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Why is it that the only jets you see in most shows these days are either F-22s or F-35s?
Why not have some variety like superior Russian jets?
>Japan
>Russian jets
>>136334684
Because Turkey would take them down
>>136334684
Why Russian jets so sexy anyway? They made for fighting and bombing shits right?
>>136334701
The JASDF doesn't use F-22s though.
>>136334684
You're implying a jet can be attractive in the first place.
They can't. They're bland and faceless.
>>136334684
Are you retarded?
>>136334773
are you telling me that jasdf still uses Phantoms??
>>136334855
Yes
They use F-2s, F-15s and (soon) F-35s as well though
They are getting their military stuff from US.
>>136334763
cause sexy idols
>>136334684
>filename
>>136334891
i suppose if it has updated avionics it shouldnt really matter as long as it performs.
>>136334952
Funny you should mention that.
When the DPJ won the elections in '09, all the money set aside for modernizing the JASDF went poof.
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>>136334946AC7 SOON
>>136334773
So is GATE worth picking up? Or is it GRORIOUS NIPPON 24/7 like I heard some say.
I liked the idea of fantasy shits getting BTFO by military.
>>136334855
F22 is usa only. F35 is sort of the watered down version which multiple nations can use the cheap version of the already watered down f35
>>136335059
It's okay
Has lots of propaganda but it's not 100%, there's monstergirls in it too.
>>136334946
>>136335029
Animu never.
>>136335084
>>136335029
>>136334946
AC3 would be best AC animu. Discuss.
>>136334763
>Why Russian jets so sexy anyway?
because mr.Sukhoi has a boner, a boner for canards
>>136335059
>>136335059
>GRORIOUS NIPPON 24/7
What's wrong with this?
No one care when it's MERRICA 24/7 every movies ever
>>136334946
>>136335164
>Ace Combat gets an anime
>Fights are CGI
>No soundtrack from the games
Yes/No?
>>136334684
>Superior
If it means changing the engine for every 5000 hours, yes
>>136335315
But Assault Horizon will never be made into an animu.
>>136335071
I find all the "I got a gun, better go smack this guy who has a sword with the butt of my gun" parts extremely silly, especially when the guy he/she/whoever goes to hit is like 30 feet away
the show also assumes that the guy they go bayonet have never seen a spear before and thusly have no idea how to deal with the situation
>>136334855
The US even had a particularly hard time retiring them from service because they are such a good plane.
>>136334684
>superior Russian jets
>>136335315
>New Kobayashi tracks
Yes
>>136335315
>No soundtrack from the games
No. It needs to have at least one track directly from the games.
>>136335334
AH was a mistake.
>>136335164
But Yukikaze already exists
Thread relevant gif
>>136334684
or F-14
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>>136334684
But there a whole anime about them like right now
>>136334684
>variety
Because S1never
>>136335489
>No CUM HISTORIA
Dropped
>>136334684
>superior
>russian
>jet
You can't have something that doesn't exist
>>136334773
In th especific setting you are linking, yes, because they send second-rate, outdated materiel to a place where it is WAY more than enough to do its job, while keeping the brand new shinny stuff for local use.
>>136334684
Russian jets are fucking shit.
>>136335315
>>Fights are CGI
>>No soundtrack from the games
>>136335364
Is that the new Macross?
>Russian jets
>Superior
Kek-35 and russia stronk meme aside they are horribly outgunned against F-22s. Seriously,even F-16s can down modern/6th gen Russian jets.
>>136335343
What's good about it?
>>136335630
>6th gen
What?
>>136335610
Yeah
>>136335337
>assumes that the guy they go bayonet have never seen a spear before
Fun historical fact: in real world warfare, the guys with swords had a well-documented tendence to fucking understimate the bayonet, believing it "a poormans' spear" and tended to fight against bayonets as if they were spears (while truth is, bayonet and spear fighting have several key differences - spear is better at long range, bayonet is much better than spear at short range; sword guys used to close range as they do with spears and get predictably asskicked). Late XIX - early XX century warfare proved them wrong. Those guys making the same mistake makes actually sense.
