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Don't you love one sided romance triangles? Where you know the best girl will win.
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I'd rather just have the grumpy wish-fulfillment MC fuck up the flow of the usual high scool drama using nonsensical amounts of subterfuge and cunning again

If I wanted a story about awkward teenagers getting over themselves with some romance shit mixed in I'd watched one of the hundreds and hundreds of existing series that already do this
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Yeah but Yui is the one who will win however.
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>>138574205
He stills does that to an extent but he changed his outlook now that he has people he cares about and people who care about him.

The romance in this story is completely overstated and has had very little to do with it. Even in vol 11/the last two episodes of S2 barely had any.
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YUKINO A SHIT
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>>138574619
what is the context ?
is she cheering for the cunt whilst secretly cheer for the 8man?
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>>138574668
Iroha is in love with Hayama. Why would she cheer for 8man? Iroha has no feelings for 8man.
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It is always the heroine in the first volume cover that always wins
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>>138574748
Some anon said that spoilers from 2ch are out and that Yukino lost by not pursuing 8man and that Yui won. He also said that Yukino went abroad and 8man never sees her again.
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>>138573797
Sounds like retarded security nets for desperate shippers.
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>>138574808
convince me moar
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>>138574849
Basically Yukino concludes that her feelings were misplaced and a result from her just relying on 8man. She respects him and cares about him but it isn't love.
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I'm glad the game is not dead. At least they announced the release year.
http://5pb.jp/games/oregairu/
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>>138574808
everything aside from Yui winning sounds believable enough, that would actually be really surprising
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>>138574703
You seriously haven't noticed how her reaction to 8man in general changes over time? It's not exactly subtle

It's also irrelevant because Hayama will win the 8bowl in the end.
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>>138575006
It sounds reasonable to me. He obviously cares about Yui and is pretty dead set on fulfilling the promised date.
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>>138574808
yeah right volume 12 is still non existent
how can they conclude that
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>>138574963
what routes are there in this one?
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I usually tend to favor the girl I feel most pity for in love triangles.
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>>138575052
Leaks. Vol 12 will be out in late April.

>>138575044
She started respecting 8man more and seems to want to be his friend. That is why she is extra friendly when Yui and Yukino aren't around.
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>>138574808
hey 2ch anon, u still there ?
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>>138574808
That just sounds like White Album 2 again.
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>>138575168
Except neither Yukino and 8man are actually in love with eachother. Also Haruki and Kazusa meet later in life.
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>>138574748
What if the heroine is on the cover of all of the first 13 volumes but is suddenly replaced by a new character that's only relevant for one arc on the 14th volume?
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>this guy has a hard time getting pussy
Suspension of disbelief ruined.
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>>138575358
when the cutest girl you know is your sister it's hard to be pleased I guess
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>>138575358
>who are Saki, Yui, Yukino, Hiratsuka, and Iroha?

Also, sex isn't 8man's goal. He only ever tried to impress a girl once and then got ptsd over it resulting in him never trying it again.
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>>138575358
>>138575358
not every gurl is a whore like Iroha who please any man for money
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>>138575298
strike the blood is shit anyway, no one give a fuck
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>>138575358
If his goal was pussy he'd be drowning in it.
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>>138574748
I hope that's true.
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>>138575358
>S1
8man is a creepy looking jerk and Yui's Yuis are massive and full

>S2
8man is a borderline male model and Yui's Yuis are big but not extremely so

What the hell happened?
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>>138574808
I kind of hope for Yui end because everyone comes out okay.
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>>138575508
>8man is a borderline male model
His eyes are still beady and shady as fuck, and that was always canon the only thing wrong with him physically
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>>138575210
8man and Yukino wouldn't even know what love is.

I think "Help me someday." indicates she has grown very fond of him.
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>>138575488
>>138575443
I am just saying guys who look that good only don't get laid if they are complete social morons.
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>>138575044
They're just going for a cute senpai/kouhai relationship, she can act like herself around him and she appreciates that. Hachiman needs someone to lighten up around when he's not in the mood for Yuki's & Yui's nonsense.

