Just spent the last couple weeks playing through the F/SN VN. I know I'm really late to the party, but I wanna talk about it dammit. So, fate/stay night thread. Topics for discussion:
1. Illya: Why couldn't you protect her smile /a/?
2. Rin: how can one girl be so best?
3. Who else agreed with Shirou at the end and decided Kotomine was actually a cool guy?
4. Shinji: How the hell is he not immediately killed in any route?
5: What scene inspired actual emotion in your shriveled cold heart anon? Pic related for me.
>>135990613
Shinji did nothing wrong.
>>135990613
Why are you so late to the party? Are you new to anime?
>>135990706
You're right.
>>135990613
Kotomine is the best girl anon.
![[HorribleSubs] Fate Kaleid Liner PRISMA ILYA 2wei Herz! - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_09.38_[2015.09.27_01.11.47].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ugwBanw.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Fate Kaleid Liner PRISMA ILYA 2wei Herz! - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_09.38_[2015.09.27_01.11.47].jpg")
>>135990613
>1. Illya: Why couldn't you protect her smile /a/?
You've got it wrong. You don't save Illya's smile, Illya saves your smile.
>>135990613
Illya was sacrificed to Sakura could keep her route. Do with that what you will
Still, what's the chance of F/SN getting a remake like Tsukihime is?
>>135990613
>agreed with Shirou at the end and decided Kotomine was actually a cool guy
I knew he was great from the moment we went to the restaurant together.
Too bad he gets to shine in the most useless and meaningless route.
>>135990613
>6. Why was Sakura so fucking shit?
Added a new one OP you are welcome.
Is there a patch for character voices in F/HA?
>>135991119
Not that I know of, as far as I'm aware it's still being worked on but it's going to take fucking ages
>>135991098
Sakura is the worst character in the best route.
>>135991010
>Fate remake
Please fuck no. Enough with the fate, and let Nasu do something new. I'll let the Tsukihime remake slide because the original is laughably dated and had poor production values even back when it came out, but let the Fate die already. It's had a good run.
>>135991010
unlikely considering realta nua and the vita version
>>135991010
>tsukihime remake
You're talking about the one which will maybe come out in twenty years?
>>135991360
So much of this.
Literally the only girl who was actually good in her own route was saber and I even dislike her.
HF is kotomine/illya route in my head.
>>135990613
Are you the r9k guy?
>>135990816
Sadly no, I just always ignored the franchise. I tried out the VN years ago but couldn't make it through the prologue. To be perfectly honest, I saw an AMV with scenes from Fate/Zero, though it looked sick, decided I had to get through the VN before I could watch the anime, and here we are.
>>135990877
>>135991061
Right? I mean the whole orphan farm was a little much, but then the tofu scene comes up and its amazing. Then the guy goes and becomes MVP of the whole route
>>135991010
Tsukihime's getting a remake? I already decided to give it a shot, but I'll hold off if a new version's coming out
>>135991098
>>135991360
I don't get all the hate for Sakura. Clearly, the other heroines are better, but jesus, the poor bitch has had it rough. I mean, how would Rin have turned out with her life?
>>135991583
>Tsukihime's getting a remake
Yes, but as anon above said you could be waiting a very long time for it
>>135991583
Don't wait for the remake.
It'll also be quite different from the original, so you'll want to have read that before.
>>135991583
>Tsukihime's getting a remake?
It won't be released for a long time, just play the original.
>>135991583
You are not familiar with our boy Nasu's workpace it seems. Or the effectivity of the VN translation scene. It will take years before the remake comes out, and even longer for a translation. You'll be getting yout hands on it 2025.
>>135991583
>the poor bitch has had it rough.
I don't buy her shitty sob story and her character is just crap.
>>135991693
He's not slow if you look at the big picture. He's written a lot for his age.
>no anime yet
I want tohugIlya!
>>135991583
>I'll hold off if a new version's coming out
Anon, I asked /a/ if I should play Tsukihime now or wait for remake.
I ended up playing it since they told me to play it instead of waiting.
That was in 2012 or so.
>>135991803
Me too
>>135991785
He hasn't written anything notable since Mahoyo in 2011 though.
