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I've never once had to look up a word used in anime subs.
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I've never once had to look up a word used in anime subs.

Why is anime written at an eighth grade reading level?
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I had to look up a few of the authors/novels mentioned in Psycho Pass, but no words. I think they're at an 8th grade level because subs are made by 8th graders for 8th graders.
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>>138030435
Because translating a Japanese word into 8 smaller English words is fucking easier then translating a Japanese word into a longer english one whilst still making sense.

If you want the direct meaning, learn Japanese.
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>>138030435
Because it's aimed at teenagers.
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>>138030435
Probably because they're being translated.
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Kind of irrelevant but has anyone ever heard the word "lewd" used outside of anime or spoken by other people that are not autistic weebs?
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>>138030435
are you saying you can only read at an eighth grade level?
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>>138030717
I think I read it once or twice in a few novels, never heard it spoken though.
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>>138030717
Well, when I was a kid and went to church the word "lewd" was used. But that's KJV for you.
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>>138030717
It's such a bizarre word that I could understand if it were being used ironically.
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Obscure and archaic words for something that could've been easily switched for two smaller, easier to parse words are pretty rife in bad scanlations.
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>>138030717
Because the real world is much more perverted than anime
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>>138030435
Sparse vocabulary isn't why anime subs have a terrible reputation, awkward syntax and ugly orthography is. Minor grammatical errors like abuse of enclitics and lack of tense agreement also break reading flow.

At least you can't just OCR anime, plug it into a machine translator and try to make the result readable. It's amazing how people continue to gobble shitty LNs up despite them having as much in common with the original as those awful hentai rewrites.
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When you learn a second language, you typically learn the simpler words first.

As >>138030819
points out, it's much more accessible for everyone involved to use 'baka' and 'yūkani' instead of 'higenjitsuteki'.
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>>138031076

I like being treated as a literate college graduate.
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>>138030717
Isn't there like a "Lewd Acts Law" in the US legal system? Besides that, I've never heard the word outside anime/4chan.
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>>138030717
I've seen it once on a Wikipedia article that had nothing to do with anime
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>>138030717
I heard someone got arrested for "lewd acts" once
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>>138031218
it's part of child abuse laws, "lewd and lascivious acts"
it's pretty sparely used in regular conversation though
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>>138031169
You have to remember that all languages, Japanese and English both included, have different registers and modes of speech for different contexts and occasions. In Japanese, this distinction is enforced grammatically with politeness speech whereas English achieves this with vocabulary and differences in grammar like eg. the presence of absolutes.

So, when translating from Japanese, peppering speech and narration with words that don't fit the register isn't only shoddy translation - it's outright ungrammatical. A pair of smug anime girls wouldn't call the target of their bullying/affection 'pusillanimous', but more likely 'weak', 'afraid' or 'a coward'.
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>>138031654
>A pair of smug anime girls wouldn't call the target of their bullying/affection 'pusillanimous'
I think that anime would be better if this exact thing happened more often.
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>>138031701
Then they'd be a pair of ojousamas most likely.
This sounds like a really good anime actually.
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>>138031773
FUND IT
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>>138031654

Your example is a pretty specific case. Even still, I don't think it's unusual for gifted youngsters to have an advanced vocabulary.
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>>138030435
Maybe you're just watching chuuni stuff.
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>>138030435
>not knowing moon
>watching shit subs
GAIJIN GO HOME!!
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>>138031919
yeah i can't believe an obvious indo-european native speaker wouldn't know a language that takes 2500+ hours to learn.
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>>138030435
>x character calls y character "senpai"
>subs translate "senpai" to y's name
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>>138031979
I don't want to share 4chan with you, please leave.
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>>138032095
>saving faggot reddit animal pictures

