Sup /a/, just finished up watching the last episode of Eureka 7 and I need something to feel the void in my heart, and while we're on the topic why the fuck is AO hated so much? Just finished the first episode and it doesn't look too bad at all really.
THIS SONG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T9Yygju9IY
>>135972790
>Just finished the first episode
Just keep watching you blundering homosexual - it's terrifying bad . And the original E7 is AIGHT, but nothing special.
>>135972888
How? I mean I'm reading these reviews and it looks like a bunch of retards over the internet just desperately wanted BONES to canonize some neckbeard's shitty EurekaXRenton fanfiction. Or they desperately try to compare AO to the original series when it's meant to be a deviation.
>>135972790
ao is ok tier but it wont touch u like the original does
>>135972888
>the original E7 is AIGHT, but nothing special
are you shitting me?
it was such a genuine love storybetween dominic and anemone. plus get it by your hands. and tiger track.
>>135972872
everysong in eureka is fucking god tier
>>135972790
You'll want to kill yourself the further along you get. AO was really a clusterfuck that made little sense. Eva was easier to understand.
>>135972999
Fuck you Anemone and Dominic was so fucking forced it wasn't even funny. There wasn't even any building like there was for Renton and Eureka. Anemone was an unlikeable spoiled brat and Dominic was a beta bitch-boy. It felt like they just wanted to shove it in there at the end to please the fanfiction writers.
>>135972888
>E7 is AIGHT
TRIGGERED
You obviously cant appreciate true love fucking asexaul
God you don't know how bad I want another Eureka 7 show. AO was so bad and delivered in such an awful way that I feel like BONES really didn't do credit to Renton and Eureka as characters. They abandoned literally EVERY plot device from the original series that made it great and fucked with original concepts like Scub Coral and Seven Swells and made them all shitty and confusing. And don't get me started on fucking interdimensional time travel bullshit and Secrets, like seriously what the fuck?
>You will never meet your Eureka
>>135973046
sorta tru. It seems obvious Dominic loved Anemone from the beginning and they should be together despite the fact their characters arent very likable
>>135973105
i didnt really undestand all that shit till my second run through
>>135973197
>he ran through twice
>>135972790
>and while we're on the topic why the fuck is AO hated so much?
Remember the whole plot about how Renton and Eureka, a human and Coralian, falling in love to prove that the two species can come to an understanding?
AO retcons that and makes Dewey objectively right. All Coralian/Human hybrid kids turn to stone statues in E7's atmosphere
Best Eureka
>>135973240
im a good runner i was on track (not really thats a lie i played ice hockey)
>>135972790
Don't watch AO. Or watch up to the midway point. I understand the impetus for a sequel to deviate from its parent but AO in its later episodes just shits on everything E7 tried to accomplish.
>>135972872
Eureka 7 music party
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N23j1mxqkrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF9u2oHOmqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-aPxbFI850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7tbG58lj7Y&index=15&list=PLDBB557BE21BA831D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlkj_FVL0so
>>135973197
Yeah I watched the series a second time too, that doesn't make it good though. All I wanted was another series that focused on the aftermath of the second SOL, AO was a good character but he was put in an environment with characters that just felt dead, like they had no substance at all. Also wasn't it the point at the end of the first series that Renton and Eureka were supposed to prove that Humans and Corallians can co exist by having the Human-Corallian hybrid child? If that's the case then doing the whole "back in time in a different timeline" thing just kind of fucked over the original series in the most un-interesting kind of ways. I don't know, I don't know how I feel about AO but it's likely nothing positive. I don't have the same feelings that E7 gave me.
>>135973289
thanks mate im playing them all at the same time to get the full effect
>>135973314
ya 100% agree maybe if i just had a nice OVA of R and E after they run away doing romantic lovey dovey shit i could feel whole again
>>135972790
God AO was such trash. Different writers totally killed everything E7 was going for and just wrote a bland piece of shit.
Spoilers:Time reset fucks every relationship Ao's ever built in the series in his own timeline, rendering them actually pointless - nobody remembers or even knows who he is.
The brown girl is going to be around 40 since she didn't time travel, and the blonde girl he'll likely never meet.
That and it's never explained who the fuck Johansson is, since he was supposed to arrive to Ao's timeline via time slip, but supposedly Ao "fixed" that by making it so the Scub never traveled to the past, thus making it impossible for Johansson to arrive in that timeline. Yet after all that, his book is still present in the past (somehow), either meaning BONES fucked up, or Ao fucked up as the time slips still occur.
