Why are they so perfect together?
Kamachi only made her a fairy so mikotofags wouldn't feel threatened, am I right?
>>136178724
Misakis is the only way,he should ask her to see if fix the memory problem can be fixed.
Just imagine if she regained her human size. The Touma bowl would be instantly over and other shippers would have to fuck off from the series.
Can Touma's pinky fit into her vagina?
>>136179238
That might kill othichan.
>>136178724
Touman doesn't look very happy here.
>>136178724
>implying she's Kamijou's
>>136179927
>talking about kamijou's girls when one of your own is currently being patted on the head by another man
You have this one volume to redeem yourself, stiyl.
>>136178724
Still not cuter than Mikoto x Touma.
>>136179238
>>136180466
>“Your true value is different from that of a Magic God who has to determine superiority by the presence or absence of power. Isn’t that right? So feeling ashamed that you lack strength is pure foolishness. Your value shows itself once you accept what you lack and think about what to do without that strength.”
>When he heard that, Kamijou’s eyes finally narrowed softly.
>He reached a hand toward Othinus and rubbed her small head with his fingertips.
>“You are being too friendly, human.”
>“Sorry. But make sure to remind me.”
>Kamijou spoke without shame.
>“Remind me that I too have something he can’t defeat and something I can’t back down on.”
>“Hmph.”
>Othinus gave a snort but let him do as he pleased.
Cuter and healing.
>>136179238
Yes that's called stomache deformation
>And that's how mommy tortured, murdered, and broke daddy's sanity over the course of eons before he gave in to sweden syndrome
Just not the kind of cute stories they could tell later
>>136181039
dumb frogposter
>>136178724
Kamisato is coming for her.
>>136181159
Autistic memeposter
>>136181476
Go back to your board retard.
>>136179927
Don't make me call T-Man
He'll fuck yo ass up
>>136181514
Every board uses sadfrog, moron
>>136178724
Othinus isn't special. The only reason she has an understanding with Touma is because Touma was thrust into a situation of infinite hell that forced him to spend time with her. Any girl would have reached a similar understanding if they spent countless thousands of years with Touma.
>>136181598
Not here. Fuck off and kill yourself.
>>136181649
That's a completely retarded logic. It's like saying any character would have been the main character in Index if they had IB.
>>136181762
>any character would have been the main character in Index if they had IB.
That sounds entirely plausible. Plot armor remains the same and the person will be in Crowley's plans no matter what.
>>136181649
She is special because no one else will be able to have a relationship with Touma on that level.
>>136181905
Wrong.
>Any girl would have reached a similar understanding if they spent countless thousands of years with Touma.
>>136181653
>Not here
Wrong again
>Fuck off and kill yourself.
How about you?
>>136181762
>It's like saying any character would have been the main character in Index if they had IB.
But they could have been. IB is the only reason Touma gets into the plot.
>>136181762
>>136181810
Makes sense Touma is the main character because of IB. But because Touma is the one with IB and the main character how is he different compared to the other main characters.
Othinus is best.
>>136182087
Frogposting is a bannable offense here you stupid newfag piece of shit.
>>136182111
More or less. Having IB means naturally getting drawn into magic vs science mess, so it'll play out the same one way or another. Crowley will make sure that it does.
>>136182082
Generalizing like that makes you retarded. In the first place, only a very limited selection of characters have or had the power to manipulate time and space in that way, and only one of them had a motivation strong enough to keep looping infinite universes.
I love Othinus....and hate everyone else! Especially Saten and Biribiri!
>>136182435
Use your imagination, genius. The person who spends time with Touma doesn't necessarily have to replace or be like Othinus. The point is in a scenario that has Touma spending time with a girl for fucktons for years will reach a similar understanding. Shit happens when a boy and girl spend that much time together. They could be strangers or merely friends or even enemies, but as time progresses and their situation unfolds they will gravitate towards bonding, then intimacy .
>>136182626
>Saten
Please leave.
>>136182180
Nowhere in the rules, newfriend
Now stop shitposting
>>136182761
Nonsense. Saten-san is the best thing in Railgun and Biribiri is the best thing in Index.
>>136182781
Lurk the fuck more, crossboarder. Or better yet, keep frogposting and see how mods will erase your cancerous ass.
>>136182795
He said he hated saten though.
I came to best girl's defense.
>>136182816
I've been here since 2009, idiot
Now stop shitposting and discuss anime
>>136182823
But Saten-san is the worst thing in Index and Biribiri is the best thing in Railgun!
