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Its starting

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-01-09/broccoli-lays-down-the-law-for-dojin/.97335

>The new free-trade agreement called the Trans-Pacific Partnership has prompted a review of Japanese copyright laws to bring them more in line with international standards.
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>have CR premium
>nothing to worry about

k
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>>135924241
And what about doujins?
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>>135924280
>have gf
>no need for doujins
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Remember to sage and report.
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I'm pretty sure they've been able to do this for years already. Most publishers just look the other way because they see dojinshi for what they are: free advertising.

Not to say that the TPP and TTIP won't be disgusting. OP's post was just fear mongering in the wrong direction.
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>>135924420
Wasn't TPP something about lawyers being able to sue for copyright infringement without the need for consent from the IP holders?
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>>135924320
>not reading doujins in front of your gf so she get ideas
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Finally, being born in this shit ass country that's part of the brics payed off
Go nuts china lads, kick america and japan right where it matter, the bank.
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>>135924420
>Most publishers just look the other way because they see dojinshi for what they are: free advertising.
They can't under TPP. Thats the worst problem.

>OP's post was just fear mongering in the wrong direction.
I wish that was true.
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>>135924019
FUCK THIS SHIT

FUCK THE MURICANS

FUCK YOU NIGGERS
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>>135924468
TPP is much MUCH bigger than that, but yes, it gives IP holders the right to do pretty much anything they want.
For a not so related exemple, this dude from a phama cartel managed to sue canada over 1b obamas using early TPP bs.
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>>135924019
So what you are saying is I need to go buy some large drives and archiving like a motherfucker.

Are WD Blues still the best bang for the buck?
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>>135924468
The TPP is full of horrible shit including incentives for ISPs to "in good faith" outright block access to sites based on perceived copyright infringement. But yes, it also involves being able to sue someone without owning the IP rights.

>>135924480
What I meant was he was implying that the TPP was the thing that allowed this. Dojinshi have been a grey area for a long time, mostly because the rights holders just turn a blind eye.
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>>135924019
>tfw can get sued for cosplaying
>tfw can get sued for discussing
>tfw get sued for thinking
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thanks Obama
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>>135924582
yep, grab as much you can right now
yes.
>>135924594
LONG LIVE THE PARTY
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>>135924619
Yes, this appears to be the culmination of his work in office. You can blame him (and our shitty congress for not overturning this and being bought and paid for old shits) for this.
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Fuck. I have so much shit to fap to. It can't end like this.
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>>135924592
>it also involves being able to sue someone without owning the IP rights.
Sorry I'm confused, do you mean A can sue B because B violated C's copyright while A and C are completely unrelated?
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Don't you just love the smell of FREEDOM in the morning?
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>>135924592
>What I meant was he was implying that the TPP was the thing that allowed this.
Its not about allowing. Its about enforcing, right now the IP owners can say "Don't do X" and then don't fucking bother to enforce it. But with TPP if they say "Don't do X" and then don't enforce it, then they loose the right to say "Don't do X". Eg. if they let doujins fly, they loose all IP rights used in those doujins.
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>>135924691
Exactly.
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>>135924682
Literally download Exhentai

If you take out all the western and 3DPD, I wonder just how much space is taken up on their drives?

Shit, If it means the master collection that is panda is going to go down, I wouldn't mind shelling out some cash right now to get a copy of their drives for future use.
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what is even the point of this TPP shit?

All it seems to do is butcher fan-creations, something I wouldn't have thought businesses would want
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>>135924748
Well above 20 TB. Exhentai is at least 40 TB now.
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>>135924723
But does A have to give C the money?
Like, I can't go sue my local coffee shop because they have a starbucks like logo and pocket the cash right?
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>>135924019

Anime studios won't touch Doujin artists or cosplayers. It'll be the likes of Nintendo and Square Enix throwing around the C&D threat letters.

Fan sub groups should be fine too, until a series gets picked up. But don't studios usually look to pirates to gauge interest as to whether or not spend the money localizing a series? It's more a symbiotic relationship than a parasitic one
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>>135924760
>I wouldn't have thought businesses would want
Depends on what kind of business. The ones pushing TPP have more than enough money to do their own advertisments and make their own merchandise. So anyone else doing it would be damaging.

Its the small ones who are hurt by TPP.
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>Burgers are not satisfied with ruining their own country they gotta do this
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>>135924799
This agreement is not about weebs, it's about the big boys. Otaku interests just get caught in the crossfire.
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>>135924760

Businesses want complete control.

