So where do they come from?
Well, when a male and a female really love each other...
They are messengers of god, so the angels are sent by god.
Adam's cunny, Earth, eggs.
>>136156911
Speaking of Sachiel, does anyone know where I can find high-res photos of the original frames? Like, where the cels have already been placed on the background? Normally this wouldn't matter, but Anno raped the colors of the blu-rays and I want to fix it.Sephirotic's encodes are shit
>>136157123
So, from nowhere in particular? Just wherever they may have happened to been sent? Landed?
>>136156911
from the moon
>>136157246
Source? And how? Wouldn't they all be spotted on scans like the other high orbit angels??
>>136157153
The suggestion's they're just kinda scattered as embryos and come as they hatch. Not really clarified if they're only as old as Second Impact or if that woke up things buried in the First.
>>136157312
I wish this stuff was given a bit more depth. I think the Angels are super interesting.
>>136157365
This image is mostly correct.
>>136157398
Neato, saved for reading soon.
>>136157285
tang portals on the moon or something it's in the concept art book
>>136157425
Seriously?
>>136157398
>don't bother with Death and Rebirth
Dropped.
>>136157425
Then how does Magma Diver make sense?
>>136157365
Goddamn right, they're made of eldritch math, prehuman civilization, and sexual dysfunction.
>>136157524
Is it sad that my favourites are Sachiel, Ramiel, Israfel & Zeruel? I feel as though my tastes are normie and basic.
I believe the PS2 game Neon Genesis Evangelion 2 explains most of this. The game is only in japanese, but you an read all the Classifed Information from the game right here
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Classified_Information_(Translation)
It hasn't really been confirmed canon though, but Anno was involved with the prodution of the game at least
>>136157685
I've seen people cite this as a source before, but never actually got a link to it.
Most of the folks that do cite it, seem to believe that it's canonical and credible information. Thanks for giving me a link to it, looks like an interesting read!
>>136156911
If I recall correctly they are the human equivalent of Adam's seed. The first "god" to come to Earth was Adam, who got wrecked when Lilith (the humans' progenitor) came too, along with the first impact. Basically, humans are Lilith's offspring, and angels are Adam's. Usually each planet is colonized by one of these "gods", the Earth is an exceptions, so the Angels want to awaken Adam and get rid of the filthy humans.
>>136157729
It makes a lot more sense in Rebuild. And yes, it's canon, no one cares if you don't like it, the movies are now canon. It's the same as Star Wars.
>>136157803
The sequel theory has not been confirmed yet.
>>136157759
I understand the conflict between Adam and Lilith, but why did they come into conflict at all? Are the born [built/created?] to hate the other? Did they actually fight at all? Are the lances weapons, tools or both?
Help?
>>136157803
I actually like the Rebuilds. As someone that's quite new to Evangelion, I don't have the association and nostalgia goggles of "the days when anime was better!"
Instead, I see the original and rebuilds as separate stories. Though I'm intrigued by the idea of the sequel theory.
>>136157849
It's the opposite, there's only one thing that makes the movies sequels while everything else looks like an alternative universe. But the FAR theory still makes more sense in the Rebuild universe. Remember the scene where Gendo shuts down the monoliths that are basically FAR souls reborn in humans.
>>136157685
NGE2 has its own problems, like directly contradicting canon like Fuyutsuki's scenario and introducing new confusion while clarifying like the Dead Sea Scrolls.
>>136157916
There is no conflict between Adam and Eve. The black moon crash landed on earth, so Adam shut itself down to not harm humans. But they wanted ascendancy so they woke him up. Which is why the angels want to return to him, and Nerv users that to fuse angels with Eve.
>>136157916
Humans and angels were not supposed to ever coexist in the same planet. Since humans (because of Lilith) "took" the Earth from angels and Adam reverted to an embryonic-like status, the ones who survived set out to awaken Adam and take back the planet.
I honestly don't remember what the lances were for, I think all god-like beings have one, and Adam's one was destroyed IIRC.