>>136335630
>Muh raptor
Everytime
>>136335630
Russia didn't focus on air superiority as much as the US did. They decided that rather than fight fire with fire, they'd just hard counter.
Most of their effort went into anti-air, and now they've got radar jammers and SAMs that really worry the Pentagon.
You don't need the best plane when you can blind the other guy.
>>136335437
>mfw playing War Thunder blasting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80XAJKqRU9k in the background
I don't care if it's been nerfed to hell and that Doras, Spits and Typhoons are infinitely superior, I still love my F8F.
>>136335315
They better make Mobius 1 into a cute girl or a fuckable trap.
>>136335737
That's pretty clever, but then russian planes are actually shit?
Or is it just small differences that wouldn't actually matter in a real situation? I mean no one is actually dogfighting today as far as I know
>>136335630
>F-16s can down modern/6th gen Russian jets.
>/pol/ tard
>muh murrica
>>136335864
Our planes aren't bad, they just not as good as American ones. I personally hope that we'll never get to find out which plane would win in actual fight.
>>136335990
Putin-sama won't let it get that serious. If it happens we'd all be fucked anyway, better move to antarctica or so.
>>136335864
It's a lockheed shill meme, no body knows How shits gonna turn out in real life situations.
>>136336041
>antarctica
But anon, what if the arctics got nuked?
>>136334763
No "Steath tm" technology allows them to use more aerodynamics forms which are naturally sexy and beautiful
>>136335864
I believe US jets have better electronics, but Russian jets are typically much more maneuverable.
>>136336209
Unlikely, no gain for anyone. It would fuck up the world pretty badly though, would be my taget as a supervillain.
>slavshit
>superior
Fuck off, Ivan.
>>136335989
To be honest, a F-16 can down basically anything.Doing it with ease or with a positike kill:lose ratio is a completly different thing, of course.
>>136335818
>posted from my seal clubbing Spacecat
>>136336390
To be honest, all it needs is a sensor upgrade that would let it track stealth planes better.
>>136335630
>F-22
>outgunning anything
>>136335230
Canards are actually a fairly recent (well, recent in aircraft developement cycle sense) thing in sukhois.
First seen in the Su-27M prototypes in 1988, canards have only been applied to Su-30MKI, Su-30SM and Su-34 from the current production aircraft roster.
And Pavel Sukhoi died in 1975 so he didn't really have much to do with the canards on current Sukhois.
>>136336515
And Su-33 which I conveniently forgot.
>>136335864
I just graduated from Moscow University of Aviation so I can say they are like Apple vs Android. Russian planes do have certain problems, in the same time they have certain superiorities.
Having only low technology and materials people had co come up with great engineering solutions and features such as omnidirectional thrust vectoring which allows absolutely unmatched maneuvrability. Amerifat specialists are paid so high so american economy won't handle paying them to actually think. That's why f-35 is shit but costed more than entire NASA budget of all time.
However Russians have no idea how to make planes ecology friendly (or maybe just don't care), they are not so fuel efficient, and they are more expensive to repair and support in the lonl run because they are lowtech pushed to the maximum. Also no stealth technology gimmick, as if anyone needed it anyway.
The biggest problem ith them really is that getting new SUs seems like a good deal, but in the long run they will require a lot of service and repairs and they will soom become moe expensive than eurofighters and F-16s because of lowtech materials.
>>136336390
F-16 not designed to fight su-37 for example
>>136336660
Su-37 was a one-off tech demo in a line of prototypes. And it's dead now.
>>136336660
The f-16 is pretty solid in both long and short range combat, there's no Russian plane it can't fight.