It's more than just about chinese cartoons and video games, it's also about big medicine and big agriculture and corporate-owned intellectual properties whose Trademark will last 1000 years.
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>>135924828
Look up the TTIP. If you're living in EU you're gonna have to deal with this just as much as burgers do.
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>>135924760
Cigarette companies, drug makers, processed food, that type of shit.
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>>135924019
>Broccoli
Do they think people will listen to them?
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Time to kill Puchiko
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>>135924853
That's his point.
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>>135924760
America is ran by corporations and want more power and control. It's just that really
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>>135924769
Best bang for your buck on newegg for WD Blues are the 4TB at $32.50/TB ($130 each) So 20TB would cost you $650

That's not too terrible at all, how much would that be compressed? Bet you could knock off a good huck of the space if you deleted duplicates considering there quite a few on there.
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Two towers weren't enough.
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>>135924769
Not just for all the english/jp manga and doujin. Nowhere close to that.
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>>135925019
You're literally cutting out the majority of the site by volume if you stick to only English translated stuff. Why would you do that?
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>>135925009
Don't worry, they have more to crush your airplane on.
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>>135925061
I didn't say just english translated stuff. I said eng/jp. There are a few korean/chinkshit that don't have jp but that's worthless and picking through dupes would be a pain.
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>>135925061
>>135925019
Oops, my bad. I see you posted jp too. It's still a lot more than you'd think.
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>>135925009
They did it themselves
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Well one of the better things about this is all fanarts will be kill.
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>>135925009
I'm sure Return of The King filled that hole then
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>>135924505
Corporations don't have national allegiances.
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>All this blaming the US for international corps.
Ok
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>>135924760
quick and easy just for my dear anon
>japan is fighting china for oil on northen seas
>australia feels the economical heat from china
>they start pushing TPP big time, obama can't ignore anymore
>EU makes their own version of the bill
>everyone shits their pants because wikileaks does their thing and widespreed panic ensures across every country that isn't china russia or india.
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>>135924019
Fucking hell. It should be the other way round, the west needs to pull that stick out of it's ass and get rid of it's ridiculouly prude culture
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>>135925174
The TPP is Obama's son.
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Does /pol/ ever gets tired of being scared of everything and expecting the end of the world everyday? I don't understand how they can enjoy themselves when they seem afraid of any single thing.
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>>135925174
Who's the one who drafted the TPP?
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FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUCK
When is this shit going to take effect? I need to stockpile my anime.
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quick which orwellian nightmare has corps being in control
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It's sad to see this happening but I think this is a desperate attempt by the US to keep big companies from fleeing the country and leaving americans unemployed.
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>>135925106
It's ~140k or so. If you take out duplicates you're down to around 80k. That's completely manageable.

>>135925118
Having fanart killed is not a good thing, the fuck are you going on about? All the pictures on boorus and rule34 in general could be removed.
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>>135925231
Abaddon
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>>135924849

Businesses just want more money. Research has shown that data mining and tailoring highly specific advertising to the individual, along with milking/promoting brands, is the best way to make money.

Why is Force Awakens the highest grossing movie of all time? It success is really all about the Star Wars brand that has been built up over 16 years (not 30, sixteen).

I'm sure most corporations would want Anonymous dead. We not only not buy what they want, we try to actively sabotage their efforts at making money for our own amusement.
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So what will people who torrent anime do from now on, then?
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>>135925009
They should be given a taste of their own nukes
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Oh fuck this shit. Time to join a militia and fuck up these stingy ass corporations
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>>135925278
>All the pictures on boorus and rule34 in general could be removed.
But that's a good thing.
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Would TPP hurt torrenting, or streaming more? The purge will be interesting.
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>>135925231
Mecha Hitler
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>>135925320
Streaming definitely. Well the illegal ones anyways.
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>>135925307
Crunchy roll subscriptions or find a new hobby.
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>>135925319
How? You mean for the cringe worthy stuff?
That's fucking retarded. All the MLP shit being removed isn't worth removing fanart for everything other series.

