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Is fansubbing finally dead?
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Is fansubbing finally dead?
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What's this fansubbing you oldfags keep talking about? Does it have something to do with the elusive "Moot"?
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Who cares, there's fanripping.
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Official translations are always better because they are professionals who are paid to do it instead of a neet who translates for fun and thinks he learned jap through watching a bunch of animu.

Everything I said above are objective facts.
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>>136255487
>tfw Mori won't be subbing Dagashi Kashi anymore
>Stuck with FUNi shitsubs
I know it wouldn't last forever, but it was nice to hear "CANOE BANG YUMI WA GRAND SPONSA TEEKYU OH CHRISTMAS" again.
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>>136255487
It finally met its original goal. Let it sleep in peace.
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Yes, isnt it beautiful?
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>>136255487
I was wondering today if all those attention whores would come back if CR and Funi just died one day.
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Boy, i sure do miss all the memes and drama.
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>>136255818
Half of them are working for CR and funi. They never left us. They're just taking money now.
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>>136255678
>mori wont be subbing dagashi anymore
fuck everything
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I only miss stylised subs and translations for OPs/EDs. Other than that it was all going to shit with localisation and other bullshit anyway.
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I don't need it anymore, ever since I became a neet, who thinks he learned jap through watching a bunch of animu. It's more than enough to grab a HS script, slap it onto a raw and rely on my ears whenever the "professionals" make a habitual slip. Sometimes the HS rips are even indistinguishable from raws in terms of the video, so it becomes even easier.
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Why do people hate funi and crunchy so much?
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>>136256023
Because they don't like paying for stuff.
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Yeah, everything I've even downaloded this season has been hobbie rips.
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>>136256116
>he thinks he supports the industry by giving jews money
>in reality japs are getting buttfucked and barely receive any money
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But most of the shows on that list have been picked up by sub groups
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>>136255901
Hey, you still have commie! Good goy.
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>>136255653
Too bad CR hires those neets to officially translate their series and they obviously get lazy.
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>>136256010
Pretty much this. People despise CR and Funi but in the end the translations are close enough that it doesn't matter
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>>136256023
Funi is shit. CR has some shit translators too.
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>>136255653

someone link to that really bad Otaking documentary complaining about fansubs again where he thinks everything should be subbed with completely literal translations in 0.5 font to avoid distracting the viewer
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>>136256023
I don't have issues with CR, but funi encodes look like literal shit and their hardcoded font looks like a nigger.
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>>136256243
Don't respond to any post that ends with that objective facts line. It's a troll.
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It's been officially dead for like 2 years. And we've been having these threads for decades.
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>>136256010
Those are not real raws, they're shit.
>>136256023
Because the translations and the encoding is shit?
They localize and leave out the honorifics.
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>>136255653
>Official translations are always better
Not true in the slightest.
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>>136255678
>>136255901
I'm still on the fence about it because on one hand it'll free up 6+ hours out of my day every Friday and we don't need 3 simulcasts + 4 fansub groups all gangbanging a single show, but on the other hand I'm genuinely having a lot of fun translating Dagashi Kashi each week, livestreaming the whole process and talking shit with everyone in the chat.

I'd rather spend my time translating something that doesn't have any English translations at all, though. I mean, that was the entire reason I created [Mori] and started fansubbing.
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>>136256023
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>>136256513
Drop it. Put your talents to use elsewhere. Maybe pre-sub a few spring shows to get a head-start on the others. You'd get mad epeen out of that.
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Killing fansubbing is a part of the master plan. Once the last group drops dead, streaming services will go after rippers, either by suing them or implementing hardware DRM that utilizes technologies like TPM, Intel SGX and Protected Video Path that ship with most modern computers.
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>>136256513
Please continue, we love you and your translation, it has to be you!
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>>136256500
>>136256598
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>>136256644
That wouldn't be much of a masterplan because it would hurt the industry immensely.
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>>136256174
>implying the japs even care
The money that the Japanese get from licensing their stuff to the west is chump-change compared to the profits they make from domestic sales. And it's not because they're being taken advantage of, it's because they don't give a shit. They never have. Both creators and audiences have mostly never really cared what the rest of the world thinks of their cartoons, anime is made by the Japanese for the Japanese.

