Better or worse than EVA?
The best mecha show of all time?
What are your opinions /a/?
Better than EVA.
Not the best mecha show of all time.
But I think it's really good regardless.Better than diebuster anyways.
The story was better than EVA, the execution not so much. Eva was only deep for people who have never read that bible because they translated it into an edgy cartoon. With that said though, the way they told it was what caught more people's attention
>>137837286
>Eva was only deep for people who have never read that bible because they translated it into an edgy cartoon.
The Christian overtones had absolutely nothing to do with EVA being deep
It's the best mecha show ever made
Better.
Also, Gunbuster 5 > Gunbuster 6
6 is not bad at all, but 5, in addition to looking kickass and being hype, wraps up nearly all of the thematic development perfectly, while 6 is just a fun bonus level.
>>137836733
Better by far. Much better pacing too. Best is too hard to tell, the future is uncertain after all.
>>137836733
They were both written by Hideaki Anno so I can't choose
>>137836733
>Better or worse than EVA?
I like them both a lot but Gunbuster is just above Eva for me.
>>137837286
>the execution not so much
Gunbuster had way better execution than Evangelion though. Evangelion had a couple of episodes that weren't really important in the other all story and the final two episodes are incomplete.
>>137836733
Better than EVA storywise (in terms of cohesiveness), script wise, visual direction wise and ending wise.
EVA, I think had more potential and the ambiguity played in it's favor.
Neither would be the best mecha show of all time. I don't think I've watched enough mecha shows to really say which that would be.
Those are my opinions, anon.
>tfw the taste in this thread isgreat
>>137836733
But muh 2deep4u
>>137837496
Gunbuster also probably needed at least another episode to flesh out all of it's characters and their relationships. Smith's death in particular occurs far too quickly after he's introduced.
>>137837866
Not really. He had a purpose for being on screen, his development mostly came posthumously. Granted there isn't much, but it wasn't important.
The series was masterfully paced. I think /a/ is just too used to filler that it flips back and thinks if something isn't spelled out there isn't enough "character development"
The story isn't about Smith, its about Noriko, then Amano then Coach. Everything else is tertiary.
Also, Re: Smith and his rapid death, that segment was entirely for Noriko's benefit to develop her and it did it quite organically.
>>137838001
The problem is that as far as we know the two only interact for a few minutes. It's very difficult to believe Noriko formed such an intense attachment to him in such a short period of time. I don't even necessarily need the development to occur on screen, just a time skip and the implication that the two were more romantically interested in each other than having a couple awkward conversations in a hallway.
>>137838243
>It's very difficult to believe Noriko formed such an intense attachment
I didn't get that there was that significant of a romantic undertone, other than some youthful infatuation. What did stick out was how wracked with guilt Noriko was for being a shit-tier pilot that she decided to finally man the fuck up and git gud.
>>137836733
Not better than Eva but still pretty good. Ending arguably better than Eva.
>>137838329
You could have sacrificed an actual character to do that though, even a side character. Smith is just a literal nothing character. Someone as developed as the childhood friend would have been perfect for the task. As it is the whole thing just happens too fast.
I don't know which I'm more mad about getting tricked into watching. Gunbuster and Diebuster or Toradora.
>>137839077
Fuck off moeshitter
>inb4 sputtering accusations of /v/
>>137839174
No I'd just rather watch a decent mecha than an overrated shitty one.
>>137839201
Stick to Aldnah.Zero, faggot. It's definitely more your speed.
>>137839228
Both Gunbuster and A/Z are shit though.
>>137837286
What are you talking about? Did you even watch Eva or read the bible? They have nothing to do with each other except for some superficial symbols. Even Anno confirms that the biblical stuff in Evangelion doesn't mean anything.
Eva is 'deep' because you need to pay a little attention to what the characters are saying to understand the story.
>>137839296
Kill yourself, subhuman scum
its certainly in the top 3
Gunbuster's much better than EVA
Gunbuster is a shallow nerd's wet dream with enough old movie and anime references, inconsequential science, robots, aliens and other "fuck yeah" shit and fanservice to like and is old and well-animated enough to have credibility to like. Add to that a sob ending and people actually call it better than Evangelion.
>>137836733
Evangelion is still Anno's best work. Too bad instead of making more masterpieces he thought the Rebuilds were a good idea.
