>Now - good animation bad plot
>Retro - bad animation good plot
>Future - good animation good plot
Get ready, we are about to approach the golden age of anime.
>>135610303
Not with all that CGI we won't.
>>135610303
Why isn't Pacific Rim listed?
>>135610342
CGI isn't inherently bad, MJP, Sidonia, and even a few fights in Argevollen made good use of CGI for mecha.
The problem is when it's used as a crutch/cop out.
>>135610342
You just don't notice good CGI. CGI is the future.
https://streamable.com/480x
>>135610342
>muh CGI
>Macross Delta had better action in one episode than IBO in its entire run so far
The future is here.
>>135610303
>Cross Ange
>good animation
Come on anon
>>135610647
Holy shit that's so cool. Do you have any more vids like that, anon?
>>135610303
But the future is already here Canon.
>>135610303
Sadly unless you're Sunrise you're not even guaranteed good animation nowadays and Cross Ange proved how that's hardly reliable anymore either. There's also some stuff from the 80's-early 90's that still holds up really well.
Legend of Galactic Heroes is coming out in 2017 by Production IG. I hope to see SF anime evolution there.
>>135610647
>>135610787
Different anon, but if you want something really in-depth, I'd recommend this talk on Guilty Gear Xrd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E
Definitely worth at least skipping through.
>>135610787
Yes but you won't like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGZAwulxWUo
>>135610812
Bones too
>>135610303
>now - stupid generalizations
>then - stupid generalizations
>future - stupid generalizations
Looks like we're in for a lot more of the same.
>>135610852
>Legend of Galactic Heroes is coming out in 2017 by Production IG.
Is IG confirmed to be doing LoGH? I didn't hear anything about it.
>>135611252
It's an opinion, but you're a fucking idiot if you think retro and current anime are the same.
>>135610647
>implying we'll ever get Video game level of CGI in anime
keep dreaming
RnL was pretty good until Season 2.
>>135611454
Exactly, japs will find a way to cut corners and spend as little as money as possible. CGI is gonna be edited by the shitty gook races
>>135610342
The future is obviously rotoscoping
>>135611454
Not implying that
>>135611454
anime's production value has gone so down that even 2d cutscenes in video games look better than actual anime
Just compare F/SN's Vita Opening video and UBW anime
>>135611546
This has one of the best OP.
>>135611554
The worst thing about this is that even anime movies got affected by this shit;in the past anime movies used to have high standards in production values but nowadays we're just getting trash (just look at the new berserk)
Also, why does the CGI look so fucking wonky and stutter-y? I assume that it has something to do with frame rate but I don't give a fuck, they need to get that shit fixed
>>135612054
bait has gone so down on /a/
>>135612134
>bait
Just compare the two yourselves and see whether I'm baiting you or not
>>135612110
How do the Japs look at the CGI in things like the Berserk movies and say "Looks good to me"?
>>135610303
>Now - good animation
Nah.
>Retro - bad animation
Nope.
>Future - good animation good plot
No way in hell.
>>135612202
Slanted Eyes
>>135610613
The problem with CGI, even when it has good models that mesh well with the rest of the anime, is the way they're animated ignores the mass of the mecha. Even something like MJP, which was largely space combat and thus rendered gravity a non-factor, still does that aspect badly. Large bodies like that don't accelerate and turn on a dime. Your forward motion doesn't stop just because you throw it into reverse. That ship duel with Teiwaz in Gundam IBO was painful to watch, the way they rolled and u-turned like it was nothing.
>>135610303
>Future - good animation good plot
Considering the current trend with shit like OPM and Kill La Kill.
Mecha is only going to get worst.
>>135612509
But is that really a fault of the CGI? How would i being drawn be any different?
>>135612169
>a one minute clip looks better than a 24 episode anime.
>>135610342
>>135610613
>>135612509
>>135612612
Fafner Exodus says hello.
>>135612612
That's not a fault that is caused specifically by using CGI, but animating the 3D models is part and parcel to CGI. The models are good and they fit in with the rest of the anime, but their movement fails at a basic level.
I'd imagine it's a conscious choice because they think drifting and martial arts with spaceships and mecha is cool or exciting or something. It's bad enough they have full 360° motion despite not animating anything besides the main thrusters on the back. I had the same problem with Arpeggio of Blue Steel - the movement, especially underwater, was just horrible.
>>135612824
I never watched the original, so I didn't pick up Exodus.
>>135612509
Wait, IBO has CGI? I'm way behind, but I thought it was all going to be 2D mechs.
>>135613325
when they get to space all the spaceships are CHI. Mecha stay 2d though.
![[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 07 [720p].mkv_snapshot_19.17_[2016.01.03_04.47.09].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gPLwvpE.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 07 [720p].mkv_snapshot_19.17_[2016.01.03_04.47.09].jpg")
>>135613325
I was talking about the ships in IBO, which are absolutely 100% CGI.
>>135610647
they could give up the fucking 24fps if they go CGI.
>>135612559
How is OPM a trend?
>>135613636
Ajin (movie) is 24 fps and still looks ass
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3498602/
>>135613636
They don't want to. They like the aesthetic they've developed.
>>135611333
you're also an idiot if you think retro anime have "bad animation" compared to modern anime
Future: Good animation no plot
>>135610303
I wish that Future you speak of would hurry the fuck up
>>135610303
S1 of Lagrange was good
>>135610303
>CG
>Good
Fucking kill yourself, newfag.
>>135610303
>Now - good animation
>Retro - bad animation
Sweet summer child...
>>135610342
What are you trying to say, anon-kun.
>>135610303
Even if your analysis wasn't completely off the mark the only thing you should expect from the future is bad animation bad plot
Anime would be so much better with stuff like Valvrave around more often.
It will get better when everyone gets bored of moeshit. So like in the next century.
>>135610672
Except Macross Delta has a premise that would even 5 year olds face palm.
>>135618185
Just like IBO
They're both the shittiest entries of their franchises
>>135610303
mecha anime overall sucks
