>a-1
>not bones
This not gonna be good
I don't really mind. I wasn't impressed with DD's animation.
>A-1
Tis the mark of an impending miscarriage of a show. It's already a shit.
Still watch tho
>>137224779
At least is not DEEN. In before konosuba shitters, that show is literal korean garbage.
>2016
>Expecting an anime based on a video game to be good.
How many times are you going to get fooled by now?
>>137225299
I blame Gungrave.
Or people tolerating the Pokemon and Kirby anime to a degree.
Guess ill stop to hope then
>>137225406
People outside /vp/ like the Pokemon anime?
I mean sure everyone from the most boring normie to the mightiest wizard remembers the first seasons and above all the intro song but after that?
>>137225406
What's wrong with the Kirby anime? Sure it was episodic but still surprisingly entertaining. Dedede is easily the best character.
>>137225299
It's not just any random weeb game though, it's Ace Attorney.
The quality of the source material matters a lot.
A-1 is shit but at least ace attorney didn't even have some action scene. They just need to animated ppl pointing at each other and witness breakdown. A-1 better not fucked it up
>>137225648
Good source material is really, really easy to fuck up in any adaptation. It takes dedication and passion for an adaptation to be good. Something many people doubt A-1 would ever have for the series.
![[HorribleSubs] Norn9 - Norn+Nonet - 03 [720p].mkv_snapshot_06.01_[2016.01.30_06.27.12].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WwSyyi9.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Norn9 - Norn+Nonet - 03 [720p].mkv_snapshot_06.01_[2016.01.30_06.27.12].jpg")
>>137225299
>Persona
>PSO
>Overlord
>SAO
Video game anime has NEVER been good.
Why the hate on A-1?
They do pretty amazing things sometimes
>>137225936
This famo
>>137225936
They are hit or miss. For each hit (SAO) there is a miss (Grimgar).
Bones?
Bones?
Are you serious?
They always make quite-nice looking anime with direction and writing that ends up mediocre.
They're wasted potential: the studio.
>>137226047
This tbqh
A-1 > Bones
>>137226009
Then there's shows like shinsekai yori and erased that are just so damn well made that you wonder if it is even the same studio
>>137226009
I think you got those wrong
Also Shinsekai Yori
>>137225299
>what is Shingeki no Bahamut
>>137226093
A-1 is mostly freelancers.
>>137224726
Literally this
>>137225486
I think their target audience are not otaku but Japanese children.
Well, the Pikachu itself is equivalent of Micky Mouse in the US.
>>137226292
I'm aware of that but this was about people expecting anime about games to be good.
>>137226074
I'd say A-1 = Bones when it comes to adaptations. Bones can deliver character better but A-1 is less likely to botch the ending.
>>137226093
For me:
>Anohana
>Your Lie in April
>SSY
>Birdy
>Erased
And those five doesn't even have similar characteristic at all in their animation. Well, your point >>137226151 is proven, though.
I'm holding out hope because this is based off a good videogame.
Why is Kaji Yuki cast as Phoenix
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Is his in-game voice actor dead or something?
>>137226101
Gimgar a hit? Dont be deluded, the show is garbage even if the shitty circlejerk likes to shitpost to fill threads. It is also bombing in japan.
>>137226635
all the in-game voice actors are capcom staff
godot was voiced by hideki kamiya, i'm not joking
Ace Attorney is literally just talking and pointing, with 0.01% action
the only thing that matters is execution
>A-1
>good
what the fuck are you smoking? birdy is the only good A-1 show ever
>>137226725
Presentation isn't as important as execution but it definitely goes a long way regardless.
>>137225179
DEEN is way better than A-1
haven't you seen rozen maiden season 3?
>>137226737
Nice reading skills.
How did A-1 even get Phoenix Wright is what I want to know. Wasn't Capcom holding on to that series from anime studios like dear life?
>>137225648
>It's not just any random weeb game though, it's Ace Attorney.
tell that to persona 4
>>137225299
>what is Sengoku Basara
>>137225936
no
they outsource everything, they aren't even a real animation company. and everything they write an anime original ending, it's way worse than anything bones ever did
>>137226093
both are full of QUALITY
would have been better anime if done by a more competent studio
>>137226363
have you even seen blue exorcist or magi?
literally bones tier endings
>>137226677
I hadn't realized you were talking about popularity instead of quality.
To be honest I actually like Grimgar, the terribly slow pace makes it feel like it's not just an action show, and more like a reality show.
