imouto
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>>138729043
WaniKani, friend. Be sure to buy the lifetime subscription for only $299!
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>>138729043
Buy physical copies of the RTKs and a 10 year WaniKani subscription. You'll be fluent in about that time.
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>>138729043
You'll never learn kanji.
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>>138729082
了解!
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Time for the anon from the /qa/ thread to shit up the thread and link it as "evidence".
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>>138729185
Whatever man, nobody cares about his tantrum, just report him. Replying to him isn't gonna change anything. He's been shitting up the threads for days now.
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>>138729043
Through vocab.
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>>138729082
Is this the new meme for the cool kids?
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>>138729082
どうでもいいんだ
djtの全員を殺せばいいんだよ

死による勉強する
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>>138729146
He will, if he takes charge of his destiny with the power of WaniKani.
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how do nips talk so damn fast jesus christ

do we eventually become that good? I can't keep up with the recorded sentences in Core 2k/6k
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where can i get the patch for this?
literally every link i check is dead.
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>>138729455
They don't actually talk particularly fast, in all honesty.
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>>138729455
Read more, and focus on meaning, not sound.
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>>138729039
どんな漫画でもよくない?面白そうと思ったらよんでみてもいいかも。バーテンダーってこれhttps://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=4904

一度authorさんのインタービュ記事を読んだんだけど、なかなか面白いauthorさんとの印象はいまでもまだ残っています。内容は何かもう覚えてないけどww。

バーテンダー読んだら面白いかもよ。読みたかったらよんでよんで。私はつぎ「リュウロウデン」か「私がモテてどうすんだ」をよむかも。
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>>138729455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzbUPfoveok
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>>138729455
>I can't keep up with the recorded sentences in Core 2k/6k
Do you actually listen to Japanese stuff like anime or you're watching everything dubbed? How can the recorded sentences seem fast, honestly.
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>>138729495
Just mount the ISO and play it like that.
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My friend said I'm a weeb because I'm learning Japanese.

But we both watch anime and read manga, and he even jerks off to hentai, which I don't.

Am I more of a weeb than he is? Or are we both just fucking losers and there's no point?
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>>138729565
It worked. Thanks anon.

and wow, since when was mounting iso a built-in feature of windows?
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>>138729643
No idea.
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お前らは我輩に屈服するのみですよ
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>>138729630
>friend
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>>138729630
who cares youre both gay and should diddle each other if you dont already
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>>138729702
お前の場合、精液飲みなんだけどね
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>>138728726
>The only shitposter is the guy who did the Yuno one.
That thread was created 1 second after this thread, so in all likelihood there weren't any threads up when that thread was made either.
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>>138729630
Now that it's clear that you're the bigger weeb in the relationship, you need to take responsibility and wear anime themed outfits whenever he comes over.
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>>138728524
You see this: >>138729419
This is why these threads don't belong on /a/, because they attract nothing but shitposting idiots.
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>>138729541
面白いな。まあ、バーテンダーのアニメ見たことあるんだけどさ。漫画読むかも。アノンさんの意見を与えたありがとな。俺は読もうと思う。
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>>138729839
He's an anime poster on /a/. Your logic is pretty inconsistent.
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>>138729839
like a moth to a flame
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>>138729839
Report and hide
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>>138729867
>>138729872
Stop replying to the /qa/ faggot.
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>>138729895
I've been doing that but these threads are still here.
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>>138729911
Then live with it
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>>138729911
Just wait until the mods delete them.
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>>138729898
ill do what i wanna do dude
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I'm taking my very first baby steps to learning this goddamn language. Or at least learning how to read it.

What is a good "beginner goal?" Are there simple documents where you can say, "if you can comprehend this, you're on the right track?" I need material.
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>>138729898
Oh look, you're got a new scapegoat for the shit this general has attracted. This is almost biblical.

