I just finished Overlord. Is there a sequel planned? The series ends before the plot can really take off, and it's clear that what's going to follow is going to be much more interesting than what has been shown so far (which was, essentially, unfruitful reconnaissance).
The concept is refreshing and I'd really like to see its potential realised.
Alternatively, does the manga already go any further into the novel's story than the anime did?
It's just one of those countless anime that are produced to fuel the manga/LNs sells, that end in the middle of nowhere and cover 5% of the story at best.
In b4
>Madhouse
>Season 2
>>135384052
>does the manga already go any further into the novel's story than the anime did?
No, the anime surpassed the manga.
the plot never takes off
>>135384259
It took off in volume 9.
>>135384294
thats long enough to stop caring about a series
>>135384294
Nah it takes off at volume 5 and 6. The characters are interesting in that arc and things actually start happening.
>still talking about Skelly Art Online
It's almost 2016, come on.
>>135384428
No, it's volume 4, we got a full volume of documentary about how lizards live and reproduce in hash environment.
>>135384499
There is literally nothing wrong with going into intricate detail over how your favourite fictional species of humanoids could realistically exist in different environments.
t. someone who is building a biological and socio-cultural headcanon like that for realistic mermaids
>>135384167
the show had potential though, 1st 3 episodes were good , but then it became a harem power fantasy and then I lost interest .
>>135384634
I was disappointed by how the most interesting concept is the MC being an overpowered lich king, but then most of the show is about him going undercover as an adventurer warrior to gather information.
This would be fine if the series was longer and this actually led to the main plot, but given how it's only episodes, it's sad that most of it is wasted with this rather boring setup.
>>135384634
Nah, he is actually really become an evil lord.
But not even S2 can cover that part
>>135384709
>most of the show is about him going undercover as an adventurer warrior to gather information
Because the entire show is just a prelude of the whole series. It's like someone refuse to believe the world round because they can only see flat grounds.
>>135384760
>Nah, he is actually really become an evil lord.
anon I literally just told you I'm not interested in power fantasies.
>>135384869
I'm aware of that. I just find it regrettable that the show didn't give more of a foretaste of the eventual main course of the story.
>>135384999
>he doesn't want to be a skeleton lich king
I bet you still wear muscle, fat, and skin over your bones.
>>135385062
I'm just not the type of guy that can be pandered to like that.
>power fantasies
>harem shit
Its usually both unfortunately.
>>135385162
That reflects reality though. Powerful conquerors (Mongol khans, Ottoman sultans, etc.) as well as sedentary rulers like the Chinese emperors usually had large harems (that's where the term originates, after all).
While the Christian European nobility did not, they were also be prone to be more promiscuous than they should have been, and occasionally had one or two mistresses on the side.
If anything, coupling harem shit with power fantasies is much less pathetic than giving some whimpy beta a harem of qts for no reason other than the most blatant pandering.
>>135385162
>Its usually both unfortunately.
not really , harem protags have a tendency to be non threatening and bland.
>>135385275
If MC chooses only one girl fans bitch cause it isnt their favourite.
If harem bitch cause pandering.
If you only put bros it turns into fujoshit.
If you give each characther a waifu/husbando they dont care and ship what they want.
No matter what you do it is a lost cause.
>>135385436
It's a no win situation.
>>135384052
Read the light novel.
>>135385654
You alredy know what people are going to say to that.
>>135385365
Maybe it works in some normal school haremshit slice of life, but in these LNs that get adapted recently? Yeah right, mc will be "bland" and "non threatening".
>>135385654
READING IS FOR FAGGOT
USA USA USA
>>135385275
>coupling harem shit with power fantasies is much less pathetic than giving some whimpy beta a harem
>blatant pandering
I don't see how giving betas harems isn't pandering. Most of the WNs I read usually make the MC some superawesomespecialguy who's taking over the world at age 17 and indulging in many beautiful women attracted to his power and money rather than looks or charm.
Slave Harem is the most recent one I read. MC downright buys his harem and then pampers the fuck out of them to appease the betas who still want to feel like their doing the girls a favor by literally enslaving them.
Of course the MC is insecure as fuck so it gets hilarious at times but you can see that its almost never "MC beats his women and they love him for it" its always "MC kills everything besides the girls and they love him for it"
Also did nigel do the bd yet please say yes
>>135386145
Nope, I checked Sky's site nothing there.
>>135386230
>Chk Sky
Does Nigel still post stuff on Sky?
>>135386309
He posted the drama CD's and the other BD sidestory there.
>>135386230
dammit
I was thinking maybe he pastebinned it or something
>>135386309
since sky said he would remove the overload stuff next year in a couple days I can't see why he would
>>135384052
They did the Anime as a 13 ep Ads for the LN actually.
They left out shitloads of stuff in the LN too. That is why some scene looks odd.
>>135386347
I don't think he translated it yet, otherwise he would've posted the link on one of the Overlord threads.
The year is almost over and there's no volume 10 yet...
Any update on LN 10?
>>135386393
hence why I asked because I couldn't find it in the archive
>>135386397
You can read the WN translation. I'm putting it off because I want to reread vol 9 but I'm busy reading other LN/WNs thanks to overlord
>>135386420
no
>>135386393
>I don't think he translated it yet, otherwise he would've posted the link on one of the Overlord threads.
The ain;t much OL threads lately. Even there is, it turned into a war.
With ppl calling each other to fuck/kill themselves.
And tons of fake info and shit.
>>135386397
Vol.10 comes out march 2nd 2016, so we better pray someone post the raws somewhere and Nigel or someone translates them.