>>137226677
>>137226009
Don't expect people to take your opinion on Grimgar seriously when you imply that SAO is a good show
>>137226789
>persona 4
>not random weeb game
>>137226822
It's been confirmed the anime will cover the first two games, plus have original episodes. At least there's already an ending so they won't have to pull one out of their ass.
I wouldn't be surprised if they kept 1-4 as the season finale and had Edgeworth being a dick the entire show though.
>Original creator of Ace Attorney felt like the game has reached its natural conclusion at 3
>Capcom wanted more
>"Okay, I'll just make a new protag, Apollo Justice"
>Capcom: Yeah that's cool and all but throw in Phoenix in
>Phoenix shoehorned into almost every game
>Ace Attorney already at 6 games, and is still on Capcom Life Support
>Ace Attorney now has anime
I blame Capcom
![[HorribleSubs] Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.20_[2016.01.29_19.33.03].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XDrY7yd.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.20_[2016.01.29_19.33.03].jpg")
>>137225179
>conveniently forgetting about Rakugo
>>137227021
Is Dai Gyakuten Saiban still written by Takumi? It was leaps better than Duel Destinies and the music was ace.
>>137226942
SAO is better than Grimgar anyway
>>137227113
Anything is better than Grimgar in it's current state, that's not a big achievement.
>>137226754
What's the distinction between "presentation" and "execution" in anime? They just seem like different words for ultimately the same thing to me.
>>137227197
Admittedly they're somewhat synonymous depending on context but what I meant was visual presentation versus execution of the anime as an adaption - how everything is directed, handled and produced I suppose.
>>137227090
Yup. Takumi ditched the main series after 4 and is now writing DGS.
I think he still "supervises" the main series though.
>>137226047
I thought bones did the game cutscenes? Correct me if I'm wrong
Why are people comparing MMO crap to a Murder Mystery VN?
![[DŌMO] NINJA Slayer from ANIMATION - 25 [A6482F65].mkv_snapshot_10.40_[2015.10.08_23.51.16].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/obfQcgM.jpg "[DŌMO] NINJA Slayer from ANIMATION - 25 [A6482F65].mkv_snapshot_10.40_[2015.10.08_23.51.16].jpg")
>>137227801
Same studio.
>>137227801
We can expect PW to be roughly as good as Danganronpa.
>>137225648
>The quality of the source material matters a lot
It does, but at the same time the studio matters a lot too. See Umineko.
>>137226761
I did and except for the artstyle it had nothing going for it.
inb4 really shitty official subs that don't match the games' localization.
inb4 herkz saves the dayilu herkz
>>137227965
Umineko is meta garbage.
Are there going to be animeonlyfags in these threads? There can't possibly be someone who hasn't played Phoenix Wright by now, right?
>>137228112
I dunno but I worry that the threads will be full of /v/.
>>137228072
You're garbage, you filthy goat.
>>137228112
I'm willing to bet about half the thread will be anime only fags, I can't wait to see them flip shit when they call a parrot to the stand.
>>137228242
I'm looking forward to seeing them all get confused when everyone refers to them by their localized names.
>>137227817
doesn't matter
>>137226492
Plenty of good video games have shitty anime.
This series, however, has enough writing in each game to fill more than one page without being complete nonsense.
>>137228423
it has a manga it could take from as well
>>137226773
Sony owns A-1 and Sony Pictures will happily throw millions of dollars down a hole for potential profits that nobody else would go for.
>>137228034
>license holder doesn't bother to make sure the translator is familiar with the games
>only the lawyers get localized names matching the games
>witness names poorly translated and/or pulled out of ass
>>137228112
Don't know, but I still have to play Justice for All, since I heard that it was the worst of the first 3 games.
>>137228759
It's still good, as are the sequels.
To be honest I didn't even see a drop in quality anywhere, but maybe I'm just thick.
>>137224704
Daily reminder that the studio doesn't mean anything in today's freelance market. It means literally nothing until we get the staff.
>>137228759
It's a double-edged sword. It is the worst of the original trilogy, but it also has arguably one of the best case in the series.
Also Franziska.
>>137228759
AJ is pretty good in my opinion. The worst would be JFA outside of one case. I think it might be because it didn't keep up to par with how well the first game was and the music was overall inferior. Not to say I didn't like JFA, the entire series is fantastic.
>>137226635
>Kaji Yuki
WHAT!?
>>137226709
>godot was voiced by hideki kamiya
As expected of based coffee man of many blends.
>>137225299
>Visual novel
>Video game
How many times must i reiterate this? They are not the same shit.
>>137230739
Semantics. Under a strict definition, they technically are - that is, a video game is essentially defined as a video with interaction, which fits Visual Novels.