Even non-sexual things and just randomly drawn pictures can be affected. How is this a good thing?
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>Despite the United States wanting to push to a resolution within the TPP last year, this bracketed text shows there is still huge opposition and disagreement throughout the text. At this critical moment the negotiations have now stalled, and developing countries are giving greater resistance.
LITERALLY SAVED BY THE POOR AND HUNGRY
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>tfw sensei notices you
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>>135925278
Well here's the big question, how exactly would you download it all if you had the space?
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>>135925231
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/05/11/elizabeth-warren-and-rosa-delauro-who-writing-tpp/2FQZAV6uz9GGQI6pe3cd0K/story.html
>The text has been classified and the public isn’t permitted to see it, but 28 trade advisory committees have been intimately involved in the negotiations. Of the 566 committee members, 480, or 85 percent, are senior corporate executives or representatives from industry lobbying groups. Many of the advisory committees are made up entirely of industry representatives.
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>>135925303
The Internet used to be a place where people could think for themselves. Now even though it's been diluted with all the Facebook retards, the big corporations still see it as a major threat. That's why they are ACTIVELY astroturfing. Even governments do it to spread disinformation.
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>>135925307
Keep on torrenting like before. Did you think what we did was legal?
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>>135925320
they'd hit torrent and streaming sites (they'd also love to hit private trackers), your isp would report your torrenting or drop your service
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>>135925320
Obviously streaming. Torrenting is for individual use. The people who own streaming websites are exposed to much more risk.
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>no more watching anime on streaming websites
that's it I've lost my last reason to live. For many people anime is the only source of happiness in this life, and with that taken away and locked up, nothing will be left to keep them from ending it all.
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>>135924019
Brocolli made me think this was a fake link. And fuck those fujoshits anyways
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>>135925307
Still torrent, albeit in a more risky setting. Fansubs and the like will be hit hard though.
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>>135925307
The exact same thing. I don't know if Sweden is inside of this agreement, but that's where Nyaa is hosted.
And if they are, I'm sure Nyaa will just move to a country that isn't much like piratebay does.
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Oh look at that, it's the 300th new law/bill/policy/whatever that's apparently going to kill anime as well as all freedom in general that will wind up doing absolutely nothing.

>No but this time really really for real really! I swear!

Yeah whatever.
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>>135925363
>how exactly would you download it all if you had the space?
Endless scrolling addon
Open all links addon
Copy all URLs addon
Use external program to download torrents or archive download all URLs
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>>135925236
> On 5 October 2015 Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper expected "signatures on the finalized text and deal early in the new year, and ratification over the next two years."[12] A version of the text of the treaty "Subject to Legal Review (...) for Accuracy, Clarity and Consistency"[13] was made public on 5 November 2015, the same day President Obama notified Congress that he intends to sign it.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

I'm assuming it won't go into action immediately. I'm also fairly certain it hasn't even been signed by Canada yet, so our only hope literally relies on the god damn canucks. It flew past both the House and Senate though, so there's no way the U.S. will overturn it.
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>>135925365
>The text has been classified and the public isn’t permitted to see it
Lol what, how are we to follow laws if we can't read the laws?
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>>135925423
E U has their own bill
every country that isn't russia is in.
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>>135925395
>your isp would report your torrenting or drop your service
Don't they do that already? Basically the TPP puts more pressure on ISPs that they'll actually do it?
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>>135925431
Sure. It hasn't yet, but it will eventually. Then it'll be too late to complain.
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>>135925431
Gotta keep people aware of what's going on or else one of these laws really will kill anime, and no one will know until it's too late.
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>>135925359
Of course developing countries would resist. They'd like to be great powers someday and have their own big evil companies.
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>>135925446
Our only hope lies on the BRICS
canada is already under the TPP, don't trust wikipedia
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>>135925423
Nyaa has its own tracker though. The Pirate Bay is just an index, which is much easier to handle. The entire site is just a bunch of magnet links and plaintext.
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>>135925476
Ok then /pol/, if you want to do your dance 1 more time after the last 299 times failed go ahead. I'll be busy not caring.
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>>135925431
TPP is a yes or no only decision, and since it's a literally about a shitload of things other than IP/copyright/internet rights it's something that could get passed and fuck up a shitload
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>>135925442
Thank you friend, it's always good to prepare for the worst.
At least now I know what I must do.

>Win the lotto and mail every anon their own copy of sadpanda.
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>>135925504
>I genuinely don't care, I just wanted to make you waste your time replying to bullshit
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>>135925460
Because they're not for the common man.