>>136157145
Extras never.
>>136158096
>Adam's one was destroyed
Longinus is Adam's lance. Lilith's was destroyed
>>136157916
The lances are actually said to be somewhat sentient beings.
>>136158218
Yeah my bad. It's also the reason why Adam is the one who was shut down: the lances have the power to "shut down" either Adam or Lilith, and since Lilith's spear was destroyed, Adam's one was activated and put its owner to sleep.
>>136158096
The lances are the shutoff devices for the seeds. Angels meant to terraform planets for humans who inherit the souls of FARturtles, so their race can live on. It's kinda like the Xel'naga.
>>136157916
>>136158096
NGE2 says:
>It is a spear which has a will and is a type of lifeform capable of moving by itself. This is an item close to a god and thus able to put a Seed of Life (Progenitor Entity), who holds the power of eternal life, into suspended animation, and this is the reason why the Seed of Life (Progenitor Entity) does not reach god-status. The First Ancestral Race prepared this as a counter- measure in the event that a Seed of Life (Progenitor Entity) did not follow their own goals.
Whats the game where all the NGE lore came from, what is it called?
>>136158457
Neon Genesis Evangelion 2
What angle is thecutest?
Forgive my ignorance, this is just a fair bit of information to take on board at once.
>>136158673
Sachiel, hands down.
>>136158673
30°
>>136158770
We just barely started.
>>136158673
Matriel was clumsy moe.
>>136158822
>We just barely started.
A worrying sentiment
>>136158673
Science and proportionate eye size say Sahaquiel.
>>136158673
>>136158938
Cutest is Sachiel or Ramiel
Best is Sahaquiel or Leliel
>you will never own the Sahaquiel hat
>>136159151
I want one of the huggable Zeruel things.
>>136159151
Ramiel is sexy, there's a difference.
>>136159990
>>136157916
It's just in their biology that there should be only one of their species per planet. Adam solved this by shutting down until the spear was fucked with then the process of populating the planet started up again so one had to go
It makes more sense if you view it like an ecosystems natural response to an intruder: just get rid of it
>>136156911
In Kazakhstan
>>136160249
So, am I correct in saying the Angels are acting on instinct, and it's just a coincidence that they "wake up" at around the same time? Or was there an event that woke them?
>>136160335
>acting on instinct
It's sort of unclear. It has something to do with their souls/fruit of life but it's never expanded upon in depth.
>why did they wake up
They all matured at roughly the same time so it can be assumed that they were born or had their eggs planted or whatever around the same time and they all age at the same rate much like humans. It's possible that the Angels are all children or around the same age as the Eva pilots in Angel years.
>>136158673
>900x563
Here anon, have an actually readable version of that pic.
>>136160335
Not really waking up but continuing where they left off in their evolution after the second impact
>>136160335
Mostly? They're drawn to Tokyo 3 except Gaghiel, who hangs out in the ocean until Adam is carried right past him, and Sandalphon, who doesn't get the chance, but then there are some that couldn't have reached Lilith themselves, or target the Evas specifically, or show more interest in the Children.
>>136161039
If the meteor was the first impact and Adam the second, then wasn't Eve the third? So the one that Shinji started should be the fourth and the one in 3.0 is the fifth.
>>136161418
Lilith was the First Impact, Adam reawakening was the Second. Depending on the continuity (TV vs Rebuild) either Shinji with the fruits is Third or Shinji vs Zeruel is Near-Third.
At this point, I think I may just watch the series again. Rewatching it, after having read your comments and some of the stuff that was linked to me, I think I might have a better grasp on things.
Anno may not have originally planned the show to have this much "depth", but it's interesting to me nonetheless.
>>136161499
Yeah my bad. Although there was clearly something happening between tge two movies, so the latest one still can't be the fourth.
Are the rebuild movies worth watching?
>>136161832
I'm pretty sure in the preview they refer to the events of 4.0 as "Final Impact".