>>138575592
He is a complete social moron.
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>>138575536
But what if a girl likes his eyes or is willing to overlook them? We know Yukino doesn't like them.
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>>138575499
I have no idea where that series is going. It is better if Eita just commits suicide at this point
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>>138574808
Holy shit is this real?
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I want a 100 votes.

http://strawpoll.me/6853975

Yui is best btw
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>>138575499
didn't the final vol get released last December?
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>>138575694
>But what if a girl likes his eyes or is willing to overlook them?
Then they'd be put off by his shitty personality
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>>138576103
Yui didn't. In fact she grew to love it.
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>>138575694
Yukino must love 8man's eyes. She loves pan-san for the same eyes.
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>>138574808
Shit ending
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>>138576333
Yukino doesn't love 8man's eyes. She always comments on them and insults them. 8man bears no resemblance to a panda and has no connection to Pan-san.
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So are the spoilers from 2ch real or not?
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>>138576435
Hi Yuipollfag, do you have nothing better to do with your life?
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>>138576464
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
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Can someone explain to me how Yukino's cookies seem to defy the laws of physics?
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JUST NOTICE HER BRO
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>>138574619
>not YUKINO SHIT A
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>>138576514
Preach it
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>>138574808
/Killself
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>>138576506
Notice what? There is nothing for him to notice about her anymore now that he has finally looked the elephant in the room right in the eye.
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>>138574808
That ending sounds funny as fuck
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>>138576472
All of what I said is true though. No one but Yukinofags on /a/ have made that connection.

>>138576589
It is funny, it will be even more hilarious when Yukinofags (>>138576554) kill themselves.

>>138576464
Yes, it is absolutely true.
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>be Haruno
>act all smarty and all but university you attend is Chiba-dai
>have no friends
>visit little sister and poke around her relations because there's nothing else to do

>be Yukino
>be autistic
>can't communicate with others without verbal abuse
>can't show true feelings and freak out if your friends don't catch your signals
>can't argue with your mother or big sister and has to use what your friend says word by word
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>>138574307
she will win at:
>epic failz
>lulz
>destroyed hopes and dreams
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>they think this won't be a WA2 ending
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>>138576927
It won't.

The black haired girl in Oregairu doesn't love the MC.
There is no music theme.
There are no love triangle elements.
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What if neither win as Yui/Yukino get corrupted by some unsavory-type playboys?
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>>138576097
Where did you get that idea? Series is ongoing.
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>>138576666
I'm pretty sure Haruna is just under the thumb of her controlling mother and wants to save Yukino from the same fate.

>>138574703
>Why would she cheer for 8man?
That's straight up what she did in that scene, for one thing. Regardless of the presence of "feelings" or not.
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>>138576666
checked
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Could 8man get away with ignoring both Yukino's and Yui's feelings for him? I mean if he can keep both content he can keep the club intact and he doesn't have to lose one of them while he gets the opportunity to get closer to both.
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>>138577343
He could just reject them but state that he still wants to be friends enjoy the rest of their highschool days together in a carefree manner. Hell that'd be more impressive than him buckling under the pressure that the two girls are putting him under.

There'd be no more drama if that happened though.
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>>138577343
Isn't that just doing what Hayato does?
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>>138574703
A year later, denialfag is still going. Wow.
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>>138575298
Yukina is on the 14th cover, don't worry.
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>>138575468
shut your whore mouth
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>>138577477
No. 8man actively wants to be closer. Hayama keeps them at bay.

>>138577434
That would be a great solution providing they will be satisfied just being his friend. He won't get the benefit of their affection for him though.
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>>138575443
>left aligned
>not using justified

nigga what the fuck are you doing?
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>>138576927
WA2 already happened in the past.

Yukino left Hayama to Yumiko when she went aboard. lel.
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>>138577638
>8man actively wants to be closer.
Ignoring feelings will always keep a gulf between them. Conniving to get a comfortable solution is pointless. He desires what's real.
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>>138577953
>Ignoring feelings will always keep a gulf between them.
Not if they don't know he is ignoring their feelings. How would that cause a gulf? He has a pass from both to approach.

>Conniving to get a comfortable solution is pointless.
It makes his life better. Them having feelings for him is the last thing he needs.

He can still have his genuine, he can understand them.
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>>138578438
“It was just a one-sided interest, or, well, a misunderstanding, so it’s not genuine.”
Just because she talked to me and paid me some attention, I ended up getting curious myself and then I convinced myself that she was into me. And the result? It was nothing more than a misunderstanding. In the end, the simple truth of someone liking me was what I was really fond of. Something that selfish had no resemblance with the feelings of love.


