I'm watching some Tamako Market scenes while downloading the series. This looks cute enough why didn't /a/ went crazy about it while it was airing?
https://u.pomf.is/ekqlic.mp4
Not a fan of modern KyoAni.
The movie is GOAT
Thanks KyoAni
looks like k-on art/animation
>>135485421
I'm sorry about that bad taste.
The movie was good, the main series not so much
>>135485293
Kyoani best animation studio
Because it's not really that good. You should be asking why /a/ didn't go crazy over Hibike Euphonium. I mean they kind of did, but only because of the yuri/het war/boogeyman.
>>135485293
I've quickly learned to realize that Kyoani is simply Kyoani and hating them for doing what they do best is pretty dumb.
I'll never not watch a Kyoani show. I used to be a staunch 2deep4u fag too
The girls are cute.
But none have anything on mochizou.
>>135485496
this
Movie was 10/10
>>135485293
The prince/princess sub plot was retarded and unnecessary and the series would've been much better without it
Luckily they realized that too and cut it entirely from the movie, except for fat birds introduction
Watched it recently and I loved it. Movie was really good too.
The girls are cute.
But none have anything on florist-chan.
It's a good show, Love Story is a great movie, Kanna is the best girl.
Happy Birthday Tamako!
The series excelled at character interactions. Everyone felt lively and I really enjoyed feeling immersed into the dialogue and Kyoani brand expressions from the characters and visuals.
Unfortunately the movie took that out and replaced it with some mediocre love story so I didn't enjoy it as much.
>>135488948
Is it today? Neat.
What's with the mole?
>>135485293
There's nothing terribly wrong about the show.
It's just that it's so fuckingboring. Really fuckingboring.
Plus the bird's kinda annoying.
Still love the character designs though.
>>135497050
It was pretty interesting.
I had no strong feelings about it. But recently I was thinking about comedy that didn't have manzai and realized Tamako didn't have manzai comedy, so perhaps it deserves credit for that. It didn't have much humor and the humor it had wasn't very funny but at least it wasn't grating unfunny as fuck tired boke/tsukkomi.
>>135485293
I wanted to watch it but I had to drop it because of the annoying bird.
>>135485293
There were tons of Tamako Market threads when it aired, OP. If what you're asking is why it didn't have staying power like its cousin, then as people have pointed out, it wasn't that great.
I find myself rewatching the movie every once in a while. It's just so nice to sit down and watch it since it doesn't take too long and is relatively simple, I've probably watched it more times than Disappearance. Watching it and noticing all the subtle moments throughout the movie, I love it.
A lot of people tend to not like the main series, but I actually prefer it over the movie as a whole. Tamako Market is my idea of the perfect slice-of-life in the truest form of the word. Each arc we get a little piece of distilled everyday life from a different character. The movie is just an extension of this, focusing on Tamako and Mochizou.
The TV series was super comfy and was basically a collection of short stories. The movie is just the final and "main" short story.
kanna is best kyoani girl.
>episode 9
>>135498044
The problem is that Tamako Market, while a fantastic idea for a show, is much less well executed compared to Tamako Love Story. Although it has a few fabulous arcs, Tamako Market rarely if ever explores any characters outside of the main cast in any depth, and there's far, far, far too much focus on Dera, who is shit comic relief and a fairly uninspired character on the whole.
The film on the other hand is far more focused, well paced, and thematically effective while leaving off basically all the bullshit in Tamako Market.
Tamako Market ep 2, GOAT ep. I'm not even a yurifag but it was a great ep for expressing emotions.
>Tamako's birthday was yesterday (and still is in America)
>few people on /a/ remembered
>When Tamako's birthday was part of the plot not once but twice
>>135498761
>The problem is that Tamako Market, while a fantastic idea for a show, is much less well executed compared to Tamako Love Story. Although it has a few fabulous arcs, Tamako Market rarely if ever explores any characters outside of the main cast in any depth,
I do agree that Tamako Love Story was better executed, but to be fair it was a movie after all. Not to mention that they didn't need to do much explanation/build up about the potential romance between Tamako and Mochizou since this was sprinkled throughout the series. The TV series arc didn't have this luxury and had to setup each arc from beginning to end in a very short time.
