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>>136271763
なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！
Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!
I'll make it eventually... right?
Can you even learn Japanese in a timely manner without anki? I seriously can't stick to it. I lose motivation for weeks at a time and don't study, and when I come back my anki is ruined.
>>136295282
Sure, but if you have trouble memorizing stuff with anki you'll probably have trouble with it no matter what you do. If you have that much difficulty with finding motivation then maybe you should spend your time on something you care about more.
>>136295282
>Can you even learn Japanese in a timely manner without anki?
Yes.
I've returned to memepost for you all
COMPELLING CONTENT
What's a decent area to be sitting at for review accuracy? Mine seems to be decreasing, and was wondering at which point I should consider studying/reviewing differently.
>>136294636
>"The feces is no longer figurative"
Thank you, anon, I'll use that one some day.
>>136295366
I love you Steve. Never leave us again.
>>136295347
It happens with all my hobbies. I phase in and out of them, and come back to them. Recently I've started reading a lot (English books), and am starting to get back into music more. I've just started wanting to read Japanese again so that's why I asked. I was keeping up with my anki for a while but it became really tedious when I couldn't be bothered.
I'm gonna need some way to take in all the new words. Anki will probably be the best way as there aren't as many alternatives that are as efficient that I can recall. I might just try and read for a while before getting back into it. I don't feel like reading manga, but LNs are kind of difficult. I'll see how I go with one again anyway.
>>136295460
Just pick some easy LN then.
>>136295282
Sure it's possible, just the vocab aquisition would be incredibly slow.
I mean, even Japanese kids make flashcards to remember yojis, what makes you think your gaijin ass will be any better at remembering that shit?
>>136295460
>but LNs are kind of difficult.
"kind of difficult" is just the right spot.
What do you, personally, use for reading practice material?
>>136295765
Light novels feel optimal for me.
Easy to lookup and mine shit without breaking the flow thanks to Rikai, pretty much anything else feels like a pain in the ass by comparison.
>>136295765
Everything? I mean, there's really no reason to set boundaries to what you're gonna read. Even the instruction manual of your cellphone is valid.
>>136295382
90-95% is ideal.
>>136296019
Any strategies for when it starts to dip below that?
>>136296181
Suicide.
Daily reminder that you can't learn Japanese until you learn from this textbook.
>>136296317
Nice too see some fresh memes
>>136296317
Who thought this was a good idea?
>>136296906
The burger troops needed some way of communicating with the local population.
>>136296741
>fresh
Hello there, NYR.
Is it normal to get kanji readings wrong sometimes even when you've seen that kanji tens of thousands of times before?
>>136296987
That book predates burger troops landing in Japan by decades.
>>136296989
Whoosh.
>>136297060
Not for me.
>>136296906
This was state of the art Japanese language material at the time. Google Exercises in the Yokohama Dialect.
>>136296989
Him calling a stale meme fresh was in itself a meme. You just got double meme dream teamed and you didn't even realize it.
I'm getting about half way in the "optimized" Core 2k/6k deck and I'm noticing there's quite a few duplicates. Anyone know why that is? It's kind of annoying and I'm suspending them when I find them. I've seen at least 5. Sometimes they have a different audio clip and sentence but they're still the same exact word. One even didn't have a different clip and sentence, all the fields were exactly the same except for the index numbers.
>>136296317
>Nine
>Cocoanuts
>>136296989
Must be a burgerclap to fail that miserably at grasping sarcasm.
>>136297060
You'll probably get it right after reading it wrong after another ten thousand times.
水心あれば魚心
魚心あれば水心
>>136297300
Hope so
I assume it's just because anki's so boring that I inadvertently only half pay attention
TAIDAMA!
>>136298223
ママ～
只今！
>>136297567
>anki's so boring
I know that feeling, at least i am done with 6k.
Right now i am doing the last 4k from the 10k deck and encounter these in the first 30 thirty cards, 何分 - 何でも - 何かと - 何ら - 何卒, i don't know why but they are giving me a hard time, i always mix up the meanings.