And that's just part of it what I hated about it. I'd still watch it, but it certainly left a shitty taste in my mouth. I just treat it as an alt. universe that has no bearing on the original series any (like the movie).
>>135973488
I tuned out after episode 13, "phenomenon of the disappearing scub corals" killed it completely for me. I thought all the Scub Corals left with the Nirvash at the end of the original series? Just tiny changes that eventually tore the entire thing to shit halfway through made me hate the series and it's writers.
>>135972790
AO never happened.Literally.
So what would be a good series to watch after Eureka 7? It was by far one of the best shows I've ever seen, and that's saying something.
>>135973585
>>135973488
>>135973537
older renton and eureka had me diamonds other than that fuck ao
>>135972999
Well Dominic had feelings for her almost from the get go, Anemone only developed feelings for him after he left her side towards the end. My only problem is that it felt hella rushed in at the end with only a few eps, they could've done it much better if they give them a few more moments together earlier on. But I didnt really mind either of them and I have a weak spot for forced happy endings.
>>135973125
>you will never save anemone
>>135973646
I'm still madDominic and Anemone, or anyone else from Gekkostatedidn't show up at all.
>>135973683
She turned me off permanently when she was licking that red Jam shit off all over her face, I don't know it just grossed me the fuck out and every time she appeared after that she was slobbering uncontrollably or had a manic look in her eye that made me worried that if she ever gave me head she'd bite my dick off like a rabid dog.
>>135973694
we dont want ao we just want more original
>>135973260
All Eurekas are best Eureka.
>>135973248
>makes Dewey objectively right
Well not really? Dewey just wanted to eradicated the Coralians because Earth was mankind's homeland and he didn't want to share. I don't think he ever got into his opinion of Human-Coralian hybrids.
The whole toxic to hybrids atmosphere thing is such bullshit anyway. The fact that Renton and Eureka can even reproduce means that Eureka just has an altered human genome in her, where the fuck does "sensitivity to trapar that results in hardening insides" part come from?
God AO sucked. The writers were hacks to begin with but hacking up Eureka Seven to cobble together AO's convoluted bullshit is just unacceptable.
>>135973646
Actually come to think of it all Eurekas are best Eureka except for MILF Eureka who is bestest Eureka.Though Eureka was a MILF from the get-go? Even through adoption...
>>135973787
its almost like shes crazy
>>135973787
Wild dogs need love too.
>>135973813
>I promise to protect you Eureka!
>No it's okay if I kill Eureka by doing some weird shit with this weird quartz gun shit thing because Eureka knew what she was signing on for
>Besides it's our responsibility!
>Okay dad, mom! I'm going to kill myself to save you!
>Oh by the way secrets will never have existed which means the Scubs will have never had any reason to enter my timeline to escape them!
>Meaning I will likely never have existed making the entire plot of AO completely pointless!
I hated AO
So
Fucking
Much
>>135973900
of all the things i would love to do with eureka and physcho brat like hand holding and such this is not one of those things
>>135973801
As is the case with sequels. If you're not pandering to the original audience then you might as well be making a new IP. But I guess that takes more effort. So why not just bastardize an old IP with some writer who isn't invested in the original story's script instead?
SHONEN NO HAATO
>>135973787
pretty hot imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6dOt5PF-Sk
Remember when Naru murdered a bunch of people and then nobody ever mentioned it again?
>>135973985
for fanservice (if you can call it that) its top notch
>>135974020
god i fucking hate naru
>>135974039
Sometimes, crazy is sexy.
AO practically went out of its way to avoid anything that made the original likable, then took a big steaming apricot-jelly shit all over the original. Then it killed Chiaki Omigawa's career.
But at least we got Fleur, Elena and Noah
>>135974099
kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckOlIquCrCA
>you will never lift with your qt coralian gf in the orange afternoon skies to this song
just kill me senpai
>>135974199
It's okay, sssssssh it's gonna be fine.
>>135974020
Why was Naru even a character? It was implied Fleur wanted to fuck our blue haired Chad anyway.
>>135973537
>When Ao is about to fly into the Scub Coral and Fleur is begging for him not to go
>Ao says he'll be back and they'll all celebrate or somet shit
>And he's about to say he loves her
>"And...?"
>feed cuts out
FOREVER
M A D
A
D
>>135974199
>you will never lift with your qt coralian gf in the orange afternoon skies to this song
stop torturing me man reality blows
goodnight gotta sleep for a job i hate for shit pay then go to a shit school with shit teachers then come back here and shitpost
>>135974199
When it comes to entertainment I'm usually easygoing and don't get bothered too easily, but Ao left me pissed. Whichever wise guy had the bright idea of creating a sequel with none of the original production crew should be permanently ejected from the world of animation.