Hachiman wants to be loved for who he is. You can try and deny it until you turn blue.
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>>138578541
>Hachiman wants to be loved for who he is.
Yui and Yukino do love him for who he is,bhe succeeded on that front. That doesn't mean he has to answer either of their feelings.
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>>138576502
it was love, baby.
I ain't gonna explain shit
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I simply can't see Hachi and Yukino as a couple. Solid friends sure but not lovey dovey, no I think Yui will be the one to win. I think she can change Hachiman for the better.
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>>138579294
It's the exact opposite for me. I can not even picture Hachiman and Yui together in any sense, way or fashion. Those two are so incompatible it isn't even funny.
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>>138576927
>First row: All Japanese highschoolers' bedrooms have a bed and a low table. If three people sit at the table, that's the most interesting establishing shot.
>Second row: Not that similar, they both just happen to be three-shots.
>Third row: Similar context, different action
>Fourth row: That's what crying looks like.
>Fifth row: Not similar at all
>Sixth row: That's what [almost] kissing looks like.
>Seventh row: More or less the best way to frame that shot, with the mass of the door taking up half of the frame. Their expressions are different.
It's an anime rom-com with a ruddy-haired girl. It's well-established that anime girls have to have different hair colors, and the only vaguely realistic options fall on the spectrum from chestnut to black.
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>>138579294
>>138579432
no hard feeling but the base of argument seem weird
couple may not lovey dovey as explicitly showing like a fucking lightbulb but being caring and understand each other with love hidden in every minute mundane acts

incompatible in the other way is complementary, they will live with each other's advantages.
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>>138579432
>>138579294
they don't have to be perfect for each other, chances are that they won't see each other again after graduation anyway
they're just high school students
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>>138576927
I wonder if the idea that another girl loves Hikki drives Yui up the wall.

I wonder, when 8man rejects Yui how much will she cry and how long she will cry.
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/a/, explain to me why a YukinoxHachixYui threesome end can't happen.
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>>138580494
all shippers will be offended
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>when she doesn't win the genuine
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>>138580494
a scared boy can never handle two girls.

just ask Shinji about it.
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>when she wins the genuine
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>>138580494

An antisocial guy who is passive in his way of life initiates a threesome. Ya sure.
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>>138580788
>>138580862
maybe the gurls strike the deal and agree to share him on daily basis
like odd days is for Yukinon and even are for Yui
Sunday is 3P day
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>>138580788
8man has manned up though, at the end of vol 11 he made it clear he will get his even if he ends up alone. He isn't a complete shitbag.

>>138580862
8man doesn't have to initiate it, the only thing that needs to happen is Yui and Yukino to come to terms with it and promise not to be jealous girls.
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>>138580909
>No Imouto days
How will he build up his Komachi points?
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>>138581002
Mon-Yukinon
Tues-Yui
Wed-Saki
Thurs-Saika
Fri-Imouto
Sat-Sensei
Sun-FFA

i just realize how many he could fuck around
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>>138581077
Saika and Sensei don't want the 8inch. Saki just has a light crush at best and Yukino only wants her Pan-san.
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>>138574808
Can't wait. It'll be TWGOK all again.
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>>138581002
>>138581077
Komachi is for night time cuddling
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>>138581077
Nah, man, I don't want another school days.
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Fine, on her day, she can do whatever she want
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>>138581181
How will it be at all like TWGOK? This time best girls wins.
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>>138581327
Idk, I think the number of Yukinofags are higher than Yuifags (didn't we made a pool last year?).
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>>138581436
ppl change and abandon ship as circumstances
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>>138573797
Yukinon knows better to not touch what isn't hers.
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>>138581077

>Thurs-Saika

Wait a minute, Saika is a guy. Wtf? Since when was H man gay?
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>>138576644
Yuifag trying hard as fuck
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>>138581621
they will not conduct any direct sexual intercourse or activity invovling sexual organ but they will:
kiss
caress
cuddling
bathing
sup each other
sleep together
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>>138581706
>sup each other
I hope he sups him so fucking hard
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>>138581661
But he is right. The spoilers drifting around confirm what most people have been speculating.
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>>138581706

How isn't that gay and why would Saika even approve of this? He respects Hachi and nothing else.
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>>138581812
Can a man not dream anon?
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>>138581875
Yukinofags' dreams tend to be off the wall horseshit. They would help the board if they didn't come up with such delusions.
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>>138581847
he moans and moans and moans all the time whenever 8man is around
he blinking his girls eyes every time talking with 8man
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Is Yui a turtle?
Does Yui even know that turtles are retarded?
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I had a dream last night that Oregairu got a pie end.
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>>138581921
I think without Yukino love the board would be a sad place
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>>138581998
That's the good ending
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>>138582023
I don't. She snoops around claimed men, she throws bitch fits over the littlest of shit (Ebina confession), tried to give 8man period blood chocolate, and insults 8man's eyes.
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>>138581998
I'm still mad
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>>138582102
>period blood chocolate

the enyzmes improve the crystallization efficiency resulting more ordered structure
the plasma protein impacts additional flavours while improve the texture
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>>138582182
>>138582102
You cant even argue with science
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>>138582182
Still yucky, as expected from Yukyno. What would Hikigaya-kun do if he knew that Yukino's friendship chocolate had that in it?

