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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://bitlasers.com/djt

Previous Thread: >>138622484
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話せば分かる!
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はそっ
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Anyone know what the last character is? I tried drawing it several times and got nothing
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>2chan
>ふた channel

>4chan
>よつ channel
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>>138658404
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>>138658436
Thank you
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>do anki reps at 9pm
>fail like every third young card

>do anki reps at 8am
>manage 200 reviews with only two or three relearns

Remember to always start your day with Anki, DJT!
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>>138658404
>>138658462
部首知っていませんのか?
日と頁と疋で作りました
すごく簡単ですよ
学べ
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>>138658405

When I was first starting I fucking despised the different ways of counting things.
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>>138658490
>Usually do reps some time between 10pm - 2am
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>>138658528
3 years later and I still do
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>>138658490
It seems like the opposite for me.
The other day I did my reps at 3am and did amazingly well, even remembering words that I always seem to fail.
Might just be a coincidence though.
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>>138658531
same, precisely. to be specific, i start at 10 pm and finish at 2 am.
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>>138658543

Counting generally and to a lesser extent counting days is the one thing I always feel I need to keep revised on
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>>138658404
その太鼓の達人バージョンはどれですか。

also I love/hate taiko's font, it looks good but the stroke style can really catch you off guard with some otherwise extremely simple characters
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>>138658618
I love/hate it too for the same reason
I thought pic related was む for the longest time
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Why are Japanese emojis so based

I quite like ( ̄▽ ̄)
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>>138658798
キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!
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>>138658490
>>138658560
Well, good thing Anki has a graph for success rate for each hour of the day. Post'em.
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what happened to nama sensei's videos? they're all private and i can't get my daily fill of bitch and beer
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>>138658990
It's his way of letting you know you didn't need him all along. The bitch was within you all along.
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>>138659000


th-thanks
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>>138658907
キタ━━━(゚∀゚)━━━!!
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>>138659051
Actually I'm retarded I read it the wrong way. I'm going to delete my post out of embarrassment.
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>>138659071
I don't know what you posted but I'm going to look on an archive and laugh.
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>>138659066
That としあき anon sure is fucking dank.

>>138659071
キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!
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>mfw 「嫌い」 is actually 「な」 adjective and not 「い」 adj

how many irregular conjugates do we have in japanese besides the above and 来る?
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さちあれ!
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>>138659108
行く conjugating to 行った and 行って instead of 行いた and 行いて is an important one to remember.
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>>138659108
嫌い isn't regular in the sense that 来る is.
Here is a list of irregular conjugations:
https://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/変格活用
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>>138659159
>行(い or ゆ)く
>行(い/おこな)った
>行(おこな)いて

行いた、と書けるにほんごをみたことはないよ。あたしの不勉強かもしれないよ

がんばってAnkiしてね。おにいちゃん
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>>138659232
>あたし
女ね、俺が猛牛を素手で倒せるのをどう思う君?
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>>138659288
お前ボケだぞ
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>>138659343
ボケって?でも牛を一撃できるのがバカなことと見えないだろうな…だろう?
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>>138659288
>>138659417
べこしばいて
べこべこにする
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Question:
Do body parts use ある or いる for existence?

Eg.
(My) hand is in (my) pocket

手がポケットの中にある
or
手がポッケトの中にいる

Which one is correct?
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>>138659704
>ポッケト
ignore that
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>>138659505
全然わからへんねんこれね
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Are there any IMEs out there that autocorrect わ to は and お to を?
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>>138660109
NおおB
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>>138659704
「は」でくっついて「ある」でおわるとおもうよ

>手はポケットの中にある

「が」でくっついて「いる」で終われるのは
生きている動物だけだよ

>小鳥がポケットの中にいる
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I have a kana writing test soon. Give me some exercises that involve using both hiragana and katakana :3
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>>138660545
http://realkana.com/
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Damn, some N1 grammar is pretty fuckin retarded. That said I could probably drill the nuanced meanings into my head with enough practice.
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>>138660545
Do you just need to write them or do you get marked for your penmanship?