>>138729928
>Just wait until the mods delete them.
The general itself, not these individual threads.
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>>138729951
Report and hide.
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>>138729940
You need to read the guide. Also, Yotsuba is usually considered Babby's first manga. But do grammar and vocab first, or you'll drown.
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>>138729940
You've reached the first step when you can translate the example sentences in core.
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>>138730020
Stop using the word translate. Comprehend is better.
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>>138729940
これを読むことができれば、まだ何もわかっちゃいないぜ
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Thanks mods.
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>>138730086
for what
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>>138730069
Fair enough, but I always translated them and then compared the result with the official one.
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>>138730124
Yeah actually, translating in your head is part of the process of comprehension when you're at baby core level.
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>>138729841
I'm going to go out now, but I'll ask you next time about the Bartender anime. Cheers anon, また.
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>>138729630
if you can read a legitimate book, you cease to be a weeb.
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>>138730214
バーテンダーはじいちゃんのためにアニメだぞ
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>>138730214
Sure, またなアノンくん.
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>>138730309
じいちゃんってなんだよ。
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Is な the more male sounding version of ね?
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>>138730339
とっちゃんのとっちゃんとか
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>>138730399
no
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>>138730399
Short answer: no. Long answer: partially. Tae Kim covers it in one of the ending particle section. It also has a nuance of 'speaking to yourself'. With ね you ask the people for agreement, with な you're wondering for yourself.
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>>138730479
気をつけろよな
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>>138730526
気をつけらへんどうすんなよお前は。
Okay now I should probably stop trying to use 大阪弁 because I'm sure I fucked up something.
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五輪

Nice.
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>>138730399
One big thing that makes it different is that if you put it after dictionary form it becomes negative command so 感動するね and 感動するな have completely different meanings
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>>138730632
>>138730632
なんでやねん
黙っててくれへんか
痛いやん
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>>138730847
>>138730479
>>138730439
Thanks アノン様君達
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Wow, the autist just made another 3 threads.
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>>138730956
thanks for the heads up im sure this is productive in making sure this one doesnt suck
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>>138730956
Report and ignore them.
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>>138731218
届けない
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>Practiced for a year
>quit for a year
>see OP image on catalog
>remember and instantly feel like shit
I'm back DJT, let's see how long it takes me to quit again.
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>>138731705
いってらっしゃい
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>>138731753
>いってらっしゃい
おかえり、だろう
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>>138731705
This time do it the right way - the WaniKani way.
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>>138731705
>quitting after a year
How far in were you? I can't imagine quitting that long considering by then the bulk of your study is likely reading compelling content.
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>>138731792
どうだろうな
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>>138731828
Epic lad, you are so funny and intelligent
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>>138725553
>i dont like that scale because i feel it is missing 6-10
Do you mean you want 5 VNs more difficult than Muramasa, or you want 5 VNs of medium difficulty in-between the current 5?
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>>138731865
i think the scale itself is bunk from the start but muramasa isnt really near the top of difficult text, imo
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>>138731865
Not him, but I'd like the latter and with more examples for each (if possible, ones that are commonly brought up or mentioned)
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>>138728773
漫画じゃないけど、昨日アニメ版を見て面白かったんで原作をもう一回読もうと思う。
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H-how am I doing?
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>>138732156
You are now Japanese
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>>138732156
On your first fifteen minutes of study?
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今日は遅いな
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Anons, how do you translate "望み通りにならない事なんてない". It would not be simple as "I have nothing I desire" right?
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>>138729455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTOckbE6BTQ

Keep going at it, after some time they don't sound as fast as you think they are.
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>>138732638
I think it's 'There's nothing that doesn't turn out as I wish it.'
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>>138732638
there isnt a damn thing that doesnt go the way i want it to
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>extensive reading with LN+texthooker
Is objectively the best way to learn?
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>>138732779
Best way to learn is to read whatever you like consistently while mining
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>>138732779
The best way to learn is with compelling content.
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>>138732779
by itself its not but you arent going to get the best ways for free from djt so thems the breaks
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>>138732779
This >>138732803 >>138732855
>want to learn Japanese for untranslated content
>learn Japanese by reading untranslated content I enjoy
It's pretty great.
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>>138732872
You sound salty.
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>>138732928
why i was just letting him know the truth straight up from the get go before anyone else could get to him with their foolishness
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>Wake up
>See people spamming threads
I hope the wrong mod doesn't wake up and see this first.
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>>138733222
>people
It's that one incredibly angry DJT-hating anon who made the /qa/ thread. He's been doing it since this thread was made.
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That anon need professional help.
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この瞬間、僕はルンルン。偽神の祝福は理性でない。
しかし、ので僕の知性によって開眼した。
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>>138733263
Some people just can't deal with it and snap when they realize that they can't learn Japanese.
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>>138733351
>フェドラを傾けます
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>>138733351
u wot
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>>138733351
さあ、いつも通りのように自閉症的なコメントを書きましょうよ
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>>138732779
Yeah, in a combination with actual conversation with real people.
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>>138733451
メイト
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What the fuck is wrong with this guy? I don't think I've ever seen something so autistic in my life.
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>>138733351
これが無神論の力かよ…
大したもんじゃねぇか…
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>>138733702
実はイエス最高だ
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>>138733698
they don't call him the argumentative autist for nothin
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>>138733698
I'm not really sure. I'm reporting the threads as they're popping up, but I'm not really sure what he's hoping to achieve from this. Does he think the mods are going to go "okay this one guy is being annoying on purpose so your threads are banned now"? Someone should tell him about the filter feature or show him generals that are worse than this one.