>>136298330
So this is the power ... of anki.
>>136298330
Mmm it's even worse with core because at least with a mined deck it's words that you've seen while reading at least once, so it's a bit easier to recall them
>>136298570
This is the stupidest fucking shit I've watched all week.
>>136298545
I usually cram the forgotten cards a few times and then they stick.
Maybe i'll just stop that deck and completely focus on a self mined one.
>>136298672
Fuck you retard.
>>136295218
It's over.
when's the meet 'n' fuck?
>>136298706
I swear to god if you insult me one more time I'll suck your dick you faggot.
>>136298766
at ur moms place every day
>>136298814
guess he didn't get the invite LMAO
>>136298330
Why not just stop at 6k and work with mined words from now on? You won't run into this sort of problems (like 何分 - 何でも - 何かと - 何ら - 何卒 being clumped together without context) with mined words and there are more than enough words out there for you to keep a healthy pace of new words/day.
>>136298814
must be depressing having an orgy in a graveyard everyday lmao
>>136298570
Why are you linking this shit here?
>>136298570
Man this bitches face pisses me off
>>136298899
>>136298570
Yea, what the fuck? Now I have to jerk one off
>>136298899
I want to slide my dick in her stinky armpits.
>>136298920
>jerking off to a girl with downs
Now here's a fucked up fetish.
>>136298984
>>136298920
Kill yourself.
普段なら疲れを感じるような運動量では決してないのに、やたら疲れた気分になるのは結果がまったく出ていないからだろう。
What does 運動量 mean here?
>>136299129
work/job
>>136299129
>運動 うんどう (n,vs) exercise; physical training; work-out; appeal; campaign; drive; crusade; movement; lobbying; motion; movement; (P)
>量 りょう (n,n-suf) quantity; amount; volume; portion (of food); (P)
>量
>n-suf
>>136298848
I guess i will do that and grab the DoJG deck because thats most likely a good idea.
Why adverbs are so fucking hard to remember god fucking damn those shits
>>136299271
>adverbs are so fucking hard to remember
I don't get it. How can someone have trouble only with adverbs? They're just like every other word. Unless you're saying adverbs when you actually mean something else.Anglo?
>>136299271
I know that feel
Onomatopoeia words as well are a pain in the ass
Generally anything that's written with just kana needs to fuck off
いいわ
>>136299326
>They're just like every other word.
No they're not
When I see 椅子 I think of a chair and remember it
When I see 眩しい I think of something bright and remember it
When I see 掘る I think of someone digging and remember it
When I see 咄嗟に shit is too abstract to imagine so I fail to remember, even when the author is kind enough to write the thing with kanji.
>>136290940
Typo
>>136290797
>not liking solo let's plays
Anyway, yeah, youtube for some ゆっくり実況
>>136299774
Being abstract and being an adverb are not particularly correlated. How do you deal with more abstract nouns/adjectives/verbs such as 運命, 空々しい or 捗る?
Learning by the moonlight
Shitposting by the sunlight
Tralalala
>>136299774
Hahahahahahaha nigga why do you have problem with those it's just the same words with any other Japanese words nigga hahaha just remember them hahahahaha
>>136300130
Those more abstract words still refer to concrete concepts though, just because it's a more abstract concept like fate doesn't mean you can't still easily think of it on it's own and remember it, but adverbs don't really refer to anything on their own, their meanings only really makes sense when paired with other words
>つきまとう女甲
What does the 甲 at the end means? It's not a name, and it's referring just to a generic girl
Just heard a very misleading usage of the て-form. Took me a second to hear it correctly. Upon asked why she chose that particular school, a girl replies:
>あたしは、うちの姉がこの学校の生徒だったからな。もう、卒業していないけど。
What do you think? Feel anything out of place?
>>136299774
>掘る
>dig
Wow so hard to remember.
JLPT resuls will be announced in 8 days
>>136300470
Seems pretty standard
>>136300482
Do you have the downs by any chance?
>>136300564
She's saying that her sister already graduated, and yet she says もう、卒業していない. You don't think that's misleading?