All of this is secondary to the fact that you didn't give an adequate response to that poster and attempted to derail from the fact that western anime fans are mostly bitter poorfags who hate the fact that they have to pay for shit now.
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>>136256429
And how would I go about obtaining the "real" raws?
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>>136256273
>0.5 font
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>>136256500
>bait.png

That's an Aniplex sub. Which is objective garbage, but not indicative of CR.
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>>136256513
>I'm genuinely having a lot of fun translating Dagashi Kashi each week
Then why would you stop?
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relax guys, we have doki for dagashi kashi
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>>136256273
Nice exaggerations, and he was completely right in that video.

Also, I still remember when I watched Mission-E when it aired. Last episode got translations a year and a half later. Fansubbing was so fucking great back then! So much better than what we get now!
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>>136256773
Because I honestly do not see the need for a single show to have 7 separate original translations and releases.
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>>136256741
You download ts you fucking newfag but then again you might as well download fansub releases encodes.
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>>136256866
Whoops, had my trip off from another thread.
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>>136256717
Only the absolute scum otakus buy Blu-rays and DVD in Japan, but nice try.
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>>136256760
If CR decided to use aniplex subs from their streams, then it IS indicative of CR's quality. Go to any monogatari season on CR and it's always spelled like "Senyogahara"
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>>136256513
Will you pick up Ajin?
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>>136256773
So we can all rejoice and get blind from Funi
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>>136256855
Damn that brings back memories.
We're in the age where the raws and translated ones come out within hours of each other.
That's fucking insane.
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>show airs on Tuesday
>time to wait for subs until Thursday
>oh no their TLer is ill
>guess I'll wait a week

No thanks, I'm good.
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>>136255653
>Official translations are always better
kek
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>>136256866
Unless you find something else that you're fond of i really don't see a reason to stop.
I don't even watch the damn show so i don't really give a shit about it, i just don't see a reason for you to stop doing something you enjoy because there's other people doing it.
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>>136256992
>literal memesubs
Even Hulu is better than Commie
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>>136256992
I hate Commie with a passion.
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>>136256992
Hate all you want, that's a correct translation of the pun.
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>>136256844
>mwf the only choice is either Commie, Doki, or Funishit
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>>136256947
Doubt it. Heroine is in the process of doing the first episode now with KamiFS who claims to have a new TL on board for the show. I can't speak for their accuracy since I haven't seen this new TL's stuff.

>>136257005
I have other projects on my fansubbing backlog that I could be doing. Though I'll admit that's mostly just an excuse since I've left one of them stalling for months now.
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>>136257056
>>136257066
monogatari is the only time you take commie
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>>136257111
I'm actually going to agree with you here. It's clearly a pun on お久しぶり = おひさ = おっひさー = おっひざー.
In this case, the joke is translated over quite well.
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>>136256844
Oh, yeah. Forgot about them since they've been banned from Nyaa.
Guess we'll have to use them after Mori drops it. At least they're not as shit as Commie and Funi.
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>>136257056
They're legit when they do a series they like

i.e Monogatari and Oregairu. It's 100 times better than the subpar "official" subs

>>136257111
Translation is more than just an exact shift from one language to another. Some shit doesn't work in english. Commie understands this.
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>>136257111

I don't personally mind when a fansub makes a line funny for us instead of letting us know what the pun directly translates to, sometimes.

I'm sure some people would say that's a sin, but, "Long time no knee" is pretty great.
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>>136257197
Never go Commie. No exceptions.
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horrible should at least mark the funi streams

their quality is unwatchable
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>>136257322
Always go Commie. Without exceptions.
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>>136257333
If the 720 is 330 mb ish it's CR if it's 450 ish it's Funi. Not hard.
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>>136257197
I have to thank Commie for motivating me to start learning japanese with their memesprouting subs.
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>>136257383
fuck off herks
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>>136256023
because they're still holding onto old fansubbers

that being said, I miss subbers like mazui
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can we agree that Commie are the worst fansub ever?
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>>136257523
I think most of us can agree that you're a newfag.
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>>136257523
There was that one group that didn't even know basic grammar. I can't remember the name anymore.
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>>136257523
Go watch some Hadena.
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>>136257441
Mazui was never a good group.
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>>136257570
>that one group
>one
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>>136257570
[gg]?
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>>136256023
>Why do people hate funi
They translated the character's name (Domon Tsutomu) as Thanks, Tsutomu
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>>136257585
Neither was Trump
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>mfw crunchy and funi are actually allowing horrible in order to stop 'illegal funsubbing'; then they'll try to rid horrible soon too so they get a larger market
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>>136256023
>>136257627
They also translated right as left.
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>>136257585
I like their subs for angelbeats, they were fucking great compared to funi/crunchy

fuck I wish i was back in those days again..
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>>136257704
remember their Seraph of the end subtitles? me neither