>>138582214
What did Yukino expect 8man to understand? She thought he would understand she wanted to be STUCO president for herself?
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>>138582214
period blood chocolate is precious as the process is lengthy and troublesome.
First, all of the discharged must be collected for that menstrual cycle while providing maintenance like cyrogenic and anti-coagulant so that its biological component remain active
each batch or more precisely a single bar contain an active ovum, limited as the girl reproduction capability, it is unique gift, truly the perfect gift of confession with procreation intention
the storage is recommend in -20 degree celcius
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>>138582319
She is vague as fuck. But all part of the charm
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>>138582404
This guy gets it
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>>138582404
Who would go so far out of their way for friendship chocolates?
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>>138582507
Really really good friends
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some technical details
as menstruating is actually the renewal, the discharge need to be filter and centrifuge to separate the solid with liquid component
the pellets are treated with proteinase to break down large component into finer molecules and then mixed back to the condensed supernatant to reduce the overall volume
in fact, it is filled chocolate with many separated bars, each enriched with different period blood component like the pellet and the plasma protein but the crown jewel which made as a shape of ovum contained the ovum
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>>138582404
Yeah, that's nice and all, but that's still fucking disgusting.
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Thread hijacked for menstrual blood baking tips. I love /a/
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I hate how Yukino pretends she is in love with 8man and cares about him. She should just support Yui instead.
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i was wondering, why cant harem writer just create a book dedicated to have endings of all girls?

Like last book consists of 4 book, 1 dedicated for yukino after story, 1 for yui, 1 for iroha and 1 for misc [saki , hell even throw in saika end]

>????
>profit
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>>138583210
Didn't they do that for ben to or whatever it was called
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>>138583210
There'd be no sense of tension/drama or whatever I guess
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>>138583210
Agreed, more than one good ending is good. Yuifags and Yukinofags could get along then. But until then there's blood on the board
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>>138583277
make canon end first, then announce the spinoffs a week after it's released , say it's "alternate universe" or something
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>>138574748
I thought that was 8man cross dressing at first
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>>138583277
This. It feels like either Yui or Yukino will get their heart ripped out of their chest. If there is going to be an end for everyone it feels cheap.
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>>138583484
>inb4 sagami end
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>Yukino end
Right as expected

>Yui end
Wrong as expected

What is the title of this series again?
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>>138583948
>Saika end

the most wrong
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>>138583948
>>138584202
>Wrong as expected
Well Hachiman has been despairing over having to take Hiratsuka if no one else will all series
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>>138575117
Then we'll see the announcement on gagagabunko site next weekend if it's going to be April release
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>>138580826
Her face turns into a turtle's?
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>>138579294
can't any1 see 8man still has no feeling to any YY or other girls?

2ch is half right. 2YY will be his best friends after he and yui push Yukino until she can solve her problem. and they will be best friends = genuine relationship (it doesn't need to be lover.).
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>>138581998
I'm pretty sure Yukino will get a cream pie ending like the Yukino/iroha- like girl got from the Hachiman-like guy in Watari's other novel
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>>138585047
and Saika will be 8man life partner
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>>138574808
There's no such thing, try again faggot by starting with killing yourself.

2chan anons in the last thread are just discussing the latest Watari's tweet and trying to figure it out if there is a meaning behind it. I love how most of the idiots here believed you.

Yuifags = Anal Cancer
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>>138585264
2chan or 2ch?
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>>138585264
What is Watari's latest tweet? That he is trying really hard and doing his best? All the other stuff is about that new idol light novel.
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>>138585047
The two he called "those most precious to me?" in the last volume? Denialfag.
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>>138583313
I'd definitely want a one-off manga volume that shows off 8man's married life with each of the girls in the series
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>>138585264
Hey man, there is no reason to be hostile. It could be the truth.

>>138585047
I don't think Yui sees him as a friend. It kinda kills Yukino's character development if she is pushed by Yui and 8man even more.
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>>138585264
The latest tweet says:
So, it's back to work! I'll do my best on Girlish Number! And, My Romcom, I'll do my best. Qualidea now but My Romcom soon! Something to talk about, really awesome, and I'll do my best!
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>>138585988
So nothing actually happened? Why would someone make up fake spoilers?

Is it me or does it seem like he isn't done with Oregairu?
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>>138586192
Well, I just hope he's not talking about vol 12 to be done later after his ongoing new anime projects, but of new oregairu material beyond that. OVA would be awesome but that's just my hope talking
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Just here to post a slut.
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>>138575694
More likely she thinks they're hot and is trying to convinces herself loudly that they aren't, standard tsundere stuff.
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>>138586384
It is kind of sad how her role in the series is to be fanservice.
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>>138586384
oh marone
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>>138586301
Vol 12 will be released in April, 2017. The longer he delays vol 12 the more I think he knows people will hate the end. There is a 90% chance it will have a downer end and most people don't like those.