か, ろ, る and え are all hard to get right.
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>>138660545
2/10 got me to reply
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>>138660728
I can read them I just need to be able to hand write them.
Give me some sentences senpai :3
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need a decent, free program (not anki ffs) to help me learn kanji

I was using wanikani and it was going ok because I needed the handholding until the little shit started asking for a subscription to keep going so I dropped it

I will never learn Japanese.
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>>138660999
Learn kanji through vocab, you dummy.
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Quick someone tell me how to remember that 戚 is せき
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>>138661052
read more
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>>138661069
I read all the fucking time but have only ever seen that word like once

The only reason I have difficulties with it is because I encountered 親睦 and 親戚 at the same time and now they're both mixed up in my head
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睦ぼく
陸りく
戚せき
威い
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>never managed to remember kana spellings
>somebody recommends adding audio to my deck
>remember everything now

thanks /djt/
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>>138661280
Damn that's pretty good, never again will those two words give my problems, thanks
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>仕事をするのを断れば
>仕事をし断れば

どっちが正しいかな
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>>138661090
>親戚
Just remember it as a set. I never see 戚 used anywhere else either. Not that I read a lot but from the things I read, it's either 親戚 or 姻戚
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威力の威
親戚の戚
静寂の寂

I can recognized.
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>hear character speaking in Kyoto dialect
Every time.
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>>138661663
関西弁はもっと気持ち悪いじゃん?
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>>138661598
??? What are you doing ???
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>>138661725
I prefer reading a physical copy.
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>>138660999
>handholding
nayr is making something but its not out yet, and i sont know if it will cost money

if ankis lack of context is your problem, tagaini jisho might be usable, but its even less intuitive to use for flash cards. great dictionary though
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>>138661598
>the shills claim another victim
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>>138661974
>shills for a freely available, useful resource
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>>138661753
acquire a tablet and read it like that
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>>138662011
>book
>free
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>>138660999
>need a decent, free program (not anki ffs) to help me learn kanji
Why not Anki?
Anyway, you're not going to like this but here is a solution that will more or less force you to "learn" kanji.
Work through Remember the Kanji, book one, using Anki with a good RTK deck.
This link has both the book and deck- neat.
https://mega.nz/#F!CMtGhCzD!2Yw8vL8jw3vei7QkGyno-w

OR

Work your way through Kanji Damage, using the website for reference and a good KD deck in Anki.
www.kanjidamage.com/
Choose one of these
Official KanjiDamage deck REORDERED
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1917095458
KanjiDamage Plus+ deck
https://mega.nz/#!CQg0SKyI!Ufho0RKmmW8P6XRx8KiDY1JeAXoGOgmjrEscayil8cA

OR go straight into a kanji deck. I suggest one of the following:
Kanji production deck with stroke order diagrams, RTK/frequency/etc. orders, example words, keywords, readings, etc.
https://mega.nz/#!jx0TUSyJ!Rohq5IgT3JDRHtBN5e4VLXHzY8i9SniF9EhrlzHbVSI
Kanji by Frequency with Stroke Animations
mega:///#!EMQRBa4C!o8o5g1SAVQcA9L3kxcidgLkpFAowt2q5sUju_pNfKuE
All in One Kanji Deck
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/798002504

Do this alongside something like the Core series decks avaliable in the CoR -I recommend the Core10k deck- and it will be almost impossible not to "learn" kanji. It also takes fuck all effort and you will retain the knowledge. In six months time you will know more about kanji than you will likely be able to forget. That will be enough for everything you will likely want to study in relation to kanji, unless you want to take a crack at Kanken some time later. Realistically I just gave you the steps and instructions that will product better and faster results than wanikani, for free.
DJTへようこそ
どうぞごゆっくりなさってください
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まくらが難解
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fajFNtZq54
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>>138662414
I know this kills it, but could you please explain the joke?
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>>138662458
sure, if you don't find it yourself soon enough
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>>138662475
My bad, I'm guessing that was the entire context? I assumed you cut out the relevant part of the statement which I assumed would have fallen after ー. Is that Jisho?
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>>138662547
that's the whole entry. it's a freq dict of japanese. it has all sorts of minor errors. in this case, the japanese example sentence literally doesn't have the japanese word
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>>138662625
Pretty awkward for such a publication.
It at least expresses the concept, I guess.
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>>138662218
more music like in the beginning please
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>>138661923

Its not the lack of context, but the lack of input. Wanikani forced me to learn through writing shit.