>A rigged process leads to a rigged outcome. For evidence of that tilt, look at a key TPP provision: Investor-State Dispute Settlement where big companies get the right to challenge laws they don’t like in front of industry-friendly arbitration panels that sit outside of any court system. Those panels can force taxpayers to write huge checks to big corporations — with no appeals. Workers, environmentalists, and human rights advocates don’t get that special right.
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>>135924777
Sue for false advertisement.
Your eyesight isn't perfect and their derivative logo made you think you were entering a trustworthy Starbucks.
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>>135925463
They will be more inclined to do it. If I remember correctly, one part of the TPP makes it so the ISP's are more at fault for their user activity
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>>135925504
I've never even been to /pol/ you shit. This isn't even /pol/ related at all, it's about knowing current events happening in the world around you that may or may not affect your hobbies. You're such a sheltered stupid cunt, holy fuck.
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>>135925460
They know the law is too dangerous to be revealed to the public before it's signed into law .And it's already too late to whine about it then. It just shows how capitalists do not care about transparency and democracy.
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Greed truly is the worst sin that ever plagued mankind
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>>135925504
If you are actually blind enough to see this bill is a legitimate threat, you deserve to have your hobby taken away from you.
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>>135925504
Anon, a lot of other things are /pol/, but this one hardly is
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>>135925504
Fuck off disinfo.
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>>135925551
the bill was leaked tho
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I can't wait to see the sales backlash. Nips aren't forgiving.
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It's treason then
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>>135925359
Yeah no shit. Those countries make a fortune bootlegging all the shit that the first world copyright holders own. Look at who owns the copyrights and who has the most lawyer firms and you see who really benefits from TPP: it ain't the developing world.
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Just host your shit in europe whats the problem?
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>>135925550
>>135925575
>>135925581
>>135925589
|0\ trolled
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>>135925504
If being politically aware in the slightest is a /pol/ thing, then maybe I should check that board out.
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>>135925617
Because EU has the same exact bill.
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>>135925245
Life.
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>>135925617
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_Partnership
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>>135925361
Dang that's really cool.
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>>135925617
Europe is affected too.
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>>135925617
Don't worry, there's a European version coming out.
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>>135925617
1. TTIP
2. How long are you going to keep running?
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>>135925590
That wasn't the final draft and wikileaks hasn't leaked anything about it recently
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>>135925617
EUROPE HAS THE SAME SHIT UNDER ANOTHER NAME
CHINA OR BURST NIGGA
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>>135925558
You realize you're the greedy one here for wanting to illegally view media for free that you're otherwise supposed to pay for right.

Or are you so entitled you expect the entire world to labor for your neet ass for free.
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>>135925657
>>135925656
>>135925651

Whelp, time to go back to xdcc guys :^ )
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>>135925361
what am looking at
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>mfw they said I was crazy for hoarding 6TB worth of animu and manga

Who's laughing now fags.
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>>135925617
Antarctica servers here we come
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They fight tooth and nail against illegal sport streams and they still haven't done jackshit, any time a stream goes down 2 more appear. And this is with sports, much more relevant and popular than anime.
So stop panicking, even if they tried as hard as they do for sports, the anime fanbase in the west has a much better infrastructure and organization than illegal sport streaming.

The only problem /a/ will have from TPP is fanart and that probably won't be a problem at all because they just have to turn a blind eye or find a loophole.
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>>135925558
Advertising should be illegal.
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>>135925687
The name of the TV, I'd assume. It's probably the name of a TL group or somesuch.
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>>135925118
So people now can't share their talents online.
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>>135925666
>>135925590
>>135925551
https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/about-us/who-we-are/treaty-making-process/trans-pacific-partnership-tpp/text-of-the-trans-pacific-partnership

It was RELEASED to the public a while ago. Stop living under a rock.
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>>135925677
i buy BDs and tankobons
your move anti freedom man
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>>135925677
There is nowhere I can download anime to view it while paying for it as well in my language. It's impossible otherwise.
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>>135925689
My collection isn't that big but it's got all my favorite shit plus about 20 or so backlogged shows to tide me over just in case my seasonal anime gets interrupted by this.
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>>135925689
I hope you have that shit backed up.

>>135925709
You're overly optimistic. TPB is going to get shut down any day now. Just look at how few options we have for transferring large (>10GB) files over the internet now.
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I can't even get Cruncyroll in Netherlands, if it isnt licensed here i'm not doing anything illegal guys.

Right?
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Why Obama did this? Just why??
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>>135925689
Me because 6tb isn't nearly enough unless you downloaded all 480p.
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>>135925677
>you are greedy for wanting to look at a bunch of data 1s and 0s
Get with the times, gramps
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>>135924700
Yes, but that doesn't have anything to do with the link OP provided or the topic at hand, holy shit. How autistic can you be?
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>>135925748
C H I N A
H Y P E
also, it was pushed by japan and prison island.
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>>135925672
>CHINA OR BURST NIGGA
I wish.
The TPP's main gimmick is to fight the growing economic power of China
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>>135925734
I can buy two seasons of One Piece in my language. That's it for me.
I'll have so much fun after this law comes into effect!
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Guess it's time to buy a few hundred 2TB drives and start downloading. It's the only way.
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>>135925689

You better find some old Pentium 3 computer off the grid, because with the shit in Windows 10 and PRISM, corporations will be able to find out you have bootlegged media.

