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So what do you think of Kotetsujo no Kabaneri beside "i
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So what do you think of Kotetsujo no Kabaneri beside "it looks like an AoT ripoff"? Will it be good? Will the production crash halfway like most WIT anime?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae33SmICsn0
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>>137398809

Pretty much guaranteed to be great design and animation wasted on absolutely terrible storytelling characterization and structure. I can't wait till the second half where everybody just starts randomly betraying each other and constantly switching sides, allegiances and goals to the opposite extreme every couple of episodes. Who is going to be the pretty boy that is ungodly amazing at everything and who keeps dying and coming back to life anyway. These seem to be pretty much staples of Okouchi writing at this point. Also worth considering is how much of the show will have shitty Sawano drop rap vocal tracks drowning out the dialogue in scenes versus normal BGM as has been the case with him pretty much since Kill la Kill.
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I want Rolling Girls back.
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>>137399004
>Also worth considering is how much of the show will have shitty Sawano drop rap vocal tracks drowning out the dialogue in scenes versus normal BGM as has been the case with him pretty much since Kill la Kill.
That's the director and the sound director's mistake though. Nanatsu no Taizai and Owari no Seraph barely had vocal songs too.
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>>137399152
The only good things about Rolling girls were the animation of the first two episodes plus some climaxes at the end of each arc, some backgrounds and the music.
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>>137399004

Don't forget how it has virtually the same casting as just about every other big budget popular looking thing now. Maaya Uchida officially confirmed for every show since about mid 2014. I still have no fucking clue how she and Sumire Uesaka who surprisingly isn't in this rose so ridiculously fast in the industries seiyuu casting over the last few years but it's absolutely fucking insane. Even Ai Kayano, Yuuki Aoi and Saori Hayami don't get this many roles.

I don't know just every show feels like it must have 33% of the same people involved in it all the time. Gotta have that seasonal Sawano soundtrack too.
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I kind of hate having to resign myself to knowing this show is going to look really pretty at least early on but end up really really really fucking bad and just an absolute clusterfuck probably within a month or so. A part of me is still holding on to the slimmest hope that it can just hold together somewhat and at least be a guilty pleasure but when I look at the staff I just know they'll find a way to make it completely intolerable to anyone besides MAL Hypetards.
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>>137399388
It will be the blockbuster of next season, the only competitor being Boku no Hero Academia.
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>>137399604
>the only competitor being Boku no Hero Academia
this, its already decided next season will be full of /co/ crossboarders
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>>137399792
With the amount of popular manga adaptations and original anime plus some underdogs, next season will be hell on /a/.
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>>137399245
It's weird how for someone who complains about name brand being the only selling point nowadays, you always seem to know more about the names involved than the average fan of a show.
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>>137400015
>always
He made one post.

>>137399604
I don't know why everyone thinks BnHA is some huge hit just waiting to happen. The biggest WSJ fighting adaptation recently was JoJo, and even that only hit 20k. Macross has at least as much selling potential as BnHA.
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>>137400256
I predict that BnHA will boost a lot the manga, probably AssClass level. The DVD/BD won't sell thought, just like popular shonen adaptation (AssClass, NNT, Magi, Arslan Senki...)
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>>137401058
>>137400256
I think it will also air on the popular anime slot on MBS (or TBS I'm not sure) on sunday at 5pm in Japan. Magi, Nanatsu no Taizai and Arslan Senki all aired in this timeslot and were extremely popular.
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>>137398809
Dat hair and costume
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>>137401309
It is
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For those who were curious about the show's episode length, it'll run for full two cours. I also had a strong feeling SnK's second season will air this autumn.
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>>137402571
>it'll run for full two cours
Has it been confirmed besides noitamina not announcing anything for Summer? If SnK S2 really air this year their productions are doomed.
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>>137403075
>Has it been confirmed besides noitamina not announcing anything for Summer?