Furthermore AA has more involved gameplay mechanics than your typical VN, through presentation of evidence and your investigation scenes.
Lastly
>implying VN adaptions are any good either
>>137230739
PW has a failstate.
>>137228759
Justice For All is the worst in the series, it's only saved by its final case which has no right in being in such a mediocre game. 2-4 is fantastic.
>>137228034
Wanting a 4kids tier sub
Lol ok kid
>>137225486
>but after that?
After that, it became one of the best animes out there since 2015.
>>137228759
It has the best case in the whole fucking franchise. Go figure. The rest of the game is meh, but it's all worth in the end
>>137226789
To be fair P4s adaptation was hilarious both intentionally and unintentionally
>>137228034
I don't think herkz plays Ace Attorney, and even if he does he probably won't sub the show because of the studio (or because Funi)
>>137228612
So why is it okay to use the localised names while subbing this, but in most every other heavily series (Pokemon, YGO, etc.) it isn't? I'll admit the name puns are at least in the same vein as the original, but
>Eat your hamburgers Apollo
>>137226009
>For each hit (SAO) there is a miss (Grimgar)
Pretty sure it's the other way around.
>>137226709
They did cast bigger named VAs for the promos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyBfRwpXT3U
Anyone which studio does the anime part on this Phoenix Wright pachinko commercial?
I wonder how true to the actual source the anime will be.
Will they animate the games' main cases or will they just think of new ones? If the former, will they also do the cross examinations etc? Does anybody know this?
>>137228112
I never played one.
>>137233501
Because, setting aside, the Phoenix Wright localization is actually great. All the character names are perfect.
>>137233844
Why the fuck does this looks so good it's a fucking pachinko machine goddamn. I bet the anime's not even gonna look half as good as this either.
A-1 might be the wild card because holy shit they have a range of different shit depending on the director. Shinsekai Yori had like 6 different styles of animation in 25 episodes, absolutely crazy.
>>137228112
I didn't play it. I read it.
You don't fucking play visual novels, you read them, faggot.
>>137227005
>1-4
>the reason Edgeworth stops being a piece of shit and the reason 2-4 happens the way it does
>season finale
please no
>>137234137
It's a game, not a visual novel, you dense cunt. A visual novel does not need as much of an input from the player as Phoenix Wright does.
So best girl won't be in this adaptation?
>>137225406
The Kirby anime is legit good besides the seemingly random transitions between 2D and CG
>>137226709
And the English versions were just random Capcom USA employees
>>137234334
It's a visual novel since you spend more than 90% of your time reading and at best 10% of it doing superficial point and click shit.
A game needs way more of an input from the player than what Phoenix Wright has.
>>137226635
In-game voice actor of Phoenix Wright is Shu Takumi, creator of the game. They didn't have money for additional staff so creators of the game voiced characters themselves.
Hideki Kamiya voiced Godot simply because he is bros with Takumi and asked to be in the game.
>>137233844
This looks fucking great, are the scenes they're using taken from the anime, or were they specifically made for the pachinko machine? That'd be extremely disappointing if it was the latter.
>>137234954
>are the scenes they're using taken from the anime, or were they specifically made for the pachinko machine?
Who knows. It's weird that commercial mentions something about 26 episodes and the anime is also will be at least 2-cour.
>>137235062
So 1-4 will probably be the first cour finale and 2-4 the second cour finale.
I hope the anime original episodes are just the characters dicking around...maybe Edgeworth attending a Steel Samurai convention.
>>137234897
What about the Japanese VA for Dual Destinies?
>>137235323
There were rumors that they will be making filler cases. Persoanlly, I wouldn't mind if they skipped Turnabout Big Top and did completely original case.
But honestly, slice of life elements is the shit I am hyped about. I mean, I already know games, so.
>>137235480
>>137234639
nope
>>137235451
Turnabout Big Top had such a stupid explanation."The cape just happened to perfectly get snagged onto the bust in a way that would make it look like a figure and then it FLEW!"
Any moron that hasn't played the games yet and watches the anime instead is the biggest fucking faggot. It's guaranteed this isn't going to be close to how good the games are at all.
>>137235502
>>137235480
>>137235451
this is not hamburgers
>>137235812
But it has world-famous anime voice actor Kaji Yuki
>>137235827
Eat your ramen, Maya.
>>137235839
Aren't Bones doing really, really badly lately?
Last I heard they were in the red.
>>137224704
A-1's animation quality can range from great, like Boku Dake ga Inai Machi, to terrible, like that one otaku teacher anime, but their quality remains consistent throughout. What the product ends up being ultimately depends on the staff behind it, unlike studios like KyoAni which have a distinct style to their shows.