>>136300431
I think your problem is not about things being abstract/concrete, but about things being easily to visualize or not. Have you tried visualizing a situation where the adverb applies and use it as a mnemonic? Like for 咄嗟に, the example sentence on the dictionary is「咄嗟にブレーキをふむ」. You could use that as a more concrete reference to remember the word by.
>>136300640
Well yeah example sentences do help a lot, and I try to use them whenever I encounter a difficult word, but it's still harder to recall a word based on it's use in an example sentence than it is to just recall a word working on it's own
I'm not the guy that originally said he hated adverbs by the way so it's probably different for him, but personally I don't even really think adverbs being "abstract" or easy to visualise is the main reason why I can't remember them, that is an aspect, but I hate them because they're mostly always written in kana, and I have a lot of difficulty differentiating them from other similar kana words
>>136300466
Anyone?
>>136300466
Is the generic girl a 女神
>>136301476
Nope, just a generic (stalker) girl
How is the name 豚田 read?
>>136301862
>How is the name XXXX read
Arbitrary as fuck, could be anything, just guess and move on
I'd read it as とんだ or ぶただ, but it could be anything really.
>>136301862
ぶたおか
Learn2nanori
>>136302802
I am unable to confirm this.
>>136301862
Is that a real name?
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UrWc4vv.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
Newfag here, i've been practicing with real kana for a couple of days. How much time did it take you to advance to anki?
>>136303623
The moment I could recognize each kana however long it took
>>136303623
A couple of days.
There's no need to wait until you've mastered them. You'll get plenty of practice while studying grammar and vocab.
What's the difference between WaniKani and Nihongo Master? I'm not subscribing to either, I just see the ads pop up sometimes.
>>136303868
What matters is what's similar, and the similarity is they both aren't worth using
![Card-Clock-Hearts1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/q8ZKycF.jpg "Card-Clock-Hearts1[1].jpg")
>>136303700
How much time is that
>>136303725
I dont know how anki works, but i dont want to spent half of the time looking the reference sheet.
Besides, two days is not enough to recognize all the patterns.
>>136303910
>J = 11
>Q = 12
>>136300497
fuck me
>>136303623
I learned kana in Anki, so 0.
>>136304091
They will. Making gaijin boys feel inadequate is their favourite activity.
>>136303989
Yes?
>>136303623
2 days.
>>136304438
Well, seems like im retard. How many hours did you spend ?
>>136303910
Why do you ask for advice if you're going to throw counterarguments at it? Listen to the voice of experience for once. Adding one column every five minutes you can be done with hirgana in an hour plus another hour for kata. You don't have to do it all at once. Just spare five minutes here and five minutes there and you're good.
>>136304584
Not that anon but it took me 2 hours for hiragana and about 4 for katakana.
There's a kana Anki deck in the Japanese learners zip file that will hold your hand through the process. But both shouldn't take you long.
>>136304612
I'm a bit skeptical. I feel like i can do that in two days but i will forget everything on day 3. So i'm not sure if it's worth it, also
>the voice of experience.
Did you go full japanese?
>>136304584
I wrote them down and kept reviewing them in Anki until I could get all of them right without failing one, probably took 2+ hours.
>>136304855
>I feel like i can do that in two days but i will forget everything on day 3.
When you do vocab in Anki, which you should start after reading a bit of Tae Kim and kana, you'll see the kana EVERY card so they'll fast become solid in your memory.
>>136304855
I've been at it for three years, I can read and watch most of the stuff I want, but more importantly, I've been here for three years and I've seen countless people go through the same process.
You won't forget anything because you'll constantly be using it for literally everything once you start studying. Also, nothing stops you from going back to realkana and working on them some more even after you've started anki and grammar.
>>136303910
Takes like a week or two.
>>136304904
Where the hell did you mine that
>>136305152
No clue, I'm gonna suspend it anyway
Word of the day: 一触即発
飽きられませんね、こういう四字熟語
一つの単語でありながら、まるで一文がまるごとそこに含まれているように見えます
How is using web anki for reviews? I don't feel like throwing 20 quid at the app store.