I wouldn't call any more attention to it than we already are though. It's enough to let people know it's happening / that he's spammed over 20-30 threads in the past couple hours so they can watch and report. We should try to keep this thread on-topic.
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I don't get why is he hang out in djt in the first place. Seems like an odd place to hang around in the first place for anybody that doesn't even actively learning japanese.
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>>138733775
your post is doing a great job to keeping things on topic thanks for the heads up
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>>138733813
No problem man, right back at you. Just doing my part. What are you reading right now?

Also, this "select ____ until there are none left" captcha is really annoying. The transition for new images to pop up is too long.
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Does hitting again on new cards effect my % correct for the day?
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>>138733848
the last thing i read was like kakujika also you gotta get a 4chan pass to put your posting in the fast lane
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>>138733893
Yes. Just hit "good" the first time you see new cards, especially if you plan on using custom study for forgotten cards. If you want that extra step from hitting "again" the first time, then go to the deck options and change the "1 10" to "1 1 10"
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あのあをいほしに

あいを

おにいちゃんに

おにぎりを
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>>138733894
Not him, but how how is that in terms of difficulty?
I've really been meaning to read it for a while, but I'm still somewhat of a beginner.

I'm assuming you mean かくかくしかじか
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>>138734026
i guess its fairly easy also yes thats the one

its really good also
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>>138734097
Okay thanks.
I guess I'll have a go at it to gauge the difficulty at least.
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Is there a way to view older public bans than what shows up on http://www.4chan.org/bans ? Like an archive for bans?
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お尻愛
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>>138734333
お知り合いじゃないの?
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>>138734314
you can search the archive for posts that were deleted
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難読漢字テスト
次の漢字の読み方をひらがなで答えよ
会釈
代替
曲者
流石
雰囲気
健気
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>>138734454
えしゃく
だいがい
きょくしゃ
さすが
ふんいき
けんき

I think I got about half right
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>>138734454
かいえき
だいき
ゆうしゃ
りゅうせき
???
けんき
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>>138734454
ちゃんとAnkiしてるおにいちゃんには
にちじょうちゃめしごとだね

>>138734498
3/6
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>>138734498
3/6
>>138734518
0/6 fuck
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>>138734454
Just got 曲者 wrong.
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>>138734454
>雰囲気
Why do people always include this in such lists? It's like the most common word in the Japanese language, even a beginner should know it. You might as well put 今日 in.
also I didn't know 代替 or 曲者
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>>138728524
Stop spamming your shitty fucking general on the rest of /a/.
We don't want you here and have no idea why on earth this shit isn't on /jp/ or /int/ like it should be.
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>流石
>雰囲気
After more than 10 year living in Japan, I've never seen anyone use the other words in that list, so no need to even memorize them, I guess.
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>>138734711
It's not us, it's someone who's mad at us.
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>>138734711
If you're the anon who was spamming and are just here to false flag, then fuck off.

If you're a random /a/ user and noticed the board getting spammed to hell, then we apologize, there's an incredibly angry autist who hates DJT for not catering to him, so he decided to throw a ragefit on /qa/ and then spam /a/ with bogus threads to piss the mods off after /qa/ didn't listen to him. We generally try to do a good job of making sure there's only ever one thread up at a time.
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>>138734631
今日 is in a lot of Core deck tho.
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How do I say "Thank you for x/Sorry for x"?