(they were so bad)
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>>136255653
Got to ask, did you manage to keep a straight face while posting this bait?
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>>136257703
I heard this two years ago
still waiting
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>>136256926
The only good to come from Bandai pulling out of the US is that I'll never have to see that font again.
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>>136257770
>angle bees

Coalguys best
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i honestly never understood the hate some of you have for commie.

the only problem i see with them is that they sometimes delay episodes for ever.
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>>136256023
>>136257704
I don't even need to say anything about this one.
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>>136257389
How does Funi somehow manage to look worse than CR with more filesize?
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>>136257703
Piracy can't be killed.
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>>136257913
I don't get it.
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>>136257913
I've seen people on /a/ actually support TL notes so you will probably have to
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>>136257929
They can't encode for shit.
Apparently most of their trouble stems from them hardsubbing the files in a completely fucked up way.
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Fansubs fucking sucked since the 90's. I'm glad it's over.

I'm happy to see the fansubber drama die along with their subs too.
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>Fansubs completely fall off the face of the Earth
>CR gains complete monopoly of the market
>FOR $5 MORE YOU CAN GET STYLISED SUBS AND OP/ED TRANSLATIONS
JUST
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Here we mourn the fallen.

[bss]
[eclipse]
[static-subs]
[mendoi]
[conclave]
[m33w]
[gg]
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>>136257570
Hadena?
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I'll just leave this here.
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>>136257913
So do you think they should invent a whole new joke a la Commie?
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>>136258054
>JUST
Fuck off.
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>>136256513
Just help [&] with some OVA or some shit.
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>>136258069
u forgot [utw]
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>>136258069
kaylith
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>>136258107
That's what translators do.
There's a reason people say: To explain a joke is to kill the joke.
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>>136258069
UTW
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>>136258013
They are at least going to be transitioning to softsubs this year. Of course, they'll probably find new ways to fuck up in the process.
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>>136258069
[Mazui]
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>>136258054
>JUST
Get out.
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I guess it's about time I finally learned proper moonspeak.
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>>136258069
gg and BSS are the only good groups in that list
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>>136258146
They typesetted some of the locodol Christmas special OVA signs for me, and they'll do the rest + edit my script for the BD when that comes out.
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>>136256023
I wonder
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>>136258184
really Funi is going to go Soft Subs?
Thank god
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hi guys, we'll save you
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>>136258265
>really Funi is going to go Soft Subs?
Or so they said. With no promises towards any ETA whatsoever.
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>>136257993

TL notes are fine if there's any wordplay related humor or other things that don't translate at all. Though, it's very much preferable to stick them at the beginning or end of the episode instead of cluttering the screen.
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>>136257841
well it's already worked to a degree to be honest, I'm guessing they must have alot more viewers now fansubbers are gone

>>136257948
It can, it already has to a degree. Now with TPP it's only a matter of the policies being regulated within countries.
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>>136258250
You released as Mori, you prick, giving them no credit.

also locodol is for fat niggers
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>>136258166
I'm sorry, but as a non-english speaker, when I used to watch US movies with subtitles I expected a literal translation, not some localized shit. Luckily now I'm fluent enough to watch them without subs
Same thing I expect now with anime subs. All other kind of ""translations"" are trash
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>>136257905
I have a long standing grudge against them for the german in Girls Und Panzer.
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>>136258265
http://www.funimation.com/forum/showthread.php?9450-Please-implement-soft-subtitles
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>>136258054
It's fucking shit ay.