>OVA would be awesome but that's just my hope talking
It could be the OVA that comes with the game. Do we even know if the game has been written yet?

>>138586384
Yui is only a slut for Hikki. Yukino is a slut for Pan-san and Hikki.
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>>138586446
Well she had more important role of being mediator to draw the main love interests together. But yes she is secondary and will have sad end as the "ungenuine"
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>>138575117
>Leaks. Vol 12 will be out in late April.
You mean Volume R, Volume 12 has no release date.
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>>138586529
No that would be bad handling of market to delay vol 12 that long. So far the hype train had been skillfully mastered by the licensor. With ANOTHER end vol next month time is ripe for main series release either simultaneously or soon after
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>>138586567
>Friends end
Yui is happy

>Yui end
Yui is really happy

>Loner end
Not possible, Yui probably wouldn't leave him alone.

>Yukino end
This is the only possible bad end for Yui.

With so many options I don't think Yui will have a bad end.
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>>138585988
So Girlish Number, then Qualidea, and THEN Yahari? Is that what I'm supposed to get out of this?
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>>138586867
He is GRRM of chinese cartoon novels.
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>>138586912
>cunt end
>school shootout
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>>138579105
>"I want what I want except if it's the people I want giving it to me"
Fucking kill yourself.
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>>138585047
>Yahari goes from WA2 to WA1
dropped
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>>138583210
That's not genuine.
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>>138587047
If all 8man wants is to be loved for who he is then he is done, Yui and Yukino have fallen in love with him. If he is done then he is under no obligation to answer either girl's feelings and would benefit from not choosing one.
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>>138587395
8man doesn't believe Yui's feelings are real and would never believe that Yukino would have feelings for him, claiming that someone of her league would never bother to look at him twice.

He is under obligation of himself to answer to their feelings, otherwise all the shit he's been moaning and bitching about is worthless making him a hypocrite and the last 4 volumes a colossal waste of time.
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Reminder that Yuckyno YukinoSHITa is objectively the worst girl.
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>>138587683
You mean objectively the best.
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>>138587572
>otherwise all the shit he's been moaning and bitching about is worthless making him a hypocrite and the last 4 volumes a colossal waste of time
This is very true. It annoys me that someone constantly has to say this, you'd think the entire fanbase would be on the same page by now, but nah.
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>>138587572
>8man doesn't believe Yui's feelings are real and would never believe that Yukino would have feelings for him, claiming that someone of her league would never bother to look at him twice.
So he isn't actively aware that they both love for real and that he is actually the focal point of a love triangle? I don't buy it, he isn't a moron.

>He is under obligation of himself to answer to their feelings
Genuine was his selfish desire to have what he wants. He sees it as selfish and thinks he will end up alone for it. Why would he be obligated to answer?

> otherwise all the shit he's been moaning and bitching about is worthless
It doesn't. It is about his desire to not misunderstand people and not do a little monkey dance for social convenience.

>the last 4 volumes a colossal waste of time.
His character development during that time is key. It is irrelevant to who he sticks his cock in.
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>>138588312
>I don't buy it, he isn't a moron.
Except, you know. He is.

>Why would he be obligated to answer?
>"I want genuine, so I'll lie to both of you and refuse to see the truth because that's what genuine is all about"

>It doesn't. It is about his desire to not misunderstand people and not do a little monkey dance for social convenience.
>I want to understand everything while actively choosing to misunderstand everything for my own convenience

>It is irrelevant to who he sticks his cock in.
It's irrelevant who it is but it is relevant if he chooses to ignore their feelings.
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I've only seen season one.

Should I watch season two or just read the light novel?
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>>138587683
Yukino is the most complex character with ironically the most problems. She isn't used to dealing with being in love, but in love she is.
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>>138588678
>Except, you know. He is.
He's pretty sharp and can see through a lot of people. Why wouldn't he be able to deduce that two girls who are obviously thirsty for him like him?

>>"I want genuine, so I'll lie to both of you and refuse to see the truth because that's what genuine is all about"
Genuine isn't necessarily a two way street. Is it really a lie if he is just not addressing it? Only if one confesses and he then starts pulling bullshit does it become bad. As long as no one confesses he is in the clear to behave how he wants.

>>I want to understand everything while actively choosing to misunderstand everything for my own convenience
He wants to understand, he isn't intentionally misunderstanding, he is just not following through on what they feel because he has no obligation to.