>X はあろがとう
>X はごめんなさい

Is that right?
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Does anyone have a site that provides mnemonics for a large amount of kanji? I've always used kanjidamage but it's got a pretty limited amount
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>>138734631
I don't know why but 雰囲気(ふんいき) is often pronounced as ふいんき or ふーいんき so not a few Japanese misunderstand.
maybe It's a easier question for a non-native Japanese speaker than for a Japanese.
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>>138734884
And 雰囲気 is in anon core 5k
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>>138734904
noitariことばをつかうといいとおもうよ

>こうじんのいたり
>せきめんのいたり
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>>138733702
あのシーンは泣けた
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日本でも有名なミームだったな

"ふいんき(何故か変換できない)"
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曜日の週どちらが好き?
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>>138735277
日本人は馬鹿だね~
俺は外人なのに、日本人より日本語を知ってるw
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>>138735356
"どの曜日が好き?"

こっちの方が日本語っぽいよ

好きなのは金曜
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>>138735356
土日が待ち遠しい!!
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ひどいよ
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Just finished Tae Kim. Should I start doing a DoJG or Tae Kim anki deck to review the grammar? Which would be better?
I didn't think about that when I started to read Tae Kim's Guide.
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>>138735813
Neither and start reading ASAP.
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>>138735720
God damn I should reread yotsuba shit's too adorable
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>>138735824
So just referencing either of the books when I have trouble with something will be enough?
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>>138735813
読め
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>>138735840
yep
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I'm struggling to put together a sentence and I need some help. I know someone that's kind of sad and they say they're leaving their blog. How can I tell them that I hope they feel better and come back soon?
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>>138735858
はやくなおさないとね

あとでちんちんをたべてあげる
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>>138735858

「死ぬと戻りません!」
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>>138735858
早く帰ってこないとどうなるか解ってんだろうなおいィ?
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>>138735858
早くなおりますように。
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>>138735858
元気になくなって!
直ぐ返るな!

It means:

Get well.
Come back soon.
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>>138735858

>>138735936
>>138735951
>>138735967

These three are playing tricks on you friend, saying stuff like "go eat shit" and "please suck my dick.


You need to go with these. You can combine them and they mean well.

>>138735875
>>138735888
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>>138735858
Just write it in English.
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>>138735979
BEST FUCKING ADVICE right here.
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>>138729043

U suppose to learn kanji without grammar or what?

Only systematic studying would make it worth the effort. Just Download Minnano Nihongo or something and get started. There are a few apps that would be helpful (like obenkyo) but this shit is absolutly pointless without studying program.
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俺、ちんぽの感染症がある。。。痛いね。。。血尿がある。。。ペニスを切断したい。。。助けて!
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>>138736137
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>>138736137
医師を見てもらえ!
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How do I >tfwnogf in nipchong?
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>>138736274
童貞道
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>>138736274
彼女のない気持ち
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>>138736274
>彼女がいないの気持ち
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>>138736352
same thing bro
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>>138736352

you forgot "the face when" part
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>>138736441
>the face when
What?
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>thread wars
you never fail to entertain DJT. i look forward to seeing how all of this will end
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>>138736274
>無女気持
>むおんなけもち or むおんなきもち
>noun.
>the feeling upon having no female company

Original word, do not steal.
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>>138736502

its literally just some autist going on a beta uprising because he doesn't get to have his shitty speshul edition OP image
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>>138735720
>そりゃうそだ
>あはは
BTFO
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(ヽ´ω`)オ令和にっぽんのアニメです!!!(●´ϖ`●)
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>>138736523
>けもち
死ね
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>>138736695
It's supposed to be a pun based on 女気 (おんなけ) which means "female presence".
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>>138736553
In any case we should probably just stop talking about it/being baited into arguments, regardless of on which side you stand, as it seems to inevitably escalate. I'm pretty suprised by how lenient the mods have been with us these last weeks actually, all things considering.