Hell, it won't be long before drones with video cameras will spy on you through your windows from 10 miles away, and if you dare shoot one down, you go to prison.
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>>135925782
which is why they will fail, you literally can't beat china.
there's also the rest of brics, lets not forget them.
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>>135925221
>/pol/

/pol/ does not even give a fuck about the TPP. They are living in ignorance posting the same KEK KEK KEK NIGGER JEW shit over and over instead of looking at the most important things.

Proof: The day that the Senate was voting on TPP Fast Track, the only two boards that actually bothered to watch the livestream were /a/ and /pol/. And the /pol/ thread was fucking dead.

Yes, a thread about politics on the ANIME AND MANGA board managed to reach bump limit whereas the /pol/ thread was completely ignored so they could shitpost about x feminist celebrity and y jewish movie director instead. Fucking pathetic.
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>>135925155

This.

Though Americans are to blame for letting American corporations get so powerful. The right let them brainwash them during the red scare, and the left is more concerned with identity politics bullshit and fighting fake prejudice than regulating these fuckers.
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>>135925709
Don't bother. These stupid conspiracy theory /pol/fags see panicking over nothing as a hobby. No matter how rationally you point out that sometimes is not a threat they wont care because "OMG IT'S HAPPENING WHY DID YOU LET THIS HAPPEN" reaction is more fun for them. That's why they've been doing it for years at literally every one of these bills that comes along despite none of them ever doing anything.
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>people saying that the TPP is awful
Do people say that because they read the clip notes or have they read the entire 6000+ pages long document?
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>>135925816
>running windows
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>>135925828
>you literally can't beat china.
China's going into the shitter right now anon.
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>>135925816
>connecting your computer to the Internet
>having glass in your windows
Tbh you deserve it senpai
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Oh. Is it that time of the month again?
Thanks for the update /doommongerers/, I guess I'll check up on the news again later.
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>>135925854
This is some shit bait anon, try harder.
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>>135925677
It's the exact same thing as the piracy movement. I wouldn't watch anime anyways if I couldn't get it easily. These people aren't losing money.

Do you know why lobbyists try and get these laws put into place? Because human society as it stands favours sociopaths who talk big and who are willing to do immoral things. They're people who desire power, and they're corrupt from the moment they touch it. These people are egotistical, narcissistic, and uneducated (because they just had to talk big to get where they were).

End result? They're fucking idiots, so they don't know that what they're doing won't help, and even if they did know, they're too proud and self-centered to care. They want control, not people having free will.
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>>135925841
/a/ has always generally been really good at being a better /b/
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>>135925828
I would've agreed with you a few weeks ago but right now China looks like it's going to shit.
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>>135925816
Or run linux. I really dislike linux because I'm a lazy fuck and getting programs to work on it sounds like a pain. Some stuff simply doesn't. I also hate how it looks.

But I may make the switch. Some day. Just have to get out of my comfort zone.
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Worst case scenario I have to start torrenting exclusively through a VPN. Nothing I haven't done before.
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>not setting up servers running on custom made OS in antartica and greenland
who wants in, i also have a nuclear sub just in case
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>>135924959
And to think that Americans wants to put a man who is in charge of a large powerful corporation to rule their country.
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>>135925897
Instrumentality when?
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>>135925816
If you've updated Windows 7 at any point in the last year or so, you probably have the tracking shit from 10 on there as well.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/microsoft-accused-of-adding-spy-features-to-windows-7-8/

You can remove them though.

http://www.ghacks.net/2014/12/11/how-to-remove-installed-windows-updates-and-block-them-afterwards/
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>>135925922
The problem is your ISP will still know.
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>>135925741
>You're overly optimistic.
No, I just know how the internet works, I don't have the paranoia and fetish for the end of the world /pol/ has, and I deal with piracy for something that is much bigger than anime.
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>>135925946
But he's promising to get rid of the Jews!
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>>135925776
Intellectual property is worth money due to the time and effort that goes into designing it, not the electricity and bandwidth needed to send/duplicate it. It's probably hard for neets who have never spent any time or effort in their lives creating anything to understand.

I don't give a shit if you pirate (I do it all the time and have no intention of ever stopping) but don't be such an insecure little retard and try to make up bullshit to justify it.
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Holy shit I hate this world so God damn much.