The way anki works with trying to learn in your head with only a couple of buttons to press if you learned it or not wasn't interactive enough for me.

What I'm looking for is a free version of wanikani. I think it's the best for retards like me who can't learn normally.
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>>138662739
so use the on screen whiteboard to draw before reveling the answer
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>>138662684
imo they were forced to publish before they had enough editing time. theres a lot of variation in whether parts of speech contractions have periods at the end too, and amari ia marked wrong. still, the actual frequency list is a lot better than what i could make and the long prologue essay on the purpose and work put into making it is pretty good

>>138662739
you can have text fields in anki too, but you still have to pre fail.hard.etc yourself. check tha manual for info
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Guys, can you help me understand something? I'm playing めぐりあう2人の名探偵 on the ds. Since I'm terrible at recognizing compressed kanji, I turned on the furigana option. I got to the part where a former female schoolmate of Kindaichi sent him a letter asking for help. My question is, why was there a furigana used for 私 while there was none for 手紙?
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>>138662857
Maybe to show what type of 私 was used? It can be pronounced わたし、あたし、わし、わたくし etc, depending on the type of person
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>>138662857
watashi's official reading is watakushi, which is so formal it hurts. there are also some other common normal readings of it, like atashi. marking the reading is probably a way to disamviguate it for the context its in.
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>>138662739
The deck in this post >>138662142 under the description
>Kanji production deck with stroke order diagrams, RTK/frequency/etc. orders, example words, keywords, readings, etc.
Is production orientated so you have to write the kanji out correctly to pass the card.

How does that differ to this wanikani you seem to think you can advertise and get away with?

It is obvious what intentions here are, anon.
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>>138662739
Get a notebook and write? It's not that hard.
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>>138662901
>>138662906
Ah alright. To differentiate things. Thanks. I was just confused because I saw わたし as the reading for 私 written on the sent letter so I'm like, wait, he knew who sent it so what's with the reading?
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There's a fair amount of jap streamers on twitch if you didn't know
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>>138663397
Varför ville man titta på dom?
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>>138663397
Can't imagine Twitch is any less cancerous in Japanese

At least kappa would be somewhat more relevant
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>>138663432
Dumma hanrej
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>>138663505
A Swede is calling me a cuck.
まさか
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>>138663397
Is there a text version for those of us with third world standard Internet?
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>>138663733
Twitch chat works through IRC and there is an audio-only channel that you can listen to (with livestreamer or the mobile app).
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>>138661334
Not sure but,
仕事をするのは断れば
Seems better.
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>>138662739
WK is 5 bucks. If its exact methods hit home with you, there's nothing stopping you from using it. It's possible to learn vocab *entirely* from text-hooking without ever touching Anki. WK's speed wouldn't make a difference in this scenario.
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Man I see でも all the time but I still don't feel like I fully understand it
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>>138664421
>there's nothing stopping you from using it.
The fact it's objectively inferior to anki in every way should be a strong factor in not using it
http://pastebin.com/ujNXfMtB
> It's possible to learn vocab *entirely* from text-hooking without ever touching Anki.
Yeah it's possible to learn everything exposure, doesn't mean you want to do it or it's the best way
>WK's speed wouldn't make a difference in this scenario.
May as well not use WK if it's speed doesn't make a difference.
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>>138664535
>new IP
>post obvious directed at someone who specificallt said that he couldn't learn from Anki and liked WKs methods
Are you literally retarded, anon? Well?
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>>138664535
>Yeah it's possible to learn everything exposure, doesn't mean you want to do it or it's the best way
I've learned vocab entirely through text hooking for about a year now, and I can read most moege without Rikaisama at this point. The main thing to note here is that not a single moment has been a frustrating, dull grind. It is infinitely better than forcing yourself through 500+ reviews each day. Perhaps not as efficient, but then again, I've never been close to burnout or questioned why I'm learning Japanese.
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>On hellotalk
>Misspell 話しましょう as 話しましぉう because typing on a phone is aids
>Person I'm talking to doesn't even bring it up
>"I think your Japanese is good!"