>>136182823
Would Accel and Saten make a good couple?
>>136182852
https://desustorage.org/a/search/filename/frog/deleted/deleted/
https://desustorage.org/a/search/text/pepe/deleted/deleted/
Sure thing, you lying retarded newfag.
>>136182626
Biribiri is love. I pity your poor and limited taste.
>>136182890
>>136182963
The only conclusion that can be drawn is that Index and Railgun have fallen far into shit, but people still like them somehow.
>>136182939
They were banned for shitposting, idiot
Like you are now
>>136182707
It doesn't work that way. You just can't strip context, characters' personalities and development to trivialize an event in a story.
>>136182963
Biribiri is ideal
>>136183072
Let's face it. The only thing going for Othinus is that she is a Magic God.
>>136183058
Posting pepe is shitposting, you subhuman.
>>136183058
Nah.
>>136182963
>new light mikoto
pretty good senpai
>>136183131
Just like the only thing Fiamma had was having the holy right.
>>136182707
Does not apply to misaki though
>>136183262
Kek.
>>136182707
But alas, not a girl will be able to reach a similar understanding with Touma because the story would never allow for it. It did for Othinus, so she is special.
>>136183132
>Posting pepe is shitposting
No. Wasting time discussing nonsense is shitposting.
>>136183136
Yep
>>136183372
>a single girl*
>>136183058
your new is showing faggot
>>136183229
Sure, but that has no bearing on the matter regarding any girl could reach similar understanding with Touma in the aforementioned situations/scenarios.
Anons please, forget the pepes and lets return to the usual waifuposting.
Pick 10 from this chart.
>>136183407
You're not even denying the fact you got proven wrong, shitstain. Go back to your board.
>>>136183372
You can put it that way, but know that it's a cheap method in order to have that undertaking.
>>136183477
This is mine.
>>136183433
>any girl could have been Othinus if she was in her place instead
Do you realize how stupid you sound?
birdway is best girl
>>136183591
Already responded to that post.
>>136183624
Then we are at an impasse.
>>136183492
Just like killing 10031 clones was a cheap method for Accel to have a dark and deep backstory that sets the premise of his character and to which he starts developing from.
>>136183485
Been here since 09 m8
And nothing proved me wrong
>>136183831
You only keep embarrassing yourself.
>>136183702
Okay.
YAMEROOOOO
Stop crying about a dead meme you fucking autists post Misaki instead.
>>136178724
>Kamachi only made her a fairy so mikotofags wouldn't feel threatened, am I right?
Mikotofags never mattered though. Kamachi can keep pandering to her shippers here and there, but the meaningful development goes to actually relevant girls.
>>136184160
my nigga
>>136184489
... He-hey guys, what about hidden breasts-chan? She'd be a good fit with Touma. R-right?
Are we still on New Testament?
I haven't read Index in like a year
>>136185598
She's a perfect fit but it would take multiple miracles for it to happen.
>>136185672
NT14 was released in october or november, forgot which. Next one is coming in april I think.
>>136181039
But Othinus is kind
>>136185598
Hidden breasts-chan is taken by hamazura though.
SAVING this embarrassing thread with best girl.
>>136187153
Frenda is shit. No need to make this thread shittier.
How long should the inevitable timeskip be?
>>136187209
You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how awful it may be.
>>136187299
I wouldn't really like one. If kamachi actually does it, it shouldn't be more than a few years.
GODDESS TIER
Othinus
Will-tan
Orsola
Itsuwa
Misaki
TOP TIER
Seria
WORST
Kanzaki
Kongou
10077
Fukiyose
10032
Saiai
HIGH TIER
Last Order
Dolly
Himegami
Yomikawa
Laura
Awaki
Saten
Misuzu
Nephtys
MID TIER
Maria
Mikoto
Sasha
Leivinia
Mugino
Arisa
Umidori
Fremea
LOW TIER
Lessar
Index
Vento
Uiharu
Rikou
Komoe
Mitsuari
SHIT TIER
Marian
Oriana
Kuroko
Hyouka
Angelene
Patricia
Niang Niang
WORSE THAN SHIT TIER
Frenda
Sherry
Haruue
Banri
All of Kamisato's harem
>>136187462
Pretty solid besides one glaring mistake.
>>136187500
Nah, she's right where she belongs.
>>136187559
Cease your bullying at once. Frenda is a miracle of the universe.
>>136187614
Frenda is a rotting corpse that no one misses.
