Tsundere, kuudere, dandere, yandere... and even s-dere. Can you come up with a new dere archetype, /a/?
Anondere.
>>136293957
fagotdere
You are big one OP
>>136294017
How can this work as dere?
>>136294106
ERP between two anonymous individuals.
>>136294106
Blindfolds.
Paper bag.
Spoon.
Take your pick.
>>136293957
deresado
NTRdere
Shitpostdere.
Crippledere. First they're just crippled, then they're dere.
Nigdere.
She steals, sits on welfare and complains about white man, but she actually cares about him.
>>136294106
This >>136294223 but it evolves into real life contact. In reality, the anondere is a completely different person than online but as time passes, he turns into his online self in reality.
>>136293957
Mandere, girl suddenly go full manly when the love is in the air.
Porndere, cute girl that wants to be anon's friend, yet everybody has seen her get naked with faceless men.
Netsudere. Opposite of kuudere. Expresses her love in the most hot-blooded over the top way possible.
YOU'RE A MILLION YEARS TO EARLY TO RUN AWAY FROM MY LOVE ANON-KUN
>>136293957
Edgydere. Girl acts like an obnoxious edgelord, chuuni optional, then tries and fails to cut it out when she's deredere.
Tsundere and yandere are legitimate (yandere actually used to be debatable). All the other ones are just western fangirl BS made up because "-dere" was becoming a meme on the Internet; they have no actual basis in either the historic sense and are not used by the Japanese.
>>136294702
Isn't that wrong though? Wouldn't it be that she covers up her love with hot-blooded antics and eventually expresses herself normally?
However for my critique of your concept, me and my dick are pleased by this concept and it needs to happen more often.
Perfectdere.
>>136294827
The * in *dere doesn't necessarily cover up the dere. Take yandere, where the yandeiru and dere usually just merges together perfectly and strengthen each other. It's just tsun and dere that naturally oppose each other.
>>136294827
No? You're just taking the "deny own feelings" part of tsundere out and applying it to this when there is no reason to. Aren't you?
>>136293957
>>136294825
>All the other ones are just western fangirl BS made up
Do you have a source on this? I'm legimately interested. For it to become an archetype, you must have enough characters that fall under the label to warrant it existing in the first place.
Who would be good examples of yandere?
>>136294934
>>136294960
Ah right, I'm being an idiot. Ignore me.
>>136293957
It'd be nice to see just dere for once. Open and honest love without complexes.
>Kuudere
>Tsundere
Can one be both
>>136295040
The joke wouldn't work.
>>136295176
Joke?
>>136295040
Nero?
>>136295190
Joke being that the examples DID kill people.
>>136294106
>>136295040
Augusto Pinochet? Then again he was more cold blooded in character
>>136295040
The US is yandere towards oil
>>136294702
Marika
>>136295262
If I can't have, I will bomb you?
>>136294106
Girl who hides his identity from the MC because she's too shy to meet
Talks in memes
>>136295238
That's not the point though. Think about it, Stalin absolutely "motivated his friends with his relentless optimism", eg. through communism.
And Kim Jung-Il and Satan both "tends to win everybody's sympathy".
I think Hitler would be a good tsundere too though.
And USA is/was pretty yandere towards Israel.
>>136294106
Two anons fall in love with each other's facades, and nothing else. The moment the act is dropped and their real selves are shown, the love is dead.
In a sense, it happens all the time.
And where's my goddere already?
>>136295250
I fucking love this artist, wish he'd draw more explicit porn
>>136295327
Exactly my point. Yandere would kill to protect the love, and putting someone who actually did kill to protect what they love would be pointless.
>>136294825
Kuudere is a valid archetype, it's just that westerners tend to misunderstand it to mean emotionless, when it just means being "cool" (in the cool-headed sense of the word) and affectionate. Dandere is also a word defined by the Japanese, but it's not used as much and is more of an after the fact definition, as in, no one sits down to make a dandere character, but when you define it you can recognize a lot of characters who fit the definition.