>>135991583
Sakura hate is 50% because of the character, 50% old meme. But the character is hated because of her aggravating role as the girl who faints all the time, her willingly giving in and becoming the bad guy despite not being directly controlled by AM, passive doormat behavior, her bad voice in the VN, unimpressive design and some weird reasons like that one anon that pops up every now and then and claims her skin is yellow.
>>135991867
To which he had already written a prototype decades ago.
>>135991576
No, I don't frequent that board
>>135991644
>>135991645
>>135991675
>>135991693
>>135991841
if that's the case, I'll put it on the to-do list after I get through Fate/Zero & F/HA.
>>135991772
I'd have a big dam sob story too if I was in her shoes. She didn't meet and overcome her challenges like Rin did, but Rin didn't have all the Shinji rape either. For all her failures, I still think she's sympathetic character
>>135991867
Fate/extra CCC in 2013
>Tsukihime OST was mostly pretty garbage with 2 absolutely legendary tracks
>one of them won't be in the remake because it was the ero scene track
Just cut my lines already, kouhai.
>>135992083
>tfw replaced the audio files with theanimeOST
>>135992070
Rin's challenges were pretty fucking baby level, there's a reason why her route doesn't revolve around "healing" her unlike most routes in both Fate and Tsuki.
>>135991867
He wrote CCC and Grand/Order since then, and is writing Tsukiihime on the side, which is now called Tsukihime R and takes place in a new city.
He considers CCC one of his best works
>>135991946
Atleast her voice and design have improved with the years. She's attractive now, she used to look like a popsicle.
>>135992083
Tsukihime soundtrack is the best soundtrack ever made.
Specifically the Tsuki-Bako version.
>>135992253
>Tsukihime R and takes place in a new city.
What.
>>135992070
>I'd have a big dam sob story too if I was in her shoes
It was a shit sob story. It was just here she went through some worm rape and got raped, please feel sad I made it as extreme as I could.
>>135991583
>I don't get all the hate for Sakura.
A lot of it is memes, that took on a life of their own after ten years here. Which she won't ever recover from on /a/, you can't mention her without the memetic associations.
The rest of it is personal taste or rationalizations. Also I see some "Well I hate her because this", "Well you like Kotomine when he does the same thing, or Kohaku", "Well, that's different, I don't fault them for it, dammit, I mean I like them, there's a difference. Okay, I really just hate her because she's boring, not because of that previous thing" sort of thing at times.
That's what I mean by rationalizations; people try to create a logical reason for the hate, but they love a character who does the exact same thing they just said was bad. So it can't be the trait itself that was bad. When really all it boils down to with Sakura is a far less deep or logical reason, you just didn't care for her. Sometimes people want a deep reason to justify the hate, but maybe you just didn't really like her.
It can be simple in the end
> Illya: Why couldn't you protect her smile /a/?
She's an adult and can take care of herself
> Rin: how can one girl be so best?
Tsundere are always bestest
> Who else agreed with Shirou at the end and decided Kotomine was actually a cool guy?
Certainly not me
> Shinji: How the hell is he not immediately killed in any route?
He did nothing wrong
> What scene inspired actual emotion in your shriveled cold heart anon? Pic related for me.
Rin's anal scene
>>135992178
Rin doesn't need healing her challenges throughout the story weren't baby level.
>>135991946
I can understand that (maybe not the yellow skin thing), she's very much a victim and often a helpless one, which can be tiresome. I liked her VA though, thought it suited her well. I also like that Gil technically jobbed to her. I definitely like her design the least though; she's gotta be miffed that Rider's always gonna be there upstaging her.
Additionally, I was really pleased that Rider made it to the end, probably too much. She's the best looking imo, but she's got so little screen time & development. I think I just liked having a character that was clearly 100% in Sakura's corner, or maybe that Rider was such an underdog compared to the other Servants.
>>135992310
>She's attractive now
Too bad her personality is still shit.
>>135992673
There is nothing worse than liking Kohaku.
Except Kohaku herself.
>>135992708
I hated how Rider's personality revolved around muh Sakura, truly a waste.
>What scene inspired actual emotion in your shriveled cold heart?
The mind of steel ending
>>135992799
Well there is F/HA.
>>135992649
Kohaku was just here she went through some Makihisa rape and couldn't play with the others, please feel sad I made it as extreme as I could.