>relevant if he chooses to ignore their feelings.
I don't see how. He finally situated himself in a position to have his cake and eat it.
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>>138589349
If you liked the comedy in season one, you'd get more in the light novels that was left out. Then when you get to the school trip you could switch to binge watching all of season 2 to see if you liked the heavier misunderstandings and drama. if you like it, you could continue the LN
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>>138586813
Yui will have a bad end, obvious already. She would have asked Hachiman on a date alone and given him her gift as love confession arlready....but no she's giving Yukino a chance and she can't compete once Yukino starts making a move. Yukino has too much chemistry and interests in common with Hachiman while Yui has nothing but tits and a smile
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>>138589471
>He's pretty sharp and can see through a lot of people.
Except through the person that he wants to understand the most.
>Why wouldn't he be able to deduce that two girls who are obviously thirsty for him like him?
He's an idiot.

>Genuine isn't necessarily a two way street. Is it really a lie if he is just not addressing it?
Lie through omission.
>Only if one confesses and he then starts pulling bullshit does it become bad. As long as no one confesses he is in the clear to behave how he wants.
Except that's not what he wants at all, he doesn't want to live in a lie.

>He wants to understand, he isn't intentionally misunderstanding, he is just not following through on what they feel because he has no obligation to.
Tell that to 8man and Watari.
8man twists around Yui's actions so he won't believe Yui has feelings for him while he twists Yukino's words so she can remain perfect to him.

>I don't see how. He finally situated himself in a position to have his cake and eat it.
I wouldn't call putting himself in a situation where he thinks he's going to lose everything if he acts upon what he wants, having his cake and eating it.
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>>138589925
>he doesn't want to live in a lie.
It isn't living a lie is no one confesses. If both Yui and Yukino want to keep their feelings to themselves then it isn't a lie. It is only living a lie is one of them (or both) wants to seek a romantic relationship with him but doesn't.

>He's an idiot.
He isn't. He know the stakes.

>8man twists around Yui's actions so he won't believe Yui has feelings for him while he twists Yukino's words so she can remain perfect to him.
And that isn't really all that bad. It is more comfortable for him if Yukino is perfect and Yui is just a nice girl. Maybe it isn't fair to them but they are to blame for him to think that.

>I wouldn't call putting himself in a situation where he thinks he's going to lose everything if he acts upon what he wants, having his cake and eating it.
Maybe he isn't aware of his position but if he plays his cards right he can keep both by his side.
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>>138590699
I see hugging a stuffed Pan-san is enough for Yukino.

>>138589621
She is playing the long game. She knows that if she grabbed up 8man right away he would notice that Yukino is not happy with it and it would torch their relationship.
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Yukino will win her Hachiman then molest Yui.
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>>138590806
if character song is any indication, she's thinking about HIM as she hugs her Pan-San on those long sleepless nights.

Hachiman can't stand to see Yukino unhappy; he'll mope around, drink bitter coffee, be rude to Komachi.....that's why YuiXHachiman will never work, he'd just be thinking of Yukino even as Yui holds his hand
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>>138590472
>Maybe he isn't aware of his position but if he plays his cards right he can keep both by his side.
>plays his cards right
>I want something genuine

Easy there Hayato.
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>>138591002
that ending could work. HachimanXYukino, but he lets Yukino and Yui have some sweet sweaty sweltering lebian loving every few days. No one would be hurt by that, everyone would be happy.

Canon Quote: "I think I may love Yukino even more than I realized!"
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>>138591002
>"Damn."
>"Too bad..."
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She'll get the courage, she'll choose her own direction instead of being pushed around by family, and she'll go for what she wants.
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>>138574808
>>138574808
>spoilers from 2ch
These spoilers sound fake. but despite that i don't see yukino winning.

Remember ami getting btfo by taiga.

same thing's gonna happen to yukino.
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>>138591140
But what if Yui wants some Hikki dick instead?

>>138591008
8man can stomach Yukino being unhappy, he did it during vol 8 when Yukino was the most upset.

>if character song is any indication, she's thinking about HIM as she hugs her Pan-San on those long sleepless nights.
She is just thinking about unusual expectations and her hearts clamors for them. Those could be anything.
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>>138591318
>>138591140
Whatever Yukino does it doesn't matter. 8man does not like her. If he did he could just ask her to be his girlfriend and she would be and he knows it.
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>>138591391
You're confused, Yukino is the Taiga of Oregairu, Yui is the Minori who is going to have her happiness stomped so Yukino can be with Hachiman. Ami is Iroha.
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>>138591391
Yukino isn't the Ami of the series though.

>>138591395
>8man can stomach Yukino being unhappy, he did it during vol 8 when Yukino was the most upset.
Which is why he couldn't sleep, felt guilty, and and started to want something genuine?