But yeah, beyond those, it's mostly just westerners who think you can put dere behind a word and make up a new archetype.
>>136295327
...So can I expect some Yuri action between tundradere Russia and yan/tsundere US?
>>136295325
So you could say she isunable to confess, she is gifted by a deus ex machina with yadda yadda
One anon suggested to me the term kishidere when I tried to describe him the characters I like.
People like Selvaria who are strong, focused and capable but also very strictly devoted and loving to someone they serve.
Ayaka from wcw also fits I think, maybe Saeko from HotD too, but to a lesser extent.
>>136295495
Russia and USA are totally tsun for each other.
>>136293957
CoDere
>>136293957
The nodere, the girl that does not want the MC's D in any form or way nor show any indication that she does.
>>136295663
When "dere" part Kicks in?
>>136295519
True enough, but I think both countries come more along as Yanderes , they both possessive, and will never willingly give up on something.
So it's more like deadly staredown between two yans
>>136293957
would she be sad if I died?
>>136295519
If I know my geo-politics, Canada is the childhood friend to US and is currently the route US is trying to clear. Mexico is the cousin that's trying to seduce US but failing because she's a drug ridden slut. GB and France is the beta-couple that's tsundere to each other and each trying to use US to make each other jealous but ended up feeling something for US. Middle East is the yandere that constantly yells at the US and telling US to go away but when US actually does, Middle East suddenly breaks something and says this is US fault and that US can't leave until US fixes it. China is the thousand year old vampire loli who, while is immensely powerful, has no idea what to do, and while her pride is making her act on her own, she is secrelty obsessing over US and imitating what US is doing. Russia is the rival tsundere and is trying to get the US's attention again after she had spilled all of her spaghetti from going too tsun over US during the Cold War and then too much dere afterward.
>>136295695
Never, that's why it's called no dere.
>>136296025
Excellent, I claim loli
>>136296025
Fund it.
>>136296025
what archetype are the jews in this situation?
>>136296025
I'd watch it.
>>136296025
What about Middle East now freeloading off of Europe and having her way with them against their will?
>>136296195
Israel is the little sister whose decided to learn from older brother and somehow has a reverse harem tsundere/yandere in the middle east. US broke Japan's illusions during WW2 and took Japan in as a little sister but now Japan is trying to act like an adult to get US-onii-chan to stop treating her like a little sister and into something more.
>>136296224
Middle East is starting to feel lonely now that US is starting to get tired of their yandere actions and blames GB and France for taking US away, so Middle East is trying to eliminate the competition.
Nah , it was straightmindbreak
Shame Hetalia had to be cute boys doing cute things and not cute girls doing cute things
Nondere-she acts all sweet and nice toward you but really only likes you as a friend.
Kamidere
>>136293957
bullydere
>>136296025
France is a total tsundere for Germany, filthy anglo knows nothing but anglo shit
>>136298059
More like Germany is a harem master who's abusing its power as student council president to force them into the harem.
Okadere. Henpicking and orderly at first, but smooths out over time.
>>136294318
We already have one of those.
>>136294702
i like it. like a female Rock Lee kind of. holy fuck imagine them in bed
>>136299984
I had a giggleJohn Deere makes 10/10 tractors, would take waifu on date with
>>136298320
I feel like this is already a thing and I just can't think of any examples off the top of my head. Or maybe I just read too much mother x son /ss/ incest porn, I dunno.
>>136300176
Are tractor dates a thing?
>>136294017
Literally the first thing that came to my mind.
>>136298246
Filthy anglo knows nothing but anglo shit
Comdere, likes you because other girls like you.
>>136300658
You can always make it a thing if not.
>>136293957
slutdere
the love interest well and truly loves you with all her heart but she can't keep it in her pants and fucks anything with a pulse
asking her to be monogamous isn't an option
>>136301204
I rather have the type of slutdere thats more like putting on an act about being confident in her sexual prowess and being able to seduce any guy but is actually a virgin and really likes the MC.
