Remind me who was best girl?
>>136147396
Saki, but why the fuck would you need a reminder of anything VVV-related?
>>136147489
I wouldn't mind reminding how any of it made sense. especially the ending.
Was there any candidate besides Saki?
>rapes her
>next ep she's like "it's cool brah"
>he proposes to her to show he wants to take responsibility and make her happy
>she laughs at him
This show was retarded and she was a weird bitch. Like it wasn't the first time she was raped
>>136147793
She was a child star. Of course it wasn't the first time.
>>136147793
>reddit poster does not understand a simple anime plot
Shocking.
Saki is life.
Saki deserved better.
Shoko deserved worse.
>>136147396
if someone tells you that consensual rape is impossible
show them vavlrave
>>136148050
It was never consensual. Even if Slutki was begging for it, Haruto was never willing.
titty monster sensei>>>>>S1 Shoko>>>Saki>S2 Shoko
>>136148263
titty sensei was the only character that i really wanted to see live through this.
>Shoko wasn't revealed to be genetically engineered clones with sensei as an older model
>>136147793
>He didn't realized that girl always fantasize to get raped by a guy she like.
LOL
>>136147396
L-Elf.
>>136147396
No one because the show fucking sucked.
Why didn't this happen?
![[gg]_Valvrave_the_Liberator_-_04_[88D7EE45].mkv_snapshot_16.10_[2013.05.03_21.43.47].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ny89Zfi.jpg "[gg]_Valvrave_the_Liberator_-_04_[88D7EE45].mkv_snapshot_16.10_[2013.05.03_21.43.47].jpg")
has it really been 3 years
>>136148358
>Shoko wasn't revealed to be a magius
>Shoko wasn't revealed to be leader of the cow empire
So much wasted potential.
Why even have that rape shit scene juxtaposition if they never had Shoko find out?
>>136148595
Because
1.) The rape only existed for cheap momentary shock value.
2.) The writers forgot it even happened after they finished rewriting S2.
>>136147793
This is the typical Valvrave hater, too damn stupid to understand what's going on so they just call it "retarded" or a "trainwreck".
>>136147396
Yes. Shouko was best girl without a doubt.
Haruto didn't deserve this
What happened to Saki in the end? Did she ever marry anyone?
>>136147396
Shoko was great. The story just shat on her repeatedly. And the rest of the cast foolishly made her their enemy by lying to her and omitting information.
She could have been one of their greatest allies.
>>136147396
L-Elf.
>>136148595
Because it wasn't important. The real 'triangle' was L-Elf-Haruto-Shouko. Haruto even forgot Saki existed before he lost his memories.
>>136148893
She tries to fuck A-drei but he's too gay. She's got a thing for men who want to fuck L-Elf.
>>136148880I agree
>>136149022
>She tries to fuck A-drei but he's too gay
Fuck, really? Poor A-Drei just wants his fucking husbando.
How does one go from a pretty decent MC in S1 to a total fuckhead in S2?
>>136149083bad writing
I hope whoever made haruto pick shouko got fired and never found a job again. Would've been a great show if he had picked saki
>>136149219
It would've been a great show if Shoko died in the first ep.
![code-geass-r2-19-the-black-knights-confront-zero[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fSfwW0y.jpg "code-geass-r2-19-the-black-knights-confront-zero[1].jpg")
>>136148921
>And the rest of the cast foolishly made her their enemy by lying to her and omitting information.
Who cares if the person who lied to you is the only reason you're still alive, if your enemy, who has tried to kill you many times, revealed some minor lie obviously you should abandon your ally!
where is the "L-ElfxShoko" anon
>>136149070
Yes. She invites him to come and see her in a concert and teases him because he 'kissed her' when she was unconscious. She acts like she used to do around Haruto before she got her personality stolen from her by drama.
>>136149219
Haruto didn't remember either in the end, only his feelings for L-Elf remained when he died.
Why does the kid from the future look like L-Elf and Haruto's lovechild anyways?
>>136150000
>what is genetic engineering?
>>136150088
Who in their right mind would want Haruto's DNA to be passed on to a new generation?