>>136161845
yes, but since there isnt a final movie yet you'll want to kill yourself since Anno wont be doing jack but spergzilla
>>136157644
I think it's alright to like them. I also like them while liking the others.
I like Ireul because it offers a different method of attack. That and in the episode, it offered more focus on the other characters and how they tried to tackle the problem. But yeah.
>>136161877
Okay but how is that relevant to my post?
>>136157145
the BD colors are intended to look like thy series always looked on tv and home video, if you want to "fix it" you can go ahead and look for the collector discs, but I dont understand the reasoning behind a recolour based on some stills that show a colouring completely off with any home video release, and based the archives box set, not even on tv broadcast.
![[DPG]NGE_Groundwork-1-104.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KHMXsTl.jpg "[DPG]NGE_Groundwork-1-104.jpg")
>>136157489
It was made for people who either (1) didn't tape every episode of NGE when it aired or (2) couldn't buy/rent every VHS of NGE to catch up before EoE came up. Pointless today
>>136163552
Got any more like this for other angels?
>>136163669
i think if its an addition of the nge series its worth watching, regardless of what it is.
![[DPG]NGE_Groundwork-1-049.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/f05kDzZ.jpg "[DPG]NGE_Groundwork-1-049.jpg")
>>136163773
I'll check now
![[DPG]NGE_Groundwork-1-045.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dLMuvbT.jpg "[DPG]NGE_Groundwork-1-045.jpg")
>>136163773
![[DPG]NGE_Groundwork-1-053.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/omCTDB3.jpg "[DPG]NGE_Groundwork-1-053.jpg")
>>136163907
>>136158673
shamshel looks like a penis
>>136163952
>>136164078
Most of the rest is tons of character art and keyframes + concepts
>>136163867
>>136163907
>>136163952
>>136164078
>>136164110
Nice, thanks anon. I'm always trying to find more high quality Eva pics.
>>136164221
For you.
Do enjoy.
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/17axpf4d7k05u/artbooks#qnoqox22iig0d
>>136164308
>http://www.mediafire.com/folder/17axpf4d7k05u/artbooks#qnoqox22iig0d
Navigate to "ARTBOOK COLLECTION 1" and you will find a lovely archive
>>136163669
They redid a bunch of animation, added the cello scenes, added some new different scenes, had minor plot dump, and had the best credit sequence of anything ever. Not to mention that Rebirth is superiour in quality to episode 25'
tl;dr you're an idiot.
>>136164308
>>136164331
Based. Thank you very much friend.
>>136164672
Not a problem anon, just sharing the love.
>>136164521
telling people they're an idiot before asking what their reason is to write what they did.
classic.
what are angels suppose to do once they populate a planet? fight each other? what are they even good for?
>>136160335
I wouldn't say they act on instinct alone, some at least appear to have some sort of intelligence, like Armisael shows when attempting to merge with Unit-00 and Rei.
>>136157312
>The suggestion's they're just kinda scattered as embryos and come as they hatch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Xx66ba36o&feature=youtu.be
>>136165182
>what are angels suppose to do once they populate a planet?
Live.
>start learning to read moonrunes
>realise the S2 Engine (kikan) can be written as 機関 or 器官, the former meaning engine but the latter meaning organ
Anno-sama you smart motherfucker
>>136165182
Probably the same thing any species does when they populate an area.Fucking nothing
anyoen owns one of these bad guys?
assembling its skeleton and fitting it into its skin was a bitch for my 14 year old self, but actually fun and it looks great.
>>136165510
They are terraforming machines you faggots. When they did their job they disappear and that's when the black egg comes.
china
>>136160966
>Kaworu
>148cm
That's fucking 4'10"
Manlet of fucking manlets.
>>136165740
I haven't picked up any of the kits yet, but I plan on it eventually. I quite like the variety of quality merch.
>>136165774
Source on that?
in eva they are plain aliens. in christianity they are god messengers, not warriors.
>>136165902
His ass.