>>136293957
the Sly-dere
Hachiman does call her "the Master of Sly"
>>136302698
>but is actually a virgin
Shitty otaku purity fetish. If you're going to have a character act like a slut, then have them actually own it instead of secretly being a pure girl waiting for the MC's divine cock.
Not a single mention of dorodere? /a/ isn't what it used to be.
>>136293957
>they will never go to the beach
>>136293957
You forgot Goudere.
whatever -dere these women are
japan doesn't have a name for them so I just call them quintessential handsome women
>>136302981
I did not know about this. You learn something new every day.
>>136293957
wow shes pretty brutal
>>136294702
Wouldn't that be just Nyaruko or Marika?
>>136303135
I really need to keep up with this guy's art. I didn't think he was still drawing her.
>>136303034
>>136303252
/pol/dere
always makes political statements when flushed
>>136303180
Well, it has been two years since Nanashi last drew a Nagatoro image set. Most likely he will continue to draw Nagatoro whenever he feels like it. Griselle Cunttits and exhibitionist class rep also got some new art and it's been like forever since he last drew them.
>>136304044
Has it really been two years? Jesus.
>>136303978
I-it's not like the J-jews did 9-11 or anything! D-don't get the wrong idea, stupid goiym.
Can't remember which dere it was but it was something someone posted in the OP of a sadpanda thread a year ago or something, girl was a bully first I think or something like that and it was called daredere or something fuck I can't remember
The guy was sick in bed in the story
>>136302869
>Hating purity
>>136302698
>Fake sluts
If it ever unironically becomes more of a thing we should rally to nuke Japan 2 more times
>>136296025
>not shit Hetalia
Fund it.
Robotdere.
A machine that is still learning cognitive abilities and emotions. Highly intelligent, and not completely aware of what is is feeling. Stupidly dangerous for extra flavor.
>>136293957
How about the densedere
No vixen can woe him, no female charms can seduce him, and even if he was drugged, tied, and beaten up by his desperate women, he will always find a way to escape their grasp
But deep inside, he really cares for them
>>136304466
>everyone should be a virgin!
>even the sluts!
>ESPECIALLY the sluts!
>how else are they supposed to give their super special first time that means love forever to the MC i'm self inserting as!
>make thread about "dere" types
>don't include goudere, himedere, or mayadere
fucking casual reddit shitposter detected.
>>136305004
What relevance does knowing the girl fucked other people add to a romantic plot, does it ever make it better?
>>136305004
Why do I feel this slut that's really pure will catch on? Or at least be a gimmick used for a year or two then it becomes snark bait like that toast in mouth thing
Retardere
>>136305127
No, but forcing purity everywhere actively makes it worse. How are you supposed to do anything but roll your eyes at the generic subversion of miss flirts and gets handsy with everyone is actually some yamato dameshit that longs to hold hands with the godlike MC?
It's literally making a character and saying "You thought this about them? WUH-OH, NOPE, THAT'S WRONG! Aren't you surprised? Please buy BDs."
>>136305412
Osaka?
>>136305531
Just leave it for the sex scene, she be like "it's my first".
3 words ain't gonna kill ya dude, but it will sell BDs.
>>136293957
why does anyone even like that bitch?
>>136305648
They don't like her. They find her amusing/tickles their M tendencies.
>>136293957
Let's not forget the ultimate one.
>>136305753
give me a tsundere anyway over her.
>>136305531
>>136305586
Didn't B Gata H Kei have less than Heavy Object tier sales?
>>136305648
She makes me want to throat fuck her.
That's a good thing.
>>136305249
>Hinedere
The absolute best
Christdere
A girl who is a devout Christian who chastises MC for being horny but yet is secretly horny herself
>>136306756
This has been done before but in a more secular tone.
>>136306906
rip
>>136306906
I still don't understand how did he not spray his love juice all over her back.
