Why do people like this?
Greatest love story ever told.
>>137585640
the illiad is the greatest love story ever told, Toradora is just a meme pal
It's keit-ai without the alternate universe.
>>137585549
I don't get it either, it is a good first half with an awful second half. Good thing Minori and Ami dodged that bullet called Ryuji.
>>137586000
>Ryuji
best girl in this show brah
>>137585549
Because it has good characters, good pacing, isn't subsumed by its own cliches and has a fairly conclusive ending.
>>137586025
He certainly was a girl.
Taiga' silky smooth thighs.
>>137586030
It has three decent characters and two shit ones.
Basically what happened was, people called it "the greatest love story ever told" as a joke, but the redditors and MALers didn't think we were joking, so now some unironically think it's good.
Ryuuji was a bro.
Taiga's dere moments were endearing, even if her tsun moments were insufferably cuntish.
The characters had some depth, which is a lot since most anime are cardboard cutout caricatures of humanity. They had flaws as people and while some of them were actively worked on to overcome others remained which led to story development as the series progressed.
It felt human. The moments when it tried to hit home, it hit home like Hiroshima.
It's a decent love story, and for most anime viewers, it's probably their first romance anime. My biggest complaint was that both of the other girls, were more likeable. I almost wish the story was between Ryuji and Ami, because Ami was a pretty interesting character.
they managed to ignore taiga
>>137586250
>we
>>137585549
Because it's good.
>>137585839
>Iliad
>not the Odyssey
Helen a shit. Penelope is best girl
>>137586408
>are
http://strawpoll.me/6850053
>>137586561
>tiny
PU RE
PU RE PA REH DO
>>137586263
The characters are fine but they aren't anything special. Their development and flaws seem more like aspects tacked on the the character after the fact than natural features of the character as it was created.
>>137586578
>http://strawpoll.me/6850053
Who the fuck is Inko. Also the ending was fucking terrible.
>Marry me
>OK
>randomly leaves for a while and cucks ryuji for no reason
>comes back out of nowhere
It's like they wanted to put some sort of twist on the end and couldn't think of an actual idea.
>>137586030
It really doesn't. It had decent to good direction by animu standards but the writing was trash.
>>137586865
THE PARAKEET
INKO-CHAN
FUCK YOU MAN HOW COULD YOU NOT KNOW
>>137586931
>It had decent to good direction by animu standards
There are a few scenes that look fantastic but for the most part the direction and visuals in general are utterly unimpressive. I could probably count on two hands all of the shots I actually liked.
>>137585549
There are shockingly few romance anime that progress the main relationship at a reasonable pace without resorting to drastic shoujo stalling or harem antics, so Torodora gets a free pass due to lack of competition.
>>137587038
Where did I say anything about impressive? Well, the fact that I didn't fall asleep 10 seconds in like I do with average seasonal shows qualifies the direction as good.
>>137587073
>reasonable pace
>no drastic shoujo stalling or harem antics
Did we watch the same show?
Ryuji and Taiga should have gotten together by episode 13. There's constantly new drama and stupid side romances to excuse why they don't.
>>137587174
No, it doesn't. It counts as barely competent.
>>137587230
>by animu standards
Yes it does.
>>137587281
Anime does not have significantly lower quality of visual direction than any visual other medium. In fact I would say that it's actually slightly above average simply due to the level of freedom a creator has in shot composition and movement.
>>137587389
You sure convinced me with those hot opinions fagtron
>>137585549
Because it had some decent relationship developments that weren't just hamfisted in without reason? The MC and supporting cast are weak in some areas, but the story itself isn't awful, just not good in some places. Taiga is also probably one of the better written female characters in this genre.
Depends on what you think Toradora's supposed to be about also: A romance triangle of multiple contestants vs A story describing various takes on what love is and isn't.
>>137587442
Likewise dickweed
>>137587504
Unlike you I never tried to present my opinions as objective.
>>137586528
Good one, but the Lysistrata is the best love story comedy ever told
>>137587556
You were acting like it was a forgone conclusion that anime is visually less impressive than other media. At least I presented an argument for why I disagreed.
>>137587628
>visually less impressive
We were talking about direction. Your spaghetti is showing, stupid weeaboo.
>>137587738
Yes, and one of the primary features of the visuals is the direction. But I get it, you don't actually want to argue, you just want to have a tantrum because I didn't accept your baseless assumption as a good defense for your shit show. Fuck off.