And that movie... ugh.
Why can't they just make proper E7?
>>135974753
BONES isn't known for their cunning sequels.
Drop that shit now.
Do it before it is too late.
Live with the knowledge of Cherry Blossoms.
>>135974771
Besides, I see another, proper E7 series coming fairly soon. Honestly the fan reaction to AO had BONES in a tail spin. In the poll the posted on their facebook page asking what fans wanted to see next the majority of people said they wanted an E7 series that focused on AO being raised with Renton and Eureka and had more of a "after the fact" premise with the old crew of the Gekko.
>>135974854
>that episode
What were they thinking?
>>135974880
Have fun
Everything that AO was not.
>>135973105
I honestly have no idea what the Seven Swell was but I'm okay with that
As bad as AO was it had a pretty fucking dank OST too though.
>>135974811
I'd be so ridiculously down for a comfy SoL Eureka series that revolves around Gekko and a happy Renton-family.
>>135975043
Seven Swell is a bust of Trapar Waves that occurs when the two pilots of a Nirvash with an Archetype come into an emotional agreement. It's basically just a giant burst of visible, colorful trapar waves. But AO made it seven pillars of light instead and made it that the Swells "take people back in time to other dimensions" and is how Renton had been travelling to other dimensions looking for Eureka and Ao.
>>135975082
Well buckle up buckaroo we just might see one in the next few years, but it'll probably be a while if ever. I can't imagine BONES not wanting to rectify that aborted pile of shit that was Astral Ocean.
>>135974811
Fat chance, anon. E7 always struggled to with their franchise efforts but AO has killed any chance of that happening.
Fuck you Bones for ruining one of my favorite series. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>135975191
Please let me have hope that one day Eureka 7 can be redeemed.
X'amd was superior
WHERE'S ALL OF THE LOVE FOR THE THIRD OPENING? IT WAS MY FUCKING FAVORITE.
>>135973260
Final form > Milf > Movie > 1st form > cancer but I love them all
>>135975765
This. Feels bad knowing I'll never be able tokissa winged Coralian girl in my life...
The movie is fine besides using supporting cast members as random assholes and at least has an interesting idea and some neat references behind it. It's not what people signed up for but it's an interesting movie to think about and fits with the ideas of the people who created the franchise.
AO is none of those things, it uses main cast members and existing terms in retarded ways as part of primary continuity, its ideas are all fucking retarded and don't hold up to any scrutiny (nor ever have a point), and the references are random and entirely nonsensical. It's like a -really- shitty version of Nadesico more than Eureka Seven.
The game sidestory was pretty good for the budget and development quality the games had, it was a nice bit of story within the universe with a slightly more military robot bent but at the same time some even more wacky hippy shit. Not sure how the manga version is.
>>135972790
Goddamn this show was amazing
>>135976604
The manga had some nice highlights - expanded development of Dominic and Anemone is probably the best part of it - but otherwise it destroyed everything that made E7 good, much like AO. But in a massacred version of the main story, not a spinoff. For goodness sakes, in the manga the scub coral are literally coral from Earth's oceans that got twisted and sentiented via pollution and are now straight-up evil and want to wipe out humanity. Eureka vanishes with the coral in the end, leaving Renton forever alone. Dominic also dies, leaving Anemone in a wheelchair also forever alone. Pretty sure there's a bunch of other terrible crap like that as well, but I can't remember all the details.
Still, for a big fan of E7 I'd still recommend it, just for the expanded Anemone/Dominic development which you can cut out from the rest and treat as canon.
I'll never understand how they took the wonderful story from E7 and stomped on it the way they did in AO
They had a perfect opportunity to expand upon the existing lore and characters and went the ass backwards route instead
>>135977095
Oh, also Eureka and Anemone actually meet and spend some time hanging out in the manga. That was pretty interesting to watch. They never actually meet face-to-face in the entire show after all.
>>135977095
I meant Gravity Boys & Lifting Girl (which is apparently a New Wave prequel actually) but I guess I never read the "main" manga either.
>>135977170
Ohh that one.
Funny thing, I bought that one with the main manga in english like ten years ago when I first started getting into anime/manga. Still haven't read it yet. Really wish I'd read the main series manga before buying it though, dang. Lesson learned.
Not that I've bought any kind of manga since then anyways.