>>137841203
Evangelion is a shallow nerd's wet dream with enough old movie and anime references, inconsequential science, robots, aliens and other "fuck yeah" shit and fanservice to like and is old and well-animated enough to have credibility to like. Add to that a DEEP ending and people actually call it better than Gunbuster.
>>137841203
>>137841219
Drink bleach, evatards
>>137837286
5/10, I actually started to get kind of mad.
>>137841309
That would be true if Evangelion was shallow and tried to be a homage of a better show, then abandon it, then return to ape it episodes later for a central and lame plot point (muh coachi).
>>137836733
Better than EVA
Both Diebuster and TTGL were better
My opinion is that it was a great start to an idea that GAINAX continued to grow eventually culminating in TTGL.
>>137841352
Fuck off, butthurt evatard
>>137841433
Gunbuster>>>>TTGL>>>>Diebuster
They're all good. But Gunbuster's the best
>>137841423
Evatards actually believe this
I'm ashamed to like Eva because I have to share a fanbase with delusional retarded fanboys like the retards in this thread
>>137841433
Eva>TTGL>Diebuster>Gunbuster
>>137841587
Delusional Eva fanboy spotted
It's
Gunbuster>>>>TTGL>>>>Eva>>>Diebuster
>>137841640
Delusional Gunbuster fanboy spotted
It's
Eva>TTGL>Diebuster>Gunbuster
>eva
>mecha
Still best mech designs
>>137841587
this
>>137841423
>if Evangelion was shallow and tried to be a homage of a better show
You mean like Mazinger, Ultraman and Ideon? Nothing about Evangelion is truly original.
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Ace wo Nerae was better.
Ochoufujin > Onee-sama
Coach > Coach
Maki > that useless little shit who never shows up after episode 1
And naturally Hiromi > Noriko
>>137841423
Evangelion was Anno after some basic Freud reading. It's a show where both father and older brother figures cuck Shinji, who was basically Anno's self-insert with the depression and the Oedipus complex that he had.
>>137841640
>TTGL
>better than Eva
You have no right to call anyone delusional.
>>137845749
>2deep4u plot is better than having fun
Whatever , pretentious asshole
>>137836733
I can't believe people think Gunbuster's story or its characters are actually good.
>>137847000
TTGL is more pretentious than Eva. Both shows are good. I'm not joking.
>all this contrarianism ITT
Of course Evangelion is better. It's actually 2deep and has religious symbolism.
>>137847000
>buzzwords
>f-f-fun
>>137847301
I can't believe people think Gunbuster's story or it's characters are actually bad
>>137847326
Evangelion being deep has nothing to do with religious symbolism you idiot.
>>137847343
>fun is bad
This is why I hate liking the same show you faggots do.
I don't want to be a part of such a pretentious group of retards
>>137847357
I think it does, although my previous post described them as separate things.
>>137847350
They couldn't be more fucking bland.
Who actually gave a fuck about COACHII or SUMISU?
I enjoyed Gunbuster but the characters and plot certainly weren't the reason.
>>137847410
It sets a tone, and that's it. The "deep" aspects of Evangelion have to do with how the characters are developed and explored and have nothing to do with the religious symbolism.
>>137836733
Gunbuster is one of the best mecha shows out there easily. The ending was 10/10.
>>137847377
Never said fun was bad but you sound like one of them faggots who defend harem shit and other guilty pleasures because FUN or think some battle shounen garbage is better than Eva because FUN
Fun is subjective. Someone can have fun with Eva's "2deep4uplot" and find TTGL's tryhard over the top shit to be boring tripe.
Gunbuster fits my taste better but NGE had better /m/
And neither are the best mecha show of all time.
Evangelion was really great when it wanted to be, but it was honestly too long. The series has too many filler episodes where nothing of note happens, or pointless story arcs that add nothing to the overall series. If it was half the length it would be ten times better.
Gunbuster is the same though. 2 episodes of Gunbuster are actually good, the rest is pretty dull.
>>137847444
>bland
Nice buzzword
>>137848342
>buzzword
Nice buzzword.
>>137837286
The biblical stuff is just there for flavour.
>>137838001
>>137838243
>Also, Re: Smith and his rapid death, that segment was entirely for Noriko's benefit to develop her and it did it quite organically.
I'm coming a bit late here to agree with the dude that said it happens too fast. It definitely isn't a shitty and it fulfills it's purpose well enough but even still.