>>136187646
What a fucking slut
>>136178823
But in turn she disappears
>>136187646
>rotting corpse
They never found it again anon. Anything is possible.Besides season 3 airing.
>>136186025
u realized that was a different hidden breasts-chan right?
>>136188242
I know senpai, they're both known for it.
Recently the Raildex universe has been so dull.
Ever since the Othinus arc ended it feels like we are just going aimless towards nowhere.
What is the current arc even about? Magic Gods? Othinus Fairy adventures? Touma vs Kamisato? It has no direction. Kamachi officially lost his touch. We will never have greatness like WW3 arc again.
>>136190353
Just give it some time, the first half of OT felt pretty dull until it all started to come together in volume 13 onwards.
Frenda is for rape
Misaki is for rape
Othinus is for hot-gluing/rape
Orianna is for rape
Orsola is for love
>>136187299
Story is advancing a few days at a time so no large time skip. Series would end when Touma graduated high school.
>>136190353
I really dislike everything since Othinus
Kamisato's power is just...no
And all the hype about magic gods was fucking gay
They're supposed to be these next tier villains after screwing around with magicians and espers, then they all just get wrecked
>>136191558
I object frenda rape, but Orsola is definitely for loving.
>>136191800
Pray that this is an accelerator volume that helps NT pick up like volume 15 did for OT.
>>136191884
Kamachi had better stop playing Kubo and adding 9 new characters every volume
The cast is diverse enough and developing them would be amazing to watch in itself
No need to plod straight to the "Kamijou league of justice storms the windowless building, gets their asses kicked by Keikaku man, Touma goes down for the count, bullshit inner battle/argument with invisible thing, then over the top final battle"
>>136192105
The side characters are often a hell of a lot better than the main ones though
>>136192511
>cute lab rat cake
please don't hurt her or kill her off kamachi
>>136192592
He's already hurt her, and she's all too likely to die at some point or another like every other Kihara
>>136192663
Speaking of interesting side characters, I think the kiharas deserve a bit more attention than they're getting.
I'd like another anti-hero kihara like kagun to show up and fuck shit up.
>>136192663
Oh she almost has to get killed but she could easily become the next major science side foe.
>>136192793
Considering we have a Kihara who's trying to surpass what Kiharas are it could happen. Enshuu could go normal hero though depending how often she loads Touma parameters
Why is Hamazura called End of century emperor? Did i miss sometihng when reading LNs?
>>136192930
It's a stupid nickname he gave himself.
>>136193061
Damn there is something really wrong with Frendas head.
Also new railgun when?
>>136193169
End of the month I think, but we have to wait for raws.
STILL waiting for accelerator raws. No one gives a fuck about the poor guy any more. Even in the LN he's been MIA for 4 volumes.
>>136193240
I like Accelerator, but his manga is pretty shit desu senpai
>>136193240
There areKoreanRaws but translator only does Japanese.
>>136193169
>Damn there is something really wrong with Frendas head
Odd turning head drawing?
>>136193275
I'll admit it's not that great but at this point I'll take what I can get since season 3 never.
>>136194212
Maybe it will get better but just having Last Order be rescued by Accelerator who works alone just feels more of the same.
>>136193240
Sniper is cute
CUUUUTE
>>136194510
Spaghetti sniper is too cute, but it's a shame she's going to get obliterated soon.
>>136194570
>Not drawing the stones that are about to be covered by the speech bubble
This shouldn't this funny
>>136194570
Maybe they won't kill her, maybe she'll fake her death like Tsuchimikado did. R-right?
>>136194772
>faking her death when the goggles guy, measure heart, and kakine work with her
Nice one anon. Even if she did, the dark side would still find and eliminate her. This is the future she chose.
>>136194907
Goggles guy will be dead soon and measure heart doesn't look like she cares much. Can't you let a man dream, anon?
>>136194772
This is ITEM they kill their own members why wouldn't they kill someone who messes with Frenda.
>>136194966
what the fuck is with the girl in the dress anyways
Is she with the darkness for shits and giggles? When she reappeared in volume 19 I assumed we'd find out her motivations but we got nothing.
>>136194966
You can dream until the end of the month.
>>136195101
>what the fuck is with the girl in the dress anyways
I'm guessing she really likes money.
>>136195148
She likes Kakine
>>136195265
Who doesn't?
>>136195287
>>136195265
I know she's a bit airheaded but if she liked kakine where was she when he got BTFO by accelerator on two different occasions?
>>136195347
Poor uiharu didn't deserve that level of bullying.
>>136195351
Besides Touma who is gonna stop Accelerator?