>>136147396
>obtain willing fuckslave and supply
>go MUH HUMANITY and refuse
Haruto deserved to bite the dust.
>>136150491
>Go full edgelord abandon humanity
>Hated for being an edgy faggot
Just can't win with you guys.
>>136150491
But he let go of his humanity in S1 anon.
>>136147396
>Remind me who was best girl?
Akira of course, who else?
>Main girl is not an insufferable tsundere/cunt
>She only kinda wins
Seriously Japan. Fuck. You.
>>136149786
I don't remember this,it's in an OVA or something?
>>136147396
Shoko is a miracle of the universe and my waifu.
>>136149219
Stop self inserting faggot. She was his childhood friend and he loved her since the beginning. He knew nothing about Saki before and raped her unwillingly, rape that she accepted like the slut she is.
I want to cum inside Kriem.
My angel Saki-chan
>>136149219
Saki got her chance and refused to marry haruto. It's your waifu's fault.
Obviously the one who isn't used goods.
Remember, Shoko is your friend.
Shoko a shit
>>136150583
Bestest.
>>136154568
Shouko will make sunrise mecha animes great again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLIQrFY3fUk
>>136147793
Pretty sure her producers and managers smashed her little cunny all the time
>>136150691
Pretty sure its headcanon
>Shoko
[ ] Raped
[x] Not Raped
>Saki
[x] Raped
[ ] Not Raped
>>136150583
>>136154639
This 2bh.
>>136150583
>>136154639
>>136156815
I want to lick this hikki's unwashed pussy
>>136149786
I thought Saki more or less gave up on Haruto, because she realized she had a chance with A-Drei instead.
Dailies reminder L-elfxShouko OTP
>>136147396
Shoko
>>136157095
Daily reminder that Shoko and L-Elf never cared about each other and that Haruto and Shoko would have gotten together if he lived.
HarutoxShoko is VVV's OTP.
>>136157048
>>136159440
No she did say she gave up on him in the post show drama cd which was written by the anime staff as opposed to a non canon manga.
>>136147793
first time dealing with females?
>>136148595
he pushes her off the first time and she didn't rape her in the valvrave
Why didn't Saki accept the proposal? She could have won the bowl right then and there.
>>136160456
He proposed only because he raped her, not because he loved her
>>136160456
I think it something like she thought he was only doing it out of guilt and not because he genuinely loved her.
>didn't even need to drink people's blood to get runes, only needed to have sex
>still chose not to have sex with Saki who loved him and was willingly offering herself to him
>becomes vegetable
Why did Haruto do that?
>>136160456
Because he never loved her.
Because she was only a victim to him.
Because she wasn't special to him.
Because he say being with and hanging around her as a punishment.
>>136160616
Because she wasn't Shoko.
>>136160616
Would you betray your waifu to get runes?
>>136160616
Because he's an idiot.
>>136147396
The way they spliced the rape with the childhood friend's speech was one of the funniest things I've seen in anime.
>>136160778
Don't insult my husbando.
>>136160839
Childhood friend still won.
>>136148721
What the FUCK was the point of the 500 year flashback or however long it was?
>>136161511
Nothing
>>136147793
She doesn't want his pity "love"
>>136164094
It was never love. It was all just pity.
Reminder that Shoko drove Haruto away and never apologized when she found out the truth.
>>136164863
She didn’t, he did and they were never really driven apart.
>ship Haruto and Shoko so hard you sacrifice your life for them to get together
How can one jew be such a good wingman?
![[gg]_Valvrave_the_Liberator_-_23_[0B9A3484].mkv_snapshot_05.36_[2014.10.10_18.14.08].png](https://i.imgur.com/yKbgDwD.jpg "[gg]_Valvrave_the_Liberator_-_23_[0B9A3484].mkv_snapshot_05.36_[2014.10.10_18.14.08].png")
>>136160616
Because he's a nice person who wouldn't use people like that.
>>136166345
He knew what the show's OTP was.
>>136150000
>>136150458
If runes are indeed found in DNA as well then Haruto's continuous jacking of L-Elf left a genetic imprint on L-Elf's genetic code, as jacking is defined as "sending your runes into another body."