Why are women so useless
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>>138664848
Most people don't read a single letter at a time, dude.
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>>138664848
They probably knew it was a typo.
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>>138664888
I suppose, I don't like the idea I could be talking complete shit and people are just too nice to correct me though, I guess it's still better than nothing though
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>>138664848
気をつかう。空気を読む。 It's a part of their culture. The opposite of that is ケイワイ (KY).

>>138664971
Same answer as the above.
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>>138664510
Are you aware that there's a usage that means "or something"?. Like in お茶でも飲まないか "Do you want to drink tea or something?"
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Has anyone ever made a deck with words from 歌付き?
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>>138665195
歌詞*
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>>138665195
You could be the first.
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>>138665195
Is there a deck for prefectures and other major place names?
Is there a deck for counters?
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>>138665275
Yes there is. What I was asking was: Is it worth it or are they always using the same words?
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>>138664566
People who say they can't learn from anki are delusional and haven't spent enough time with the program.
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>>138664535
>Wanikani throws all legitimacy to the window >and makes radical names up from scratch.
Just fyi, RTK is guilty of this as well. In my limited observation of KD, it does too. It's not just Wanikani that is a little creative with English name of radicals.
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>>138665252
待たせたぞい
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>リンピックの花形競技

Would this be refering to olympic events that star players compete in, or the events which are the best/most famous themselves like the 100m sprint/swimming/etc?
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>>138662944

Fuck man I really appreciate you taking the time and effort to instruct retards like me.

I'll definitely check that out. I really want to learn this language and since there's no Japanese language institute around my area I'll have to self-learn which I'm horrible at.
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>>138665603
If you have some doubts on what you should do, don't forget to consult the guide. It's filled with lots of good information.
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風の経つのは。。。早い。
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Could I get some help translating this? I think the picture Is from NGE.
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>>138665675
>風の経つ
??
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>>138665736
The speed of light
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So I'm currently learning kanjidamage and core2k deck at the same time.

Am I doing this right?
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>>138665642

I'm aware of the guide but I'm such a fucking failure that I keep giving up and coming back, each time with a different excuse as to why I can't learn the language.

I've read Tae Kim's grammar guide but I should read it again.
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>>138665741
>経つの
>経つこと
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>>138665753
Thank you
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>>138665815
That's not the problem. How does 風 relate to 経つ in the first place. Here's the definition :

[動タ五(四)]《「立つ」と同語源》

1 時が過ぎる。「日が―・つ」「いつまで―・っても帰ってこない」
2 ろうそくや油などが燃え尽きる。
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>>138664848
It's not that they're useless. It's because most people are not autists, anon.
They don't sperg out over typos or misspelled words. That only happens when talking to objectively superior nihilist fedorad gentlemen on internet forums.
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>>138665861
I don't know man, I didn't write it.
I assume they mean something like "the passing of the wind"
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>>138665891
Obviously I don't care about something like that it just makes me wonder about what not so obvious mistakes I may be making
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>>138665861
風立つ
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>>138666318
「立つ」と「経つ」は違うけど。
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What's the fuggin' logic behind this idiom meant to be?
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>>138666422
Without hiding anything, you dumb sack of shit. It's not "to tell the truth", it's "To tell you the truth,".
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How many new cards should I have per day in Anki?
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>>138666477
Depends on you, ファミコン.
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>>138666471
>Without hiding anything
Except then it should be 何も隠すまい or some shit, how the hell could 何を隠そう be interpreted as that, fucking elevents.
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Why is Holo talking in the dialect of ancient high class prostitutes

Why is my waifu talking like a whore
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>>138666566
What? It makes perfect sense even in english. Without wanting to hide anything.
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>>138666598
Anon... Are you sitting down?
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>>138666598
>he didn't realise she was a whore
I mean, the clue is in her fucking name. It's WHORO for god's sake.
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>>138666612
Not that anon but where is 'without' implied in 何を隠そう ?
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Anyone got that beginner's VN chart? Searching the archive only brings up the "not beginner VNs" chart.
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>>138666384
>Without wanting to hide anything
Except that's not what 何を隠そう alone would mean on its first reading without knowing the idiom, it'd be "What shall I/we hide" or something.
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>>138666612
How is it without, though?
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>>138666666
fuck japan
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>>138666664
I guess you meant >>138666612 ?
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>>138666664
meant for
>>138666612