>>136195351
You try following two angel wannabes on foot and get back to me on how easy that is
>>136195374
I don't think what happened can be considered bullying. That was more on the lines of Jack Bauer torture.
>>136195380
I didn't mean stop, at least show her face when he is fighting a life or death battle. Maybe convince him to stop.
I just think she doesn't give a fuck.
>>136195449
They were flying away and Kakine's whole plan was that he could maybe beat Accelerator, at no point is it thought she could do anything like that or even slow him down.
Birdway > Misaka > Othinus > The rest
Just saying.
>>136195678
Misaka Worst is the greatest but that's just me.
>>136195678
>Birdway > Misaka > the rest > othinus
fixed.
>>136194570
Who was it again that kill her? its been years since i read vol 15
>the one volume birdway is on the cover for and is heavily featured in is literally one of the worst in the series
wanna explain this birdwayfags
>>136195970
They weren't specific, just that they had eliminated SCHOOL's first sniper 3 days prior to the battle royale.
Since frenda is hurt, saiai is a cool/calm character, and takitsubo is innocent one can assume it was mugino.
>>136196028
Birdway was one of the few good things about that novel.
>>136196063
cool/calm doesn't mean saiai wouldn't attack someone who tried to kill someone on her team mate
>>136195374
Bitch didn't want to tell Kakine where Last Order was. She deserved what she got coming to her.
>>136196028
I think the worst is NT3 but it isn't because of who is on the cover just that framing device of random video and audio devices is boring for a book. Too bad never will be animated as it would become very cool.
>>136196028
There is no Birdway in NT13 cover anon
>>136196100
>Frenda is shit for snitching to school
>Uiharu is shit for not snitching to school
Goddamnit /a/.
>>136196107
Only Iceships is worse than "infodump of shit we already know 80% of, the novel"
>>136196089
True but I still think it will be mugino just for consistency, building her up as a violent character.
It would create some irony that she is getting revenge for frenda and then ends up killing frenda herself.
>>136178724
>why are they so perfect together
Honestly countless worlds and lifetimes with countless years of torture usually does that after a point. Honestly enjoy the broken man that is Touma and the kind Othinus.
>>136196191
There is a high chance she didn't even snitch, and that she got the information forced out using measure heart.
Whenever they reach that part, mugino will look like total shit and the shitposting will commence once again.
>>136196291
>Would have sold them out to Mikoto if her tongue wasn't paralyzed
Nah
>>136196201
OT 11 was pretty bad. I'm always confused by people saying the latest volumes are terrible. I have been enjoying the run from NT6 to NT14. While none have been the individual best in the series it has been in the top tier.
>>136196291
>mugino will look like total shit
She already does. It would make Frenda's death pretty sad though.
>>136196371
Isn't that what railgun has always done, make everything more sad of a situation?
>>136196343
NT11 was a bit of a dip in quality and there's been a lot of average ones, but yeah there's barely any bad volumes.
>>136196414
The whole friendship with saten thing is setting up frenda to be innocent and the victim.
>>136178724
you have no idea what you're talking about my dude
>>136187462
GODDESS TIER
Mikoto
Kuroko
WORSE THAN SHIT TIER
Othinus
Will-tan
Orsola
Itsuwa
Misaki
Seria
WORST
Kanzaki
Kongou
10077
Fukiyose
10032
Saiai
Last Order
Dolly
Himegami
Yomikawa
Laura
Awaki
Saten
Misuzu
Nephtys
Maria
Mikoto
Sasha
Leivinia
Mugino
Arisa
Umidori
Fremea
Lessar
Index
Vento
Uiharu
Rikou
Komoe
Mitsuari
Marian
Oriana
Hyouka
Angelene
Patricia
Niang Niang
Frenda
Sherry
Haruue
Banri
All of Kamisato's harem
>>136196028
Do people really not like NT2 that much because of the infodump? I honestly liked it more than NT1 and NT3.
>Touma, Hamazura, and Accelerator finally all together.
>Drunk Touma.
>Hamazura and Accelerator finally get formally introduced to the Magic Side.
>Fun little snippets of SoL. Fremea and Birdway arguing, WORST and LO visiting, Mugino and Takitsubo visiting, Accelerator and Tsuchimikado talking, Itsuwa going to jail, etc.
>A glimpse at seeing Touma, Hamazura, and Accelerator working together.
>>136196343
>While none have been the individual best in the series it has been in the top tier.