I just want to enjoy my fucking guns, and watch stupid fucking chinese cartoons. Why won't they just leave me the hell alone?

Why is the world trying so hard to take away everything I enjoy? Are they trying to drive me into a hobby involving cryptograms? Because that's where it's headed.
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>>135925852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnC1mqyAXmw
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if only ipfs would take off
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>>135925946
Hilary will win, she's with the binderburg dudes
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>>135924019
What you linked is nothing new.
Since the internets commercial inception people have always tried to control content.
Countries have outright banned certain sites, content, etc.
However the failure in this ideology is that the internet as a whole is not controllable.
We have and will always find a way to bypass standards set by other companies.
It's the same process that created the first hackers/crackers and the response technicians who than were forced to create more complicated integrity and security protocols.
The hack/crack side evolved and now we see the future of warfare. A never ending battle for information.

Granted nothing we are talking about is potentially life threatening as other data could be. It doesn't change the fact there will always be a way. Even if it's scanners using forums and blog sites such as the one we are currently on or Tumblr to mass distribute.
Eventually they will be forced to comply to industry standard, however because of the Big 3 (Confidentiality, Integrity, Accessibility) the user fan base will be hurt as you can not have accessibility or confidentiality with too much integrity. Vice versa too much integrity to us the user will limit Confidentiality and Accessibility as governments try to limit us the user.
We will than leave said sites and stop using them, effectively shutting them down as millions of people leave their domains due to lack of being able to openly express themselves.
We will create new domains where our belief system is shared and those will be the ones that are viewed by our community.
So the battle continues on and on.
Now excuse me while I fuck this cactus.
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>>135925969
>I deal with piracy for something that is much bigger than anime.

You can't just say something like that and not elaborate.
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>>135925996
lol, you wasted your time, I win
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Pirating anime is already illegal and nobody gives a fuck. Making it "more" illegal still won't make anyone give a shit.
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>>135925988
I can't even imagine an internet where anime/manga becomes hard to enjoy.

Imagine /a/ if bakabt, nyaa, and AB were gone. It'd just be a bunch of crunchyroll shitters and a small handful of people who know where to go otherwise.

Till those sites get taken down too.
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>>135926035
Didn't mean to reply
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>>135926014
Fundamentally all of us rely on ISPs to transfer messages across the world. If the ISPs decided say fuck you one day there's nothing you can do even if you have Tor, i2p, whatever.
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>>135926035
>lol
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>>135926015
>elaborate
What do you mean, I said in the previous post: sport piracy is alive and well, and that's sports, much bigger than anime.
Fucking hell you can go to reddit and there are subreddits dedicate to streaming. Your anime is going nowhere.
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>>135925946
FYI he's anti-globalization. If anything he's almost a Hoover-era isolationist in terms of economic policy. Of course, that's also bad for the anime industry and for /a/ for entirely different reasons.
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>>135926058
You still replied to bullshit
Me: 1
You: 0
>>135926065
geg
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>>135924424
It's not going to be boring anymore when all your anime starts disappearing.
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>>135925996
Here's a better video.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GWHDPuDpay8
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>>135926051
I wish I could live with my head up my ass.
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What hobbies will you be moving on to once this bill takes affect and anime is kill?
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>>135926082
And what reason would that be?
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>tfw your isp is owned by some iraqui fuck that dosen't give an ass
bless be the oil barons
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>>135925446
I have two years to download tens of thousands of porn images and at least 2000 doujins by my estimation. Fucking hell.
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>>135926133

Guess I'll actually go back to /v/.
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>>135926133
fucking dumb sluts
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>>135926119
Anon you're so far up your ass it's bursting back out through your neck and you just haven't even noticed and think you're living normally.
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>>135926097
>i-it's ok nyaa will always be there!
I can't wait to the panic when it actually goes down for good. I'll be crying too but still.

>>135926133
Reading. I read already but it isn't my main hobby. I'll just have to make it my main hobby.
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>>135926051
It's already illegal only if it's available for purchase in your country legally.
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>>135924769
Well it should be smaller if you exclude the western vore porns.
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>>135925236
Well, I'll see you all on I2P!
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>>135926133
I hear suicide is nice.
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Why does this seem like the "current time to movie time" prologue that explains what happened of a dystopian action movie?
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>>135926064

As long as there's more than one provider, this isn't really a big threat, though. You can just switch, and they're fully aware of that.