>>136305526
Web anki is good enough to do the job you want it to do. It's just a little laggy sometimes.
>雪が積もっています。
How would this sentence translate as literally (and accurately) as possible? Would it be, the snow is accumulating (and continuing to accumulate, i.e. currently falling), or that the snow has accumulated (and has now stopped, in its present, accumulated state)?
>>136305827
>>136305827
Can be both.
How do you say edgy in nihonese? Guts like edgy.
>>136305985
俺TUUUUUU
>>136296989
>NYR
Wow haven't seen that since i was one myself.
>>136297567
Being done with reps for the day feels so free, man.
>>136305827
>っています
>>136306201
>tfw ignoring reps to watch more Japanese let's plays
they're so addicting
>>136306293
I'm still in the process of trying to understand what the hell pockys saying 90% of the time
>>136303623
>cardfaggots learning japanese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2FGgYp6mdk
>>136304855
>Did you go full japanese?
One of the worst memes and a big waste of time tbqh. Using a J-J dictionary will be very helpful for various reasons once you attain intermediate skill but as a beginner don't waste your time.
>>136306235
ナイス緑字
Does absconding mean disappearance?
>>136307001
Even as an intermediate I recommend J-E dictionaries, for the simple reason English definitions are a lot more concise. Like, for "whale" in Japanese you'd get a definition like "a very large marine mammal with a streamlined hairless body, a horizontal tail fin, and a blowhole on top of the head for breathing." which is a lot less useful than just "whale" in English.
>>136307672
It means fleeing / running away / leaving
>>136307744
Thank you
>>136306804
I'm so happy that I'm not a loser like David.
>>136307731
Depends on the word really, a lot of the times the English definition is as vague or imprecise as it is concise. I recommend looking at a J>E and pursuing a better definition at a J>J if you think the first one was unsatisfying,
>>136306804
We're all far more self-aware or self-hating than David-kun.
>>136306804
I still haven't watched this.
I think the farthest I got was the japs greeting him at airport.
>>136307808
It sucks really.
>>136307808
Davido-kun is just a character.
音姫
>http://www.coelang.tufs.ac.jp/mt/ja/gmod/contents/explanation/053.html
Here's an extensive list of the different usages each (main) particle has.
>wake up
>put on a let's play
>five hours have passed of non-stop listening practice
Feels good to study hard
>>136308839
That's a funny word.
>>136308908
What game?
>>136308839
便利ですね
If I learn japaneae...will I get qt trap boipussy?
>>136308986
You need to learn thai for that.
>>136309117
You don't need to know anything about the language, you just need a wad of American dollars.
>>136306804
Where's the charlies angel?! Where?!
>>136308986
Become your own qt trap. It's a good decision.
Also makes finding other qt traps regardless of race easier.
>>136308986
Faggots need to fuck off.
率直に言って彼女は好きでない
I saw this as an example sentence for 率直 but is it grammatical? 好きでない sounds kind of weird
>>136309326
Nah でない is just negative for です i think? I see it sometimes.
>Do genki 1 + core 2k
I feel like I'm too casual to do both, is it that bad to just finish genki 1 before starting core 2k?
陵辱
凌辱
WHY JAPANESE PEOPLE?
LITERALLY INDISTINGUISHABLE
>>136305344
四字熟語ってのは、短文が濃縮されたものだからね
>>136305827
積もった雪の上で遊ぶ子供たち
>ゆきんこ
>>136309381
Ah fair enough
>>136309510
>is it that bad to just finish genki 1 before starting core 2k?
Yes, because Core is just a slow vocab acquisiton (well, you can make it fast), whereas Genki 1 is primarily focused on grammar. If you wait to do Core all you'll be doing is slowing down your overall progress in the language for 0 benefit except satisfying your current... laziness? Or whatever it is.
>>136309326
でない = ではない. は gets dropped sometimes. I'm not sure whether there are any actual rules governing this, but that's all you need to know.
approximately how many words do you need to know before you can start reading light novels well? The core 10k?