>>135992673
Maybe because those character's had charisma while Sakura lacks it? I also see people like you trying to undermine others opinions on the matter because they don't share your love for shitty uncharismatic characters.
>>135992740
That's one thing Takeuchi can't change. For that we need to awaken the Nasu.
>>135992839
At least that's not as laughable as worm rape and the character isn't complete shit.
>>135992874
Characters don't need to be charismatic to be good characters.
>>135990613
1 - Can't be helped. She will forever live in our hearts as best girl.
2 - Rin is not only great by herself but she's OTP as fuck with Shirou
3 - Kotomine is pretty cool. I mean i'd still kill him given the chance but he's cool.
4 - He deserves to suffer before dying
5 - Archer vs Shirou will forever remain my favorite fight scene ever
>>135992839
I didn't feel bad for either's back story but Kohaku is infinitely more interesting than Sakura.
>>135992943
Does that fucking matter on the issue at hand? We are discussing how likable a character is and why people hate some. You undermine it saying that they both did the same thing but when one does it with charisma and the other doesn't the difference is as clear as night and day.
>>135992839
Kohaku is Sakura written correctly.
In a way that does not excuse her actions.
In a way that you can actually give a shit about her character and personality beyond "aww suffering"
>>135992874
Isn't that the point he's making? That you like Kohaku because she's an awesome character and hate Sakura because she's fainting whisper girl and the sob story is not the reason at all because they share it.
>>135992178
Rin is a goddamn champ, nothing can stop her. Wade through a lake full of curses & tentacles? no problem. Got some blockhead bleeding out from a lance to the heart? Boom, uses an irreplaceable heirloom to fix that shit. Getting crushed by Hercules himself? Nuke him in the face. Need to get a couple of blushing virgins to fuck to literally save their lives? Rolls up her sleeves and gets fluffing.
My point is that Rin is the best.
>>135993066
Rin was based in Fate and HF but garbage in UBW.
>>135992767
Let's make a list of all the people Kohaku killed or attempted to kill:
>Shiki, the boy who always waved at her in the window to come out and play with them
>Akiha, the girl who gave her the closest thing resembling family and took care of her
>SHIKI, a victim of his bloodline
>Herself
>Currybutt
The list of people she DIDN'T try to kill:
>Hisui, her sister, albeit she tried to kill virtually everyone she cared for
>The old guy that raped her, the perpetrator behind her plight
It's amazing how the best girl and worst girl can be sisters.
>>135992920
>worm rape
>laughable
I think you mean arousing.
>>135993167
>tfw Hisui will be mute in future installments
>>135993167
Well Makihisa died anyway.
>>135993041
Don't miss the point, when a character with charisma has a sob story it may improve them when a character who doesn't has a sob story it amplifies how unlikable they are.
>>135992874
Just because you think Sakura is not charismatic doesn't make it true nor does it mean everyone thinks the same.
There's a reason she's the 8th most popular TM character, and there's a reason a lot of people(leaving /a/ shitposters aside) like her in the west too.
Just because you don't agree on why people like her doesn't mean your
>She has no charisma
Is true. Maybe she doesn't appeal to you, but she has something that appeals to someone else.
So to resume: Don't think your opinions about something are facts.
>>135993066
>Rin is the best.
>>135993360
OC donut steel
>>135993087
Rin kicked ass in UBW also. She also cemented best girl status in that time skip.
>>135993349
Then don't go undermining my opinions saying shit like but they both did the same , the anons hating her just do it because it's a meme.
>>135992974
But did Shinji really suffer? aside from when Rin verbally fillet him, I think he was too deranged to comprehend suffering outside of being upset that something, yet again, did not go his way.
How much trouble could have been avoided if say, instead of just letting him leave Shirou's house, Shirou instead asks Saber to walk him home? Walking home of course being code for discreetly dragging Shinji into an abandoned alley and breaking his neck.
>>135993066
Rin a shit.
Lorelei can casually do the same shit Rin does with her strongest jewels
>>135993360
Do we have an edit of Coldsteel the hedgeheg with Solimon yet? Because we should.
>>135993360
what am i looking at here
>>135993467
I'm not even the same anon.
I'm just saying you need to stop talking like your opinion is a fact and that is universally agreed Sakura has no charisma or is boring or that nobody likes her because you don't. Faggot
>>135993501
The strongest servant
>>135993475
Rin is a better waifu for laifu.