>>137587628
Anima can be visually impressive, but all too often it isn't especially for adaptions or serialized episodes for TV due to budget restraints and the fact that for all the options for anime to be used as an artistic medium, even more options exist to save a buck by using cheap gimmicks.
Also fan bases tend to be exceptionally shit.
I don't know either, I mean it's not bad, but it's too long and sometimes, too many times actually, it's boring, and some characters are too annoying. So it could have been better if they had made a 12 chapters series.
>>137587825
Except I wasn't talking about visuals at all when I mentioned direction. Don't put words into my mouth just so you can have an argument where there is none. Then again, re-reading >>137587038 you're probably really just that retarded to genuinely misinterpret what I said from the get go.
>>137588160
That's literally impossible. It would be like talking about the plot structure without talking about the writing. The two are intrinsically linked. But if you want to talk about direction specifically, then my opinion is exactly the same for the reasons outlined here >>137587389.
>>137587192
Yes, but there was always a different reason for drama. With shoujo there is one reason that constantly repeats.
>>137588214
Can you just for a minute stop pretending to be retarded? You knew what I meant. You yourself specifically said ">scenes that look fantastic" as if that's the extent as direction goes. Kyoanus objectively has pretty visuals but every single one of their shows bore me to tears. From the way you write I'm guessing you're not over 18 yet.
>>137588380
How then does Toradora use direction to keep the viewer engaged? What specific techniques? What shots did you like? What scenes? Give me specifics so I can grasp what you're trying to say.
>>137588441
>What shots did you like?
God fucking damn you're never going to get it into your fucking head are you?
>>137585549
Because it's simple,and, well, that's all, a 5 years old could understand the plot without think too hard about it.
>>137588472
Fine, then. You said earlier that it didn't put you to sleep and that that qualified as "good". In what ways did the show not put you the sleep?
>>137588441
>what shots did you like
oh dear god
>>137588511
Easy as one, two, three~
Because Taiga is the best
>>137585549
Babby's first drama
Ami a best
>>137588991
Taiga you mean
>>137586362
THANK YOU ANON.
Minorin was okay. But honestly ami was a better character than both her and taiga, not to mention a better fit for ryuji.
>>137585549
cuz it's good
The "confessioon" when Taiga tells "yukimura" that she loves Ryuji in the snow follew by the ED was awesome. I still get goosebumbs at that scene.
>>137585921
A WAY
Golden Time is better.
I think normalfags like Toradora because they are all betacucks and women, so watching a grown man get the shit beat out of him by a midget girl turns them on.
>>137585549
A simple but effective love story for young males. Low on harem content even if tuned up for the anime. Side characters added to support the story rather than to sell you a waifu.
Not being a more serious adult drama romance or a shoujo Toradora hits a particular niche that is often fed nothing but boob bouncing harem in terms of romance and rarely get anything of substance catered specifically to them.
>>137592121
>Golden Time is better.
I wish it was but it really wasn't. The anime looked like it got half the budget Toradora did, which wasn't even JC STAFF's biggest bet to begin with. Kaga Kouko was a decent female lead, and the anime is good up until the halfway point, but anything involving ghost banri and the amnesia was awful. The drama was infuriating, and Banri's feelings wavering between girls because "m-muh past self liked the other girl" was annoying. I fucking wish Golden Time was half as good as Toradora.
Maybe the adaptation was weak, though some of the core elements seem bad.
>>137592240
Ghost Banri isn't as bad as cuck Ryuuji getting the shit beat out of him, being a house servant, being attracted to the career sporty asexual girl with red hair, and rejecting best girl, and then at the end magically falling for midget girl that beat the shit out of him and made him her servant.
>>137585549
Undestand that shippers are very, very desperate people and will jump on the first bone you throw at them. Toradora is literally a rotting cow corpse which equals to gold to them.
>>137586063
>cooks and cleans like an independent adult
>"lol he's a girl"
This is why /a/nons are stereotyped as eternal virgins.
>>137586250
> Toradora appears
> it's nothing special
> "people" "ironically" called it "the greatest love story ever told"
> suddenly, redditors and MALer like it because some "people" said so
People dont have opinions on their own because the whole internet follows some "peoples" saying.
>>137586362
Ami was a cunt but by far the most mature character
It is the greatest love story ever told
>>137586623
Are they saying pre-parade or preparation? I'll never know.