fuck off kid
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>>138031979
Indo-European languages are quite diverse, so that isn't really an excuse. Topicality isn't that alien when you have things like Hindi adopting partial ergativity, and it's certainly not the biggest stumbling block for Japanese learners. That honor belongs to kanji and perhaps pitch accent if you're aiming for fluency in spoken Japanese, and only because nobody in the West will teach you that it's even important.
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>>138030717
I know a guy that got a ticket for public lewdity
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>>138032213
No idea why you're acting like a fag but it's pretty well held that Japanese is the hardest language for an indo-European language speaker to learn and is in the class of languages that take over 2000 hours of study to reach fluency. By comparison, going from English to Spanish or Italian would take only 500 hours.
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>>138032213
>pitch accent
Better then tones in Mandarin
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>>138032265
You're that /djt/ shitposter, aren't you?
lmao
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>>138032325
I've never once spent any time attempting to learn Japanese, so no. I'd rather learn four indo-European languages and travel Europe.
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>>138032265
I'd rather learn a language that I would use more often than learn a language that I don't give a shit about.
Spanish and Italian will never be helpful unless I get deported to Mexico or Europoor.
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>>138032440

Knowing Spanish, Italian, German and French seems like a pretty good setup to me.
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>>138032477
mostly likely if you're in an international business workfield.
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>>138032440
>use often
You use Japanese often? Other then weeb stuff, its barely spoken outside of Japan
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>>138032535

Also that language spread covers most of the most significant/interesting cultures in the world.
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>>138032440
>Spanish and Italian will never be helpful for a weeb that never leaves his room such as myself
FTFY
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>>138032539
sorta, since I'm a hafu.
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>>138030717
I say it in real life because of /a/. Generally, no.
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Because anime characters speak at a 8th grade level.
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>>138032650
>hafu.
Huh, interesting. Must be weird learning Japanese and I'm assuming English in the same household.
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>>138030435
it can't be helped
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>>138030435
Wasn't it Hemingway that said that if you use big words for the hell of it, you're just being a prick? Paraphrased, obviously.
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>>138035534

There's a difference between being really good at ski-ball and not bragging about it and being really shit at ski-ball and using the excuse of ostentatious, braggadocious behavior as a shield.
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>>138035534
When I use big words it's because they're appropriate.

When people use words outside my vocabulary it's because they're pretentious faggots.
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>>138035718

To be fair to Hemingway he was a prose novelist, the favored style of which tends towards simplicity depending on era.
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All animation, both eastern and western, is made for children and those with child-like minds.
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>>138032265
>2000 hours
Holy fuck and I only just started trying to get hiragana down.
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>>138036701
It's actually more than 2000 hours. It's in 2200 class difficulty, but Japanese is classified as the most difficult within that grouping.
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>>138036701
Its one of only 5 languages classed as superhard by the US state department. The others are Korean, Mandarin,Cantonesewhich are all quiet similar to Japanese and Arabic
http://www.effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-difficulty
あきらめる
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>>138036701
Remembering the Kanji/Kana by Heisig, anon, and do not skip volume 2.
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>>138032265
Arabic or russian is much harder for English speakers to learn.
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>>138037055
see
>>138037036
Category V: 88 weeks (2200 hours)
Languages which are exceptionally difficult for native English speakers
Arabic
Cantonese (Chinese)
Mandarin (Chinese) *Japanese
Korean

>* Languages preceded by asterisks are usually more difficult for native English speakers to learn than other languages in the same category.
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>>138036883
I was under the impression its tied first with Arabic, no?
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>>138037081
>Languages preceded by asterisks are usually more difficult for native English speakers to learn than other languages in the same category.
Pic related
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So you're telling me none of y'all niggas watched ITW's Noucome?
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>>138037414
Although it was pleb tier vocabulary, their wizardry was just in typesetting after all.
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>>138030819
"Incorrigible" for "can't be helped" is a good one
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>>138030435
Watch more anime.
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>>138037414
Japanese and English are different to the point you have to simplify translations slightly.
Or at least thats what I tell myself to justify the 2200 hours of my life i'm using to learn a language to enjoy girly cartoons better
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>>138037592
At least get into the poetry.
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>>138037855
>poetry
What are you a fag?
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>>138037963
No, I read Lady Ise poems and self-insert as the bereft lover.
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>>138031654
>whereas English achieves this with vocabulary and differences in grammar like eg. the presence of absolutes.
This also happens in Japanese. Things like 丁寧語 aren't a great indicator of actual politeness.
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>>138038018
Okay you've convinced me. I don't seem to be at a level I can enjoy them yet but I get the gist of them i'l try again in a year or so
Jim Morrison best poet
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