>>136258111
>>136258208
FUCK
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>>136258310
>TL notes are fine if there's any wordplay related humor
No.
TL notes are fine if some untranslatable nuance in the dialogue is at least semi-important to the goings-on in the anime.
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>>136258310
>TL notes are fine if there's any wordplay related humor
But then the humor's lost
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>>136258322
TPP is straight out of a dystopian novel, I refuse to believe that humanity won't stop it.
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>>136257783
I wish I could forget.
She's saying demons and vampires.
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>>136258310
But the joke is there to humor you, if it doesn't humor you, it's pointless. A good translation is one that can translate the pun while keeping it close to the original pun.
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[UPDATE]

Soft subtitles are still coming with FunimationNow, but will not be available at launch due to timing even in May. We will begin switching over shows after launch, but I do not know the timing. We could possibly look into keeping track of which shows have soft subtitles on the forum at that time.


FUCK FUNIMATION
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>>136258336
I refuse to believe anyone who knows two languages can honestly condone literal translations. It's so fucking bizarrely stupid.
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>>136258336
I'm sorry, but as a non-english speaker, I very quickly found out that literal translations are shit.
I remember reading a book passage and I actually KNEW what the original said and that the original was actually funny - but that was just because I was already fluent in English.
The translation made no sense whatsoever in German and I would have fired the translator immediately if it had been up to me.
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>>136258303
I download HS to watch my shows when the source is CR.

>>136258329
I gave him credit in the torrent description, and they're releasing the OVA BD with either just their group name only or put first in the tag.
I've also let other groups use my entire scripts without any credit anywhere. You've probably even watched some of them, it's not any kind of big deal.
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>>136256023
How could people possibly hate Funi?
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You know why fansubbing is dead?

>Before HorribleSubs
Nobody is subbing Lupin. Only subs are from an Italian anon doing things at a reasonable but slowish pace with the Italian dubs. That or streaming subs. No Commie, no nothing.
>After HorribleSubs
Over 100 episodes of the original Lupin series subbed including the new series episodes.


Fansubbers did it to themselves. They have all sorts of anime that isn't subbed or has poor quality subs at their disposal but don't want to bother because it won't give them any e-cred or they are flat out lazy. Hell those translators could be doing some real good manga too.


HorribleSubs and Funi were the end-goal to subtitles. And I can assure you the people complaining about it don't remember what it's like to have to wait until the first cour of Code Geass was done to get a whole batch pack. It wasn't until season 2 of that show we got weekly subs because everyone and their mothers were subbing it and even then that was at the cost of many other obscure shows that I know didn't get their first episodes subbed until like the third week of the season.
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>>136258238
give me an feeling so complicated
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>>136256513
btw, don't bother. fansubbing isn't worth it
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>>136258386
The humor is only then just found. Otherwise it's completely not understood at all. The other option is to try to make up your own wordplay joke which is fucking stupid because you end up "translating" words as words that are not being said. People who do understand what should be the words will point it out and basically people just do this for attention. Please fucking stop. You are not an adaptive scriptwriter for Funimation. You're a faggot with too much free time and a hobby.
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>>136258423
>but will not be available at launch due to timing even in May
does this have something to do with Funi staff not knowing how to time
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>>136258303

except any show that isn't simulcast.

Ajin is being subbed by kamifs, which plasters their name everywhere.

What are the people at underwater doing? I really thought they were going to pick up Ajin.
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>>136256023
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>>136258303
That's a relief. Good to know someone is there for us.
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>>136258519
How will I watch my little girls shows without fansubs?
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>>136258069
Watching anime just isn't the same anymore.
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>>136258562
daiz can't do illegal shit anymore now that he's legit
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>>136258510
I remember back when there were 5+ fansub groups jumping on one popular anime for the e-cred while several interesting anime were completely ignored.
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>>136258510
did you ever consider the possibility of no one caring about those shows
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>>136258395
>TPP is straight out of a dystopian novel, I refuse to believe that humanity won't stop it.
You forget anon, think of our government as a machine - people are only cogs in that machine, but effectively that machine seems to have a mind of it's own.

I know this because I've already seen it in our legal systems. No human by themselves would agree to this, they've made the laws out of fear of losing their jobs.
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>>136258519
[killing fansubbing intensifies]
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>>136255487
And i have to say i am glad it is. Reason?

Thanks to Crunchyroll, finally, after 20 years i can get up to date Detective Conan subs without waiting months for translation and resorting to german youtube release with faggot narrating.

So if the retarded groups all worth of which is egomania and bickering are gone and the product i want is released consistently and reliably by commercial media - i am glad.

ESPECIALLY as your screen illustrates, with it covering most of shows airing each season.