>>135993468
Shinji...I don't get why he gets all the hate on /a/. FSN is just written to make him out as the bad guy, when really he's no worse than any of the 'protagonists' and a better person than most of them.
What are the main complaints? He raped Sakura and stole Rider to use in the war?
Okay, let's get this straight. He never fucking raped Sakura. He never did it. He never did it. He never did it. He never did it. He fucked Sakura.
Let me ask you this. WHO IN THE GAME DIDN'T FUCK SAKURA? You can't even name one fucking character who hasn't plugged her loose cunt! She is the kind of bitch who will act like she doesn't want it when she really does. She'll say No! while having multiple orgasms. Shinji knew this, he's a fucking ladies man. He knows what filthy whores like Sakura want.
And there's this other big bitch you guys have with him. He supposedly stole Rider and used her in the war for his own greed.
Objection! He was worried about his one and only precious sister. Is keeping your loved ones from a brutal war so wrong? When Shirou does the same thing to Saber it's like 'oh he's so manly', but when Shinji does it it's wrong? He just wanted to protect Sakura. He probably was going to use his Holy Grail wish to tighten her cunt back up or cure her syphilis or something.
The story was written to make that faggot Shirou look good. Objectively, Shinji is a far better character than Shirou. At least he has the balls to take action decisively instead of dicking around like Shirou, and if he weren't stuck with the weak ass servant Rider and no plothax he probably would have won the war.
>>135993503
I never said my opinion was fact. Don't put words in my mouth wormfag.
>>135993501
Solomon, the Biblical King
Master of 72 demon kings
Directly called the strongest existence among the Caster class of servants. At the moment though, he's beyond all servants.
>>135993528
Rin a Tsundere shit. Lorelei is a competent young girl leading the mage's association.
Translation patch for Grand Order when
>>135993241
You just had to do that.
>>135993567
He's only beyond them because he has a better container. It's been a known fact since forever that Heroic spirit>>>>Servant, Solomon has a container that lets him use all of his power while the rest are nerfed.
>Mordred: You’re telling me we’re second fiddles to you!?
>Andersen: Don’t let him goad you, Mordred. It’s not a matter of rank. It’s the vessel, the authority that he’s given. He’s nothing more than a Heroic Spirit in a greater vessel than ours. If we’re weapons used against individuals, he’s a weapon used against the world. He’s at the peak of Heroic Spirits having the same attribute. In other words, he’s a Servant with a Grand vessel.
>>135993571
>Rin a Tsundere shit.
Fantastic criticism lad.
>>135993624
No, he's beyond them because he's a guy that earned being able to use that better container in the past, because he's one of the strongest servants in existence and at the top of the Caster class.
Even without the better container, he'd still be better than 99%, even if it could at least be a fight at that point.
Being a Grand Servant just makes it where it can't be a fight.
![Screenshot_2016-01-11-13-34-52[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/oe0jIvk.png "Screenshot_2016-01-11-13-34-52[1].png")
>>135993591
>needing a patch
>>135993691
I want to play it forthe plot.
Rin a shit
/a/ shit taste shows itself again
Sakura>>>>>>>shit>Saber>>>Toesucka Rin
>>135993555
shinji plz
>>135993555
It's time to stop posting, Shinji.
>>135993733
So we start the falseflagging already. Let me guess next you're replying to yourself and making some sort of waifuwar.
>>135993686
>Summon Jesus
>beats Solomon up for being a biblical-scale shit
I don't know man.
>>135993468
Shinji knows 'Saber' is a servant class
>>135993767
>>135993791
>>135993811
Jesus is beyond the system, he's a divine spirit. Only way he can be summoned is if he wants to be summoned, summons himself basically, which probably won't happen since he promised that next time he comes down to Earth, he's bringing the apocalypse with him.
His only class is Saver
>>135991583
>I don't get all the hate for Sakura
Even Nasu hates her.
I still can't know if he hated her before the route and made her explicitly an obnoxious character as he was testing the whole "new" kind of heroine or if he genuinely wrote her as a drama queen and then regret it and started hating her.
>inb4 source : Nasu wrote Carnival and Sakura is clearly described as an obnoxious bitch in it
>>135993555
I don't even have to read this to know what it says.