>>136309628
Why not just read light novels and mine? Fastest way to reading them there is.
>>136309628
You're going to be looking up words all the time no matter what at the beginning. You won’t be able to read LNs well until you've read a lot of LNs.
>>136309628
It really depends on how you define "well".
I started at 2k and I was getting around with very heavy usage of rikai.
>>136309177
Replied to the wrong post.
>>136309611
I just wanted more time for anime, but okay, I'll cut down my watching and get to it.
ふええ、にほんじゅうゆきだらけだよう
まああたしのところはあめだけどね
>>136309628
Just read Tae Kim and mine your way through them.
>>136309805
Cut down your 4chan brah
Anki also has the advantage of being on mobile, so you can do it on public transport, in between classes, on the shitter, etc, there's really no excuse not to do it.
>>136309295
Don't you want to play a game of pretend anon?
>>136305152
本好きの下克上 always uses that one instead of 窯
>>136310023
Do you want to play a game of please hang yourself?
>263 cards in 60 minutes
>only 72% correct
>>136310118
>263 cards in 60 minutes
How does this happen
>>136309950
>Tae Kim
Delete this meme
>>136310118
These are by far the best stats I've ever done, how do I do?
>>136310013
I'll get it for my phone, thanks.
>Cut down your 4chan brah
I hope you all use leechblock.
>>136310191
Yeah right? So fast.
>>136310118
You should have done RTK.
>>136310226
>651 cards in 49 minutes
Why do you have so many cards?
>>136310191
Being an idiot. Also switching out of Anki every few minutes.
>>136310313
>651
>a lot
I have nearly 1000 daily reviews each day, which take me about 1.5 hours. That's not even including new cards.
>>136309515
what's your problem? They both are read the same way and mean the same thing.
>Jouyou Kanji: 2066 of 2136 - 96.72%
>>136310385
Don't you have a deck to clean?
>>136310385
But can you handwrite them?
>>136310084
Tsundere as fuck
>>136310426
My hand can write them, yes
>>136310361
What happened to <100 reviews a day?
>>136310506
Fiction, unless you do 10 cards a day or less.
>>136310503
Remember what happened yesterday when we started this shit?
>>136310597
Don't reply then you idiot.
>>136310597
Not my fault you went on a rampage.
>>136310361
How many new cards do you do?
>>136310313
>Why do you have so many cards?
>haven't really read VNs for days due to spending all time on listening practice
>on the other hand neglected listening practice for close to two years
The struggle
>>136309939
Are you happy about that? Or you wanted snow?
Post god-tier anki music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwAEaoU2BdY
>>136311440
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74kGaqq6HSg
朝飯
朝ごはん
朝食
t-theres more isn't there. I haven't seen breakfasts final form.
>>136311525
モーニングミール
Anyone else have a hard time reading numbers in Japanese? Even if it's in the middle of text I just read it in English. I'm also procrastinating on sitting down and really trying to understand their way of expressing numbers what with 10,000 being its own "place".
>>136311778
Fuck yes, no clue why it's so hard but yeah
>>136311778
>what with 10,000 being its own "place".
Says the language who says shit like "twelve hundred".
>>136311778
Try listening to numbers in Japanese that shit's impossible
When exactly does kaniwani start, you know, teaching me kanji?
I've been learning the same 26 basic radicals for three days now and every time I review them the timer increases.
>>136311913
Only Americans say that shit
>>136311189
Woah that's a terrible accuracy on your mature cards. You should probably cut back on your new cards per day
>>136311913
But you can also say "one thousand two hundred". Isn't there pretty much only one way to say numbers in Japanese?
>>136312009
It's just because I had a lot of those rare vocab cards that you do like two or three times in anki and then dont see again for a month, usually it's more like 90%, it was yesterday at least
>>136297227
How do you read 九つ then?
coconuts.
>>136312350
ここのつ
>>136312350
Coconuts.
>>136312527
Romance-fag actually.