In fact, even if nyaa and horrible subs die and one would have to pay for official release - its still step forward from the past.
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>>136258540
>because you end up "translating" words as words that are not being said.
That's precisely the job of an entertainment translator.
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>want a series
>it's not on CR or Netflix
>go to download it

>Commie subs

Fansubbing killed itself.

Memeshit subs everywhere. At least stream sites bother with fairly direct translations.
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>>136258602
>frogcancer

Fuck off.
>>>/reddit9k/
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>>136258602
Dumb frogposter. Kill yourself.
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>>136258597
>nobody caring about Lupin
Fuck you.
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>>136258540
>which is fucking stupid because you end up "translating" words as words that are not being said.
You do this in normal translation no matter what. Learn a second language, you'll understand.
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>>136258540
>you end up "translating" words as words that are not being said
Do you have any idea how japanese works?
Languages aren't the exact same, and so translation cant be the exact same, if it tries to be, you end up with the shit that is machine translation
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>>136256513
Well, I mean the point is to do something you enjoy, right?
Going after stuff that nobody else does is a noble goal and a nice sentiment, but at the end of the day you're not responsible for every untranslated gem, nor should you feel obligated to seek things out just because they need a translation more.

Translate what you like. It's a hobby, enjoying the whole process should be more important than customer service.
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>>136258540
>The other option is to try to make up your own wordplay joke which is fucking stupid because you end up "translating" words as words that are not being said.
But then the joke gets across, and people who don't know Japanese can laugh too? Why would anyone want that to happen? Fuck outta here.
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What exactly killed fansubbing? Why now? Why are fansubbing groups only recently dying?
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Wait, there are people who actually support "localizations" and dislike proper translations + TL notes (where needed)?
I thought Commie was doing that just to fuck with us.
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>>136258656
i never saw a meme in their subs.
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>>136258704
It's shit.
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>>136258602
Poor choice of image but I know what you mean. Everyone's just looking for themselves, selfishness can destroy humanity.
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>>136258750
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>>136258746
This fucker right here >>136258519
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>>136258589
What a loser. What would he want to be legit for?
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>>136258725
To be fair to him, technical translations (for manuals) don't normally do this, unless it's to or from American English, because Americans need additional notions of:
>Careful: Oven turns HOT when turned on. DO NOT TOUCH THE OVEN WHILE IT IS HOT. RISK OF SERIOUS BURNS!.
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>>136258748
>and dislike proper translations
I don't dislike proper translations. Proper translations are localisations.
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>>136258704
Sucks, huh?
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>>136257993
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>>136258421
Have you ever opened an actual translation of something like the Iliad or the Odissey? Do you think you could read that without TL notes?

Stupid fucks.
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>>136258748
in that knee one. i prefer commies. i don't even get the joke with the "official subs"
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>>136258746
weren't some fansubs released just today
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>>136258819
https://www.fakku.net/forums/feedback-suggestions-and-support/fakku-state-of-the-union-2016
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>>136258750
If you watch a show commie considers shit, their subs will be shit.
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one good thing about this: no more 10bit anime. instead glorious 8bit anime with hardware support.
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>>136258825
>Proper translations are localisations
You should dislike them then. They're shit.
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>>136258847
I like how you jump from puns to "translating the illiad", completely ignoring every single difference between the two examples
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>>136258594
>I remember back when there were 5+ fansub groups jumping on one popular anime for the e-cred while several interesting anime were completely ignored.
>several interesting anime

The only anime I remember not having subs were the terrible obscure 'edgy' ones.

Any shows that were good, did end up having subs. Plus subbers tended to organise who was subbing who by around 2011. Free market, etc, etc, etc.
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>>136258504
omg that is an abomination
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>>136258884
Sushi Police of all shows is getting fansubbed this season.
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>>136258303
Kill yourself.

Reminder these fucks killed Mangatrader.
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>>136258847
why the hell would I read some old Greek shit
better yet, why are you comparing some long Greek poem with fucking anime scriptwriting
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>>136258888
fuck off aers, go back to jerking off to precure
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>>136258847
Why are you ripping my statement out of context?
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>>136258898
Do you like banding? Do you like shit hardsubbed video with the wrong colours and framerate? That's that you get with 50% of the official releases.
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>>136258965
I'm not a pedophile
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>>136258748
I don't get it either, but if it's softsub then I can still fix it myself.
Funi can die in a fire.
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>>136258750
Literally almost every line subbed is a meme in Commie subs.