The nice thing about even oligopolies is that even if they do make an agreement, someone is bound to betray in the name of making more money, and then the rest are forced to follow. It happens without fail.
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>>135926160

With or without sleep?
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>>135926133
Back to music i guess, filled with degenerates to the brim, but what can you do eh?
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>>135926133
Drawing.
Then animating.
Then animate my waifu.
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>>135926133
Get fit, join the Navy and get stationed in animeland.
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>>135926181
Well i've downloaded terabytes of anime illegally over all these years and nothings happened. So I think I'll just continue doing so and not giving a fuck about you stupid chicken littles.
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>>135926074
I'm not too familiar with sport streams but there are a bunch of fundamental differences.

I assume that you're talking about livestreaming sports, in that case of course it's harder to crack down on. But what this thread is discussing is the massive archival of anime that takes place on the big 3 anime trackers. Literally hundreds of TBs get transferred over them every day, which is many many times more than whatever sports stream you're talking about. Furthermore, it has the additional problem of being available 24/7/365 to a large number of people.

Anime streaming sites are out of the question as a means of archival. All of these sites compress the filesize of video files to lessen the enormous burden of streaming on the server.

This thread was never really about anime streaming in the first place.
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>>135926241
only join the navy if you are a woman.
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>>135926257
Why not men?
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>>135926133
Sneakernets and XDCC will be back in fashion again I think
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>>135926217
Music will be the same. All the websites like what.cd will get taken down for good. Plus I like music but it's hardly an actual hobby. It's something you do while doing other things.
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>>135926133
Well I split my time fairly evenly between /a/ and /k/
So I'll just dump more of my time/money into firearms. Then when they finally take away my guns I'll become a serial killer until I'm killed.
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>>135926064
>not building your own network
>not using other peoples network
>not using other mediums in general
You're very short sighted Anon.
There is always a way, the only way that a an ISP can completely eliminate the signal is to turn the signal off completely at the hub.
As long there is a single wifi connection or port open, as long as a single customer exist.
There will be someone using the connection.
It's no different than the guy who goes to, I don't know Starbucks and uses their free wifi to upload a movie onto a torrenting application or inverted downloading.
The Big 3 never changes, if the ISP does not allow enough user accessibility to the customer no one will use their product.
If the ISP allows too much accessibility the government will come and shut it down.
The corporations will not allow that to happen, therefore the connection still exist somewhere and that means there will be people using our information medium to break the law.
It's been this way since man first created technology in any form.
From the first humans to write (and therefore forge documents) to now.
If any system was 100% criminal proof we would have no crime.
Don't get me wrong I don't want to sound like I'm blowing you off, I get there possibly could be less crime much like if you remove all guns or blades from a country a noticeable decrease will happen, but it does still exist.
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>>135926271
faggot galore, try staying in a ship full of dudes.
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>>135926244
Well the thing is anime and manga make peanuts compared to western movies, TV series and music so the distributors in west simply don't bother legally haunting people like us.
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>>135925996
>>135926107

I'm not so keen in economy. From my understanding, the reason they are doing this because they want to take more money from people, right?
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>>135926280
Making music anon.
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>>135926301
Who cares? I'm on /a/ surrounded by faggots already.
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>>135926289
I don't think you get how networking protocols work.
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>>135926193

Because dystopian settings are often based on real world trends. Corporations won't stop until they're just as powerful and oppressive as any dictatorship with a greedy bastard sitting on the throne, and their entrenchment will make them just as difficult to remove as any government.
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>>135926330
It's always about the money.
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>>135925988
No one is trying to take away your guns, idiot. The only thing on that I've heard about is regulating the fucking things to make it so your average idiot doesn't get a hold of them and those who have their hands on them aren't stupid and don't do stupid things with them
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>>135926338
Not physically.
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>>135926055
Make it stop please.
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>>135926331
Oh have fun then.
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>>135926330
the reason tpp/the eu version is being pushed is china's economic might.
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>>135926330
Can never have too much money.
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>>135924760
There's just some people you can't win against.
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>>135926142
He wants to impose tariffs. Buyfags would suffer the worst immediate effects since the cost of importing would increase and would also become harder to find imports as businesses stop bothering to sell to the US due to the shrinking market.

I doubt the loss of the US market would have a major impact on the production of anime, but it would be enough that we might see a slight downscaling in the number of shows per season.
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>>135926330

>they want to take more money from people, right?