Now that you mentioned it, since noitaminA didn't announce anything for summer, it further confirm it'll be 2-cour. And yes SnK 2 is scheduled for this year.
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>>137398809
/a/ will be fapping over the girls for the whole season and will be upset their favourite girl(dual wielder I expect) does not win even though it isn't a romance
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>>137400256
>I don't know why everyone thinks BnHA is some huge hit just waiting to happen.
I feel the same way about people who think Kabaneri is gonna be same especially when its getting very little buzz and everyone is saying the same thing about it in the West and in Japan; THIS LOOKS LIKE AN SNK RIPOFF. It makes sense to think BNHA will do well but there's nothing about Kabeneru that screams top seller.
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>>137399604
>It will be the blockbuster of next season,
I remember people said the same thing about Owari no Seraph a year ago. And look how that came about.
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>>137399004
>Pretty much guaranteed to be great design and animation
>WIT
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>>137399604
>It will be the blockbuster of next season
>original
>Literal who director
>Has been character designer
>WIT
>Looks like a blatant ripoff
>WIT

Not sure why people think. Unless they stuff every volume with an event ticket its pretty much guaranteed to flop.
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>>137404062
A ripoff of something that did extremely well vs. a genre that doesn't typically do very well.
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>>137404370
>Death Note
>SnK
>Guilty Crown
>literal who director
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>>137404621
>A ripoff of something that did extremely well
By your stupid as logic Black Bullet and God Eater should have done well.
>a genre that doesn't typically do very well.
>genre
Found the retard.
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>>137404370
Did you really just ask who Araki is?
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>>137404706
>Death Note
>SnK
Were both highly successful because their source of material was already popular retard. Remember Kurozuka? I suggest you shut up.
>Guilty Crown
Kek.
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>>137404716
I'm not saying this is obviously going to do well, I'm saying it makes sense to rate its potential higher than fucking BnHA.

>genre
Yes, battle shounen is a genre. And I'm also considering the WSJ part in its chances, but I didn't have an easy way to say that without using an awkward amount of words.
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>>137404121
Owari was still among the most popular anime of its airing seasons.
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>>137404795
Who is Araki?
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>>137404803
You're shifting the goalposts, he's done several highly successful shows, he's nowhere near a literal who. And GC sold like 9K, it's not some obscure shit in Japan even if it's nowhere near as big as it was on the Western internet.
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>>137404837
>Owari was still among the most popular anime of its airing seasons.

Must be nice being stupid.
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>>137404803
Source being popular doesn't mean the anime will be popular. A lot of people discovered Death Note, Hischool of the dead and SnK thanks to their anime.
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>>137404803
>Remember Kurozuka
The fact that you remember irrelevant shit he directed nine years ago is evidence itself that he's not a literal who. And on that note, remember Tytania? I guess that means Noboru Ishiguro is a literal who, as well.
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>>137404891
>You're shifting the goalposts
You're grasping for straws. Both DN and SnK would have done well if anyone was at helm, the gross incompetence of the adaptation of SnK is proof of that
>>137404944
>A lot of people discovered Death Note, Hischool of the dead and SnK thanks to their anime.
Wrong on all accounts dumbfuck, Snk was already a million seller before the anime and DN was beating fucking OP in sales before the anime.
>>137405000
>The fact that you remember irrelevant shit he directed nine years ago is evidence itself that he's not a literal who.
It wasn't 9 years ago retard. And it proves my point quite well, DN and SnK were successful because of their source of materials not Araki.
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>>137404841
See >>137404803
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>>137404944
>Source being popular doesn't mean the anime will be popular.
Found the retard
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>>137404920
>113k followers on twitter
>+200k manga boost
>Musical in production

Is there a new anime that aired at the same time and was more popular ? The answer is no.
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>>137405082
>You're grasping for straws. Both DN and SnK would have done well if anyone was at helm, the gross incompetence of the adaptation of SnK is proof of that
That's not actually the point. His name is known. That's what not being a literal who means. No one watches shows for Yamakan, either, but that doesn't make him a literal who.
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>>137405120
Yeah, that Tokyo Ghoul anime sure sold almost as much as SnK's, didn't it?
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>>137405000
Who is Noboru Ishiguro?
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>>137404830
>I'm saying it makes sense to rate its potential higher than fucking BnHA.
No it doesn't see this >>137404370
You are a dumbfuck of the highest caliber.