People have been bitching about it forever, but Commie still does it. I'm not even sure why at this point. Do they like wasting their time this much? Do they like ruining the experience of watching the shit when memes are constantly thrown in your face?
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>>136258980
sounds like you just need to sit farther away from the screen
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>>136258987
Gross
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>>136258924
Did you not watch it? Those top subs were for something on a cellphone screen. But for some reason they got stuck there for like 5 minutes
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>>136258196
Ah, the memories
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How do we make Funi go bankrupt?
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>>136258510
This. Fansubbing groups have shit taste.
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This will eventually allow the San Franciscan menace to ruin anime forever with their 'localization' techniques
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>>136259033
Bitching about commie is a meme.
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>>136259033
that's their style of branding. it's their way of saying fuck you we do whatever we want.

plus, can you expect that much when your name is herkz and you dropped out of college to fansub? cut commie some slack
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>>136258980
atleast the softsubbed horriblesubs videos are perfectly good nowadays. upscaling has improved so much that i only download 720p releases now, nothing else even though i have a 1080p tv.
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>>136259033
I think you're exaggerating a bit
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>>136259073
And this will have no effect on anybody that knows japanese.

You'll rot in the grave you dug yourself, EOP.
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>>136258069
[damedame]
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>>136259112
What do you expect? He probably never watched a commie show.
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>>136259098
>it's their way of saying fuck you we do whatever we want.
Fuck you too and your 'brand', thanks for making fansubs unwatchable.
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>>136258847
I agree. If I really cared about getting the original joke and not "losing the humor," I would learn Japanese. TL notes are the best way for non-Jap speakers to get the joke.
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>>136259108
>atleast the softsubbed horriblesubs videos are perfectly good nowadays
But they aren't. There are usually a couple of shows a season that have fucked up decimation on them, thanks to whatever shitshow of a processing pipeline CR has.
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>>136258898
>one good thing about this: no more 10bit anime.
While I liked 10bit, I can agree it killed subbers.

That put off alot of people when it started

"hurr you'll eat whatever we cooked up because fuck you we know best"

It's like the betamax v vhs shit all over

At the end of the day, consumers rule.
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>>136258821

If you weren't a complete insufferable retard, you'd realize that's to avoid lawsuits that are only litigious because miscreants felt like ruining it for everybody.

Not because Americans don't know that ovens are hot. Douche.
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>>136259182
unwatchable because fansubs don't exist anymore :>
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>>136259213
>>136259213
subbers were complete fags back then
hurr durr we only support mpc-hc u mad hipsters?
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>>136259112
>>136259149
When I was a naive about sub groups I watched them a lot, and started getting really angry when I kept seeing memes all over multiple series I was watching, and then found out which group was doing it and what a goddamn coincidence it was all Commie.
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>>136258912
You mean the two completely different cultures?
Idiot.
>>136258964
The Iliad doesn't have notes because it's long.
Dumb faggot.
>>136259200
Even more so because one also wants to understand the culture, not just laugh at a new joke like a retard.
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>>136259213
>While I liked 10bit, I can agree it killed subbers.
How? Fansubbing was still in it's prime at that point.
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>>136259208
you're probably giving too much credit to their pipeline. they don't do much so they rely on their providers to give them something good.
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Just what to say that Charlotte official subs were worse than a lot of fansubs for other shows including Hadena's subs.
(Hadena sometimes did shows that nobody else did)
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>>136259112
>I think you're exaggerating a bit
anon..
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>>136258238
>Hadena
Has it really been that long?
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>>136259295
So you watched shit anime when you were still a newfag. Got it.
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>>136259228
>Not because Americans don't know that ovens are hot.
The lawsuits would be ineffective if there wasn't a reasonable chance an american didn't know an oven was hot.

>Your honor I intend to sue the oceans for being wet
Not even in America, because there's no reasonable expectation of water not being wet.
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>>136259295
>and started getting really angry when I kept seeing memes all over multiple series I was watching
kek
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>>136259296
>You mean the two completely different cultures?
No I mean that translating classic literature and translating a single pun in an anime are two completely different things you dumb shit.
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Why do people actually prefer honorifics in subs in the majority of cases? Most anime viewers don't even notice that their usage in subtitles is rarely even consistent with what is being said. I've lost count of the number of times that I have heard something like -dono and the subs have -sama instead.
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>>136259228
I did not mean to imply anything of the sort.