>>135993874
Why do I love Shinji so much? It's pretty simple when I think about it. Shinji isn't just the best character in the series, he might just be the greatest character of all time. Just imaging him walking through Fuyuki, all the ladies swoon at his very scent. They know how he smells, the essence of his smell is sold under the the name of "Matou Orgasm." The very nature of Shinji is mystery. could he be playing a deeper game than even his creator realizes? The answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and has free will to do whatever he sees fit. However, Shinji is filled with such guile, such arcane craft that he does not even use these powers. Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of the Shinji is not one that is easily penetrated. Shinji is such a force of nature in his realm that nothing can truly touch him, the only thing keeping him bound to the page at all is his will to exist within the preordained boundaries of his world. Shinji is not only beyond the comprehension of us, he exists within a plane of true focus and beauty. Observe his playful smile, his gourgeous and rippling biceps, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes. His eyes, like pools of sapphire, provide the only glimpse into the true machinations of Shinji. Do not stare into them. Many good men have gone mad in the attempt. Shinji is not just a character, a formless collection of words and images, he is himself is the binding that holds the saga together. Without Shinji, the entire Fate series as we know them crumbles.
These are just of a few of the reasons why I like Shinji so much.
>>135993475
Raw power is irrelevant; while Rin is one of the most powerful Masters, its what she does with or without her power that makes her a best. Granted, I don't know anything about Lorelei, but stronger != better necessarily.
>>135993805
Merely stating the truth m8
>>135993946
>Even Nasu hates her
Bait.
>>inb4 source : Nasu wrote Carnival and Sakura is clearly described as an obnoxious bitch in it
Nasu didn't write Carnival phantasm nor is she described as obnoxious in it.
>>135993871
hence the "dragging" part of dragging into an abandoned alley. what's Shinji gonna do about it? Sakura still had Rider at that point.
>>135990613
1. Illya is the angel you can never reach
2. Rin was a best ever since tsundere
3. kirei is a badass just for being able to confront a servant like nothing
4. Die you !"## a shit
5. my heart become ice the moment gil kun did his thing in unlimited. it will never be warmed never
also played it recently
>>135993963
Not him but Lorelei is literally "the supreme mage of the present era" and she's nearing True Magic levels. She's the vice-director of the mage's association.
OVA anime about Tamamo's past when?
>>135994350
Right after CCC is translated.
>>135990613
Rinbest girl
Sakurabest slut
Illyaroute never
>>135994350
Is she burning?
left or right?
>>135994563
Right
>>135990613
5.pic related.
This scene is pure emotional destruction.
How does this NOT fuck someone up?
>>135994563
There is only one right answer.
>>135994350
OVA about Archer EMIYA when?
>>135994372
That's fantastic news!
Except it's not.
>>135994644
That scene was painful, but that's nothing compared to pic related, I was bawling my fucking eyes out
>>135994929
Least you have the manga entirely about her, centered around new special new Tamamo route
That no one wants to translate, because there aren't any big enough Tamamo fans out there.
I know people like to hate on Shinji and all that, but if you really think about it, he's not a bad person. He and Shirou were genuine friends, even eachother's only male friends (Issei only used Shirou like a tool), before they were torn apart by magic and the archery club. Shirou never really came to hate Shinji. And you can't really take a tsundere like Shinji's words at face value. If you consider that Shirou was a beter friend to Shinji that Shinji was to Shirou, imagine how hard it must have been for Shinji to go against Shirou.
Shinji is a prideful guy, so he obviously can't bring himself to do things that would damage that pride. That's just his personality, it doesn't make him a bad person. He says things he doesn't mean and does things he will regret. The plot of FSN is built to give Shinji a hard time, particularly by making him Shirou's enemy, probably the thing he wanted least.
Remember that Shinji initially wanted to work with Shirou, but the game doesn't even give you the option to consider it. He wanted to ally with him because he was his friend, if he only cared about winning he would have gone to Sakura. The game wants to give Shinji a hard time and turn him into a villain. Think of him like Harvey Dent from The Dark Knight, or even Berserker. Berserker is said to be the strongest capable of sweeping the other 6 Servants, but he ends up having one of the lowest kill counts. The game is designed to make the best of us fall so the underdogs like Shirou can rise.