>>136336721
su-35 is production model I guess
>>136336446
>Can't touch WEP or the engine and oil overheats instantly
>Can't even leave it on 100% power or the planes goes nuclear regardless
>Can't even leave it on 90% withit your plane burning itself from the inside out
It is of secret soviet dokument set to military engine configuration, torvarisch)))) xaxaxa
>>136334684
>Why not have some variety like superior Russian jets?
The YF-24 derived VFs in Macross all have clear Sukhoi influences.
Hell, the VF-25 is pretty much a SU-27 with variable sweep wings like the F-14 and thrust-vectoring.
>>136336721
Su-35 is a thing though
>>136336803
>can't into MEC
>>136334684
asking for russian jets not iranian?
>pleb
>>136336843
That is some mighty polished wood
>>136336758
Su-27 strong. It's not Mig-29
>>136336768
Su-35S is based on the T10BM line of prototypes from when the project was resurrected around 2007. Su-37 was a one-off on the T10M (Su-27M) project. They only share the basic airframe similarities with Su-35S missing the canards and for some reason the airbrake.
>>136334777
You're bland and faceless.
>>136334777
I'll fight you
>>136336758
bullshit, while f-16 can actually lock on any modern plane and launch the AA missile it works same for russian planes, excepth they have superior maneuvrability, speed, and avionics, as well as superior AA missiles i'd bet on a russian plane.
>>136334777
>>136336823
MEC can't help it not rip its wings if you touch elevators when it goes over 750 km/h when doras can comfortably pull 12gs on a 850 km/h dive. But I mean, I could just close off the compressor and lose a bunch of power so the insides of my plane doesn't become a mini-Auschwitz oven, or I can just roll in a Griffon spit and destroy everything.
>>136336881
in all honesty even if it was wood it wouldn't matter, as long as it provided enough structural stability. No modern fighter uses any kind of gun any more, and it doesn't matter what your plane's made of if a missile hits it, it's toast.
>>136335864
>in a real situation
I'd say that would involve burgers throwing a gajillion missiles and drones until the other side runs out of SAM and the runways are filled with craters. Nobody can match 700 bases and their logistics.
Also I heard that our Russian planes are more troublesome such as the Flankers needing air conditioned bunker all year and the AF prefers their Hornets. Still none crashed so far in 8 years, wonder how India managed to crash theirs on almost monthly basis.
>>136336979
You have no idea what forces the planes are dealind with.
When you go supersonic you can imagine air becoming solid and hot as molten lead and you will have to cut through it.
>>136336979
A wooden plane flying at the speeds fightplanes fly? I'm afraid it would get ripped trying to take off or catch fire from starting up.
>>136336916
>superior AA missiles
Oh please, the widely used Russian long range AA missiles have always been shit.
>>136337139
Source?
OHAYO
>>136337159
>In the 1999 Eritrean-Ethiopian War, Eritrean MiG-29s fought Ethiopian Su-27s both piloted by Russian mercenaries.[6] There were possibly as many as 24 R-27s fired by both sides. Only one R-27 fired by an Ethiopian Su-27 at an Eritrean MiG-29 proximity-fuzed near enough the MiG that the damaged aircraft eventually crashed on landing, giving the R-27 a hit ratio of only 4%
Just look at this amazing combat record.
>>136337182
Fuck off F-35, you're one of the worst planes ever designed and worst girl too.
>>136336358
Not really. Drakens were doing cobras half a century ago. And F-18 is just as agile as any Sukhoi.
Besides, agility matters shit in modern combat. Actually, it mattered shit in late WW2 already. Zeros were far more agile than planes they fought with and that sure helped them.
Russian planes are junk. Only poor shitholes banned from buying western weapons buy them.
Jetfags, please try to talk about anime featuring your favorite jets (and perhaps also post nice-looking images, gifs and webm), or take this kind of discussion somewhere else.
>they don't know about the new grorious nippon plane that would shit all over F-35
>>136337245
>piloted by Russian mercenaries
ayyy
>>136336573
Stop Ivan.