Do you have a sore spot there?
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>>136259424
No, they're not if your public are dumb americunts.
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>horriblesubs
>commie
these guys are employed by crunchyroll to force people to use streaming services, because nobody can watch their shit
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>>136259468
>Why do people actually prefer honorifics in subs in the majority of cases?
Usually because they grew up with them.
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>>136258238
>Rub a dub dub, thanks for the grub!
Every fucking time.
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>>136259468
because they're massive weebs
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>>136257276
>Oregairu
Only if you can handle the memes
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>>136259468
There are certain things that are pointless to directly translate, like honorifics and "onii-chan", because every goddamn person depraved enough to watch chinese cartoons at least knows what those mean.
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>>136259297
It turned away newbs that would make up the majority of people on/a/ now.

Newfags just couln't do 10 bit, and horrible gathered alot more steam after that. Plus some anons were pissed off at subbers attitude, it was like "well what is the point of supporting a community/group when they don't give a shit about what we want?"

It was the beginning of the decline. Maybe when video playback programs natively playback 10bit it will finally be right to release in 10 bit. Subbers were impatient, thought "this would be a good opportunity to decrease bandwidth issues, storage difficulties, etc"
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>>136259510
>horriblesubs
Horriblesubs is literally a ripping group.
You get the same experience as streaming on CR or Funi but without having to care if your internet can keep up with the stream or not.
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>>136258746
>What exactly killed fansubbing? Why now?

Time for a trip down memory lane!

>2007
You'd wait a week or more for decent subs. Translation was slow.

>2008-2010
Elitistfags sets up shop. Transport raws for everyone! Shows came with closed captions, meaning you could translate from script and not by ear. Fansub turnaround times go from about 7 days to about 72 hours, then 24 hours. Golden age of fansubbing.

>2010
Elitistfags shuts down. No more easy access transport raws.

>2010
Horriblesubs starts ripping Funi, Crunchy, and other 'official' subs within hours of their release. This + shortage of transport raws kills the independent fansubbing scene.

>today
Horrible is all that's left. Many established fansubbers were hired out by Funi and Crunchy anyway.
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>>136259468
Some people are actually deaf.
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>>136259569
But that was a meme in japanese too
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>>136258208
chill desu senpai
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>>136259295
this

9/10 it was fucking commie, every time a blatant meme occured
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>>136257276
>subpar "official" subs
i've never run into this issue

they aren't highschool/college fanlators, they are people getting paid for what they do, so the translations always end up pretty damn good.
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>>136255487
Anime is dead
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>>136259595
no.
you can deband while watching the video.
you can change the style of subs.
you can see shows that aren't available in your country
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>>136258069
[Triad]
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>>136259586
They only started releasing 10bit over 8bit when CCCP had support for it.

VLC couldn't do it well at the time. But that wasn't an issue, because libass wasn't supported by fansubbers either (because it couldn't handle typesetting well at all).

The only people who complained were those who were doing everything wrong to begin with.
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>>136259699
oh, at least in Funi's case, I believe we fix the colors whereas if you watch it on their player it looks washed out
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>>136259685
>they aren't highschool/college fanlators, they are people getting paid for what they do, so the translations always end up pretty damn good.
how many times is this gonna get posted
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>>136259699
You're furthermore proving my point that that anon is wrong
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>there are people who still think 10bit is bad
>there are people who defend localization
>there are people who complain about the filesize
>there are people who complain about the use of honorifics
Sure it's pleb in here.
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>the Japanese get pennies
Maybe five years ago, today the streaming companies' license fees keep increasing because of anime's growing popularity and competition for rights. Im not trying to shill but they definitely factor in potential international revenue when planning shows.
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Meanwhile the translation from Hulu this season ain't that bad.
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>>136259630
How would they even know if the honorifics were totally removed then? This is a poor argument.
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>>136259627
>orrible is all that's left. Many established fansubbers were hired out by Funi and Crunchy anyway.
its not only that's left. not yet.
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>>136256513
I love you.
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>>136257322
Symphogear is an exception

those music subs were great
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>>136259798
That's forbidden love and you should feel bad about it.
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>>136259760
Forgot
>there are people who watch dubs
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