By the power invested in me by Anki and ten of thousands of reps, this will be last post I ever make on the topic.
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>>138736695
Stop. You are as bad as that autist anon.
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>牝堕ち巨乳妻は俺のモノ is out
Time to grind some reading / steal some waifus.
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>>138731929
>muramasa isnt really near the top of difficult text, imo
In terms of VNs I struggle to think of what could surpass it, aside from a couple mareni titles, but even they aren't so much harder to necessitate Muramasa dropping a tier.
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Learnt Japanese some time ago and did this on the wall.
Used to see this and wake up and get pumped, I stopped and now it's just there.
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>>138736553
Whatever helps you sleep at night, anon.
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>>138737243
>anim
Boo, boo. boo
>>138737311
>Learnt Japanese some time ago
Yeah OK
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What's the Ulysses of Japan?
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>>138737311
Don't know why it rotated it looks fine on my phone . Flipp it 90 degrees or tilt your head left
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>>138737345
Fate Stay Night
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>>138737330
I mean I was learning it actively every day and stuff then I stopped anki and everything. I still read though
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>>138737357
Say no more senpai
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>>138737311
That looks like aids, ain't no one asking you to draw shit on the blackboard before graduation
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>>138737330
What's wrong with that? Regardless, art is by Kou who is always top tier when it comes to mature ladies.
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>>138737311
Ah fampai, that's super shit.
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>>138737464
Here we go.
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>>138736523
While were doing this I'll define 私婦 to be read as ワイフ
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>>138737357
It's because your shitty phone didn't actually rotate the image after you took it but displayed it to you as if it had the correct orientation. And 4chan deletes metadata.

>>138737409
>png
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>>138737486
>png
Why waste both our time
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3巻までよんでみたよ

なんだかせっきょうくさい原作だなあとおもうよ

作画には艶がないとおもうよ。せっかく漫画なのにデフォルメが少なすぎて水っぽい
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>>138737613
なんという漫画ですか
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聖→性 is the greatest kanji substitution
Thank you, Japan
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>>138738241
また一人、日本の変態文化の犠牲者が...
日本の罪は大きい
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そういう外人は学術書の粘性:viscosityにも興奮しそうだなあ
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>start learning japanese
>get through close to 2k kanji
>stop because of business and the kanji catching up to me
>year later
>try again
>remember so little it's depressing
>think about how if I had stuck with it I'd be able to read simple manga at worst
>stop again

It's only going to continue like this if I don't jump back on right now. I have less time than ever to learn, but I can do it!

I'm making a promise to you DJT, today is the day I start again, wish me luck!
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>>138738820
できない
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Anki showed me this same card twice in a row in core2k6k, I suppose it's normal and everyone experienced this?

Never seen anyone mentioning it around here though so I'm wondering.
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>>138738820
あきらメロン
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These passive voice is confusing the hell out of me. So "好きって言われた" is "I've been confessed to?"
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>>138738880
Yeah. There are some exact duplicate cards in the deck. Just go in and manually delete the duplicate.

Thanks for the heads up on the particular card btw.
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>>138738880
Maybe because it can also be read うんどうば? Cores pretty bad like that
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>>138738400
>>138738707
どういたしまして
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>>138738966
The first : 3093 2569 2511
The second : 3260 2570 2512

>>138738974
Both are じょう here though, same exact sentence and audio.
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>>138739010
Hmm weird
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>>138738820
Good luck anon!

I was just learning about ようにする and how it roughly means "make an effort too"
An example it gave was like
毎日, みずを飲むようにする (this was the exact example, I'm just trying to practice a little)
How would I do this for するverbs?
For example I want to study Japanes every day.
毎日 日本語をべんべんきょうするようにする?
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>>138739055
Wasn't*
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>>138739055
>べんべんきょう
勉強 dawg what're you doing
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>>138739055
勉強するようにする
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Why did they even bother putting in these dumb ass pictures?
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>>138739234
>when you drink water
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>>138739055
>べんべん
(ㆁωㆁ*)
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>>138739224
Thanks
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>>138739277
Oops, sorry about that, I even reread it too.
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i have like 16 months left of my post-911 gi bill so i think im gonna take a language school course in japan

anyone can recommend a site where there's reviews of language schools over there?
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>>138739456
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>>138739456
Jesus Christ, don't waste your money on shit before at least reaching intermediate level.
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>>138739433
りっぱなにほんごだよ

太棹を撥で鳴らすときにつかうよ

>べんべん

太棹:三味線の一種
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>>138739532
you dont seem to understand the concept im putting forth


i got 16 months left of basically free money to live in japan and be teached professionally

its a waste to not go
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>>138737467
#triggered
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>>138739695
By a spooky skeleton?
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>>138739681
>i got 16 months left of basically free money
How does that work? I wouldn't bother if you aren't already in Japan and have the ability to pocket the money.
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>>138739788
>How does that work
> my post-911 gi bill
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Bill#Chapter_33_.28Post-9.2F11_G.I._Bill.29
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