>>138591453
>8man does not like her. If he did he could just ask her to be his girlfriend and she would be and he knows it.
Hint: Yukino never let him finish his question and he never asked thought or asked her to be his friend.
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>>138591546
or looking at things another way, Ami is Haruno
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>>138591580
>Yukino never let him finish his question and he never asked thought or asked her to be his friend.
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How does 8man protect both Yukino's and Yui's smiles and their friendship?
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>>138592097
He's not going to. Also Yukino and Yui's friendship is bullshit.
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>>138591580
>Hint: Yukino never let him finish his question and he never asked thought or asked her to be his friend.
So that implies that they won't get together in any way.

>>138592137
>He's not going to.
There is a way probably.

>Yukino and Yui's friendship is bullshit.
They care for eachother a lot.
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>>138592211
>So that implies that they won't get together in any way.
No, that implies he's never sought friendship with her but still wants to know every single thing about her, he wants something else, something much deeper.

>>138592211
>They care for eachother a lot.
Not enough to actually get to know one another.
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>>138575499
Really? I thought first volume was silver.
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>>138592303
>he wants something else, something much deeper.
Is it the sort of thing Yukino wants with him now? Then I don't see a reason why she would refuse.

>Not enough to actually get to know one another.
But it is strong enough that they won't be at eachother's throats.
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>>138592137
>He's not going to.
Why wouldn't he protect both of their smiles?
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>>138592943
That's the last part of the series, he doesn't care about the consequences, he knows if he pursues what he wants he will be left with nothing. But he doesn't care, he wants something genuine. Think of what happened in volume 7. Hachiman fucked himself up to preserve Hayato's group, because Hayato's group didn't want to deal with something real. They wanted to stay together and pretend like the whole confession thing never happened. Then take that knowledge and apply it to volume 11. Hachiman, Yukino and Yui are going for the opposite.
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>>138593081
>if he pursues what he wants he will be left with nothing
Why would he think that? Does he know the thing he wants will murder the club?

>Hayato's group didn't want to deal with something real. They wanted to stay together and pretend like the whole confession thing never happened.
>Hachiman, Yukino and Yui are going for the opposite.
The opposite of that is to deal with whatever bad feelings that may occur if all three's feelings and intentions are out in the open.

I still don't see how he can't protect both of their smiles unless you think that to protect one smile he will make the other frown.
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>>138593356
Ok, so you're clearly willfully retarded and just spouting random shit to get people to discuss shit with you. Here's your reply.
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There is only one way this will end.
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>>138593479
The issue is where he plans on dumping Yukino's body I suppose.
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>>138593459
>clearly willfully retarded
Where? I am just trying to see what you think.

Personally I just want an end where Yui and Yukino are friends and 8man is close friends with the girl he doesn't pick and all of them are happy.
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>>138593916
In bed
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I wonder what the cops will think when they find Yui's body. Maybe it will be a long investigation.
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>>138586718
Volume 12 releases the 25th
Volume R releases with BD the 28th

2ch leaks might be real, but there's gonna be tons of fake ones the next few weeks.
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>>138594187
God. How many NTR end or loner end fake spoilers will there be this time? I might start a few myself.
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>>138594187
>Volume 12 releases the 25th
Source?
Watari tweeted that he's still working on OreGairu and there's no news for 12 on the official site.
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>WW doesn't know how to end it so he goes full neutral
>we get a friends end with implied future love triangle shenanigans
>no one is happy but not enough people are pissed
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I want harem end

with Yurigahama sa head of it
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>>138593081
>Then take that knowledge and apply it to volume 11. Hachiman, Yukino and Yui are going for the opposite.
Just by 8man stopping Yui's proposal they already did the opposite of what Hayama's group does. There is no reason to go further. I just don't see a problem with the three staying together if that is what they want. They are decent people and they will come together in the end.

8man's genuine doesn't have to have a bad end. I mean what could he even do that would give him one? On the flip side 8man is always wrong and all this "shit is going to go to hell if I try to get what I want" is in his head.
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>>138595550
>Just by 8man stopping Yui's proposal they already did the opposite of what Hayama's group does. There is no reason to go further.
>Translation: It's okay t be a piece of shit as long as you know you're a piece of shit.
No.
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>>138595728
That isn't what I am saying. They already rejected that sort of superficiality.
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>>138594567
How about this one: Yukino and Hachiman spontaneously share a secret night of passion, then she leaves the country, and he ends up with Yui. He'll never see Yukino again and she becomes a bittersweet memory of youth... for about six months, then she shows up on his doorstep pregnant and disowned by her family, pissed at him for knocking her up, breaking Yui's heart, and derailing his college plans, because his youth romantic comedy is wrong as he expected.
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>>138596020
So they'll just embrace another form of superficiality where they know they're being shit on purpose.
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>>138596057
How are they being shit on purpose? All I am saying is that they should follow what 8man said. They don't have to go overboard and go through with things intentionally to hurt one another.
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>>138596265
When has 8man ever said any of that?
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Regardless of who wins, the ending is going to be boring as fuck unless something crazy happens.
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I really don't understand why people want a Yui end. Her and 8man have 0 chemistry togueter.
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>>138596429
Her feelings aren't genuine, after all.
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>>138596390
He wants them to struggle and not live a lie. He wants something genuine.