>>137235827
>>137235875
Why not both?
>>137235839
He'd be a cute lovestruck Feenie, but can he even sound older than 14?
>>137224704
>A-1
It could be a lot worse.
They're capable of making good adaptations at least.
>>137235729
I hope they change this for the anime
The cape explanation was so unbelievably stupid
>>137235729
>>137236160
Turnabout Big Top's problems don't end there. The cast is pretty bad as well.
>>137236196
I liked that Max was a country bumpkin turned hotshot, but the rest can go die in a fire.
>>137236196
I think the cast being annoying as fuck is charming in a masochistic way.
>>137236252
>>137236196
I liked Regina and how she had to face reality. The world wasn't as innocent as her father had led her to believe. She was great in AAI2 too.
>>137236325
>4kids version
>>137236325
where are the forks?
>>137225870
I'll give you the three first, but to be fair, I don't think SAO is very good.
I think Hai to Gensou no Grimgar is a way better take on being trapped in a video game.
There's a far greater difference between characters, and even though some characters are shitheads, they're still likeable.
>>137236110
>>137224704
Can't be worse than the movie
>>137236753
I still don't know how Gumshoe suddently became 10 years younger.
>>137236753
the movie was alright
>>137226417
If AA is half as colorful as Kimiuso it'll be alright.
It's a video game adaptation.
Of course it'll be shit.
Preview when?
>>137238519
I like this picture.
>>137238638
Save it, it's all yours, my friend.
>>137234639
If anything, Rise From The Ashes will probably be an OVA
>>137239236
or season 2
>>137225936
>Why the hate on A-1?
>They do pretty amazing things sometimes
It really depends on the staff
A-1 doesn't really have an identity
>>137236110
Now that's bizarre
>>137224704
It's like ten years too late for this to happen
>>137224704
Considering A-1 seems all the rage lately I'm skeptical it'll flop and be anything less than decently received. It's definitely going to be one of the more watched shows of the spring along with Knocking at the walls of the fortress.
>>137226773
Cause they're the number one choice for adaptations nowadays. They can hype market the shit out of just about anything, bring in all the trendy staff and personalities and did I mention they can hype market the shit out of anything? Who else are you going to go with?
>>137226677
The event ticket is helping the first volume a little (it very briefly hit the top 200 yesterday) but the effect seems like it's wearing off already. Seems like there's little saving this season's sales from just being dismal all around
>>137226822
It's not so much outsourcing as they have virtually zero retained staff outside of some producers and directors and even the directors seem kind of freelance. Even outfits like Sunrise still retain animators even if the core staff changes up a lot and the main retention is producers. It's how A-1 is able to mass produce shit so quickly, but it's kind of soulless and pure profit motive oriented.
>>137224704
>animated scene of Maya turning into Mia via Age progression and transformation
If you do anything else, PLEASE do this
>>137235451
>>137235480
>>137235502
Where is this from?
In Dual Destinies Maya wasn't present...
>>137227144
Hey man those songs are not gonna insert themselves
>>137233731
By money printing standards SAO is better than Grimgar
By quality Grimgar is shit like SAO for inverted reasons. Weaklings aren't fun to watch either.
>>137240786
It's fanart.
>>137236196
I like/tolerate the clown and Acro.
Everyone else can die in a fire.
>>137233501
The Japan -> America stuff is silly but the names are all just turning Japanese puns into English puns
>>137240770
>it only happens once and any other time it happens off screen
this is my prediction.
>>137225870
Ixion Saga was good
>>137241565
To be fair, it had almost nothing to do with the game it was based on
>>137225299
>what is Sword Art Online
>>137241628
>thinking SAO is a good anime
>>137240928
Why can't A-1 just do a show without extreme characterization and scenarios for a change is what I want to know. I mean I know this is anime but sometimes the choices are just fucked. For their action shows either you get Gary Stu the bulldozer that just pushes his way through all obstacles largely effortlessly or woe is me life is so hard look at all my dramas and angst weakling boy for protags.
>>137241628
>SAO
>Good
>Videogame original
Why you complain about Yuki Kaji? He's good seiyuu and voiced plenty likeable characters like Alibaba, Meliodas, Yokodera, Variation, Shuu (Nisekoi).
Just because he played whiny shits like Shuu (GC), doesn't make that Phoenix suddenly changes completely his personality.
I'm not a fan of series but from what I remember there is a lot of hammy dialogues, Kaji can pull of this for sure.
>>137242050
He's overused.
It's annoying to hear him everyday everywhere.
>>137242157
What? It's not 2013 anymore