L-Elf became leader of Module 77 at the end of Valvrave, suggesting he is the first in line of M77's new royalty. Thus it is safe to assume the prince is his descendant, which explains his similarity to L-Elf, while his similarity to Haruto is the result of L-Elf's family genetics being altered by Haruto's DNA.
Basically, Haruto put his sugar in L-Elf's coffee.
>>136167313
>Haruto put his sugar in L-Elf's coffee.
Ha ha, gay.
Does Shoko ever get over her guilt?
>>136167313
>valvrave finds a way
>>136167474
She was staring at a statue of Haruto 200 years later. You decide.
S2 when.
>Saki vs the cow empire and goo aliens
>>136167873
>goo aliens
Imagine Saki with goo in every orifice
>>136168241
I want to fill Saki with my goo.
>>136159440
best girl desu senpai
>>136169728
Nope, this is best girl
>>136148693
>[gg]
;_;
I miss Valvrave
>L-Elf died a virgin
>all this Shokofaggotry
I AM OK WITH THIS
>>136147701
Good times.
>>136147489
Saki was shit
>>136170208
no u
>>136170110
>Saki
>win anything
Yeah no.
>>136170278
She was. Pretty much every other main female cast members was better than Saki.
>>136169955
Well she did win.
Would Saki be a good girlfriend?
>>136170768
There's only one way to find out
>>136170768
No. She would ignore your needs and feelings for her desires.
>>136169954
So did A-Drei most likely.
>>136170768
She would cuck the shit out of you
>>136147396
>Younger
>Taller
>Bustier
>Idol
>Drives a fucking mech
>Beautiful
>Loyal till the end
>Had sex with you
Is Saki the most based animu grill ever made?
>>136170997
>>136171157
>was willing to let Haruto suck her blood
>cries tears of joy when she rescues him on the moon
>keeps a locket of Haruto, faithful to him 200 years later
Damaged goods like saki who were raped and abused a lot when they were kids are the least likely to betray you, because you were special enough to get through her hardened protective shell to save her.
>>136171401
>Idol
That's an automatic negative.
>Drives a fucking mech
Doesn't matter and wasn't that good at it. Plus side materials say Shoko was a better pilot.
>Beautiful
Subjective
>Loyal till the end
Only if you lose all your memories and focus solely on her.
>Had sex with you
Raped
>>136171542
>Plus side materials say Shoko was a better pilot
Nice headcanon
>>136171531
>was willing to let Haruto suck her blood
Because she wanted sex out of him and refused to acknowledge his obviously aversion to her after the rape.
>raped and abused a lot when they were kids
That never happened.
>>136150870
NO FIGURES
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>>136147396
Dis girl.
>>136147396
>2016
>still pretending there was any contest
Shaggity
>>136171848
There was.
You were just never a part of it.
![Kakumeiki Valvrave - 24 -50[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/5KEVto1.jpg "Kakumeiki Valvrave - 24 -50[2].png")
>>136171630
In the flashback scene, Saki is beaten by her stereotypically drunk deadbeat father and thrown out onto the street, becomes a young idol in a seedy industry, then gets kicked out of that too. She has no friends, alienates everyone, and has scenes where she explicitly says "I hate humans" and "the world tried to kill me."
If you are the one person who managed to get her to believe in things like trust, kindness, and love again, why would she ever betray you?
>>136172187
>>136172217
>Saki is beaten by her stereotypically drunk deadbeat father and thrown out onto the street,
Didn't happen.
>>136172217
All we know about Saki's past is thst she was in the idol industry and then get kicked out when she wasn't popular anymore.
>>136160213
>right hand on back
>not on ass
what is this garbage?
>>136172454
Because he is a gentleman.
>>136172511
that's not how you spell beta
>>136172372
>>136172275
Are you saying the scene didn't happen at all? If I remember correctly, there is a scene with loli Saki cowering in ragged clothes framed in a doorway.
Am I losing it?
>>136172217
It doesn't excuse her bitchy behavior from when she stole V4 and went all batty.
