Rank the following three essential elements in terms of importance in anime to you
-Plot
-Characters
-Animation
characters
animaton
plot
plot doesnt matter at all; see the Slice of Life genre
>>136315170
- Characters
- Animation
- Plot
Any other answer is wrong.
>>136315170
>Plot
>Animation
>Characters
Although all 3 are important, shitty characters will ruin an otherwise outstanding show
If all 3 are just average I would prioritize quality in plot the most as it is what drives the story, and characters the least because in anime even the good characters are always shitty
Characters
Plot
Animation
If something is exceptional in any of the 3 though it's worth watching
As long as you have lovable and memorable characters your plot and animation could be dogshit and people will still remember it.
>>136315170
Characters > Animation > Plot
>Characters
>Plot
>Animation
Animation should be completely irrelevant and a series with a terrible plot can be entertaining through its characters (see most battle Shounen).
>>136315361
This, some of the most beloved shows of all time had very barebones plots, but were memorable because of their characters
>>136315195
>>136315224
>>136315293
>>136315375
>animation anything but dead last
>>136315361
This.
characters = plot = animation
Characters > Plot >>> Animation
>>136315461
For something that has a lot of action, animation is definitely more important than plot.
When I started watching anime I was stupid and ordered it Plot>Characters>Animation
But now I know better and order it like this
Characters>Animation>Plot
>>136315399
>Animation should be completely irrelevant
>>136315548
That might be true but even in that case, characters are the most important because otherwise you're just delivering action for action's sake like a Michael Bay movie
Animation
Characters
Plot
Animation being the most important. If it's not japanese moeshit, then I'm not watching it. Go watch Avatar or read a book if you put this last. Characters a second because shitty characters will ruin a good plot/animation.
>>136315750
I think completely irrelevant is wrong but I think anime should be focused on making you actually care about what you're watching first, mainly making you want to actually watch its characters. Which is why I'd put it last.
>>136315756
>If it's not japanese moeshit, then I'm not watching it.
Get out
>>136315803
I'm not saying stuff like k-on is good, i'm saying stuff like ping pong just doesn't have the art-style for me to be worth watching. It's like choosing between watching evangelion or aku no hana. Can't get attached to an abomination.
>>136316374
neck yourself
It's funny that you guys must say that because OPM had only animation and turned out to be bad.
A nice plot can be somewhat entertaining but bad/insufferable characters might ruin it (see the autistic Eva cast)
Good characters will always bring more interest no matter the rest, and it's perhaps the reason people like SHAFT that much.
Characters > Plot > Animation
You should have included "visuals", as in "drawings".
Characters
Plot
Animation
>>136316614
Eva was carried by its great characters though.
>>136316374
ping pong's art style is fantastic though.
>>136315170
evangelion has a muddled plot and the animation definitely hits some hitches. yet despite this, the character writing carries it past those flaws and it remains relevant 20 years later.
Animation
Plot
Characters
I'm not even sure what "good characters" means anyway. A story can have bland characters and be spectacular.
>>136316734
The characters are what carry the story.
If the characters are bland, then the story is going to automatically suck.
>>136316614
just because you don't personally like what the characters are like doesnt mean they're "bad"
>>136315170
Depends on the genre but characters should always be first.
>>136316614
I don't understand how anyone can say any character from any SHAFT anime is better than Eva's characters and not want to kill yourself.
>>136315170
Animation
Plot/Characters
Sakuga > All
>>136316614
>>A nice plot can be somewhat entertaining but bad/insufferable characters might ruin it (see the autistic Eva cast)
Nigga, Eva is incredibly well remembered for its characters.
>>136316734
>A story can have bland characters and be spectacular.
Literally name three
>>136316982
>Sakuga > All
Considering the large majority of anime doesn't have sakuga I'd say this is an incredible misnomer
>>136317142
Because they are a bunch of crazy and unlikable faggots, not because they are lovable.
>>136316614
OPM was mediocre as fuck
- Characters
- Plot
- Animation
It depends on the genre. If I'm just watching fight-porn like One Punch Man, it's...
>Animation
>Characters
>Plot
...because duh. If I'm watching fight-porn, I want me some fight-porn that looks great and has interesting characters.
If I'm watching a more dramatic show, it's going to be
>Characters
>Plot
>Animation
or
>Plot
>Characters
>Animation
...which depends on whether the focus of the plot is on the core characters themselves (i.e. Cowboy Bebop) or is focused more on world-building with the characters involved (i.e. Kara no Kyoukai).
Then of course, if I'm watching a comedy, it's
>Characters
>Animation
>Plot
...because the characters drive the comedy (so they have to memorable) and the animation drives the jokes (so it has to be spot-on for the visual gags), leaving the plot by the wayside.