>>135976604
>manga version
Pretty good except instead of renton and eureka having a happy ending togethershe dies and he's left as a lonely sad sack.Really did not care for that, not one fucking bit.
>>135977095
>>135977142
The art was defiantly the saving grace of the manga. Some pages are just amazing.
>>135977334
Man I forgot about the art, been ages since I read it. Yeah, there really is a lot of great stuff in the manga for fans, too bad the rest is an atrocity.
>>135977095
Fucking damn. NO RELATION SHIPS ALLOWED. Poor anemone stuck in a wheelchair alone. I would've loved seeing dominic take care of her
is the movie worth a watch?
Why is bones so utterly incapable of recreating any of the magic that the original TV series had? Every other attempt at eureka has been garbage.
>>135973599
noein. but not too soon, as they are a bit similar.
>>135974020
>mfw Naru just got worse and worse as a character
>>135972872
>>135973289
If Aphex Twin wasn't an influence on this I'll fucking go pro-skub.
Something I'm shocked nobody brought up yet, and is the actual problem with AO is fucking TRUTH
>>135972790
Watch King Gainer
It's got a similar whimsical but not childish mecha feel
>>135978149
There's so many problems with AO that Truth alone is only a small part of it.
The only good thing about the entire show is adult Renton who looks like a combination of best personal traits of Holland without his midlife crisis and anger issues.
Yeah AO was bad but Fleur was a best girl
Anybody remember the days AO was airing and as it got worse over time we ended up having delusion threads? Those were fun
>>135978048
>Why is bones so utterly incapable of recreating any of the magic that the original TV series had?
Because there was no magic to begin with, you were just too young and new at the time to realize how derivative E7 was.
>AO
All I wanted to see is grown up Eureka and Renton going on an adventure on Nirvash V3 and doing wacky shit.
>>135976604
>The movie is fine
>Reused animation from TV series
>Plot makes no fucking sense >Unremarkable OST
>Ending is balls
It is funny to see the double standards applied here.
>>135973930
Did you even fucking bothered to pay attention?
>>135978504
The orignal show was good but it seems like they stumbled into the plot that people liked. Her name was going to have to do with finding her memories that were scattered in seven places. During the anime run it seemed like they figured out the romance was going to be the main drive of the show.
>>135976604
The movie was awful
>>135972790
>and while we're on the topic why the fuck is AO hated so much?
They had 24 episodes to establish and conclude a plot.
They used about 3 episodes for that with the rest being battle of the week and every 4th episode having some mild bit of foreshadowing for something that gets dropped or resolved offscreen anyway.
Most people as it was airing assumed it would be 50 episodes again because it was going fucking nowhere and we didn't have an exact episode count officially until right at the end.
tl;dr Bones
AO was a mistake.
>>135979065
It wasn't a mistake, it was just bad.
>>135972790
I remember reading the manga years and years ago and I loved it
Was the anime good?
>>135974854
Why is Hap the best?
>>135973240
That anon must have been a pretty chillin dude to go through the gauntlet twice.
>Older Renton
>Holland's voice
WTF BONES
>>135979191
>Was the anime good?
If you mean the original series, you seriously need to watch it. Episode 50 is magic and entirely captured what the series was building up to from the very start.
If you mean Ao, no.
>>135978504
I think calling it "derivative" is a bit much. There's no problem with being unoriginal, there's nothing new under the sun and all. What's important is that you take some idea and implement it well. Eureka Seven did this, and the series has held up for me rewatching it after having seen many other series.
Even if you can easily compare points to sources of inspiration, it feels like its own work and that is what matters to me.
>>135978820
>stumbled
More like had key moments embedded throughout that made people forget what a slog it was, notice how people never actually talk about the plot in E7 just the characters. Its a perfect example of more isn't always better and had the series kept its grounded coming of age boy meets girl meets robot story rather than just another Evangelion-esque plot in the second half it would have been better. AO would have been better if they have just stuck with the MotW format they were going with originally instead of the Orguss-esque plot that it became it also had "too many cooks" syndrome when it was obvious that they had too much to work with on their plate which is why so many elements and characters wind up not mattering that and the lack of key moments to make people forget about the mess of the plot didn't help it much.
>>135979737
Agreed the parts that I like are all the characters mostly the Gekkostate.
Would have been much happier with a gundam style story instead of trying to do the whole alien intelligence part. It even might have been okay when they find they were on earth all along and all the metaphysical stuff could have just been meaningless junk. With Eureka and Renton facing the fact they don't have a greater purpose but just each other.