It's always the reason, it never stops. The bottom line is everything and everything else is just a means to get the former.
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>>135926357
>The only thing on that I've heard about is regulating the fucking things to make it so your average idiot doesn't get a hold of them and those who have their hands on them aren't stupid and don't do stupid things with them

ahahahhahahahahahahhaa
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>>135926338
its your butt anon, just don't blame me when you are taking more dicks on your ass than a pornstar
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>>135926349
Well they are in the process of weakening western nation states so that their grasp on us is as strong as over third world shit holes. Immigration and multiculti are perfect divide and conquer. All multicultural nations are highly divided and distrustful of their fellow citizens. Countries like that have weak governments controlled by multi-nationals.
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>>135926249
Do you think that sport streams aren't available to a large number of people? we are not talking about using shady sites, we are talking about a subreddit, and the same 2-3 sites everytime.

What do you think they can do? they failed to kill tpb, why can they kill Nyaa? or AB? Bakabt is the only one with a chance of being killed and s tuff can be reuploaded to AB or pirate bay.
What's stopping people from archiving anime by recoring or ripping streams?
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>>135925151
Is Trump Aragorn?
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>>135925009
I'm sorry, i can't hear you over my freedom.
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>>135925858
A bump in the road. From 2000 B.C. To around 1510 China has been the biggest, most powerful and advanced nation on earth (although they were pretty weak militarily quite a few times in that span of time).
They will retake their spot at the top, for better or worse.
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>>135926361
>>135926422
You don't actually think faggots just randomly come on to you because you have a penis, do you? Because they don't. It doesn't work that way.

Even if they say suggestive lines towards you it's not like you're going to die because some faggot called you cute.
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>>135926055
/a/ without piracy wouldn't exist. The western industry would be next to none existent without piracy and only the most mainstream of things would be localized. Piracy is the very thing that keeps the fucking thing alive in the west. Kinda ironic when you think about it
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>>135926357
>No one is trying to take away your guns, idiot.
This is what retards actually believe.

>http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/California-Gun-Law-Seize-Guns-Without/2015/12/30/id/707588/

Here's the newest of many, All it takes is some random asshole troll telling your local police that they "heard you making threats" or something else ambiguous, and they can take away your firearms.
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And nothing will happen.
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>>135926133
I will go >>>/out/ and explore the real world
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>>135926082
>If anything he's almost a Hoover-era isolationist in terms of economic policy.
To be honest that's what we need right now. TPP and shit like it is incredibly damaging to developed local markets which run well on their own with minimal or only very specific outside input. The US is a post-industrial nation which still has a very large industrial capacity and could stand to be a bit more independent. It would help too with diplomacy if we didn't have to rely so much on others. Just look how desperate the Saudis got when we started fracking large-scale in the Dakotas. Gas is now hovering around $1.75 a gallon.
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Let them shoot themselves in the foot

Without all the fan hype that comes from memes, doujinshi, cosplay, and even things considered piracy, they wont have anything to advertise their shows or IP, and will fail horribly.

If they're that stupid or arrogant to bite the hand that feeds them then they deserve their impending bankruptcy.
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>>135926466
It will exist but it'll be pretty dead, aside from CR shitters like I said. It'll be fucking awful.
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>>135924019
>implying this is a bad thing

Japan has even more voracious and destructive copy-right laws than the U.S. Fucking osumatsu had its first episode expunged from existence because of a parody.

Making fan-comics of official work is going to be protected by the same shit that let's people cover things--fair use for parody. As long as no one tries to make money off of it, doujins aren't going anywhere. It says essentially the same thing (distribution for non-financial and personal use is fine).

If you're mad that it's going to be harder to steal anime, of fucking well shit-bird.
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>>135926433
don't go full pol, they already control the white man for a long while now, this is they getting greedy.
and those shit holes will save your hide on delaying the bill.
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>>135924019
But what happens to FAKKU?
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>>135926456
>ponymusic has blocked this video in your country
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>>135926133
I'll keep illegally downloading my anime until I get put in jail. Then, when I'm in jail my 6'3" black cellmate will ask what I'm in for and I'll tell him and I'll end up discussing anime with him, because black people genetically love anime.
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>>135926502
I can't wait till this hurts the anime/manga industry because people who pirate stop buying figures and other merch.

>>135926522
>As long as no one tries to make money off of it, doujins aren't going anywhere
That's kind of the fucking point silly.
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>>135926449
It is not for you to deny the return of the king, Democrats.
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>>135926472
That law only allows them to take them for 3 weeks if they think you're going ballistic.
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>>135926465
no, they rape you first.
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>>135926504
>>135926466
Depends on the cost of licenses, I remember that back in the day anime was so cheap that here in Italy even regional tvs had them.
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So are we just going to start a black market exchanging digital copies on foot now? Who will be the brave souls that actually have to go outside?
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