>Yes, battle shounen is a genre.
You keep digging yourself a hole

>>137404891
You're not listening, those shows were successful because the source of material was already popular retard which is why Araki isn't credited to their success.

>GC sold 9k
Cool horseshit bro. GC was poorly recieved and had a huge drop in sales after the first volume that was elevated by event ticket offers.
>>137405000
That's not his point at all. Araki directed Kurozuka but nobody fucking remembers it or cares about it. I wonder why?
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>>137405126
>Musical in production
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>>137405270
The guy who got cucked by Kawamori as the creator of Macross.
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>>137405315
So you're a literal who unless everything you direct is famous and well-liked on your name/directing alone?
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>>137405082
>Wrong on all accounts dumbfuck
Snk vol 1 after episode 1 : 1,122,864 volumes sold
Snk vol 1 latest known number : 2,842,653 volumes sold

More than 1.7 million persons started reading the manga thanks to the anime. Check your facts before posting.
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>>137405158
>His name is known.
Its not.
>>137405126
Are you actually using twitter followers as fucking merit? How about looking at it shit sales of the anime.
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>>137404803
Even entry level weebs know Araki you fucking newfag. The popularity explosion of Snk and DN anime cannot be understated.
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>>137405208
700k manga boost tho.
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>>137405369
Kawamori proposed the idea, and Ishiguro wasn't even part of Studio Nue. He has no claim to being the creator.
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>>137404830
>An adaptation of a highly successful and critically acclaimed manga vs. an original property by a literal who and a newbie studio who has not done many original works to begin with

But sure the latter will do much better.
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>>137405436
>Its not.
It is.
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>>137405436
>Judging the success on the anime on DVD/BD sales only.
How does it feel to live in the past? I bet you think Nanatsu no Taizai was a failure.
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>>137405471
>Even entry level weebs know Araki you fucking newfag
Cool bullshit
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>>137405507
>critically acclaimed
This is what shounenshitters actually believe. Here's a tip - the "critics" who acclaim your tripe are incompetents who no one with half a mind takes seriously.
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>>137405430
>Snk vol 1 after episode 1 : 1,122,864 volumes sold
>>137405082
>Snk was already a million seller before the anime

But sure, nobody knew what SnK was before the anime.
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>>137405390
Mo you're a literal who if all you do if piggyback on the success of the property instead of creating shit yourself. That's why nobody knows who the director of the Pokemon anime is.
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>>137405471
>Even entry level weebs know Araki you fucking newfag.
My entry level friend can't even name a single anime director. The only person in the industry newshits know is Butcher.
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>>137405627
Doesn't change the fact that a lot of people discovered SnK thanks to its anime. Being aware of something and being into it isn't the same thing. Go breath some fresh air you seem to need it senpai.
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>>137405527
>An anime success is judged solely on how it boosts sales of the source of material and NOT the success of the anime itself

I love this meme.
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>>137405568
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>>137405677
But people know who Araki is.

>>137405750
I refuse to believe there is someone who has watched an anime without knowing who Miyazaki is.
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>>137405527
>I bet you think Nanatsu no Taizai was a failure.
Well it sold over 6k and got great ratings so I guess its a bigger success than Owari no Seraph.
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>>137405774
>Doesn't change the fact that a lot of people discovered SnK thanks to its anime.
Doesn't change the fact that SnK was popular and successful before the anime so it had nothing to do with Araki also all that is just backlog. So you're still wtong in that regard.
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>>137405833
It's true, though. BnHA has the same "critical acclaim" that Urobuchi has, or that every Aniplex show gets in the magazines they pay off, or that whatever superhero movie comes out next will probably get. Not from people with actual critical abilities or taste, but from what are effectively random viewers who happen to be paid for their opinions.
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>>137405875
>But people know who Araki is.
Yes they know the mangaka who created Jojo is but they don't know the retard who directed Kurozuka is.
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>>137405943
This. If the reviewers are the same as the audience, then every popular piece of media ill be critically acclaimed, and their role becomes redundant.
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>>137405943
>>137406009