Lilith's egg is the Black Moon, which the angels were trying to eliminate so that their(i.e., Adam's) kind could live forever in their own way.
>>136165774
no, they're beings blessed with the fruit of life (Adams clones or w/e) and since the two eggs are the sources of these lifeforms (humans being blessed with the fruit of knowledge) and they both existed on the same planet which wasnt supposed to happen since the two beings cannot be on the same world without obliterating eachother. angels would take the place of humans and all of that. the reason they attack and all of that is because of survival instincts, if they trigger the third impact everybody would be replaced as beings blessed with the fruit of life.
i might be wrong on some aspects i dont remember precisely what they said in the show.
>>136165740
Here's a pic from the side of the box that shows how the skeleton looks. It's fairly complicated and highly mobile. The skin is made of rubber.
I also just remembered I never painted the Kensuke and Hikari figurines, I should before I get old and my pulse goes to shit.
>>136165942
The angels in Eva are about as alien as you and me.
>>136166021
and forgot pic.
>>136165990
My ass knows more than you fag. The angels wanted to go back to Adam and leave knowledge lifeforms alone. Gendo tricked them with Lilith. I'm pretty sure you didn't even watch the series.
>>136166069
Scale? I'm guessing it's roughly 1/100
>>136165774
What the fuck are you talking about? The black moon is already there before the start of the series
>>136166016
>this is the new generation of evafags
You seriously don't know anything about the FAR and their plans?
How the fuk are the Angels suppose to coexist with each other if they had eliminated all humans?
>>136166186
How are Lilin?
>>136166108
beats me, I have no clue.
but it's around 20cm tall if that helps.
>>136166171
>he can't even read properly
>>136158673
Tabris
>>136166186
Shoop da woop
>>136166270
Yep that sounds about 1/100
>>136166186
Angels are not supposed to coexist with Lilins. Old extraterrestrials separated Lilith from Adam that they never be combined in one person because these beings could be as strong as these ET's
>>136166327
I mean how are all the giant cross exploding Angels suppose to coexist if they are vastly different from one another? But yea I get your point
>>136166177
if im not retarded (probably am here) they were dying out and they sent seeds of life everywhere or some shit, they made it so 2 of the same seeds of life would containing the fruit of life and the fruit of knowledge would never supposed to land simultaneously on one planet which happened by mistake on earth and thus creating the conflict. srsly tell me whats wrong if you know since i'd rather know whats right than spout shit here.
>>136166473
My understanding is that they're each an independent life form, but collectively form one species. I imagine they could live together quite easily. However, what they would do and whether or not they would form societies or procreate is entirely beyond my ability to speculate.
>>136166513
I think that's pretty correct, also the Lances were sort of a contingency plan for exactly what happened on Earth, but somehow one of them got damaged before it could act and destroy one of the Angels.
>>136166625
i think it was Lilith's spear was destroyed when the dark moon impacted on earth or something.
>>136166513
That's right. But the angels are meant to terraform barren rocks. Angels and normal life can't coexist since angel poop is toxic to normal life. Humans can also inherit the souls of the FAR people that are stored in the chamber of Guf. So angels are not even a legit lifeform, why would they have their own planets? They create more planets where the reborn FAR can live.
>>136156911
Outer space.
Angels a shit
Eva Series is best
>>136166765
MPs are shit though.
>>136166765
The mouth creeps me right the fuck out
>>136166743
havent seen or heard about terraforming, i think they would have their own planet since they're children of adam.
>>136166743
No, you idiot.
It's explained in >>136157398
The seeds of life and seeds of knowledge were scientific experiments to see what happened.
This is explained flat out in the games that Gainax made following the series.
There is literally nothing about terraforming.
>>136166837
kinda seem like fucking cougars with the smiles and the lipstick red lips,
>oh hey look at this little boy in the giant robot how about we have some fun.
>>136166891
That was for the series which probably wasn't meant to have that kind of plot. I mostly talk about Rebuild canon.