NT11 is probably the best written novel in the series. NT9 is pretty high as well. It's kind of amazing how great NT is past volume 5 considering how shit the first 5 were.
>>136196425
Maybe bad is the wrong word just nothing in it that, stands out. It just shuffles people around and is set up for more interesting things.
>>136196490
The problem is all the stuff you mentioned makes up about 20-30 pages and the infodump is the rest.
>>136196490
This. i really hyped that volume with Touma return and Accelerator, Hamazura given explanation to magic side
>>136196490
I don't really have a problem with NT 2. However coming after WW3 it takes a bit of time to set up all the pieces again after having been knocked down.
>>136196491
>NT11 is probably the best written novel in the series.
Ehhhh
>considering how shit the first 5 were.
There's nothing wrong with NT4 and 5, and personally I thought NT1 was ok at least.
>>136196491
>NT4 is shit
>NT11 best written
I know I'm being baited but I feel compelled to give the (you) and a reaction image
>>136196490
The parts between the infodump were pretty great but that was only a small part. The Kanzaki fight was also pretty boring. I'm guessing Kamachi put the infodump in there for people that only started reading this when NT started.
>>136196491
>NT 11 is best written
>>136196504
You know im right.
>>136196570
What was it again that Kanzaki doing in that flying castle?
>>136196628
>positions reversed
you broke my immersion
>>136196614
>>136196569
>>136196568
>NT11 is shit meme
I pity people on /a/ sometimes.
>>136196645
fighting a girl that willingly allowed someone to turn her into a fucking drum
>>136196673
Repeating yourself won't make it good Misakifag
>>136196568
I think NT 5 is the thing that started becoming good, NT 4 besides learning about the Kihara's it did not have anywhere near the same excitement as Battle Royal and because it was the same format it just feels worse than it probably is.
>>136196673
No one said NT11 is shit, it's just not the best written.
>>136196694
Yeah but why was she fighting Mjolnir in the first place
>>136196716
You're not the same guy who argues NT4 isn't good because we didn't know the characters in it "unlike in Battle Royale" are you? Besides if you're not reading Index for the side characters you're doing it wrong already.
>>136196731
Correct me if I'm wrong but kanzaki was working to stop the castle from dropping from within but mjolnir opposed her and got beat.
>>136196725
I think the later books in general are better written, even if the earlier books so far are more exciting.
>>136196708
And posting reaction pics won't validate your shit taste either.
>>136196725
Someone said so earlier, and people do tend to find it a shit novel on /a/. But in any case, what do you think the best written novel is then?
>>136196656
Deal with it.
>>136196673
But its shit anon, nobody cares about Misaki. Can you explain why its best written?
>>136196761
No, not the same Anon. However having Group did ground the story a bit in terms of someone to identify with and was great with Hamazura who was also new. Not sure what the problem was exactly. Touma being there it seemed like it needed to focus more on him or just not have him be there at all. I was interested in this other city that was trying to take on Academy City. I thought the fighting tournament at the start was interesting. I think I found the beginning of the book more interesting compared to the end. So overall feels like an average story.
>>136196935
So all the shit with Marian, Kagun and the rest of the Kiharas was just average to you? We already knew this since you liked NT11 more than the rest but you might have shit taste
>>136196890
>Clear story structure with great pacing and story progression.
>Clear character motivations, strong emotional core
>A certain amount of mystery
>great twist at the end
>a glimpse at pre-amnesia Touma
>No drawn out retarded fight
The only negative I can think of was Touma showing up to save the day, which was highly unoriginal but it made sense so I can forgive it for that.
>>136196804
It might be an "easy" answer but I say volume 15. Not just for the way he handled the battles, but because he managed to neatly combine hamazura's decision to protect, accelerator's conflict with kakine, and all of the smaller plotlines with GROUP and ITEM.
I think NT11 is up there but OT15 just felt like it packed a punch. It's probably one of two or three volumes I can go back and reread without getting bored of it.
>>136196890
NT11 wasn't shit at all. Getting her own volume seemed questionable at the time but it was pretty enjoyable.
>>136197027
Not the Anon that liked NT11 the best. I think Marian was fine and the end with Kagun was good but large stretches in the middle where I didn't care about her. The rest of the Kiharas were just that, the rest of the Kiharas. As a group they are interesting in NT4 you have too many to care much so kid not Kihara and fake wheelchair Kihara just get lost as generic villains. The dog and the latest one at least had some buildup. But the big take away from the volume is oh Kihara's are really an important thing. So not saying the volume is bad but more setup compared to payoff.
But it is just my opinion.