Thrust vectoring is literally useless in combat. The first thing Raptor pilots learned is to never use it in combat. It only makes you waste speed and with modern missiles and their 360 offboresight that's certain death.
And stealth is such a gimmick that Russians and Chinese are doing everything they could to get their own stealth plane.
>>136337245
if it was 1999 then the missiles must have been from 80s.
At that time Russia wasn't making anything at all still suffering economical disaters after USSR fallen apart. Sine then then industry has been restarted.
>>136336926
Cute garu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja_kvsngEFI
>>136337287
what does matter then, Bill?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igzjX1IKULw
>2:05
>>136337618
radar > missiles > RCS > avionics > climb > sustained speed > top speed > turn rate
>>136337682
BUT MUH SUPERMANEUVERABILITY
>>136337287
>Zeros were far more agile than planes they fought with and that sure helped them.
pure shitposting
Did I hear airplanes?
>>136337747
Pure autism. Planes with better climb and speed always fuck planes with better turn rate.
>>136337806
phantoms vs fishbeds
>>136337747
Zeroes were getting their shit handed to them during the later half of the war. Speed and energy retention was the name of the game and even Japan realised this by then.
>>136337747
>>136337806
When Zeros were new they were the best planes to fly, but by the end of war they became outclassed.
>>136337287
>What is energy fighting
>What is BnZ
This is why the F6F wrecked the A6M's shit: It climbed faster and dived quicker, even if it can't roll or turn as quickly.
Since most modern jets have a thrust to weight of over 1 already, energy fighting doesn't matter nearly as much, since you can climb at 90 degrees, and your jet would still never stall. What mattered more is maneuverability, so you can outturn the nose of an enemy fighter to prevent a missile lock, or to roll and turn well enough to dodge a missile.
>>136337865
Funnily enough, these Russian planes everyone is praising were outclassed the day they entered service.
>>136337865
Even by the end of the war they were the best dog-fighters. The thing is even back then dog-fighting was already dead.
Russians putting so much effort into making jet dog-fighters is simply laughable.
>>136337913
>still trying hard
>>136337898
>so you can outturn the nose of an enemy fighter to prevent a missile lock
Stop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YMSfg26YSQ
And this presentation is 15 years old. Fucking 15 years.
>>136337957
He's right though.
>>136334684
Anybody remembers Stratos 4? They used only British and Russian planes there.
>>136337898
Your thrust to weight ratio will not be over one with a combat load. Good luck trying to escape a faster moving opponent by climbing.
>so you can outturn the nose of an enemy fighter to prevent a missile lock
You'll have to be pretty fucking close to their nose to do that. Like, basically hugging it.
>>136337976
HARM can fuck them from 150km away. Russian AA is dangerous, but AA is always at disadvantage vs a competent air force.
>>136337747
Glorious super maneuverable zero went 1:13 vs inferior straight line only American garbage truck F6F.
>>136337898
>most modern jets have a thrust to weight of over 1 already
With 50% fuel and clean configuration.
>dogfight experts from /vg/
everytime
>>136337938
>simply laughable
They can't make planes go much faster yet because they lost their industry and don't have up to date materials and technology. Right now they can only use old alloys and don't even have blisk.
USSR was giving workplaces to adopted shitholes that then left and took the facilities with them. And then there was insane Eltzin and default and other shit.
Most of those tu-160s were bought back from the Ukraine, the rest that wasn't bought became picrelated.
Ukraine strong.
>>136337182
>korean manhwa
>ohayo
>>136337898
This is the dumbest post in this entire thread.
>>136338151
And it's only going to get worse.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/
>>136338060
New jets was superior in everything not just speed. Their armour and survivability was ridiculous. And most japanese aces were already died. Still Zero was dangerous in good hands
>>136338151
>that pic
The thread is not about /a/ anymore.