I think we can compare this with Toji and Kensuke in Evangelion. They both also only exist in order to enable development on Shinji to happen, but they stick around for much longer and have a bit more of meaningful interaction with him. That isn't necessarily a better thing, it's just that this helps immensely to mask the fact they're merely devices to propel Shinji forward, while with Smith it's clear to see.
This kind of stuff is why I think it's silly when people argue that one has "better pacing" than the other. You can't really compare the pacing decisions taken for a 6 episode OVA with the ones in a 26 episode series, because there's stuff one or the other simply couldn't do given its intended run time.
>>137850425
To be quite fair to both series, they both have massive pacing problems. Gunbuster takes 4 episodes to warm up, and eva is filled with pointless padding episodes.
That fucking dance episode in eva. WHY.
>>137836733
It has a great piece of soundtrack
>>137850983
Its to develop character. I honestly don't think the show works without those episodes. They're a high point to contrast the lows, a period of competent functioning to make the fall more dramatic.
Eva is not tight, but it is effective. It might have been able to cut three or maybe four episodes but not a full cour. And I don't think the padding in the episodes is the worst thing either.
>>137840973
STOP
Evangelions religious symbolism in the show does have a purpose, notice how escapism is a recurring theme in Eva.
Misato drinks
Shinji runs
Gendo works to achieve his one goal
Kaji fucks women
etc. etc.
the religious symbolism applies to that
>>137836733
>The best mecha show of all time
Thanks for the laugh.
>>137850983
I don't think the happy, "filler-y" episodes were pointless. The ending wouldn't feel as desolate and it wouldn't bring such a sensation of everything going down to shit if there weren't some happy, careless episodes earlier to add contrast.
>>137838381
Better than EoE or the last two episodes?
>>137850983
>That fucking dance episode in eva. WHY.
It's more of personal statement.
another pointless thread
>>137854537
At least we can agree Evangelion is better.
>>137854537
>bumping the thread for no reason
Retard.
>>137854558
didnt watch gunbuster but eva is my fav anime, its pointless because everyone will always like different fckin things.
>>137837286
>Evangelion bible meme post
Shit tier bait anon
>>137851378
>Misato drinks
>Shinji runs
>Gendo works to achieve his one goal
>Kaji fucks women
>etc. etc.
Human traits irrespective of religious symbolism.
You're a shit. It's been confirmed that Anno used the symbolism because it looks cool and sounded neat.
>>137854956
No, he said once to a group of children that he picked the name because it sounded cool. That doesn't mean that the religious symbols were completely irrelevant or put in for no reason whatsoever.
It is true though that none of the people on the team were Christian and that none of them had a terribly extensive or nuanced knowledge of Judeo-Christian mythology or Judeo-Christian ideas in general.
>>137855089
Thus enforcing the fact that the "religious overtones" are, in fact, a load of guff.
>>137836733
I don't know how anyone from a critical standpoint would say Gunbuster is better than Evangelion. It has some of the worst character writing I've ever come across in any medium. The first three episodes were agonizingly mediocre.
I would say it's enjoyable for taking itself less seriously than Evangelion, but the fact is that it often presents itself as seriously as Eva.
much better
Anno was downhill from it
>>137857594
I don't get it either. The ending is pretty emotional and I liked the reasonably realistic look at relativity, but besides that it wasn't terribly special. I like it quite a bit but if it didn't have Anno's name to it I think people would have forgotten about it entirely.
Shut the fuck up Archaeon
>>137858252
Gunbuster is much more enjoyable to watch than EVA
When 4 out of 6 episodes of your show are shit, you know you've done something wrong.
>>137858335
Not after the first time. You can always find new details and interesting ideas in Eva, which is enjoyable. Gunbuster is a bore to rewatch besides the last episode.
>>137858372
that's just like your opinion
>Better than Eva
>Implying
Better than all of Sunrise at least.
>>137837344
This.
The symbolism is interesting in how it creates a weird eerie tone to avoid starting the show with its head up its own assa la Rahxephon.
>>137837627
>Visual direction wise
Are you serious
>>137854956
Even though you're more right you're still ignorant.
Anno said that he liked the symbolism because it felt like a creation of a new religion. The "it sounded cool" comes from how he named the show, which doesn't make sense since he didn't come up with the name Evangelion anyway.
People place too much importance on Anno when NGE was a group effort. All the people who helped had different opinions on the symbolism.
>>137858430
now I'm certainly no expert but I'm not sure if nipples work like that