>>136196804
Should be obvious. Good way to realistically "fight" a god, good character exploring, nice ideas all around. NT10 kinda shat the bed and the stuff brought up in NT9 is ignored more than it should be, but that's the later volume's faults not 9.
>>136197220
NT9 is second best for me. My problem with it is that it goes too far. Othinus and Touma spent a million year fighting eachother, I mean come on. Also the constant reviving and the constant changing of the world makes the characters feel kind of redundant, kind of breaks suspension of disbelief.
>>136197220
What didn't you like about NT10? Feels like it is the resolution of NT9 for Othinus but maybe not for Touma.
>>136197524
Not him but the "boss rush" wasn't up to par. We could have done without the rounds involving the agnese forces, the two russian nuns, and the american troops.
I know it was supposed to feel like he was against the whole world but I would much rather have longer sequences for more interesting/important characters.
>>136197504
It might not have been a full million years, just a long ass time. The reviving and recreating the worlds only made non Touma and Othinus characters redundant, if you were looking for BLAU character development it was the wrong place, but it didn't cheapen anything with Othinus and Touma.
>>136197524
What this guy said >>136197649 I liked some parts of NT10, but they kind of breezed through a lot of the fights after it had been hyped up as a boss rush volume and about Touma facing against the world, if I hadn't heard anything about it going in I might have liked it more.
>>136184420
Touma flat out says that girls like Othinus and Index can never offer him the salvation he desires. You can't gloss over that. It's one thing Mikoto will hold over the rest of the girls forever. Touma kept her ignorant on purpose so he would have a place to go back to and forget about his troubles.
>>136197524
>>136197649
I liked the fight with Mikoto, the fight with Kanzaki, and the stuff with Othinus. Thought the stuff with Accelerator, the nuns and the american troops was bad. I was really disappointed by the stuff with Index and felt that was a letdown.
>>136197753
>Touma flat out says that girls like Othinus and Index can never offer him the salvation he desires.
Because they're magic girls and won't keep him as grounded sure
> It's one thing Mikoto will hold over the rest of the girls forever.
Nice try, no part of what Touma said couldn't have been applied to any other non magic side girl like Himegami or Fukiyose.
>>136197786
I don't know why people dislike the Accelerator fight so much. I get that maybe they don't like that he loses yet again but that fight was honestly pretty good.
>Accelerator shows that his punches barely phase him anymore.
>Uses his white wings against him.
>Touma has to get more creative in beating him ala bashing his wrist with a rock.
>Showed tsundere Accelerator and revealed that the reason he lost was because he wanted to throw it to protect Touma.
Index confrontation had the potential to be pretty cool since Birdway had her mini-Gungnir but it devolved to headcrab antics. I liked that Birdway actually understood the situation and figured out what it was he was doing though.
>>136197985
I thought all the fights were fun in NT10, except the thor one was a bit stupid maybe. The problem with that novel was that Touma gets beaten to a bloody pulp everytime but seems to completely fine 2 pages later.
>>136197985
Accelerator felt like the same as the Mikoto fight. Even though Accelerator came first and the Mikoto one should have felt redundant it didn't. Using the white wings before had been this huge epic event and by using it against Touma means he is serious about the whole situation but he isn't so it just cheapens the wings, compared to the same fight in WW3. Touma is always creative so not sure that it changed much.
Mikoto fight was the same letting the other person win but was about both Touma and Mikoto where the battle didn't mean anything. It was for Touma about him hating that he threw away a perfect world and Mikoto telling him that he was wrong. For Mikoto it was her finally beating Touma and it being meaningless for her.
The Index confrontation did have such potential but it mostly showed that while Birdway could at least understand what was going on Index was clueless. This was the point it just clicked Index is going to stay pointless for the rest of the story, hopefully that changes.
>>136182111
>>136182338
>>136182096
Except you are wrong.
Read NT13 again.
>>136198085
No matter how badly beat up Touma is, he is always fine or wakes up in the hospital after defeating the primary foe of the volume.
I think Kamachi missed an opportunity with NT10. It would be really nice if he extended the idea of Touma and Othinus (without god powers, in her human form) being hunted and wrote a major arc with them fighting some big bad while still being pursued, playing various factions against each other and regaining allies. It would be a nice change of pace, an opportunity to put >understanding into actual use and a chance for Othinus to redeem herself.
She could also start living with Touma in her human form after that arc for increased lewds and buttfrustration of other girls.
Anyway, most of content after Othinus arc was shit or average at best.