Your post is stupid, OP.
>>136317207
Except they are lovable you retard. They're still popular 20 years later because people love them.
>>136317323
Not who you're quoting, but... People identify with them. They're not lovable, really.
Shinji is so fucking useless and whiny it's painful, with the bulk of his usefulness only coming through during equal or greater amounts of angst.
Asuka is a raging bitch, even if it's for what turn out to be very good reasons.
Misato is a alcoholic on a revenge kick willing to sacrifice children for said revenge.
Ritsuko is psychotic in her devotion to Project Eva.
Gendo... 'nuff said.
They're interesting characters in the same way Flay was interesting in Gundam SEED, but "lovable" they fucking are not.
You can't really approach anime as a whole with one mindset in regards to the importance of these three because if you're watching something like a slice of life show obviously characters are going to take precedence over plot, action shows will put a heavy emphasis on animation, experimental or artsy stuff will have little to no character or plot whatsoever etc.
>>136317271
This goes for me as well, although I am willing to forgive instances where the animation is superior to characters and the plot.
>>136317207
Lovable doesn't always mean like in an actual loving way, just that you remember them as actual characters
>>136317186
Dennou coil
My neighbour totoro
Galactic Railroad
Moomin
Conan, boy from the future
>>136316734
>>136316982
>>136315756
My niggas. I'd read a book if animation wasn't the most important. It's a visual medium. Saying characters/plot is like saying the lyrics are the most important part of a song, or the script is the most important part of a movie.
>>136317527
>but "lovable" they fucking are not.
Many people would disagree with you.
>>136317837
Many people are as emotionally crippled as the sad excuses for humanity which populate the cast of Evangelion.
Arguably the most lovable cast-member is Misato, and let's not forget she was straight-up willing to let the kids die in her pursuit of revenge against the Angels.
She learned a lesson from the experience, yes, and also during the Shinji = Soup experience, but she's still so fucking emotionally broken that she feels full-mouth kissing her adoptive son and promising more afterwards is appropriate right before she dies.
Shit gets darker for every character from there.
They are interesting characters. They are engaging characters. They are not "lovable".
>>136318346
Shinji isn't.
The rest are.
>>136317677
>I've never read a script before so here's a comparison to what I think it is
A good plot means the characters are also good.
>>136318346
>They are not "lovable".
It's okay to have that opinion, but you're in the minority.
>>136318465
Not necessarily, but entertaining/interesting characters are required to make people care about a plot.
If the characters are as flat and dry as a mummy's tits, no one is going to care.
>>136315170
You are missing The Fourth Element
-Music
>>136318346
not her adoptive son, but adoptive little brother. Tongue kissing him and promising intercourse was fine then
>>136318402
>Shinji
>NOT emotionally crippled
Mate, I think you may be confusing Shinji with someone else.
>>136318800
True. OP, next time you shitpost don't forget OST. Clannad fucking killed it and that's why I love it.
>>136317622
>Dennou coil
>My neighbour totoro
>Galactic Railroad
>Conan, boy from the future
I don't think I'd call any of the characters in that bland especially galactic railroad or Dennou Coil
>>136318465
That's not necessarily true. The character could be expressive and really memorable but the plot could suck ass.
You know what's a good example of this? Cross Ange. All the characters in that show have some sort of weird shit to them but it sucks so bad on every other level
>>136318800
>>136319394
You know what's funny I was actually thinking about putting Music in the OP but I figured it was something that people don't usually argue over. It's either an OST is "great" or "yeah it was there I guess"
>>136315170
Directing > everything else
>>136317186
Which is exactly why sakuga is god tier. I appreciate a good plot and well rounded character, but I can get those from reading a novel. The soul purpose of an anime is to animate said story. And because the sole purpose of an anime is to animate, the animation is the most important aspect, and sakuga is the epitome of said animation.
>>136315170
Cute girls and boobs.
>>136319860
Examples, please? What anime, in your opinion had one of the best people directing it?
-Characters
-Plot
-Animation
tbqh as long as you have a colorful fast of characters that keeps the audience entertained then you've got an A+ anime. Doesn't matter if the animation is shit, as long as the characters are amazing then you're good. Plot is a hit or miss for me.
>>136319980
But if all you have is good animation and nothing else, all you're left with is something that looks pretty but with no substance behind it
>>136315170
>Characters
Good characters kind of become a plot in of themselves.
>Plot
Of course.
>Animation
>>136320449
>Good characters kind of become a plot in of themselves.
Not necessarily if the show is purely slice of life or episodic based
Character
Plot
Animation
>>136318465
False. Shinsekai Yori.
OST
Characters
Plot
Animation