>>136295660
The original gundere.
>>136293957
>smugdere
>yuri to straight-dere
>deretsun
>kuutsun
>tsunyandere
>kuugenkidere
>>136293957
The tears in her eyes make me wonder which one is being hurt more by her words here.
>>136307452
Those are tears of pleasure, anon. Hasn't a good orgasm made you tear up a little?
>>136294106A boy falls in love with a girl.
Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
>>136307537
I can honestly say I've never crimaxed before, though an anime booty of sufficient size and beauty has been known to bring a tear to my eye.
>>136294967
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Tsundere
>>136295327
>Stalin absolutely "motivated his friends with his relentless optimism"
Stalin was paranoid, depressive and hated everyone.
>>136308685
You must have quick shitty orgasms. Try edging for a few hours. It's not exactly crying but the pleasure will make you tear up for some odd reason.
>>136308851
That's a hell of an assumption based just on hearing that I don't cry when I bust a nut. The best orgasms I have are the ones that either feel so good that it happens almost embarrassingly quickly, like when you only make it about ten pages into the doujin because it's so fucking perfect, or the ones that have been built up with ecchi or fanservice and explode spectacularly once you get to doing the deed. Edging over the course of hours is a commitment and can be horribly impractical if I have sudden business to attend to or important errands to run, lot of times it just isn't worth it.
>>136309298
Maybe you're right. I actually tear up more from the act of edging itself than the actual orgasm. I wonder what is the physiological reasoning behind this. It's not pain or anything, it's the same response like you would have when you stare at the sun.
>>136293957
3-Dere
Slutdere had been picking up lately among NTRfags.
A girls who fucks and seduces other men for your sake.
I hate it though.
>>136309550
Yeah, I'm not the guy to ask about that either. Maybe I get a free day sometime soon and give it a go, see if it makes me cry. I'm open minded, I ain't afraid to get some of the ol' waterworks going, then weep afterwards. Heyooo.
>>136309816
That's still NTR though. Why is there even a need to give it a sub-classification?
Who /bakadere/ and /smugdere/ here
>>136294920
underrated
>>136310048
How about smug bakas?
Yandere, but instead of being batshit insane and in love with the MC it's about the guy trying to turn her into a normal person
>>136293957
how about uomidere
>>136309550
I just looked it up and it seems that tears in the eyes from looking at the sun is caused by an excess of melatonin, perhaps an excess of dopamine causes the same effect?
>>136307049
No.
>>136295150
Not really. One has evolved into the other before but they can't coexist.
>>136295325
Sounds similar to Kurisu from Steins;Gate.
>>136306906
What anime is this?
>>136295262
I like to imagine the US as a large-breasted, psychotic, yandere slut who reverse rapes everyone and forces them to squirt their hot, thick, black oil inside her.
>>136312686
It's a show about Love Nectar
>>136312792
I like where this is going
>>136312879
I.. I want to know more about love nectar..
>>136313021
>>136310995
Can't you kind of mess up your body doing that? You may want to dial it back a bit.
>>136312792
>>136313143
>>136313252
>>136313402
Was she wearing panties during that scene?
>>136313402
I would do so many things to Anna.
>>136296025
I'll only fund it if Britain is a cake.
>>136313402
I actually have to pay for that. Fucking faggot kid.
>>136313528
He's only into pure girls like pic related. He didn't know Anna was a sexual deviant
>>136303252
Are there rips of the last two volumes up anywhere?
Looks like It got official english releases, but that doesnt usually stop anyone.
One we see all the time, but nobody comments on: Drunkdere - where, the more drunk the person gets, the more they say that they love you, and get affectionate.
>>136314565
It's called Honne and tatemae. I learned that when I was working in Japan.
>>136305068
>mayadere
So underused.
>>136313501
>Britain and France are both ara ara christmas cakes while US is the strapping young male that the two have decided on as their target to settle who's the better one in their rivalry
>>136293957Deredevil
>>136308663
Finds a way!