>>136199463
Honestly if she died at the end NT10,she would probably have leave a giant impact.BUT nope gotta make her a fairy that is being hunted by a harem rejecter.
>>136199463
High Priest and doge are post Othinus arc though and they're great
>>136199935
I think that makes a pretty good premise at least for the short term. I'm more interested in Kamisato as an opposite to Touma.
Currently reading NT08. What should I expect for the rest of the arc? I'vespoiledmyself just a bit, but I still have reservations.
>>136197649
I actually liked the 'boss rush' because it was less about the bosses and more about showcasing how Touma usually resolves these fights throughout the entire Index franchise. First fight was a warmup and shows Touma's use of improvised items to augment his lack of actual power (i.e coffee against terrorist), the fight against Agnese is about Touma's dungeon bypass strategy (Italy Arc), Russian forces is about Touma near instinctual ability to dissect the supernatural to know how to effectively counter it (Terra of the left), Kanzaki and co shows his ability to understand people to use it to his advantage and to rely on friends to help out, Five-Over/US/Railgun is about his limitations and weaknesses, Marian is as normal to an actual fight as it gets, the maid Saint is about Touma insane durability and unwillingly to give up despite his injuries, Thor is more about Touma's outside the box thinking, and finally, the fight against Othinus is about living his life correctly. Touma rarely does straight fights as each volumes is usually about getting Touma to the boss so he can deliver the final punch, so I was genuinely puzzled why everyone was expecting Fiamma/Accelerator levels of straight-up fighting from it.
>>136202751
the amount of beating he got was just absurd though
You think Kakine brutalized Uiharu with the mindset that he could have his Dark Matter heal her injuries after the fact?
Maybe Kakine did the same for Frenda?
>>136203082
How would he heal her with dark matter? She is normal human.
>>136178724
Dunno.
I feel like Othinusfags are definetely threatened by Mikoto though, considering your entirety of posts are based around you wanting your shit girl to be better than the Queen.
If you weren't insecure you wouldn't have to mention Mikoto at all, yet you do.
>M-mikoto is shit r-right guys?
>>136178724
>Kamachi
I'm sure it was Miki the guy that is against popular characters dying.
>>136202969
Touma always had insane durability. Maybe it's a side-effect of Heaven's Canceller constant treatment and his pre-cog making him turn with the blows to lessen the damage he takes, so it just seems that absurd? Or it could be like Othinus, his body was just going numb and had no idea just how fucked up his body really is?
>>136203572
Dark Matter's logic is only known to Kakine, so it's possible that he can try things like boosted regen. We can look into Patricia's condition in NT14 for clues as well.
>>136203970
He coudnt heal himself after first fight vs accel so i dont think he can heal others.
>>136197753
Hoky shit this delusion
>>136196028
NT3 didn't had Birdway in the cover.
Threadly reminder that Mikoto is more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
>>136204043
It's under the same shaky logic as Ars Magna (i.e., possible until proven impossible).
I expect Beetle to learn a way at least, since its essence is helping people.
>>136203708
>Queen
Misaki, of course they do.
Purple is my way of life.
>>136203902
lets not forget that touma just got done dealing with infinite hell torture and having his body torn in half and guts spilling out, he probably have resistance in higher degree after that shit
>>136203082
I think kamachi is enough of a madman to actually bring frenda back using dark matter. ITEM never found her body.
If he actually does it, it might be a part of kakine round 3 or whatever the fuck he is at this point.
>>136204948
>bringing Fren da alive
i swear to god if kamachi pulls something because of saten encounte...oh god the shitposting
>>136204948
Even if her body was cremated, Dark Matter can do Residual Thought; just have the user read the area where Fren(da) died, then make a body from that.
>>136203708
Mikoto is a threat to no one. Obnoxious Mikoto shippers are definitely nuisances to the fanbase though.
>>136139080
Stop, just accept shr doesn't has enough brain capability to perform that when Accelerator barely manages, and what matters is control not output or else Mugino would be better.
>>136178724
>Why are they so perfect together?
They are not and Othinus is nothing special. It's a "girl of the month" as usual in Index. It was like that with Misaki and it'll be like that when another girl will be introduced.
>>136206966
>she is nothing special
She is literally the second out of two special persons for Touma being the first Index.
>>136207044
>two special persons for Touma
Touma has no special person.
oh look another thread where no one recognizes the best girl
>>136206966
I wish more girls of the month got even a quarter of the development Othinus got with Touma.
>>136207139
He does have.
>>136207322
No he doesn't.
