What the hell is forced animation?
that one scene in golden time when tada banri is listening to lisa or whatever on the balcony at night time and for some reason there's a lot of frames for when lisa turns around and it looks really out of place
The dinner scene in Nanoha.
The working conditions of the japanese animation industry.
"Forced [insert anything here]" = "[insert that same thing here] I don't like"
>>135593115
>>135592917
please just let the meme die
>>135593198
Welcome to the world of subcontracting.
It's just some bullshit buzzword/phrase that dumbass people came up with on 4chan. To try and use in their poorly worded arguments on why they didn't like something.
>>135593389
>this forced post.
>>135593780
does rotoscoping even count as animation though?
>>135593115
>>135592917
watch episode 1 of nanoha, you know that part at the table. that´s forced animation, it does not looks realistic. it´s trippy as fuck.
A forced meme.
>>135593841
>analogue Microsoft Word
>>135592917
dumb sakuraposter
Watch one of the worse Don Bluth movies and you'll know.
>>135592917
Nichijou
>>135593073
Came here to post this.
>>135592917
Is it the same as overanimated?
Unnecessary and flashy animation that is more about showcasing the animator's skill rather than being a relevant part of the scene.
>>135592917
It's when an anime you don't like has good animation, but you still want to insult it.
>>135594310
It's similar to overdesigned.
>>135592917
Buzzwords, anon. They have no meaning.
>>135593198
thats ABe on the right, he was not an animator lol. he did the concept designs only
>>135592917
Always think of this when I hear the term
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mw9s9nkuE30
>>135592917
Unnatural character acting.
But really, it's just a shitposting buzzword.
>>135592917
It's just something someone came up with to make fun of "forced drama" but then idiots started taking it seriously. One would think people actually consider the meanings of words before they start using them, but it seems that's too much to ask.
Overly elaborate animation in mundane scenes that don't merit it. KyoAni and Studio Ghibli are notorious for it.
>>135592917
>>135593810
Does tracing count as art?
>>135595493
What the fuck is this?
>>135595560
A visual representation of the voice acting in RWBY.
>>135595493
Meh, typical CGI animation. I wouldn't call it forced.
>>135592917
Forced animation is animation I don't like.
>>135592917
dumb sakuraposter
>>135595644
>>135594043
Really now?
>>135595618
What is this? I need it.
>>135595688
Nerawareta Gakuen
>>135595493
She's fucking convulsing.
>forced animation thread
>people are asking what it means instead of posting OPM
really?
fucking really?
are you all this goddamn dense?
>>135592917
Retarded counter-response to term "forced drama" from people who didn't want to understand the reason somebody would create such term. Current meaning: "I don't like it".
>>135592917
a forced meme
>>135595644
>>135595644
>>135595685
>>135595760
I don't think it had a lot of forced animation, but it certainly had a lot of forced colorization and meme colors.
>>135595733
Thanks.
>>135595288
What is being forced in such situation exactly? Also, what standards apply to whether a scene merits elaborate animation or not?
>>135592917
An expression for people who hate an anime that have a good animation and want to shitpost.
>>135595760
I don't even watch OPM sorry
>>135595833
>forced colorization
>meme colors
People, words have meanings. Use them. Don't just stick random shit together and think you coined a term.
>>135595917
I prefer this scene.
https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/a0cf7029e6cc14c93eda548d75481807.webm
I guess it means more animation than necessary but I fail to see how it's a bad thing.
>>135595833
>meme colors
>>135595997
>>135596061
This board is filled with shitposting retards and I don't think there is anything we can do about it.
>>135596030
If it's disproportionate to the rest of the show, it can be very distracting.
>>135596030
It can look uncanny and ruin the scene.
>>135595997
>>135596061
Are you seriously this fucking retarded?
He was clearly joking
>>135596146
Why are you so sure?
>>135592917
animation I don't like
Forced animation=something I don't like.
>>135596146
So was forced animation, but we're seeing here where that ended up going.
>>135592917
It's some stupid term that people are trying to use.
At worst it is just some buzzword that people use for anything they dont like, or as bait to troll others
At best it means animation that doesnt feel right/surreal/glaring/out of place. If a show has a very flat 2-3 shadow style and then all of a sudden it has one character out of a scene having lots of movement within frames and more complicated shadow work, even more colors of shadows, that character becomes glaring in the scene because it is so different from everything else around it.
Having more focus on one piece of animation compared to other pieces has to happen though, especially in an anime that has action scenes. Think of Eva, it literally has scenes that dont move for about a minute straight because they wanted to save money. That is glaring, but they were able to make it work some of the time.
>>135596199
So basically how 4channers use "meme _____" (show, band, sports team, etc.) as shortform for "_____ I don't like".
>>135596248
It ended up being used as a b8 and it always works
>>135596304
>are trying to use
Force animation is a phrase that has been used for literally years. I'm not excusing it, but it's not exactly new.
>>135596314
Pretty much.
For the love of god, people, don't even try to take that term seriously. It's a bait, troll's lifeline and save-me term when people are running out of arguments. It has no meaning, only "forced drama" ever had any related phenomena behind it and even that was just catch-all term if people didn't want to repost the same thing again and again when sperging about melodrama in anime.
>>135595493
This is what "hurr forced animation" fags want anime to look like.
>>135594073
This was the originator. Thats why the blurays were so expesive.