>>136172562
Yes, sixth episode
>>136172562
Her flashback only showed her time in the idol industry which we all know isn't a good time, not for her but in general, but unlike Akira she never was shown to have any previous experience that excused her bitchy and childish behavior.
>>136172713
>complains about childish
>probably likes Shouko
Weak b8 familia
>>136172632
That less than 10 second rapid flashing of images has no impact because it doesn't have any context or weight to it.
>>136172810
We get it, you hate Saki
>>136172793
Shoko was always the more mature one.
Shoko's arc is realizing that she is ready for the next step in life and tsking on more responsibility.
Saki was the immature one that acted like she thought an adult should act but was very selfish and self-centered. Hrr arc is realizing that she is that immature, which is why she asks if she is a bsd prrson in the last episode.
>>136172965
Nice meme, she never took responsibility for anything and was always carried by the choice of other people
Couldn't get her shit together when his father told her to move on, overpowered by everyone to the point of forcing herself to give Haruto to Arus, never had any sort of decent plan and ultimately brought Module 77 to ruins by getting deceived by Arus.
>but muh haruto lied
Well yeah, but she also let in people who constantly refused to collaborate with them through the whole series and were worth of any trust
>>136173150
*were never worth
>>136172217
>she explicitly says "I hate humans" and "the world tried to kill me."
She's the emo one of the group.
Does anyone have the S2 version of this?
>>136170768
She seems like a nice enough girl. Would she be a good girlfriend for Haruto? Not at all. She only wanted him because of muh loneliness. That's not healthy for a relationship.
>>136173150
>she never took responsibility for anything
She did. She took full responsibility for everything she did and never tried to pass the burden off.
>was always carried by the choice of other people
Becoming PM was ultimately her decision and her realizing that she was ready for more responsibility.
>Couldn't get her shit together when his father told her to move on,
Because you would be so well composed after being forced to watch your father die.
>overpowered by everyone to the point of forcing herself to give Haruto to Arus,
Because one person can stand up to an angry mob. Also it's why that is Shoko's only real immature moment, giving into childish anger.
>never had any sort of decent plan and ultimately brought Module 77 to ruins by getting deceived by Arus.
She did, but the Magius had a better one.
>Well yeah, but she also let in people who constantly refused to collaborate with them through the whole series and were worth of any trust
She says at the start of S2 that she can't fully trust them and needs to prove themselves and earn their trust or they will just keep undermining them.
>>136173524
>he's on /a/
>he thinks he knows about relationships
Funny
>>136172713
I just checked ep. 6, it happens around the 19:00 mark, a man (presumably her dad) strikes her in the face. There's a longer flashback later from her time in the idol industry.
In the beginning of the episode she says to Haruto: "Poverty, violence, alcohol, crime, I would've been better without my parents, to escape from them I had to become famous." Though she bites Haruto a few moments later, I think she is only feigning her emotional weakness (the crying and doubt), but is really telling the truth when it comes to her rough childhood - as evidenced by the flashback of being beaten.
So yes, it seems Saki had a hard life.
Akira had an easy life compared to Saki.
People call her a bitch but she is only hateful, self-serving, and manipulative because the world forced her to be.
>>136173653
>People call her a bitch but she is only hateful, self-serving, and manipulative because the world forced her to be.
The world didn't force her to be. She joined it by choice because she wasn’t strong enough to stand up to it.
>>136173653
It doesn't excusr her because she had already gone to the school for a few years by that point and refused to change into a better person.
>>136173759
Saki mirrors the Magius in that regard.
She does at least break out of that shell when shown some positivity from others, which makes her better than the lot who formed the Council.
>>136173849
No, her father sold her to the VVV project after she tried to escape from that
That's stuff that leaves you scarred
![[FFF] Kakumeiki Valvrave - 10 [BD][720p-AAC][1AEF2AC4].mkv_snapshot_03.47_[2016.01.15_16.01.42].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lgwWU06.jpg "[FFF] Kakumeiki Valvrave - 10 [BD][720p-AAC][1AEF2AC4].mkv_snapshot_03.47_[2016.01.15_16.01.42].jpg")
>>136173615
How socially inept are you that you can't even comprehend a relationship cannot be sustained on sharing loneliness? That's what Saki wanted, she projected her loneliness onto Haruto and wanted them to be alone together. That's not healthy.