Not sure how that happened.
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>>138666659
In return you can stop abusing spoilers.
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>>138666837
>recommends hanahira

every single recommendation on that image instantly became invalid
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>>138666921
What's wrong with Hanahira?
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>>138666659
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>>138666422
This explanation makes sense

http://www.fleapedia.com/%E4%BA%94%E5%8D%81%E9%9F%B3%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%87%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9/%E3%81%AA/%E4%BD%95%E3%82%92%E9%9A%A0%E3%81%9D%E3%81%86-%E3%81%A8%E3%81%AF-%E6%84%8F%E5%91%B3/
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>>138666969
Doesn’t exactly rate much more than a few paragraphs, really.


The VN does have a couple of funny lines or so, but otherwise it’s poorly written, poorly edited, incredibly cheap, and generally screams its being a cash-in from the rooftops. It’s a textbook example of hack writing.

And the VN is still better than the light novel, which is so badly written it’s borderline unreadable, particularly at the beginning.
Who thought it was a good idea to make it a series of disjointed lines like it were a transcribed VN? Or make the narrator a third-person person despite not being one in the VN? There’s also casual cheerful light-hearted mind rape via hypnosis. All ages!

The stories themselves are so fake, so manufactured, so forced, so devoid of anything remotely resembling a point or a soul that even their sugar tastes like plastic.

And it didn’t even have sex scenes! What a waste.


>t. the guy who translated it
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I can't find the WK deck in the guide nor in any of the pastebins I've opened.

Could someone tell me exactly where I could find it?
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>>138667133
https://mega.nz/#F!ZR80ST4I!T-UAh6nbx-snsiifhQM85Q
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>>138667098
You're the first I see having that opinion of the VN. I never read it so I can't compare but still, I think most people here play it because it's easy, not because it's the best or anything.
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>>138667191
Thanks. Where was I supposed to get that link?
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>>138667260
I dunno. I bookmarked it when it was posted.
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Beginner question, what kind of particle would be used for some thing like "actor IN this move" or "character IN that video game".
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>>138667282
I see. Not to be rude or anything but I feel like the DJT website could use some more organization.
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>>138667310
いん
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>>138667260
It is indeed in the guide. You just have to press the 教本 tab.
>>138667316
Considering you didn't even look entirely at the spreadsheet, I find it a bit funny you're saying this. If you have any suggestions though, don't hesitate to go to the feedback section of the guide.
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>>138667310
ゲームにの中のガラクタ
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>>138667371
I meant the CoR, not the guide. My bad.
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>>138663397
Why wouldn't you use niconico? You have streams 24/7
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>>138667433
NicoNico lowers quality during high load periods unless you buy a premium account. No thanks
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>>138667455
On streams? That happens only on normal videos.
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>>138667371
>Considering you didn't even look entirely at the spreadsheet, I find it a bit funny you're saying this.
>You just have to press that little tiny thing at the bottom that is barely visible
Well anyway now I know so thank you. No need to get upset, I was strictly speaking how I was feeling about it and surely I wasn't and I won't be the only one. It is itself a form of feedback.

I'll be sure to post suggestions if I have any though.
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Anybody here took j-cat? What were your scores and at which point of your study did you got that score?
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>>138665753
More like the speed of dark
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>>138667310
I think you could use の for that.

eg.

>この映画の俳優は上手です
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>>138667517
I'm not upset or angry, sorry if it seemed that way. But honestly, complaining about the CoR in the threads won't change anything, hence why I said: If you have a better idea, be sure to post it in the feedback section.
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>>138667499
It's reason enough to avoid the whole website for me.
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Is this RPG really called 'Setsuna's Sacrifice and Snow'? That would be a rather odd name:

http://www.jp.square-enix.com/setsuna/
>いけにえと雪のセツナ
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>>138667603
No worries I understand, will do if I have anything worthwhile to say.
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>>138667658
>Setsuna's Sacrifice and Snow
I hope this is bait.
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>>138667733
>いけにえ
Sacrifice

>と
between two nouns so 'and'