>>>/trash/
>>136338115
Meanwhile tons of people butthurt about Gate anime propaganda. Double standards
>>136335059
7/10, its got a shit load of eye rolling moments but that doesnt detract from it being fun. it knows when its stupid most of the time and i forgive it whenever an Apache rains lead upon completely helpless barbarians.
Jets lol
>>136335733
>>136336476
Still the best fighter plane in the world,anon
>>136336660
New retrofitted models can take SU-37 on anon
>>136338326
How to spot an american.
>>136338194
Meh, it won't be THAT bad this time. What's going on right now is just a little annoyance compared to complete disaster.
>>136338207
>no conversation development allowed
Fuck off.
>>136338326
>F-22
>outgunning anything
>>136338316
>Implying tunguskas weapons have big enough ceiling to hit modern western planes.
Maybe you could kill A-10 with it,well anything can kill A-10 these days
>>136338353
>>136338368
Not american anon but tell one plane that could challenge F-22
I bet you cant
>>136338448
>F-22
>outgunning anything
This is still better then an F-35.
>>136338423
>>136338476
>Unable to come up with reasonable arguments
When are you going to say "I baited you trolololo"
>>136337976
Post moar
>>136338412
It's probably Wargame
>>136338476
Me262 outguns modern jets. I guess it's better.
what on earth ever happened to Japan's military otaku? when did they get so shit? they used to be great now it's all /k/ tier wank shit and none of the genuine heartfelt interest in military equipment and hardware.
I still see an F-22 being shot down by a Gen4 SU-35
>>136338513
Season 2 never
>>136337898
>Not mentioning the fact that the Zeros have a flaw in their engine that the americans exploited
Nigga, they got themselves a Zero and took apart that shit before they even figured how to fight them.
There's a flaw in the engine that causes insufficient fuel to be pumped into the engine when the plane banks to the right, which stalls the engine. They later exploited that by telling their pilots, when caught with a Zero on their ass, to bank hard to the right.
They had to fucking get their hands on a fucking Zero to figure out that trying to dogfight a plane made to dogfight in a their heavier planes that can't turn as quickly is a bad idea.
>>136338564
F-22 detects them at 200km and can fire missiles at 100km.
Su-35 detects F-22 at 50km and can fire missiles at 20km.
Good luck.
>being tankist
>literally meat
>being AA operator
>first priority target
Being pilot is pretty cool. Rockets are never hit cabin. Only captivity is dangerous
>>136338548
Military anime and manga are dead.
>no manga about jet war/jet race
>>136338635
>THIS ONE ENGINE FLAW IS WHAT MADE AMERICA WIN AGAINST ZEROES
Ok.
>>136338635
That feel when it was a crash one they for in like Alaska.
>>136338515
No more webm to post. Have this sub webm
>>136338655
You aren't realistically going to hit a fighter with an AMRAAM from 100km.
>>136338655
Link me them radar range numbers.
>>136338564
>>136338514
>I still see an F-22 being shot down by a Gen4 SU-35
While this being possible, why even risk when F-22 can't go where S400 doesn't want it to?
If s-400 doesn't want it to fly the plane isn't going to fly.
>>136338721
I feel like playing DEFCON again.
>>136338754
Next year's s500 is going to have 600km coverage while f-22 has 700km range.
>>136334777
>They can't. They're bland and faceless.
m8...
>>136338151
there's no point in making a jet fighter that much faster, because it costs a lot and you don't get much benefit. Dogfighting takes place around mach 1 for accurate weapons discharge, and they need some speed for intercepting. Provided your surveillence is half decent, there's no point pouring money into a really tricky design to get you no actual benefit. It's not "they can't make planes go faster", it is "they won't bother"
>>136338655
It is still unknown what's F-22 RCS. I doubt that it's 0,0001 m^2.
>>136338852
>f-22 has 700km range.
So two f-22 can wipeout entry planet? STRONG
>>136338921
>>136338852
>700km
Jet
>600km
Ground
The fuck?