>and there's far, far, far too much focus on Dera, who is shit comic relief and a fairly uninspired character on the whole.
I can't disagree with you there.
>The film on the other hand is far more focused, well paced, and thematically effective while leaving off basically all the bullshit in Tamako Market.
As mentioned above, I do agree with you but I think as a plot focus, some of the arcs from the TV series were better. Execution wise, there is no comparison between the movie and TV series.
>>135485496
>>135485979
Nope. See this anon: >>135492885
The whole romance was out of nowhere, and they did nothing at all to sell it. The whole movie was the story of him working up the courage to confess, then her working up the courage to confess. It's not actually a love story at all, it's a confession story, and that's shitty. There no convincing reason for Tamako to be in love with whatsisface. The only redeeming qualities of the movie are that it's fucking gorgeous and it features a hefty dose of Kanna best girl.
TV show is mediocre, movie a huge improvement.
>>135498044
>basically a collection of short stories.
When you put it that way it doesn't seem as bad that it had cast bloat resulting in shallow characters. They got as much development as could fit into 20 minutes before moving on to someone else. I shouldn't be mad that Shiori continues to exist late into the show as a barebones shy girl with literally no other traits.
loved both the series and the movie.
>>135497269
Wasn't Dera/Choi a bit manzai?
>>135488948
>>135498761
What? Tamako Market slowly develops the entire cast over the entire show. Even the shopkeepers had nice development while sharing the spotlight with the main characters, who were all well developed and characterized.
In fact, Tamako Love Story suffered from the fact that a ton of focus was suddenly shifted onto Mochizou, one of the weakest main male characters Kyoani has ever made (barring Chuu2's MC).
I feel that Tamako Love Story dragged on way too long, as well. It was quite obvious the movie was padded as fuck just to increase screentime.
Its decent on the first watch, but after marathoning a rewatch of the series, the movie didn't put out anything worth noting aside from the visuals. I can't help but feel like the movie was originally supposed to be part of the second season that also included more development of the shopkeepers, Choi, and Mochizou, but due to the lack of sales it was cut.
>>135492885
>>135499365
Tamako Love Story was more about the characters maturing rather than falling in love
>>135499508
My memory is kind of hazy but I thought it was physical comedy usually or she was nagging him for getting fat and lazy without slapping him over the head with a harisen.
>>135499365
>The whole romance was out of nowhere, and they did nothing at all to sell it
I'm confused about why people say this. It was heavily implied throughout the series (at least Mochizou to Tamako). And its not inconceivable that she would have romantic feelings for someone who was with her for so long.
>>135486123
>>135499365
>>135492885
>I'm butthurt that yuri didn't happen.
We know you are, anon.
>>135499718
Probably salty yuri shippers.
>>135488948
One of the cutest Kyoani's
>>135499718
This. The movie even has the scene where Tamako says that she loves mochi because it was always there for her after her mom died, with the face. Then it was revealed that it was Mochizou and her feelings for mochi was the same as her feelings for mochizou
>>135499635
Dark Flame Master was one of the strongest male characters in general. Mochizou was great too.
The problem is you're biased against male characters and are pathetically trying to portray yourself as a real person with a real opinion, when you aren't.
>>135487009
agreed
>>135499781
I'm not butthurt. In fact, I enjoyed the movie.
I just feel like it wasn't nearly as good as the series, which is one of my favorite anime in general.
>>135499908
>Dark Flame Master was one of the strongest male characters in general. Mochizou was great too.
Not him but both DFM, and Mochizou aren't really strong male characters in terms of how they were presented to the viewer. If they are considered strong, Oreiki must be on elder god tier or something.
>>135500036
Oreki is kind of pandering. He plays to the
> I'm so aloof and cool-blooded, not like the rest of the eccentric kids my age.
crowd who are the types to watch anime in general.
It's braver and more original to make an otaku-targeted anime featuring a lively male lead than a subdued male lead.
