Says a true scientist would create the new world with his own hands. Has a Bankai that deconstructs and reconstructs things.
Is he going to be the final enemy?
>Implying Aizen won't be the final enemy
>>138622750
I think he has scientist confused with engineer.
Scientists are motivated by curiosity.
Getting to decide what's on the canvas defeats the whole point.
>>138622750
> japanese don't even know the difference between scientists and engineers
>>138622990
>Frankenstein created new life
>Frankenstein was a doctor
>Not a filthy overhyped Engineer
Know where things begin and where they end.
>>138622750
If Urahara would be the enemy of the second half of the final arc, who would be on his side and who would be on Ichigo's?
On Urahara's side you have:
Urahara
Yoruichi
Yuushiro
Tessai
Jinta
Ururu
Isshin
Ryuken
Grimmjow
Possibly Squad Zero since they and Urahara met once and showed him the Soul King
The Vizards except maybe Shinji
Askin if Urahara spares him and without Yhwach Urahara is his best shot
Who else?
On Ichigo's would be:
His friends
Rukia
Renji
Kenpachi
The Arrancar minus Grimmjow and maybe Harribel
The Fullbringer
The surviving Sternritter
I could see the Gotei siding with both. If Urahara becomes final enemy we would for sure get enough fights for everyone.
>>138624713
Aizen would likely side with Ichigo but probably only from the sides on his chair.
>>138624713
Oh god, I can imagine Yhwach saying "You're not aware of Kisuke's plans at all...are you, my bastardly son?"
>>138622750
I'm confused about why he considered his bankai bad for training. I guess he just doesn't like using it.
>>138625649
It would be funny, if Urahara somehow managed to seal most of Yhwach's power and thus evilness and Yhwach had to become an ally of Ichigo in his Tensa Form
>>138625842
Urahara had more important things to do than training Chad. Also someone like Chad won't probably gain any siginificant results any time soon, if he were up against Urahara's Bankai. He isn't Kenpachi.
>>138622750
It seems Kubo is making it seem that way but it could just be a red herring
Netabare fake spoilers have Grimmjow going Segunda with help from Urahara's remodeling after Askin gets back up again.
>>138625842
I guess not even Aizen knew about his bankai, using the thing to train Chad could tip Aizen off in a number of ways, for all we know it was with his bankai that Urahara made the seal that could shut down the hougyoko.
>>138625842
Because the entire point of that training was to bring out Chad's latent potential; putting Chad against KBA would be like a mouse in a blender.
>>138622990
>>138623491
An engineer is a student of the sciences.
That said, Urahara is basically a scientist in the sense of the idealized renaissance man. Inventor, builder, thinker, theorist, etc. Like Frankenstein, in a way.
>>138627104
>Chapter 666 Deal With The Devil
>Urahara is the devil
>>138628992
Urahara is a necessary evil. Only thing that sets him apart from Aizen is the fact that he seeks to protect the current world order and has resigned to the idea of the SK being what it is, Aizen has not.
>>138622750
I think the catch is that Urahara doesn't consider himself a scientist. Look at the history of his inventions and now his powers work. He's been making nothing but shortcuts around conventional methods his whole life. He's not a scientist, he's a con-artist.
>>138629392
That's mangastream's fault. In the original he said "scientists like us". Mangastream also added the part with him calling Askin demented. He never called Askin that in the original. Urahara's problem wasn't morality.
>>138629065
I think when Urahara talked about the way the world is, there was resentment. That he wants to change it, but couldn't. But I think he has founded a Ichigo-sized solution for his problem. And something that is not good for Ichigo. Urahara's Bankai allows him to de- and reconstruct everything. A Bankai is a representation of one's soul. So what does that tell about Urahara?
>>138629694
where are the raws? It'd be easy enough to verify
>>138629791
Not exactly the raws, but maybe close enough
Sidetext：アスキン・ナックルヴァールの毒入りギフトにご用心！！
Beware of Askin Nakk Le Vaar’s poisonous gifts!!
Askin：１秒に４８回変化する霊圧
A reiatsu that changes 48 times per second
Askin：それは言い換えれば
To put it a different way
Askin：１秒で４８パターン全て喰らえるって事だ
In one second, you get hit with all 48 patterns
Askin：つまり
Put yet another way
Askin：完聖体になって１秒間だけ攻撃を受け切れば
If I engage my Vollständig and take one full second of her attacks
Askin：全４８種感染完了
I get a complete infection of all 48 varieties
Page 02
Urahara：・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・
………………………………………………
Askin：あとの解析と免疫獲得に必要なのは時間だけだ
After that, all I need is time to analyze them and acquire immunity
Askin：オット
Uh-uh
Askin：そっから更にそいつの霊圧を変化させる方法もあるのかも知れねェが
You may have something there that alters reiatsu even further
Askin：無駄だぜ
But it’s useless
Askin：アンタが無駄手間取らなくて済むように
Out of the goodness of my heart, I’m gonna save you some wasted effort
Askin：親切心から
By explaining
Askin：俺の完聖体の性能を教えとく
My Vollständig’s abilities
Page 03
Askin：俺の完聖体
My Vollständig
Askin：「神の毒見」は
Hasshein*
*TN: Kanji mean “God’s Poison Taster”
Askin：毒の変質に適応する
Adapts to alterations in poisons
Askin：毒の表層がどれだけ変化しようが
No matter how much the surface layer changes
Askin：ベースが同じなら免疫の方を変化させて瞬時に無効化できるんだ
As long as the base remains the same, I can alter my immunity and instantly render the poison ineffective
Askin：回りくどい言い方か？
I guess that’s a convoluted way to put it?