I've never used it myself but it has always been used to describe scenes which look awkward due to too much movement. Joshiraku actually made fun of it.
Of course, every sort of idiot is going to misuse it, fail to recognize actual good animation, say an entire series has forced animation because of one scene, and just generally shitpost. It can't be helped.
>>135596905
It wasn't a joke about forced animation, it was a joke about joshiraku being an anime that doesn't have much to animate, but even then, the animator work their hardest to do it.
>>135595493
>>135595493
>>135597281
Isn't that when it happens the most anyway?
>>135592917
Ninja Slayer & Inferno Cop
>>135595833
>meme colours
This is one of the most awesomely retarded things I've read on /a/ in a while.
>>135595997
Typical meme response. Instead of addressing a single thing in the post, you bring up a strawman and falsely claim victory.
>>135598879
Meme is the most forced meme in meme history.
>>135593810
It's literally just tracing over the frames of actual human movement. The webm your replying to is an awful representation of it because it can actually be good, but it looks like they used male movement for it so it just doesn't look right.
>>135595760
>One punch man should have had awful animation!
>Nothing can have good animation!!! Otherwise it's just forced!
Gee anon, it's almost as if animators actually want to put effort into the scenes they're assigned to because maybe they enjoy their hobby? They're obviously not doing it for the money
>>135597883
That's meme-animation.
>>135595493
>please kill me
>>135592917
Unnecessary movement.
>>135595493
>>135599488
It looks like it was made in AA2
>>135595906
>What is being forced in such situation exactly?
The fluid detailed animation. Making things move much more than they should just looks awkward and uncanny.
>what standards apply to whether a scene merits elaborate animation or not?
Action scenes generally merit it, generic talking SoL scenes from moeshit do not. Animation for the sake of animation is just a waste of budget, because when you get right down to it, animation is just a tool used to portray a story. A poorly animated anime with a good story is far better than a sakuga anime with a shitty story.
The problem with Nichijou isn't the animation, it's the art style, every character looks the same.
>>135593073
Did anyone ever make a webm of this, by any chance?
>>135593935
>>135593073
>>135599835
I bet you think disney is forced animation too.
>>135595760
It's not forced animation, just lots of Naruto-tier fight scenes with high frame rate of mostly shitty inconsistent frames
>>135601247
That bitrate is disgusting. Lower your resolution when making a webm.
1/10
>>135595618
The problem with that movie was the abundance of fucking motion blur, it looks like ass.
>>135600789
I agree. It's a meme show with meme art and characters.
>>135600449
I never got to know why did this happenor better said, didnt.. Anyone could spoonfeed me about the reason behind it?
>>135601548
It has more meme colors than any other anime I've ever seen.
someone post the thief and cobbler webm
>>135601460
The movement looks unnatural even without the motion blur. Even with how much she's moving, it's stiff and the blur is a cheap attempt at making it look dynamic and give weight to her movements.
Seriously, what the fuck is with that movement? Is the whole movie like this?
>>135601652
>Is the whole movie like this?
Pretty much, and the dumb as fuck story shits it up even further. One of the few times I seriously considered dropping a movie.
>>135601548
You can't be this fucking retarded. You truly could not be in sound mind and say that about Nichijou.
There are so many valid criticisms you could have used but "it's just memes" is the absolute worst you could have done.
>>135601829
Please don't take such obvious bait. I know you're hungry, but it's not worth it for a tiny chunk of cheese.
>>135592917
The Haruhi Movie
Hyouka
How many of the people who comment on animation here have even studied animation?
>>135602066
I have, and 99% of the posters in this thread are dumbshits with no idea what they're talking about.
>>135601790
That's a shame. The stills and promotional material for the movie looked nice.
>>135602066
It does not take an expert in haute couture to tell that the emperor does not wear clothes.
>>135602066
I am currently. And surprise surprise /a/ has no idea what theyre talking about.
>>135602122
>>135602672
The thing that frustrates me the most is how anons confuse meme colors with forced colorization.
Do you guys know of any good resources that I can use to explain the difference to the idiots on this board?
>>135594073
Seriously though. Epidome of forced animation >_>
>>135602765
There's no such thing as either of those. I'm gonna give you a straight-laced answer like that, even though I know you're just shitposting.
>>135599315
>implying animators are the one deciding those
>>135602066
Ren and Stimpy had forced animation as fuck
>>135602122
>>135602672
Damn, it only took two real experts to determine that people shitposting in a bait thread are wrong, guess all those years it the art school aren't wasted after all.
>>135592917
I don't get it, isn't "forced animation", still animation?
>>135601105
It is, yes. The constant "wacky" face and body movements in Disney movies and such are cringeworthy as fuck.
I always thought it was just unnatural looking animation that doesn't really serve a purpose other then someone felt like animating a guy bobbing up and down strangely just because.
With exaggerated faces you can say the point is to look funny
Or if the character has particular personality traits it may make sense for his body to be fidgeting around weirdly.
It's a case by case basis.
>>135603767
Forced animation is like the CDI Zelda games.
>>135603767
Forced animation is where they dont plan out the animation with keys and just animate willy nilly to fill space, like in >>135603837
>>135595833
>meme colors
>>135602066
Anime is aimed at everyone, not just animation enthusiasts, you don't need to be an expert on something to criticize it.
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