>>136166998
Rebuild isn't canon. Just dogshit.
>>136166891
It literally says they were supposed to terraform the planet in that picture
>>136167027
We don't discuss you're shit opinion, though, but the plot.
Suddenly it got quiet.
>>136167478
its because some people got rekt
>>136167521
Nobody acknowledged my comment. That's the only reason I'm quiet. Though it could have just been dumb.
See: >>136166583
A school setting where all the Angels are students
>>136167602
10/10 would watch
>>136167646
And this would be best girl
>>136167602
What would each Angel's personality be?
>>136164521
I haven't seen Death and Rebirth, what makes Rebirth higher quality than 25'?
>>136167602
So Angel Beats?
>>136167838
Top kek
>>136167753
>draw an octahedron
>call it a girl
>>136167929
How would panty shots even work on a octahedron?
>>136166295
>rebuild cgi canon
>>136167929
Fuck you I spat out my drink.
>>136166834
If they're shit then how come Asuka couldn't beat them?
>>136168134
Because the MPs are plot devices and regen is effectively literal plot armor. She did technically beat them, even within the timelimit, it's just the reanimation was warranted by the plot.
>>136167602
That was surprisingly good despite the horrible CGI.
>>136168244
AKA you're salty you're waifu died
>>136167829
There's mostly just visual differences and a few extra cutsand honestly I think 25' looks better
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Guides:Rebirth_vs._Episode_25%27
>>136168024
I'm not sure, but I know how ZR works.
>>136158815
30° a shit. π/4 best angle
>>136168302
My point still stands regardless.
>>136168365
>sexualising geometry
>>136157398
Cool,thank you
Reading that made me think that they really should do a book(ando not another manga) about the backstory of Evangelion
>>136157980
It's entirely possible that Seele are some kind of Atlantean technology. There are a shitload of Nadia references in 2.0 and 3.0.
>>136167753
Would they be in angel form, or cute anime girl form?
>Ramiel would have geometric shapes in her hair
>>136168052
T'is cool
>>136165591
I don't get it, engine can be written two ways but one way also means organ?
>>136168717
In the series. In the movies is clear they are the FAR.
>>136168776
Angel form. Just imagine Sachiel running to school with toast
>>136168824
If that bothers you, never start to learn the runes. it's a fucking mess.
>>136161832
The one Shinji causes is called Near-Third Impact. A proper Third Impact happened some time later, then 4th happens in 3.0.
>>136164064
Shamshel is built for loving
>>136166186
The Angels seem like solitary creatures and the concept of socialization appears wholly alien to them. Rei and Kaworu kind of get it since they've lived with humans, but Leliel, Armisael and Arael are baffled by the idea.
>>136166837
>I put a dick head with a face in side of your dick head with a mouth. Isn't that great?
>>136157398
>mfw somebody wrote this out seriously thought that somebody would read all this shit to understand this shit show lore.
>>136168134
Because she was an idiot and didn't try to puncture the core on any of them until the very last.
>>136167753
Ramiel's been humanized in Campus Apocalypse and the Divine Gate crossover, and both times they drew it as a male.
I wish it had gotten an Angel XX figure. Probably would have been a PS1 polygonal blue Rei.
>>136169431
Oh wow that's pretty sick
>>136169431
Except cores can be risky business, see Zeruel's shuttering and the resilience of Shamshel's. Additionally, Asuka wasn't aware of the regen properties. Keep in mind she operated on a strict time limit.
>>136168890
Amazing. Make it happen Anon.
Sachiel is best girl
Zeruelfags BTFO
>>136169564
They don't actually regenerate, but they're incorrectly drawn that way in a few cuts. I don't have the cap handy, but that one Asuka cut in half is running around with its upper and lower body separated
>>136169861
But actually they can regenerate since that's the point of angels and Evas.
>>136169861
True, I meant reanimate moreso. Plus there's the shot of the one in space with the moon in the background showing it was clearly bisected.