>>136338707
>Throwing planes that can't turn as quickly into a dogfight against planes that have already proven themselves to be capable dogfighting planes
Nigga, it's not just the engine flaw.
It says a lot about them if they continued to throw planes into dogfights when their planes don't excel at that shit and the enemy's planes does.
>>136338921
>So two f-22 can wipeout entry planet? STRONG
>entry
>>136338921
you underastimate the size of the planet. I believe you're off by like a thousand times
>>136338982
>>600km
>Ground
>The fuck?
the thing is that the rocket has half fuel half oxydizer in either solid or liquid state (actually solid) while the jet is full of fuel alone and takes oxygen from the air,
>>136338754
>>136338852
You fags do know that they are only effective against slow, large transport planes at those ranges right? And those planes must be flying really high.
>>136338852
760km combat radius and 3000km range. Without refueling.
>>136339001
>the earth has a circumference of 700,000km
Oh boy.
>>136339034
That's a nice diagram anon, I appreciate the effort you put into this
>>136339001
>shoot rockets
>reload
>move
>repeat
>>136339034
don't worry, long wawelenght radars look over the curvature of the planet, it's called difraction
>>136339034
I hope that's nautical miles and not nanometers
>>136339079
onw way without weapons and with external tanks at low speed.
>>136339088
Use fucking google you retarded russian monkey.
I bet you don't even know radar horizon existed because TV never told you.
>>136339116
Do you idiot even know how radar lock works?
The best existing russian ground radars can't even lock a 0.001 RCS target until 30-40km.
When HARM has a range of 150km.
>>136339137
>using both ft and nano"meter" in the same figure
Well?
>>136339213
>radar horizon
would murricans use nano feet?
>>136339033
>(actually solid)
Also im not taking about just fuel. Im taking about the missile range. Cause the missile is more likely solid fuel and not liquid. Also a larger ground based missile can have more fuel and the launcher can have a bigger radar unlike a jet with it jammed into the nose cone.
>>136339162
>/pol/tard mad and rude
I bet you don't even know what is picrelated because TV never told you :^
>>136339243
microinches are unfortunately a thing, and that doesn't seem much more braindead
>>136339212
They are designed to shoot down surface-hugging cruise missiles. it's their main feature.
>>136339269
This is getting pathetic.
>>136339034
>30ft
What is it a sail boat?
>>136339286
Main feature that was never even tested in combat.
>>136339248
what is Tsiolkovsky law?
There's a point where more fuel don't give you anything. And it depends on specific inpulse and air breathing engines have specific impulse A LOT more than that of rocket engine.
That's why cruise missiles do actually use small turbojets instead of simple solid state.
>>136339308
>calling some one retarded russian monkey
>trying acting cool
>>136339361
Did it break in half?
What is this from, anyway?
>>136339362
>cruise missiles
Im not talking about a ICMB platform. Im talking about a ground to air interceptor system.
>>136339494
Only a russkie would design a retarded cockpit like that, so there you go.
>>136339496
I got it, i mentioned them for an example.
Srface AA have rocket engines which by definition can't go as far as plane engines do due to having to carry oxydizer.
>>136339494
>first result in google
Hi Ho /k/
Can jet fuel melt steel beams??
Cause you all look professional at jet fuel.
Regards
>>136339543
>Su-34
>>136339608
it can actually het steel up to temperatures at which it gets softer.
Also standard material become chewing-gum-like if stressed while hot, they still are solid but they beging to creep
>>136338754
You do know that beyond 200km it's only effective against not maneuvering subsonic targets right?
And that while L-band can detect stealth planes at reasonable ranges you won't get a lock until less than 40km right?
>>136339608
You don't even need jet fuel to melt steel beams.
>>136339494
I need to read this.
>>136339608
How will this one perform on a new twin tower?
>>136339883
Shit. Forgot link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMcMoM9wMA
>>136339911
>911
Also semi truck straps.