>>136173927
>he doesn't want to be alone with his lover
What are you? A cuck?
>>136173918
>her father sold her to the VVV project after she tried to escape from that
That is impossible. You can only get into the vvv project before birth since the zygotes have to be modified.
>>136173918
Students genes were altered before being born. Saki was sold to the project long before that.
>>136174000
And I see you're a retard.
Being alone =/= being lonely.
>>136174016
>>136174055
>>136173497
>>136173849
It isn't hard to imagine why Saki failed to make friends at school.
Boys will only "like" her because they want to fuck her.
The girls will hate her because Saki is blunt, proud, distrustful, gives off the impression that she thinks she's superior to you, and on top of that, steals all the boys' attention from them. This is a recipe for disaster. Girls are already petty and jealous creatures who will hate anyone more beautiful and successful than them, so Saki is like a walking trigger warning.
>>136147396
These two
>>136174193
The manga wasn't written by the people writing the show. And the saki mangachas other inconsistencies as well.
Haruto's father explicitly said that in order to become a space vampire you had to be modified in the zygote stage. Every student on module 77 had been genetically altered before they were born.
>>136174310
>gives off the impression that she thinks she's superior to you
She did think she was superior to everyone.
>>136174350
Just because all of them were modified it doesn't mean they were all going to be chosen
![[FFF] Kakumeiki Valvrave - 18 [BD][720p-AAC][78157E1D].mkv_snapshot_17.59_[2016.01.15_16.15.18].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4xwTI76.jpg "[FFF] Kakumeiki Valvrave - 18 [BD][720p-AAC][78157E1D].mkv_snapshot_17.59_[2016.01.15_16.15.18].jpg")
>>136174193
Nope.
That phone call was probably a follow-up confirmation in case parents tried to get out of it after. One of the scientists with Tokishima papa even said he felt tricked.
>>136174235
Can someone explain the Cream to Coffee?
Still mad this never actually happed.
>>136174235
Thanks senpai.
>>136169934
I miss Saki
>>136174488
That's what Haruto said to L-Elf.
L-Elf is bitter like coffe, and Haruto's stupid naiviety is like creme to his coffe.
>>136174430
When the ultimate goal was creating a new lifeform you bet your ass they were all going to be chosen.
>>136174430
But they were all modified before birth. That fact can't be changed.
>>136173524
>Those tits
>Dat Hair
>Idol
>Experienced
Would be a great fuck.
Fucking Haruto
>>136174569
I miss the 3000-post thread shitstorms when the rape episode aired.
>>136174488
Haruto put his cream in L-Elf's bitter darkness.
>>136174310
But she is superior to every animu grill
That's a fact
>>136174714
It should have been L-elf.
Imagine how much bigger the storm would have been.
Imagine how much more money the fujos would have poured in.
Imagine L-elf's grunt when Haruto puts it in.
Wasted opportunity.
>>136174395
Why do you hate Saki so much anyways?
>>136174838
Not all of them. Here are three that are better.
>>136175050
Your taste is good.
>>136174970
Not him but Saki did have a pretty large ego that let her think that she was better than everyone at the school.
>>136175252
But she is better than everyone
I liked both Shoko and Saki.
The writers totally shat on Shoko by the end, though.
>>136160616
I know, all of this could have been solved if he only smashed lel-f's boypussy
>>136166345
He deduced that their relationship would be profitable.
>>136175480
Well Saki had great moments like saving Haruto and L-Elf but was irrelevant for half second season and getting stabbed must have been painful
>Sunrise will never make another anime as good as Valvrave
I like my coffee with Kream.
>>136176078
>there are people on /a/ who think CrossAnge was good/better
>>136176078
It was just fun in general.
Likable cast, decent story, great soundtrackI was actually fucking sad when it ended. Hardly happened ever since.
>>136147396
Shoko
>>136178555
How steak is made?
Is Saki the prince's "mother"?