>雪
Snow

>の

>セツナ
Setsuna

What did I fuck up exactly
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>>138667733
Setsuna is the name of the main heroine, unless you think it's a word play with せつない which I don't think it is.
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>>138667658
いけにえ means (scape)goat. So it means setsuna's snow goat.
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>>138667797
Oh, my bad then.
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>>138667191
What am I supposed to do with the .DS_Store file?
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>>138667801
>いけにえ means (scape)goat
>only one of 5 pages I checked meantions that
So I'm plain retarded, I understand.This makes a lot more sense.
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>>138667658
>>138667801
Shouldn't it be "Setsuna of" and not "Setsuna's"?
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>>138667801
>setsuna's snow goat
But Setsuna is the nucleus of the phrase, it can't be Setsusna's.
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I want to setsuna Setsuna's setsunas
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>>138667658
Setsuna of Snow and Sacrifice
Maybe
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>>138667947
>Setsuna of the Snow Goat
That sounds wrong, but who knows it may be the right TL depending on the game.
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>>138668103
>Snow Goat
But いけにえと雪 doesn't mean snow goat
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Setsuna#cite_ref-6

> Ikenie to Yuki no Setsuna (Japanese: いけにえと雪のセツナ, lit. Setsuna of Sacrifice and Snow)
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>>138668142
Yes it does, the と is binding, look up advanced grammar.
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>>138668142
Isn't it literally 'Sacrifice/Scape goat and Snow'?
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>>138668152
I'm dead. The names are getting worse and worse.
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>>138668173
Yes, snow goat/sacrifice isn't the same as snow AND goat/sacrifice
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>Setsuna's sacrifice and snow
>Setsuna's snow goat

Come on guys, this is basic shit.


>>138668069
>>138668152
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>>138668228
I didn't think anyone would believe something so stupid either.
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>>138666837
Baldr Sky isn't that beginner friendly. Lots of unhookable text and plenty of dialog in gameplay that goes by really fast.
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>>138667881
Nothing, it's an OSX specific directory that contains metadata about the folder.
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>>138667797
>タイトルが意味深に思えますが、ズバリ、そこに込めた意味はなんでしょう?
>今回のゲームのコンセプトの1つに“切なさ”というものがあるんです。その“切なさ”からインスピレーションされた点が一番ですね。他にもいろいろと意味があるんですが、総合的な意味を込めて、“セツナ”という言葉を使っています。
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>>138668432
Well, it seems I was wrong, so it was related with 切ない
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>>138667801
You should read this, http://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=%E3%81%84%E3%81%91%E3%81%AB%E3%81%88&ref=sa

For those of you who are still confused, remember your favorite shounen jump's serial. There ought to be character with titles there, hiken no Ace, or sharingan no kakashi. In English it's fire fist Ace and sharingan Kakashi.

So yuki no setsuna is snow Setsuna. Since there is ikenie and yuki, japanese norm is to state the first one mentioned first so it becomes "Sacrifice and snow Setsuna".

Now because it's English, "Setsuna of sacrifice and snow" sounds better. The same way Kakashi's becomes "Kakashi of the Sharingan" and Fire Fist Ace's should be "Ace of the Fire Fist" as well, literally speaking.
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What's the best / most accurate voice generator for awesomeTTS?
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I'd like to do a kanji study for the purpose of learning to write, but also because I think it will help me stop confusing words with similar kanji.

What is the best way to set up anki cards to prompt for writing kanji?
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>>138668608
Pay a Japanese person to hang out with you all day and read things out loud for you.
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>>138668640
RTK is the best resource you can get for learning how to write. It's in the CoR under 教本.
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>>138668640
Buy a good kanji book. Learn the six classification of kanji, 形成文字 is a good term to know. Know about 音符 and 音符, and also being aware of the existence of 当て字 and other irregular readings.

Now study and utilize Anki like you usually do.
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>>138668726
>>138668824
I'm more so just curious about the best way to prompt for writing because it seems like putting the actual character there would kind of be cheating.

Like what should the front of the card be?
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>>138668852
Read the introduction of RTK.
You should be putting a keyword (you can also use a Japanese reading) on the front side and then write the kanji using the radicals you know.
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Two years of doing the core6k decks. I did nothing else. I still have alot of trouble reading anything as I'm too lazy to read anything about grammar so I just guess. Though I did read some basic stuff.