>>135499635
There's really not much development for the supporting cast. Some of the characters get a bit but it's never extensive. And sure, Mochi isn't that great of a character, but he works in this context and his dillema is relatable and effective.
>>135500036
Just because Chuu2's story is told from Yuuta's perspective, doesn't mean Rikka is the main character of the show and the one that makes it shine. Yuuta is barely in the OPs and EDs, and barely has any spotlight in the show. As a person he's a strong character, since he sets things moving when they're stagnant, or settles things down when they might get out of control. If Rikka is ever insecure or in need, Yuuta's always there to calm her down and be as helpful as needed.
>>135499635
Not him, but...
>What? Tamako Market slowly develops the entire cast over the entire show.
I don't think the main problem with Tamako Market was how it treated its characters (although I'd beg to differ when it came to Shiori), but rather the plot as a whole. There were too many storylines and they were all handled in this jumbled, fumbling way. The show should have focused more on SOMETHING.
>Even the shopkeepers had nice development
I honestly thought that came out of left field, and was depressing with little closure. I don't mind hearts getting broken, but then what? You just drop it there? Why even bring it up in the first place? Also, they never really did anything with the dagashiya girl, even though she's in the OP. I always wondered about that.
>In fact, Tamako Love Story suffered from the fact that a ton of focus was suddenly shifted onto Mochizou, one of the weakest main male characters Kyoani has ever made (barring Chuu2's MC).
I get the feeling you don't like him very much. Hey, I didn't like him during the TV series either, but he was treated much better in the movie. He became a character, and an obviously important piece in the story. I didn't really care for him before the movie, don't really care much after, either, but I don't care. It was the movie itself -- that is, a sum of far more parts -- that was great.
>>135500439
>Rikka is the main character
isn't*
>>135500418
Mochi is a great character. He has boyish qualities, while still being moe. He's certainly not a self-insert for anyone.
>>135500247
>>135500439
I think you guys are discussing two very different things.
It seems like the original anon was pointing out that they aren't "strong" characters as in how developed they were. You guys seem to be talking about how "strong' they are as people.
>>135499642
>>135499718
>>135499894
>>135499781
Tamako being in love with him just didn't ring true at all for me. For a self-proclaimed "love story" there was no love story between them. It's just he confesses to her, she runs off, random shit happens while she looks pensive, and eventually she's like alright I'm into him too.
I'm definitely not a yuri shipper. I didn't bother starting the series until after the movie had been subbed, and I already knew Tamako ends up with dude. I thought the series was decent, and I was totally ready for this thing that was being touted as "the greatest love story ever told" about Tamako and dude. And at the end of the day they had very few scenes together, a lot of them just looking awkwardly at each other without expressing anything. And when they were apart literally the only thing Tamako ever said that could be a reason she'd have an emotional attachment to him was because he was at her mom's funeral. Okay? So how does that make her FEEL? It's never expressed.
By the end of the movie I was not emotionally invested in their "romance" and the actual ending was just anti-climactic.
>>135499908
Mochizou is great but every single chu-2 character is garbage, reflecting their origin from a LN. I often call the Tamako Market characters shallow but none of them approach the pointlessness of Kumin honestly.
>>135485293
>Liking Tamako Market at all
>>135500628
DFM has a lot of development. It's absurd to argue otherwise.
Mochizou doesn't necessarily have an arc in the movie, but we see several sides of him. He's not a static, one-dimensional character at all. We see his more pathetic vulnerable side, but also his reliable, manly side, like when he goes with her to the hospital.
>>135500702
> and eventually she's like alright I'm into him too.
She loved him all along but because of her innocence she didn't recognize it for what it was until she realized he was "leaving". I don't really see whats so hard to understand about that, it certainly fits into her character.
Why would you claim that if you didn't watch it when it aired?
>>135500418
Its not like they are god tier supporting characters, I think they worked well for what they were intended for.
Its just better, in my opinion, to introduce non-developed characters by interacting with the more interesting, already-developed characters in the series. The supporting characters were done this way, usually via Dera and Tamako.
The problem with Mochizou is that he wasn't given any development outside of his crush on Tamako, and with the sudden focus on him made a good chunk of the movie uninteresting, with the only interesting parts being at the end when Tamako was heavily involved and not just avoiding him.