>They're not critics because I say so
Are you done kid?
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>>137406096
I don't know where you got that image, but go back there.
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>>137405943
>BnHA has the same "critical acclaim" that Urobuchi has, or that every Aniplex show gets in the magazines they pay off, or that whatever superhero movie comes out next will probably get.
Why is /tv/ posting here?
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>>137405798
>solely
Where did you get that? The popularity of an anime can be judged on different criteria : DVD/BD sale numbers, original material sale boost, ratings, ... you don't have to get all of them to be successful.
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>Araki is a well known director
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>>137406170
>The popularity of an anime can be judged on different criteria : DVD/BD sale numbers, original material sale boost, ratings, ...
I love this meme
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>>137406261
>I love this meme
I like this meme.
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>>137406222
Considering everyone ITT seems to know his name and shit he did last decade, I'd say he is.
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>>137406170
Why do people keep spouting this bullshit? Whether an anime boosts the sales of the source of material doesn't negate the fact that its a failure itself if the BD/DVDs sell like shit. People need to remember that there's several sponsors and companies involved in the anime's production and if the show fails to make bank then they get nothing out of it.
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>>137406352
>Considering everyone ITT seems to know his name and shit he did last decade
Source: Your ass
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>>137406358
Usually a lot of the sponsorship for shows like that comes from people with a vested interest in the manga, both the publisher and otherwise. Boosting the manga and selling merchandise serves certain interests more than selling disks. No idea how that plays out with Seraph specifically, though.
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>>137406587
>Usually a lot of the sponsorship for shows like that comes from people with a vested interest in the manga, both the publisher and otherwise.
Yeah like Warner Bros right? They're all about printed media.

>Boosting the manga and selling merchandise serves certain interests more than selling disks.

This is only true for the publisher, if the anime fails then no merchandise will be produced.
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>>137406358
It depends on who is in the production comittee. If the the original support get a boost the editor will be pleased. If the music sells a lot the company producing the music will be pleased. If the derivatives are popular the companies behind them will be pleased. Of course those product need to reach a certain level of success to balance the lack of DVD/BD sales, but poor DVD/BD sales doesn't mean that the anime bombed.
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>>137406587
The people making the anime still won't get any money from manga sales. Only BD sales and a percentage of merch sales.
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>>137406682
>but poor DVD/BD sales doesn't mean that the anime bombed.
Really /a/?
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>>137406708
You mean the studio? They're not the ones fronting most of the money.
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>>137406839
Forgot to add "necessarily".
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>>137406676
>if the anime fails then no merchandise will be produced
Just like there's no Doraemon merchandise? Or OP merchandise?
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Honestly looks pretty good.

The aesthetics and everything appeal to me more than SnK ever did.
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>>137407022
Both or those shows have great ratings and sales
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>>137407209
>Honestly looks pretty good.
How to spot a newfag
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>>137407627
Haters gonna hate :^)
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>>137407547
>OP
>great sales
Fifteen years ago, sure.
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>>137407627
Nah faggot, I'm not just jaded about anime. It's not the medium I mainly care about, so I can enjoy something like this easily and don't have to prove my epic /a/ cred by posting how everything ever will be shit.
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>>137407731
So you're delusional
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>>137399245
>Even Ai Kayano
Kek, Kayano has been getting more roles than Uchida, they debut in same year. Kayano is just so fastly become popular after Anohana.

Uchida has Pony canyon back up there so she will never have no role or lack of big project, Sumipe is just a recent rising because usual industry shift, seem like it will be her, Aoi Yuuki, Nao Touyama from midtier this year the industry tries to push, they suddenly get more lead roles
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>>137409173
>>137399245
>since about mid 2014
Forgot to add Uchida signed with Pony Canyon in 2014 so there, her seiyuu agency is also always prominent every year.
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>>137409173
>Uchida has Pony canyon back up there so she will never have no role or lack of big project,
Yeah look how much of a huge hit Rokka was.
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>>137409707
She wasn't in Rokka.
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>>137409707
Yes, so
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>>137409751
Didn't say she was but the notion that Pony Canyon means high profile is laughable
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>>137409873
No one said that Pony Canyon's every project was big. Pony Canyon pushing you means you will have big roles available.
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