Askin：でも解ってんだろ
But you get it, right?
Askin：こっから先アンタもそいつもどれだけ霊圧を変化させようが
From now on, no matter how much you change your reiatsu or hers
Askin：俺にキズ一つ負わせる事もできねェってハナシさ
You won’t even be able to scratch me
Page 04
Askin：さァ
So
Askin：どうするよ 浦原喜助
What’re you gonna do now, Urahara Kisuke?
Askin：まさか
Don’t tell me
Askin：あんたの打つ手を１から１０まで潰したくらいで
That just because I’ve taken away options one through ten
Page 05
Askin：万策尽きた訳あ無ェだろう？
You’re all outta ideas?
Insert text：猛毒濃度急上昇中―――――！！
The deadly poison suddenly gets way more concentrated-------!!
Page 06
Urahara：！！
!!
Askin：そんなビックリすんなよ
No need to be startled
Askin：“念のため”さ
It’s “just in case”
Page 06
Urahara：！！
!!
Askin：そんなビックリすんなよ
No need to be startled
Askin：“念のため”さ
It’s “just in case”
Page 07
Askin：“領域”を区切った
I’ve marked off a “Bereich”*
*TN: German and Kanji both mean “territory”
Askin：俺はキツい言葉を遣うのが好きじゃなくてね
I don’t like to use big tough-sounding words
Askin：キツい言葉を遣う奴ってのは余裕が無く見えるだろ？
People who use big tough-sounding words don’t seem like they’re in control, right?
Askin：余裕のある男でいたいもんでね
I wanna be an “in control” kinda guy
Askin：その俺が言うぜ
Even so, I’m gonna say this
Askin：この“猛毒領域”からは
It is absolutely impossible
Askin：絶対脱出不可能だ
For you to escape from this “Gift Bereich”*
*TN: German for “Poison Territory”, kanji mean “deadly poison territory”
>>138629791
Actually, looking at these raws Kubo wrote the chapter number out as 六六五, that's really weird. There's no furigana to denote it being read differently. That's "Roku Roku Go" as in "Six Six Five" and not 六百六十五/"roppyaku roku-juu go" as in "six hundred sixty five".
Page 08
Urahara：・・・・・・そんあにアタシ達を逃がしたくないっスか
……You want to prevent us from escaping that badly, huh?
Askin：当たり前だろ
Well duh
Askin：何の確認だよ
We’re enemies
Askin：俺達敵同士だぜ
Do you even need to ask?
Urahara：いえね
It’s not that
Urahara：こう言っちゃ何ですがアナタは
Forgive me for saying this
Urahara：忠誠心で動いてる様には見えなかったもんで・・・
But you just don’t appear to be acting out of a sense of loyalty…
Askin：失礼なこと言うね
That’s pretty rude
Askin：忠誠心ならポメラニアンの倍ほどもあるつもりだぜ
I’d like to think I’m at least twice as loyal as a Pomeranian
Askin：だが見立ては間違ってねェ
But you’re not wrong
Askin：確かにそれが全てじゃ無ェ
That’s definitely not all there is to it
Askin：俺は
I
Askin：陛下に興味があるのさ
Am very interested in His Majesty
Page 09
Askin：興味があるなんて言うと上からに聞こえるか？
Does that make it sound like I’m putting myself above him?
Askin：モチロンそんなつもりじゃ無ェ
Because of course I would never do that
Askin：現世
The Material World
Askin：虚圏
Hueco Mundo
Askin：尸魂界
Soul Society
Askin：世界を３つも潰してその後に何かを創ろうとしてる
Is there anyone other than His Majesty
Askin：そんな人が
Who is trying to destroy those three worlds
Askin：陛下の他に居るか？
And create something else?
Askin：例えばここで陛下を逃して
For instance, if we lost our chance with His Majesty here
Askin：その次に誰かそんな奴が出てきてくれると思うか？
Do you think someone else like him would just come along later?
Askin：浦原喜助
Urahara Kisuke
Askin：あんたは物知りだ
You’re a smart man
Askin：この世の全てを見てきたってカオしてる
You have the face of someone who’s seen all the world has to offer
Askin：そのあんたが
Don’t you think
Askin：思わねえのか？
You’d wanna see that?