Slav engines a shit,
SHIT
>>136337349
>Yukikaze with 1500Yen budget
>>136340236
We don't even keep F-18 engine parts in stock and have to cannibalise parts from other more broken aircraft to keep them running.
>>136334773
>>136334684
Because F-22s are fucking cool.
>>136334773
Uses F-4s But helped make the F-16 in a joint project. And doesn't use it. And there is also the whole copy right thing the F-4 is over 40 years old.
>>136339361
I can just imagine the crew.
NYET
CYKA BLYAT
SUKA
SUKA
SUKA
>>136340800
Damit Ivan!
>>136339361
aw shit
>>136340780
They do use their own variant of it, though.
>>136340780
Doesn't Japan produce their own variant of the F-16 as the domestic F-2? I recall it's considered inferior to the standard F-16s, but is well suited for its particular roles in Japan.
>>136341118
In IRL yes i was talking about in Gate.
>>136335315
<<No>>
>>136338448
10 f35seconds and 8 f16s
Because that's how many other jets you can afford for the overpriced f22
>>136341339
Fuck off, the f35 isn't even that much cheaper than the f22.
>>136341339
Not building the F-14 Super Tomcat again that works. Unlike the F-35 money pit there trying to push.
>>136339137
underrated post
>>136339608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA
>>136341139
It's better than standard F-16. It was the first operational AESA equipped plane on the planet.
>>136334684
>superior Russian jets
Oh, yes please Japan
>>136341622
The CFA-44 was only god tier in Ace Combat 6. Was complete shit in Assault Horizon.
>>136339248
F22 don't use just their own radar. That's why they are miles ahead of everything else in the air. Their radar can sync with other shit to guide their missles.
>>136334684
Because it's a qt3.14 plane
Is it time?
>>136341733
So what they use magnets to find or aircraft over a open fucking desert. With no ground site or AWAC in the AO. There is such things as not having a support aircraft in the AO on a mission.
>>136341864
The Su-47 is real.
The F-15s was built as a prototype but never mass produced.
Aurora is concept.
>>136341733
>he actually believes F22 is the only plane that can do that
>he actually believes that trick wasn't invented in fucking Vietnam
>>136341864
No, let's not be fucking gay. Play a proper game if you're going to play one.
>>136341864
Can anything best the f22 in game?
>>136342106
What game has the most realistic aerodynamics
>>136335059
There's like one GLORIOUS NIPPON episode where foreign countries try to get a hold of them back in japan but they get BTFO by Rory.
>>136342062
He to much of a F-22 fan boy.
>>136342149
Yes you can take out a F-22 with a F-14 or F-15 in Ace Combat. Hell even a Su-35 can.
>>136335291
Thats because america is a strong country, japan is just a puny ass shithole, its bloody delusional and honestly pathetic.
>>136342106
>doesn't even have the YF-23
Whats the point senpai?
>>136342256
Why? That's not very accurate in real life
>>136342149
DCS's PFM planes aren't bad at all. Rise of Flight was pretty solid too, if memory serves.
>>136342369
>Number built 2
>>136342404
It was in 90s, we were too busy killing each other for money, and then they came up with better stuff like those 35s and started working on t50
>>136341864
Never figured that Fenrir was that fucking huge.
>>136342370
You can also carry 50 missiles and warfare is entirely sub-700m dogfighting.
It's not supposed to be a realistic game, it's supposed to make you feel like you're in Top Gun.
are there any shows where cute girls train to be pilots and they go into that g-force testing centrifuge thing and pass out?
>>136342562
Nope.
![[Ohys-Raws] Heavy Object - 13 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_12.22_[2016.01.08_21.24.54].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EY0Za2C.jpg "[Ohys-Raws] Heavy Object - 13 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_12.22_[2016.01.08_21.24.54].jpg")
Heavy Object has Europride.
>>136337976
>howtodownaplaneandgetawaywithit.gif
