Evangelion is shit, Gurren Lagann is the objectively superior anime. It would be pretty good, if there wasn't all this psychological bullshit getting in the way of all the action, much unlike Gurren Lagann. I mean if I wanted to watch a bunch of kids deal with personal issues I would bring a camcorder into a middle school.
>I mean if I wanted to watch a bunch of kids deal with personal issues I would bring a camcorder into a middle school.
If you brought a camcorder to a middle school they'd probably be watching Burden Lagann
nigger you what? it was meant to be stupid and over the top, its like one punch man, its meant to not be taken seriously, evangelion takes itself way too seriously and was shit
What the fuck? Your argument doesn't even make any sense.
So, everything has to be "lolrandom" for you to be good?
>OPM is good
Fuck off back to MAL; only Murata's art is good
The anime is fucking terrible
faggot get the dick out of your ears, i never said opm was good, i compared how they were both satire, and no that doesnt mean "lolrandom" is good, but when it makes fun of shows that take itself too seriously, like dbz or evangelion
>evangelion takes itself way too seriously
Evangelion actually expresses self-awareness in an interesting way that goes beyond shallow "wink wink, this is dumb, haha" shit common to anime. Many times by not taking itself too seriously.
Gurren Lagann isn't a parody you dipshit. It's far more lighthearted and optimistic than Evangelion but it's themes are equally as genuine and it's story is intended to be taken seriously.
are you fucking shitting my nuts? im sorry, but please tell me how fighting against the moon, taking control over it, and shooting hooks into space to pull out another moon from literally nowhere is supposed to be taken seriously? taken seriously? thats the most autistic thing ive heard all day
what underlying drama? and even though i used this example before, i find it a good example and i will use it again, >One Punch Man
the events in it are justified within context too arent they? but its still a parody, and everyone agrees that its a parody. So unless you can convince me of some underlying drama i missed, or a serious turning point, TTGL is a parody of giant fighting robot animes all around
You know that whole mess about the humans defeating the Spiral King? The antispiral? Nia and Simon? Kamina's death? That's the drama and that's all played straight.
This pretty clearly shows how little you know about the mecha genre. TTGL is supposed to be the culmination of and the celebration of mecha genre. It really doesn't make fun of it at all.
The blatant shift in tone when Asuka comes into the picture and the inclusion of anime conventions not present before (the panty shot and consequent slapping, something turned on its head during episode 5 with Rei). The entire way the battle in an EVA is presented differs from before where it was entirely a brutal and emotional struggle. Look at the comical defeat by Israfel, or that whole episode if you want.
>want to write about a super fighting robot
>editor says demography is important
>stick not one but multiple pilots in the robot
>3x the shounen drama
>suddenly seminal work
And once Gundumb came along and took this line of thought to it's natural conclusion and turned it into a full blown sentai the money was practically printing itself.
>This pretty clearly shows how little you know about the mecha genre.
oh here you go, trying to be all high and mighty with a "ha your such a plebeian" attitude, yes, that is drama, but it does not make the show any less of a parody, kamina died for story progression and character development in simon, and honestly the storyline between the spiral king and the antispiral was a bit leapfrog, and went all over the place, but an anime needs a story, yea? So i admit, you are correct there was drama, except it was drama that played into the parody part of the show. And what about the underlying message? in literature, the underlying message is the most important part, and in satire works, the underlying message is largely made fun of, so what is the message that TTGL gives?
IT JUST COMES
TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN
The message is about the infinite potential of humanity. This is stated expressly in the final episode. That's the theme of the show and it's completely genuine.
Also it's not being high and mighty if I actually know more than you.
>Also it's not being high and mighty if I actually know more than you.
yknow here i am thinking i could have a legitimate debate about TTGL, but silly me
okay, you have not proven that TTGL is not a parody, but yes, you have proven that it has drama, a storyline, and an underlying tone, but you cant explain the over the top action and ridiculousness
The over the top ridiculousness is a part of mecha. There's always been certain mecha shows in which ridiculous, over-the-top action was the norm, specifically in the form of shows like Getter Robo. Additionally, Imaishi has always been an action director and he's always liked silly, ridiculous stuff over more grounded scenes. That's just his personal style and that's another reason why the over-the-top style was chosen.
Gurren Lagann didn't impress me at all.
The first half was great for the most part, but the second half was mediocre at best.
Especially the ending was a letdown.
Especially the death scenes of the Gurren Lagann members left me completely cold. Why the hell should I care about these characters when the anime never bothered to make me invested?
The teacher episode was by far the best of the second half.
Also NGE/EoE is superior.
The only thing Anno's depression brought about was a significant change in the tone of the show. It's not the reason that Eva is symbolic or "deep". If someone says otherwise they either don't know what they're talking about or they're just shitposting.
The fact that you are bringing evangelion from 1995 to try and compare it shows that Eva is the more influential anime. There are tons of anime better than Eva but few that are as much influence on the anime industry. Now you know and knowing is half the battle. You can now go back to listening to your Pokemon rap. Asuka is best girl btw.
What's so good about Gunbuster?
I'm serious, I've watched it and it failed to do anything significant aside from being influential.
Mediocre characters, mediocre writing and mediocre execution. There is only so much you can do with 6 fucking episodes and it greatly suffered because of it.
It just doesn't hold up today.
You can try Madoka or serial experiments Lain if you wanna watch something quick try Paprika these are all similar to Eva and might have a big impact o. You depending on how dark your soul already is.
I have already watched Madoka.
I liked it, especially the ending, but it wasn't as good as NGE for me.
In the end I only really cared about a Homu and I only did so on a shallow level, compared to the main characters of NGE.
Lain is on my to-watch list.
I'll check out Paprika but It will most likely be too short to make me invested enough.
I meant GITS. The execution in the movie was pretty much perfect.
It's kind of like NGE in that regard, perfect execution of a simple theme/concept.
I didn't mean to write this, but it sounds okay somehow
Yeah that's usually my problem with movies, they are simply too short to make me invested into the characters, which is a huge part of my enjoyment regarding anime.
Yeah I've heard much about it. I'll put it on top of my list, thanks anon.
Don't start shit OP, come on.
Both shows are different enough to not be put together and have clashing fanbases. There's no right or wrong choice.
Those who prefer Evangelion like darker/edgier plots with somewhat "deep" meanings and lines of thought in their anime.
Those that prefer Gurren Lagann just like
My main gripe is that the movie introduced too many characters and did too little with them, simply because the movie was too short.
Prime example is Lady Miyako. She felt redundant in the movie and basically just came and went.
One could say I enjoyed the movie less because I already knew the manga.
Another problem is the fast pacing, which is also a result of its length.