>>136166186
Return to papa Adam
Awake papa
Re-terraforming the planet into their image
Live happily ever after
That's kinda the plan.
>>136170340
Angels are not an intelligent lifeform so they don't have plans just basic instructions. They probably don't know they are terraforming the planet for the creatures they kill in the process.
Making history Anon's
>>136156911
The Moon.
Why Nobody notices?
Transdimensional beings that move in the fourth dimension and can open up portals.
>>136170732
top fucking kek
>>136170732
You sir are the real MVP
>>136170732
You know that now you have the duty to edit the entire scene of Sacchi showing up in Tokyo3 in the beginning of the anime, right?
>>136170793
>>136171022
Thanks anon's
>>136171073
I'll see what I can whip up. Haven't got much time right now.
Here you go Anon's.
Found this the other day when I was researching Metabolist architecture in post-war Japan. Looks like Anno took the idea of a giant octohedron looming over Tokyo from the architect Kiyonori Kikutake's concept for a future urbanism.
>>136171979
10/10
>>136171979
this is a project /a/ needs to get starded on
>>136172101
Cheers!
>>136172241
I would if I could, but alas I just don't have the time. Tonight was a rare chance for me to do something silly, but I'm a busy guy!
And I thought this would never be relevant.
>>136173307
>>136171979
why are angels so cute
>>136174423
Because they are just so angelic!
>>136164308
>>136164331
That is one hell of a collection anon
>>136165861
That's still taller than the other children.
>>136175041
Not a problem dude!
This is, without a doubt, the best thread I've helmed on /a/
Today was a good day.
>>136175062
>>136175519
You forgot to mention that 4.0 never comes out.
>>136172349
what u doing?
>>136175784
Taller than everyone that isn't Touji and Mari, then?
>>136175848
He's probably the same height as Toji/Mari
>>136175833
I work from home.
Writer for an entertainment media magazine.
I'm actually settling down to get a load of work done now, so goodbye and goodnight!
Peace!
>>136176033
I hope you do good work!
>>136175952
I think he's a bit shorter than them, his concept art shows he's only about half an inch higher than Shinji and Touji is a lot taller than that.
best thread on /a/
10/10
What do you suppose is going on with these four assholes? They aren't numbered like the other Angels. I'm thinking either there was one original Adam who somehow split into four lesser beings like the giant Albion, or maybe they're from a different Angel-seeded world and came here on the Wunder.
>>136177883
maybe its >>136175519
>>136177982
>mixing Rebuild and NGE
Full retard
>>136177883
I'm not sure if it's really relevant, but it's interesting that they all have a different symbol on them
>>136178131
I believe it's a reference to the Ultra Brothers, but it is interesting. And the core for the three-eyed Adam is obscured or absent in both versions.
It's also interesting that the Evas built off of them (01, 06, 13) just sit around like lifeless husks unless Shinji or Kaworu are in them. Eva 13 even loses its awakened form when Shinji is ejected.
>>136175519
Where does the last image in this come from?
>>136178668
It's a poster for Rebuild 2.0
>>136177883
Albion?
>>136178668
It's the 2.0 theatrical poster
>>136178811
I think he's talking about this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion_(Blake)
>>136178110
its not my picture, i was just trying to help
>2016
>calling people names over the intratubes
>>136178951
Yes, that's the one.
>>136179105
They probably aren't the FAR since they have to eat Rei/Lilith + an Angel to unlock their godly power, but they could be a race of their own. The Vessel really muddies things up.
>>136179582
They probably aren't FAR since FAR dying out was the whole reason they seeded other life to begin with.
how do you guys like my Lilith keychain?
I wish I had Sachiel from the same collection
>>136182245
wow, feels bad
>>136157070
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! CHECK YOUR PRIVELEGE CIS SCUM! IT'S 2016!!!!
>>136169340
The state of the education system, gents.
I'm amazed that 219 posts have passed and no one has posted that angle copypasta by Jake the Snake