>>136179243
No.
>>136179243
>>136179309
>>136179542
But you need a womb to create a child.
>>136179542
so?
>>136179639
>times when I wish I hadn't lost that pic of L-Elf in front of several cloning vats
>>136179639
Fact.
The only way I can re-watch this train wreck is with all of you again.
I miss those days.
>>136154568
This image is funny because I remember someone posted it on /pol/ without the extra LOGH and excited gaijin parts as a criticism on the retardedness of democracy back in june 2013
Good memories
>>136150959
Saki loved Haruto because he gave her freedom and because he was a tortured soul, just like in vampire novels and she wanted to save him
Also while Saki is used to rough sex, Haruto was the first person she fucked who was the same age as her and not a fat old man and thus she enjoyed it more
>>136154568
I love how no one can remember what that speech was about.
>>136179729
This one?
>>136158808
>VVV's OTP
HamxEggs
>>136179931
Yes
>>136148693
In three months on either the 9th of April or the 13th of April it will be three years since I woke up at 6 am to find /a/ talking about this anime
>>136179895
Essentially Haruto was Saki's teenage drama fantasy crush that was different from how she actually perceived him.
>>136179931
What is the other one?
>>136161511
Forshadowing that 300 years after Haruto's death, Saki was still a cuck
>>136179982
Valvrave is an anime people will be talking about in ten years.
>>136160573
Most marriages through history have been out of obligation or convenience rather than love, then people learn to love each other over time
>>136179794
>not watching it every October for the spoopy
>>136180046
Only really because /a/ had so much fun with it.
>>136180126
Truth.
>>136153888
Saki had the best body.
>>136176078
>good
You mean fun. The story was shit and the characters were idiots but all the wacky shit that the show was premised on turned it into a great watch. Especially when /a/ was there to react to it.
Most of you are faggots and probably from places like /v/ and reddit, but when 4chan is shut down in the next few years or I stop visiting because i have stuff to do anime will be less lustrous than it is now.
>>136179982
>>136154703
tomino already did that
>>136180046
I'll definitely remember it in 10 years. It was a cool spring morning on my campus and the cultural festival was setting up in the distance while I was watching anime and reading /a/. I think the cherry blossoms on campus were still in bloom.
>>136180260
whatdoes that prove?
>>136180260
Valvrave, a magical show.
>>136180306
I bet you forget in 2 years.
>>136180260
If /a/ has taught me anything it's that hard sci-fifags are insufferable cunts.
>>136179639
>use science to fuse haruto and l-elfs dna together into an embryo
>use Shoko as the womb
>Saki remains a cuck
Everything in order
>>136180399
I haven't forgotten in 3 years so why would I forget in 2? Even if another wacky shitfest like this is made the atmosphere will be different.
>>136180418
And you are too.
>>136180577
I didn't need /a/ to know that.
>>136180774
But you need /a/
How can you remain in love with a dead person for 200 years straight?
>>136180418
>power outage episode
>people bitching about how space isn't cold the way they think the show means it
>completely overlook that it actually concerns itself with a very legitimate issue in space habitation, the problem of heat management in a vacuum
The clever thing being that the modules must've been designed to bleed away heat quite efficiently, since they'd get theirs from a Dyson sphere microstar. Losing the internal generator thus has the module succumb to its own design.
>>136176078
>there will be never an anime as good as Valvrave
Just fuck my shit up guys
>>136180956
>put a lot of thought into space colony design
>everything else is retarded
That's why this was a great show, they put the effort into the weirdest things and everything else was just half-assed nuttery.
>>136180860
Because he was a qt
>>136180860
Because Saki is a glutton for suffering
>>136181094
gay
>>136148641
I like how these are starting to be made with Tomorrow in mind.
>>136181104
Saki actually did try to romance A-Drei.
Shiko remained pure for 200 yrs.
>>136181160
>not wanting to rail Haruto
I think you're the gay one.
>>136181057
Valvrave is dumb, but it's far from stupid.
>>136181477
well you can draw a girl and call it a guy and me gay but it is false
>>136174512
dat ass. sunrise find a way