In the end, Mochizou did get development, but in my opinion it wasn't there when it really mattered to make me invested into the movie like I was into the show.
>>135500843
>She loved him all along
Why would I care if the anime doesn't SHOW me this? Why should I be invested? She never expressed any strong feelings for him one way or another throughout the show, and she still doesn't in the movie. This makes for a boring love story.
>>135500737
good for you pal.
>>135500821
>DFM has a lot of development. It's absurd to argue otherwise.
I wouldn't really call it "a lot", his development can be summed up as being easily embarrassed about his chuuni past to being less embarrassed about his chuuni past + having a girlfriend. As a character he didn't really grow all that much. The development in Chu2 was completely dominated by Rika.
Season 2 definitely had more growth for DFM but I might have overlooked that because of how bad the overall season was.
>>135500843
Not her innocence exactly but her desire to maintain the status quo. It was because Mochizou was leaving that she had to come to terms with things not being able to stay the same forever and had to mature for once.
>>135499878
Why is her sister so sexy
>>135500702
It made perfect sense. You just wanted her to be an asexual moeblob who you can idealize.
Tamako's mother died, which is why she finds so much comfort in the childish little rut she's living in. She blankets herself in her picturesque little nook she lives in, and is oblivious to everything going on around her, including how both her best friends feel about her.
When Mochizou confesses and says he's leaving to Tokyo, it forces her to face harsh truths she never wanted to think about. She would have been happy with things staying the same forever, but she realizes that that isn't realistic. It also forces her to really think about what Mochizou means to her - whether he's just another part of the idyllic scenery or something more.
Tamako Love Story is great. It's 10/10. You just didn't understand it.
>>135501112
They did. It was sprinkled throughout the series and then overtly stated/shown many times during the movie.
>>135485293
/a/ didn't "went crazy" you slav son of a bitch. It had potential but was COMPLETELY squandered. Most boring series of the last decade.
>>135500702
But as I stated before, it's not that he was at her mom's funeral, it's that he has always been there for her through the hard times. There was part where she thought her dad was trying to cheer her up with a face painted on mochi, and because of that she always loved mochi since it was always there for her. Then she remembers that it was Mochizou who cheered her up, and she realizes that he was always there for her. Which is why she realized she loved him, just like she loved her mochi.
Also her running off is more due to her immaturity. She likes her little bubble of a perfect unchanging life. It even alludes to this when everyone is thinking of graduation but shes still stuck in her life. Then Mochizou confesses and says he's leaving to Tokyo, and she realizes that her perfect life is shattered (she loses her contacts after the confession and her world becomes blurred) and the movie is her coming to progressing into maturity, and embracing change even though she's scared. Which is also why everyone faces their fear in the movie (Mochizou confessing, Kana climbing the tree, Shiori moving to a homestay, and Midori giving up Tamako)
>>135501475
Mochi is so fashionable!
>>135501112
Holy fucking shit, it's a type of romance, you dumb bastard. It's about not realizing what you have until you're going to lose it. It would have been a completely different story entirely if she was blushing around him all the time and wanting to hold his hand.
>>135501475
>>135501578
I love it when Kyoani /fa/'s the fuck out of their characters.
>>135501327
>They did. It was sprinkled throughout the series
Literally where.
>>135501578
If only he didn't tuck his pants into his boots, that outfit would work.
>>135501578
His boots are so fruity, and right at the end of the movie, it almost ruined it for me. But he has a gf so he's not really. Also, it is true he has a mole on his ear and not a fag earring?
>>135501423
This anon gets it
Tamako Market is the worst "slice of life" anime to date, because it leads you up to thinking shit is going to happen but then they don't fucking do anything about it
The prince, the bird, the egyptian girl, none of it impacted anything even though Kyoani made it seem like something was going to happen.
Slice of Life anime is fine but when you lead the audience into thinking there will be something of a grander scheme happening in the next few episodes and not do fuck all about it then that's when you get the most boring anime of all time.
and I find it incredibly difficult to believe there are people that actually like this shit, it's not even a "it's so bad it's good" kind of show, it's just shit.