>>135994563
>Still not scanned
>>135995052
>>135995348
Woah, is this from the newest chapter?
Got any more?
>>135993066
>Need to get a couple of blushing virgins to fuck to literally save their lives? Rolls up her sleeves and gets fluffing.
I've been meaning to ask. How did Rin know how to please a woman? She's had no experience at that sort of thing.
>>135996044
>>135996044
>How did Rin know how to please a woman?
Because she's one?
>>135994053
Not him but
> nor is she described as obnoxious in it
She's clearly described as a girl who lets her brother misstreat and rape her so she can complease herself in her soap opera heroine role.
I think I even remember her saying something along the lines of :"ohh, why do I have to suffer so much...? (I got a nice body thought) " after asking Rider to not interfere when her brother "rapes" or abuses her.Eri really hated Sakura.
>>135990613
>4. Shinji: How the hell is he not immediately killed in any route?
Shinji is best boy.
>>135990613
>4. Shinji: How the hell is he not immediately killed in any route?
To serve as a reminder of what could have been. He's an innately more interesting character than Shirou, he find himself in a more interesting situation and if anything he has even greater obstacles to overcome. Nasu made a mistake by writing the story centered around the autistic sword fetishist instead of writing it with Shinji as the protagonist.
>>135997352
>>135998040
Go home already, Shinji
>>135998040
>>135995522
This is actually very true.
>>135990613
What do you think about Rider?
>>135998532
Shinji is unironically one of my favorite characters.
>>135998907
I really liked Rider; she's probably the least developed servant, but holy shit, look at that beautiful face. And my gosh, her voice is pure sex.
Since she was like, the first servant to bite it in the first two routes, it was all the more enjoyable to see her shine in HF, even if it was in relatively small ways. She can't slug it out with most of the other servants, but she was able to save the day more than once. I feel like she was justly rewarded in the end for having to put up with being so misused in the other routes.
>>135994350
Why is she the best servant out there?
>>136000469
If she was the best, then people would be translating her manga.
>>135991789
In the next 10 years
>>135993874
Don't forget rank A wolves
>>135998907
Really boring and kind of a bitch.
>>136003135
Did we ever get some kind of explanation on this from Nasu? I thought he said something during the UBW anime about him not having God Hand activated before the war started or something.
>>136004215
How can Herc even be summoned if he's a god?
>>136004567
He's only a demigod
>>136004583
He was granted apotheosis in his final moments. Only the mortal, human half of him was burned away, but the immortal, divine half of him could not die and was ascended to godhood instead.
Here are some facts:
Rider, Caster, Taiga and double-meidos are far superior to the main heroines.
Illya is a cunt, people just ignore what she does.
Shinji isn't that bad, he's just petty.
The more I think about it, the more I realize that I don't actually like any character from Fate.
>I promise. I'll be your superhero.
HF Shirou best Shirou.
>>135991360
>worst character
Yes
>best route
For me, she ruined HF too hard for that.
>>135992178
UBW is pretty much the EMIYA route.
>>135990613
>4. Shinji: How the hell is he not immediately killed in any route?
because he is the best boy.
For some reason i like him, i do not know what is wrong with me
>>136005405
I like him too.
He has the selfish petiness that the average eleven doesn't.
Makes him feel more human.
>>135993087
No, she was at her very worst in HF. Edgy cunt who just made things worse for everyone over and over, only to go "oops i fucked up lol" at the very end and expect a little hug to make up for everything.
>>135997265
It also happens to be a terrible adaptation that portrays her completely out of character. It's only amusing as a parody of how ridiculously delusional Sakura haters are regarding her, but that doesn't justify ruining the source material.
>>136004788
Don't think about it too hard, the nasuverse is inconsistent as fuck
>>136006437
Only filthy secondaries think that.
>>135990816
Some people are born later than others.
>>136004215
>Did we ever get some kind of explanation on this from Nasu?
There are plenty of magical animals in Einzebern forest, which is how Archer survived its noted.
Its said Herc didn't have godhand turned on at the time, so that he wouldn't kill Ilya.
And also Godhand doesn't exactly protect against every little thing, more like it just makes it so that thing can't kill him, perhaps.
Pick one, because one was maybe right, I forget.
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By default, God Hand is a Noble Phantasm that's active at all times. However, it CAN be turned off.