Just by doing that they aren't being like Hayama's group.
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>>138596406
More boring than S2?
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>>138596550
Because you think what they all want is what Yui just wants.
Yukino and 8man have a different idea of what they want, simply being together is Yui's dream but not 8man or Yukino's, they want a real relationship regardless if it's romantic in nature or not.
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>>138596651
But you act as if someone will get hurt if he pursues genuine and that 8man finding something genuine can't be beneficial to all three parties. His interactions with Yui and Yukino aren't a zero sum game.
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>>138596936
You act as if the three of them are going to a land where rainbows and unicorns exist and where no one has to lose out on anything, because Hachiman is going to reject them so he can be friends with them. Yui definitely doesn't want to be Hachiman's friend.
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>>138596936
Someone might get hurt, there's always a risk of that but they're willing to take that risk.

Coddling them, ignoring things to protect them, lying to protect them and keep them happy.
We already know Yukino hates that, she'd rather face the ugly truth than have Hachiman be a faker.

While Yui might have been fine with a lie, Yukino hates it.
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>>138597092
>than have Hachiman be a faker.
Last time he did that she took him back. Just saying.
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>>138597149
Last time he did that she told him to fuck off and stay gone.
That is, until he came crawling back begging for genuine with her.
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>>138597091
>Yui definitely doesn't want to be Hachiman's friend.
If it is between getting rejected by 8man or staying by his side while he has no GF Yui will always choose the latter.

>You act as if the three of them are going to a land where rainbows and unicorns exist and where no one has to lose out on anything
No one has to lose. No one should lose. No one deserves to lose.

>because Hachiman is going to reject them so he can be friends with them.
If that is what he wants then why wouldn't they comply? They seem pretty eager to please him and help him find what he is looking for.

>>138597092
>Someone might get hurt, there's always a risk of that but they're willing to take that risk.
There is always a risk that the three won't see eye to eye but if they do then it isn't a problem.

>Coddling them, ignoring things to protect them, lying to protect them and keep them happy.
8man isn't going to live that lie either. He can keep both happy however if he finds the right truth.

>Yukino hates it.
She sure hated that lie in vol 11.
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>>138597516
>8man isn't going to live that lie either. He can keep both happy however if he finds the right truth.
The right truth may not always be the happy one.

>She sure hated that lie in vol 11.
She sure did.
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>>138597092
>Coddling them
What is wrong with letting someone down easy or not trying to be a dick about things?

>>138597656
>The right truth may not always be the happy one.
It could be. I am just saying we shouldn't think someone will get hurt just because there is a chance someone might.

>She sure did.
She went along with it.
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But best girl still thinks he's a creep and isn't in the race.
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>>138597709
>What is wrong with letting someone down easy or not trying to be a dick about things?
Yukino hates mincing words and has already told 8man it's unnecessary, for her at least.

>She went along with it.
Prove it.
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It can only end where it started, with a car accident.
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>>138597797
No mistakes this time, we hit the dog right this time and if we take his owner with him that's fine too.
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>8man pursues romance/genuine is romantic in nature
Picking Yui will hurt Yukino, picking Yukino will hurt Yui. Any failed relationship hurts whoever is involved.

>8man doesn't pursue romance/genuine isn't romantic in nature
Yui will hurt, Yukino would probably hurt but not as much. Yukino would still want a genuine relationship and maybe Yui too.

>8man doesn't do shit
Yui and Yukino are hurt by his hypocrisy and shitting on their feelings by not having the decency to address them.

So where is this golden method where no one is hurt?
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>>138597877
The broken leg was an inside job.
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>>138597759
She respects him somewhat now
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>>138597985
>So where is this golden method where no one is hurt?
8man keeps them at bay thinking they have a chance with him romantically but never letting on that he knows exactly what he is doing.
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Part 16 is out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RBPGCSPq4E
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>>138598651
Good Sable, wear Yukino out so she won't have the energy to mess around with Hikki.
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>>138598787
Yukino is too tired to continue.
Hikki has taken over.
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>>138598651
Give me the cat.
Give me the cat.
Give me the cat.
Give me the cat.
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>>138598825
I thought Sable supported YuiHachi? Why is he supporting YukiHachi all of the sudden?
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