I got a third right on the n3 sample test. Damn I feel so slow.
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>>138667658
Is this a meme post? I'm sure I've seen this question before.
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>>138668852
Do you want to write because you want be able to write and work for Japanese company? Or do you want to practice writing so that you won't confused one kanji and another?
If you want to be able to tell the difference between 会議 義理 礼儀 犠牲 then, what I said earlier.

If you want to write, the other anon is mostly correct, RTK is the most famous book on djt for the purpose of learning how to write kanji and while it's certainly a very good book, "best" is debatable.

I don't use Anki for writing practice so I can't give you answer on that aspect other than what pops onto my head when I read your question. Like maybe put on the front card the hiragana, i.e. れいぎ ぎり かいぎ ぎせい.
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>>138669078
No shit you're going to feel slow if you just do two straight years of vocab, not to mention core vocab
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>>138669122
>RTK is the most famous book on djt for the purpose of learning how to write kanji and while it's certainly a very good book, "best" is debatable.
If you know any books that better than RTK for this exact purpose, I'd be glad to know. Besides, anon explicitly said he wanted to write. Knowing the kanji phonetic components is only going to help with reading, not actual writing.
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>>138669122
Name one situation where you would need to write. I'll give you taking notes even though you can do it in hiragana.
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>>138669271
... Not to mention that it took 16 months to get through 6,000 vocab (12.5 words a day) and then he spent 8-9 months doing no new words
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>>138669303

To impress girls in social situation :^)
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>>138669078
You can't learn Japanese.
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>>138669078
What was your cards/day ratio? Sorry to say dude, but this looks horrible. Two years for Core 6k damn, what a chore.
>>138669303
The anon he's replying too said he wanted to write.
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>>138669122
On KD production cards you have the 'meaning' of the kanji and the on and kun yomi.
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Why do so many of Tae Kim's example sentences have something to do with weight loss from not eating properly and stuff? Did he suffer from anorexia, or some shit?
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>>138669078
And this is why telling someone "Yo, just go do Anki" is a bad idea.

Sorry you fell for the meme, dude, and wasted 2 years at an extremely glacial pace on fucking newspaper words.

People seriously need to understand that anything past 2k is SOLELY for if you didn't really feel like reading that much and you need to stick to your 20-40 new words a day pace. You throw in some Core just to make up the numbers because you'll probably see those words at some point anyway.

You don't just sit back and go through core while not working on any of the other elements of Japanese. If you were having fun, you could have easily done 2-4 times more words daily without burning out.
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Are cards in Core2k in the same order as Core6k?
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>>138669542
It depends on the deck.
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>>138669344
>What was your cards/day ratio?
You can do that math yourself >>138669317
>>138669449
>And this is why telling someone "Yo, just go do Anki" is a bad idea.
He broke the two core tenants of anki - 1, he stopped adding new cards, and 2, he didn't mine his own new words. Nobody ever recommends to do anki and never read or never add new cards. It's always recommended with those two tenants implied or otherwise stated.
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>>138669609
You're fully aware that his new cards ratio might very well have fluctuated, right?
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>>138669449
>And this is why telling someone "Yo, just go do Anki" is a bad idea.
Literally no one has ever said that.
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>>138669437
Asians are really obsessed with their weight so you'll no doubt hear these kinds of conversations frequently in Japan.