Page 10
Askin：３つの世界を潰した後に
Don’t you think you’d wanna see
Askin：陛下が何を創るのか
What His Majesty will create
Askin：それを見たいと思わねぇのか？
After he destroys these three worlds?
Page 11
Askin：まだそんなスピードで動けんのかよ
You can still move with that kinda quickness?
Askin：この猛毒領域の中で大したもんだ
That’s pretty impressive for being inside this Gift Bereich
Urahara：・・・・・・思わないっスね
……I don’t think I’d want to
Page 12
Askin：さっきの返事かよ
That your answer to my question?
Askin：そりゃ残念だな
Too bad
Askin：アンタはてっきりコッチ側だと思ってたんだが
And here I thought you’d be with me on that one
Urahara：涅隊長ならあるいは
Had it been Captain Kurotsuchi
Urahara：新しい何かを見たいと言ったかも知れません
He may have said he’d like to see something new
Askin：涅マユリか
Kurotsuchi Mayuri, huh?
Urahara：だけどそれでも
But even so
Urahara：ユーハバッハの創ったものを見たい訳じゃないんス
He wouldn’t mean something of Yhwach’s creation
Urahara：誰も見たことのないものを創るなら自分の手で
If we’re talking about creating something no one has ever seen, then that has to be done with your own hands
Urahara：それが科学者ってもんス
That’s what it means to be a scientist
Page 13
Askin：・・・成程ね
…I see
Askin：嫌いじゃねェぜその答え
Can’t say I don’t like your answer
Askin：それでも俺は
But still
Askin：陛下の方を見たいけどな！
I’d prefer to see what His Majesty will do!
Askin：“猛毒の指輪”
“Gift Ring”*
*TN: Kanji mean “Ring of Deadly Poison”
>>138629791
>>138630311
>>138629791
8
Urahara: ......You really don’t want us getting away, huh?
NakkLeVaar: Of course I don’t. / Shouldn’t that be obvious? // We’re enemies.
Urahara: Ah, well... / It’s just that, to be quite frank... // You don’t strike me as the sort of man who acts out of loyalty.
NakkLeVaar: What a rude thing to say. / I have at least twice as much loyalty as a Pomeranian. // But you’re not completely wrong either. / It’s true that loyalty isn’t everything to me. // I just... // ...have a personal interest in His Majesty.
9
NakkLeVaar: Does that make it sound like I’m looking down on him? // That’s not my intention, of course. // The human world. / Hueco Mundo. / Soul Society. // The guy’s trying to destroy three whole worlds and create something new in their wake. // Is there any other man... / ...who can claim that? // If I were to let His Majesty get away... // Do you think I’d ever find another man like that again? // Urahara Kisuke. / You’re a knowledgeable guy. // You look like you’ve seen everything this world has to offer. // So I ask you... / Don’t you feel it too?
10
NakkLeVaar: Aren’t you curious to see... / ...what His Majesty is going to create... // ...once he’s destroyed three entire worlds?
11
NakkLeVaar: You’ve still got that level of speed in you? // Even inside my Giftbereich? That’s impressive.
Urahara: ......I’m afraid I’m not.
12
NakkLeVaar: Oh, is that your answer to my question just now? / Well, that’s a shame. // I had a feeling you were like me, but I guess not.
Urahara: Perhaps if you’d asked Captain Kurotsuchi... // He may have shared your desire to witness something completely new.
NakkLeVaar: Kurotsuchi Mayuri, eh?
Urahara: But even then... / He wouldn’t be interested in something of Juchabach’s creation. // If we want to witness something nobody has ever seen before, we’ll create it ourselves. // That’s how us scientists are.
>>138625076
Maybe we could get Urahara Bankai vs Aizen Bankai.
>>138630311
>>138630356
ASKIN:
まだそんなスピードで
動けんのかよ
この
猛毒領域の中で
大したもんだ
URAHARA:
......思わ
ないつスね
ASKIN:
さつきの
返事かよ
そりや
残念だな
アンタはてっもり
コッチ側だと
思っでたんだが
URAHARA:
浬隊長なろ
あるいは
新しい何かを
見たいと言ったかも
知れません
ASKIN:
涅マユリか
URAHARA:
だけど
それでも
ユーハバッハの
創ったものを
見たい訳じゃ
ないんス
誰も見たことの
ないものを
創るなら
自分の手で
>>138630357
>>138630226
>>138630191
>>138630132
>>138630064
all of the vernacular in this has been noticably localized rather than directly translated. Half the English phraseology and verbal quirks used here don't even exist in Japanese. It's no better than reading off mangapanda or mangastream pages.
He probably just "reconstructs" the soul king.
>>138625842
Urahara's bankai isn't something you can fight and train against. It would tear you to pieces and reassemble you, so how would that make you stronger or learn to control your power better?
>>138631978
He probably wants a world without him.