>>136207401
He does. Just because that fact interferes with your delusional shipping faggotry doesn't mean you can pretend it's not true.
>>136207150
Orianna just needs to give him a hug or a kiss on the cheek and he'll forget all about that torture with Othinus.
Seria should've shoved his face in her cleavage when she saved him
>>136207441
I am not a shipper. Those who think he does are actually the ones. Touma likes everyone just the same among his friends, if he did have special persons it would be his two friends because they get along well. He has to take care of Index so he does, Othinus has nowhere else to go and no one able to understand her or help her so he's helping her. It's as simple as that.
>>136194570
>Railgun
>cute girl dying
>>136207606
I am not a shipper either, yet from simple inference I can tell that Othinus and Index are a step above everyone else when it comes to protecting and saving. That's without mentioning how comfortable and familiar they're with one another as well. Kamachi himself has said that they have a strong bond and that Touma is different with people he's the closest to.
>>136207606
Ok what is the definition of spezial anon?
>>136207822
>from simple inference I can tell that Othinus and Index are a step above everyone else when it comes to protecting and saving
How? I don't see it. Most of Touma's interactions with his harem are bokke and tsukkomi routine. He's with Index since forever and their interactions are the same. Othinus mindraped him and they're living together, I don't see how he is treating her differently.
>>136207826
You tell me.
>>136207822
>Kamachi himself has said that they have a strong bond
Stockholm syndrome is stronk.
>>136207822
I don't know if it's because of Kamachi's writing but Touma is writing in such a way. He has no one he holds particularly dear, for Accel it's easy to see that there's Last Order and his moms, same for Shiage with Takitsubo and the rest of ITEM but Touma is different. He saves people, they fall for him, get some ship tease when they are relevant and that's all. Of course, he is the person these girls love the most.
>>136208337
Touma is written*
>>136208055
>Most of Touma's interactions with his harem are bokke and tsukkomi routine
And yet Touma is clearly different when he's with them, especially Othinus. In NT10 he was purposefully teasing her all the time, even cranking out sex jokes despite knowing that Othinus is violent. He was enjoying the physical contact and banter with her. With other girls he is too self-conscious or afraid or uncomfortable. Even when he tries to tease Mikoto she ends up scaring him away.
>>136208337
>Last Order
Index fulfills the same role as LO, you can see their roles mirrored several times in the series, starting with the loli exchange in volume 12. Touma is a typical harem MC when it comes to show affection, but he obviously reacts differently and takes things personally when either of those girls is in danger. That's one of the other things that makes them special.
Ultimate Raildex girl ranking:
Laura>Othinus=Will-tan>=Lancis>Awaki>Kikyou=Misaki=Kaori>Kuroko>Silvia=Saten>Lidvia>Kazakiri=Orsola>Lucia=Brunhild>=Itsuwa>Fre>nda=Elizard>Maika=Villian>Misuzu=Aisa>Floris=Rikou>Nayuta>Angelene=Alfar>WORST>Freyja=Enshuu>Agnese>Carrisa>Rensa>Vento>Othinus>Sasha>Cendrillon>Banri=Saiai=Bayloupe≥Ellis>Full-Tuning>Harumi=Sherry=Marian>Mugino=Komoe=Shinobu>Kuroyoru>Maiden of Versailles=Telestina>Stephanie>Shuri>Fraulein>Seria>Uiharu=Kuruwa>Oriana>Birdway>Lessar≥Kongou=Aiho>Byouri=Maria>Vasilisa=Xochitl>LO=Saflee>Saronia>Maaya>Seiri>Mikoto=Index
>>136208586
>In NT10 he was purposefully teasing her all the time
He does that to all the girls. Especially Fukiyose.
>>136208883
Fukiyose is part of Delta force, and most of the times he's egged on by Aogami or Tsuchimikado.
>>136208586
You must be wearing shipping goggles. I felt nothing different reading this, traditional antics with his harem. Othinus isn't even violent and was powerless. Violent girls in his harem are Index, Mikoto and Fukiyose.
>Index fulfills the same role as LO, you can see their roles mirrored several times in the series, starting with the loli exchange in volume 12.
Same role as the person they have to protect because of certain circumstances. Accel's affection for Last Order is crystal clear when you read, same for the girls and their love for Touma or when Shiage is trying to protect Takitsubo. For Touma himself this is not the case, not the case at all. It's always the same thing. Maybe you can say he has more responsibility when it comes to Index due to what happened with Styil and Kaori, but she is not special to him compared to the others.