Also somehow vanilla rhymes with burning love.
>>137585549
I need more awful melodrama in my life. Recommend me reddit.
>>137585549
It's fucking garbage with ruined potential and then turned to a generic ass route.
Characters are bland as fuck.
Only pathetic kiddy niggas like this garbage.
>>137585549
>okada
>>137592781
Anything in which Mari Okada is involved
>>137593094
Pls post more Taiga
>>137585549
Tried to watch this, never went beyond 7 min mark.
>>137592121
It was ok but the ghost bullshit was really fucking stupid.
>>137593274
Palm top tiger waifu
>>137586362
>for most anime viewers, it's probably their first romance anime
Wasn't it Ouran though? Shit was insanely popular 10 years ago, Toradora came out only 2 years later
>>137585549
i don't know anon. I'm not one of those people.
TRDR is still my personal favorite after all these years.
>>137586250
Successful baiting.
>>137592632
Men raised by Single Mothers are more likely to be beta.
>>137585549
Same reason why people like any shitty series - marketing and self-perpetuating popularity.
>>137585549
Because of the 10/10 opening, that's why
>>137595225
10/10 ending, you mean.
I haven't been watching anime for very long, and I certainly haven't watched much romance anime, but I thought Toradora was pretty solid. I've looked around a little but haven't found too much from the genre that looks interesting to me.
>>137595307
10/10Taigayou mean
>>137595349
This too.
>>137595307
Best part about the endingwas that it meant it was finally over
>>137595405
Well aren't you witty.
>>137585921
>>137586747
What the fuck are you talking about, how could you possibly determine this?
>>137595405
This was supposed to be a love comedy? I thought is was a tragedy about out MC getting abused so hard he gets Stockholm syndrome and start dating his abuser.
>>137586623
shit opening
>>137590940
How was Ami a better fit? I mean, other than the fact that Ryuji was a somewhat flat character. Part of Toradora's claim about love is that it's about who needs you, not just fits.
>>137592371
>magically
Come back when you can watch the show without being preoccupied with your personal opinion of a character. The entire show highlights how the process developed.
>>137592672
Those are the puns the Nips love so much. I found it kind of clever.
>>137595349
She was one of the strong points of the show.
>>137595439
Certain character points, like Taiga being nice at Christmas, feel like they were written backward. Like the writers wanted Taiga to be nice at Christmas and then came up with some reason why she would be rather than just letting the character act naturally at Christmas.
>>137600253
I thought that was Taiga being more comfortable around new friends which was why she opened up that way? She still didn't tell anyone her reasoning for it besides Ryuji.
>>137600370
No, the reason for it is some BS involving a dream about Santa Claus and being nice so she'll get a gift. Also some vague sentiment about being kind to family at Christmas. It's explained, but it would have have made just as much or even more sense if Taiga hated Christmas due to it's association with spending time with your family.
because its amazing
>>137592781
Two shows. Kokoro Connect. My comedy snafu bullshit. They're exactly what you want.
>>137594259
and serial killers/rapists.
>>137585549
Because best girl winning to make the greatest love story ever told.
>>137585549
When I first read this I thought it would be about platonic/familial relationship of two main leads fight again hardship and society. Then it get spiraled down into love triangle bullshit.
>>137600451
Good point. It does seem a bit odd that they didn't use the opportunity to elaborate more on family matters.
>>137585921Threadly reminder that you should stop posting that because it's a thing.https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
The first OP was pretty catchy.
>>137585921
>>137585549
It wasn't a tease and people make choices and the status quo changes.
>>137604599
>"it wasn't a tease"
>conclusion was obvious 10 episodes before it happened and the only thing that prevented the MC & main girl from getting together like everyone knew they would was something irrationally setting the story back to the usual status quo at the end of every episode
yeah no fuck off
>>137585549
Babby's first romance done right.
>>137593891
Reminder that her new uniform was black because she wasn't a virgin any more.
>>137606918
What makes you think this?
>>137607053
Symbolism.
>>137607089
Who did she lose it to then?
>>137607201
Me.
>>137604599
>>137604669
To be fair, the pairing was obvious from the start and was pretty much thrown in your face in the first few minutes of the episode with the internal monologue. The whole point was to illustrate that it isn't so much a question of who ends up with whom, but a story giving its take on what that "something in this world that no one has seen" is and isn't.