>>136312012
>not saying 一千二○○
>>136311778
>Anyone else have a hard time reading numbers in Japanese?
Found your problem:
> Even if it's in the middle of text I just read it in English
塩を少々
>>136313897
何とぞ、塩を少々
>>136313950
しょうですか
>>136311979
As soon as you're ready.
>>136314073
うん、しょうゆうことです
>>136311509
Moonman beats are so smooth.
>>136298330
It's cause no context. Newfags always rush through a bunch of vocab early on because everything is distinct. Need context for that 何でも、なんやら なんなら shit.
>>136311778
Even after years of Japanese I haven't fully got my head around numbers. Fuck numbers. How can 123 be so difficult? Somehow japs found a way.
I decided to sync Anki so I could use it on my phone but my decks have loads high resolution images attached to them and now It's uploading every single one.
This will literally take a day of uploading and I can't cancel it out without closing Anki. I can't use Anki anymore.
What now?
>>136314742
>>136314742
Go into your image folder and delete everything.
>>136314742
If it's already synced the deck it moves onto the content afterward. Check if it's just syncing content. If it is you can just force close and it shouldn't be a problem.
>>136311509
>>136314564
>>136314768
>>>/pol/
>>136314768
So many new ones came out I haven't seen a lot of them.
I thought moonman was associated with vaporwave. What's this /pol/faggotry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hI0qMtdfng
>>136314960
Moonman seems to have picked up again for some reason, stronger than ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yhaz7WFgRY
>>136311189
How much vocab you know? If it ever goes past 1000 I'm just gonna limit the amount of reviews I get a day.
>>136314981
It would probably surprise us how much overlap there is between /a/ and /pol/, actually. Anime promotes nationalistic pride in a way that western shows don't, if you think about it.
>>136315071
People listen to this?
Sounds like shit with that text to speech voice
>>136315268
Its not made to sound good its made to piss people off.
>>136315268
Man, I used to think the same thing, but somehow it grows on you.
>>136315268
It's all about the message.
>>136315405
This >>136311509 legitimately sounds great.
Let's read something.
>>136316308
>噺
What novel is this?
>>136316308
>got stuck in the first word
Anon. One day, someone will appear who will teach you.
But the sole objective of my current self is to liberate DJT. If you try to prevent that, even this thread will show you no mercy.
>Unlimited Methods Work
I had neither a tutor nor a class. All I have is this world. If a chosen method is a self-learner's symbol, then this world is my chosen method.
It copies and backs up any program or book that I have used.
That is my ability as a language learner.
Every Method Here Works.
>reading sex scene without a texthooker
>holy shit this is the most amazing sex ever
>I've never wanted a girl more
>fully erect
>ふいにグリグラが眉を顰め、動きを止めた。
>what does 顰め mean, better look it up
>I see the kanji has 卑 in it, so I'll check what radicals it has and put those into Jisho radical search
>ah here 顰 is, right at the bottom
>so it's read しかめ, I see, well let's type out this sentence and add it to my mining deck
>right now back to the sex scene
>completely lost all arousal
>fuck
>>136316547
"えっと"?
>>136316547
Which? etto, maido or bakabakashii? If it was etto the fault is entirely on you.
>>136316618
>>136316627
I meant 毎度
>>136316551
Let me give you a pro tip son, this has come in handy more times than I can count
1) Install Share-X or whatever screenshot tool you want
2) When you see a word or kanji you don't know that stops your progress, press prt scrn and snip the word out
3) Keep reading, flow barely interrupted
4) Come to screenshot folder later and look up each word there
It's not perfect but for nukige it's invaluable
>>136316453
Good question. I tried to type in some of the words but all that came up was the little short story, not the actual novel it was from.
>>136316550
Do you have enough materials in stock, Freedom Knight?
>>136316550
Fuck off.
>>136317198
When's the last time you made fresh meme OC, motherfucker? I'll take his gladly.
>>136317248
Because he is adding his reddit shit into it as if it's a part of the thread when he's the only one who spams it. And replacing UBW with other random bullshit is far from original to begin with.