>>135501784
>not tucking your pants into your boots
>getting the bottom of your pants dirty like a filthy hobo
>not realizing that tucking pants into boots also hearkens back to a vintage 1920's-30's style
You may no worry yourself with speaking on these matters, Anonymous.
Tamako would have made a better couple with another girl.
I'm not Midori by the way.
>>135501972
>samefagging your own posts
>>135502020
hmmmmm
>>135501199
>>135501327
>>135501475
Look, I can understand if you guys liked it, but I don't understand how you can get from what you're describing to 10/10. Of course it was always implied that the two of them were the default romantic pairing, it's stated over and over that dude is into her but she's too childish or whatever.
So now he's leaving and it makes her realize that her status quo is fucked. Something's gotta give, so either she'll end up without him or she has to commit to dating him or whatever.
I'm sorry, but it's just not compelling. She's just being petulant and selfish, the whole story leads me to believe that she is only doing this because she wants him to stay around more than because she's in "love" with him. I don't even believe that she has the first idea what being in love is. Dude would have been better off leaving.
>>135501972
the entire show was just false advertisement, the very first episode made you think it might have been something a little more than just a slice of life but then it really was.
I can remember all the threads of anons thinking shit was finally going to happen but nothing does. The only reason why anyone really bothered to finish the show was because literally every episode made you think something was gonna happen in the next episode.
>>135502088
>can't argue that I'm wrong so you just accuse me of samefagging
congratulations, you're only proving my point on how boring Tamako Market is.
>>135501972
>>135502229
I largely agree with this guy. The whole island princess plot went nowhere and felt pointless, the ONLY good thing that came out of it was when Tamako threw her little tantrum. If anything it all felt like an excuse to have the bird character there, who though annoying at first, did kinda grow on me as he became a part of the family and less of a comic relief character.
But yeah, the actual major plot of the show, about her being a princess and that dude showing up, was pretty weak.
>>135502186
I don't agree with you that it's a bad movie, but at the same time, I also found myself wondering what all these people see in Tamako.
She's cute, but she's makes a lot of elementary school jokes and is as dumb as a box of rocks.
>want cute fanart of Tamako
>the best ones are paired with Mochizou
Its nice and all, but I just want Tamako, damnit.
>>135502186
Anon, what is love other than wanting someone to be with you?
AND THE WINNER IS
>>135502546
I know how that feels, I want cutelewdfan art of Anko but can't find any real good ones.
>>135502500
She is a very warm character.
Someone I'd like toadopt
>>135502500
She's Yamada's self-insert and Yamada is moe. In Mochi man's case it's enough that they were together so much that he's closer to her than any other girls and she has a vagina. It's not a match made in heaven or anything but it's realistic.
>>135502500
And to be clear, I don't think it's a bad movie, it's just not super compelling. It's like 7/10 or something. It's not some flawless masterpiecelike Disappearance was. There were a lot of things I liked about it, the characters felt stronger than in the show, it didn't have the weird island prince stuff going on, less bird action. I liked it more than the series, I just don't think it was the greatest love story ever told. For context, the greatest anime love story ever told was in fact Kare Kanowhich ends at episode 18.
>>135502664
That's a complicated question. What is love in reality, or what is love in the reality of this film?
Pound Anko's manko
>>135502781
Why is she so perfect?
>>135503243
I don't know, it's impossible to describe her perfection. I just know I need her extremely.
>>135503470
It's impolite to be a pedophile, Anonymous.
i got this shows name mixed up with the tatami galaxy once
>>135485293
Girls were cute, bird was kinda annoying.
The movie was better.
>>135503601
kek
>>135503616
Dera is a cute bird and doesn't deserve all the hate he gets.
>>135503560
It's also impolite to accuse someone of being one when they like 2D, bully.
>>135503860
If Dera didn't exist the show would be better in every way.
>>135504588
Just look at this sexy, refined gentleman.
One could only hate him out of envy.
>>135485293
Because it's boring, not in a good kind of boring like Iyashikei which transcends boring and becomes healing but just outright boring.