I completely made that up but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true considering how uncommon fat Asians are.
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>>138669437
It's normal for Japanese and Korean people to talk about weight. At least for Japanese women, even the as-seen-on-TV カップサイズ is normal.
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Does anyone know where I can find the Core 2k deck? I honestly can't find a link to anything that isn't 6k or 10k.
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>>138669800
Why not simply go through the first 2k of the 2k/6k optimized in the CoR?
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>>138669767
Its true but for girls only
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>>138669842
Isn't the 2k/6k optimized in an order optimized to show you things based on kanji? Which would indicate that the first 2k of the 2k/6k isn't actually the same cards as 2k.
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>>138669903
You should never go through the original 2k. Even if you wanted to go through 2k, you'd need the optimized i+1 version of the 2k (AKA nukemarine's version). That's the best way to go about Core. Don't try the old 2k, it's shit for learning.
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>>138669903
It is the same. 2k (and 6k) is organized into steps of about 200 cards without much organization within the steps. The optimized version just puts the cards within the steps into an order based on kanji.
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Japanese is going to be very useful in terms of advantages over my friends, for about the third time.
First time, he couldn't understand a south partk joke in Japanese.
Second time, couldn't find a song name due to Japanese.
And finally, just now, I realized Dark Souls 3 comes out about 2 weeks earlier in Japanese. I can buy it via my PS4 Japanese PSN account. He will wait while I don't have to. Haha.
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>>138670039
Nice blog. Now fuck off.
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>>138661598
Did he even try to make the cover look pretty?
Although the minimalist look isn't too bad.
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>>138670039
>He will wait while I don't have to.
Nice. Fuck that faggot
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>>138670129
I don't really like the color though. He could've used the app design at least.
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Guess what, DJT. The romaji revolution begins today. You don't live in Japan, and you never will.
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>>138670100
>>138670126
Thanks guys.
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>>138661598
If you're going to spend that much on a physical grammar, why wouldn't you spend your money on something more worthwhile like Japanese the Manga Way?
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Since I don't have plans beyond understanding how to read and listen, the 97-Day Kanji Challenge by Nihongoshark appealed to me since it was basically RTK but Kanji -> Keyword.

I'm about 750ish cards in, but at this point I'm wondering if I should just switch to doing one of the KanjiDamage decks since it seems like it'll take me closer to my goal in the end.

Do you guys think it's worth starting over? I'd like to get through a Kanji recognition deck before the summer, since that's when I'll really be trying to learn.
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>>138670253
If you're going to spend that much on a physical grammar, why wouldn't you spend your money on something more worthwhile like Shin Kanzen Master?
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>>138670276
Depends on your new cards/day ratio.
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>>138670276
If you're already 750 cards in, then stay the course I'd say. Starting over with some new regimen is just going to be a huge waste of your time unless you're doing something retarded.
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>>138669078
no red
so legit
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>>138670276
>97-Day Kanji Challenge

What's different from KD there? No On/Kunyomi?
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>>138670353
Good eye. Here's a legit chart.
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>>138670324
I'm at 20 cards/day right now. 25/day is the max I'd go since I don't want to burn myself out.

>>138670393
It's RTK, so yeah, no readings at all.
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God damn why is it so much effort getting started as a translator
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>>138669276
That anon also said
> it will help me stop confusing words with similar kanji.

>Knowing the kanji phonetic components is only going to help with reading, not actual writing.
I don't just say 音符 mate. I said 音符, 意符, and 形成文字。 Say 会ぎ。 I know it's a 義, but which 義?
Based on 意符, I can guesswork that it's "probably" the 言義 so 会議.
礼儀, same thing. It's a 人儀 so 礼儀. It doesn't always work every time as we all know, but it helps.

>If you know any books that better than RTK >for this exact purpose, I'd be glad to know.
Yeah totally. I prefer Hadamitzky's book to RTK. I compared both in the beginning and I like how Hadamitzky's book is structured compared to RTK.

Secondly, without going into much details, I much prefer Hadamitzky's radical explanations compared to Heisig's "primitive" explanations.

Somewhere before the first 100 kanji, Heisig taught a "primitive" called "mist" and "by one's side". That is Heisig's own entry for his book, not of the 214 kangxi radicals.
I also like the fact that Hadamitzky's book let me know that 心 is called りっしんべん since it helps me figured out that 忄is going to be on the 編 side of the kanji.

It's just preference. I know somebody who swore by RTK, another that used Hadamitzkys, and somebody else whose favorite kanji book is Kanji in Context, which is no longer in publication.

Reordering kanji to make it easier to memorize is done by other kanji books too these days, RTK is not the only one that does that. I don't disagree that RTK is excellent, "best" is just debatable to me.
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>>138670485
It's really hard to say... If you just started out I'd say to KD, but as you are already so far in... Although you might just do KD with more new cards (40 a day or something) as you should already know many.
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>>138669303
Honestly, on djt I have a slight opinion that it's not that necessary to know how to write, especially if the main goal is to play VN. I think writing is only ever useful for those whose goal is beyond just japanese comprehension. Like maybe working in Japan or for japanese company or something.
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>>138670509
> 心 is called りっしんべん
心 isn't called that, 忄is called that.

Perhaps you didn't know that you can actually type radicals in your IME
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