>>135386455
I was there dude those threads were fuckin chaos, renember "Overlord SAO edition"
>you will never be a bodypillow
>>135386443
The WN only goes up to Vol.9, dosen't have Albedo and has Ainz go to Hogwa- I mean the Imperial magic school to do pretty much nothing.
>>135386459
I'd buy it if Nigel says he'll translate it. I'd even sacrifice it to provide proper scans.
>>135386554
Yeah I just really fell in love with this series so any content is appreciated at this point. I never read an LN before the OL anime now I've read them all day instead of anime.
Its also fun to see how maru fairs without an editor
>>135386497
>"Overlord SAO edition"
What was so wrong on so many levels
>>135386633
isn't it weird that there's only one guy who said he would do it when its this popular? Is it because of legal threats?
>>135386633
I wouldn't be able to get cuz I can't ship it here and I have no scanner to use.
>>135386669
Yeah I'm the same, this actually the first LN I've ever read and I loved it,but them JewPress came in and fucked up everything.
>>135386459
>Vol.10 comes out march 2nd 2016
The odd thing is he completed it late Nov. The last rumour is about mid Dec. So, March is the official one?
>>135386723
Yeah it's probably the legal threats, but I also don't get why no one else is interested even with the danger.
>>135386763
I heard that a publisher said that's the estimated release date.
>>135386723
Well, now we just need Nigel to show up to confirm he'll do it. I have ordered magazines from Area 11 before, a novel shouldn't be that much more of a problm.
>>135386759
I'm grateful we got 9 volumes of passable translations at least. I don't think yenpress is really to blame here, localization for anime has always been a sore point for /a/.
>>135386723
Since when Legal threats prevents anyone behaving as an Anon.
The issue is mainly,
1) How to get the items
2) Actually scanning them
The 1) part is covered by another Anon with a Risk tablecloth
The 2) well, the Anon that is scanning the Artbook went missing.So did the GB Anon. He probably gave up.
>>135386867
I'd have absolutely no issue with yenpress if they actually finished what they start. And do it in a more timely fashion, the wait times are ludicrous.
>>135386855
> we just need Nigel to show up
He normally pops up about 2 hours back. He rarely pops at this time unless there is a release and it is the weekends.
And NO.. I am not Stalking him
>>135386939
This, don't they also drop some series and don't give up the rights?
>>135384634
This. The female characters are annoying because of their obsession with the protagonist. Yeah yeah they're "programmed" to worship him, but it doesn't make it any less annoying to constantly repeatedly hear about how they moist themselves for the guy. Even the "subtle" quiet maid woman (Nabe?) got annoying with her overblown devotion to the protagonist.
Really wanted more screen time from the male subordinates because they seem more reserved about their loyalty to their boss. Plus male character dynamics are always superior to waifu shit harem shtick.
>>135385654
I heard the same argument from homestuck fags back in the day saying I need to read a lot more before it doesn't suck , balderdash I say!
If the beginning sucks then I'm not going to waste my time in getting in a work
>>135386948
Time to summon him.
>>135386977
Well, if you are Yenpress, and you spent X amount of $$$ on a license for X amount of years.
Will you give it up even if you drop a series?
I got this bad feeling I'm the only Yurifag left.
>>135386511
Maybe it's just me, but anyone else hate every single female character in this show because being demons they are literally anti-human. Talk about a turn off.
>>135387134
Are you a HFY fag?
>>135387086
Yeah I understand from a business stand point, but it still sucks ass that we can't have translations because they're to lazy to translate their shit.
>>135387053
>If the beginning sucks then I'm not going to waste my time in getting in a work
Legend of the Galactic Heroes or Babylon 5, for example, both take a season's worth of episodes before they really get going. If you'll drop anything just because the beginning sucks, you'll miss out on quite a few gems.
Though it usually becomes apparently early on whether a story/setting has potential or not (though if that potential is eventually realised is a different question).
>>135387134
Theocracy fag detected.
>>135387134
Can I ask you a completely off topic question?
>>135386990
they want the B too anon
>sebas: shall I accompany you to bed?
>>135387197
if you can actually put that much attention into the series you probably like it already. B5 knew it was a slow political space show and they changed gears which brought the series quality down anyways.
You can't write serious sci-fi when you have lizard aliens and napoleon aliens, you just can't.
>>135387440
The beginning of B5 didn't captivate me at all actually; I even dropped out halfway into the first season. The other two people I'd been simuwatching them with kept going though, and a few episodes later I was drawn back in and from there on I enjoyed it.
>You can't write serious sci-fi when you have lizard aliens and napoleon aliens, you just can't.
Preposterous! Those napoleon aliens brought forth best character (pic related) and also had the most interesting internal politics going on out of all the alien factions.
>>135387086
Fans of Yuri will never die and if they do, they'll just rise up again as either skeletons or dullahans, depending on which denomination they belong to.
One year of waiting for her time to shine and she got few bits of moments but I'd kill for a proper adventure for her and CZ.
Yeah, admittedly I watched the anime first, then blazed through the manga (which cut off even before the big fight) before trying the LN. This lizardman chapter is a real slog for me.
Why'd they have to drop the anime. I thought it was plenty engaging.
>>135387972
The anime did exactly what it was meant to do, sell more LN. There will be no second season.
>>135388048
Unless they feel S2 would bring additional profit and merchandise potential on its own. I doubt it would boost the LN sales any higher at this point.
>>135387655
Once they settled their bullshit the Londo and G'Kar power hour was the best thing.even the murder suicide was kind of poignant
>>135388084
>overlord figures never
>>135389579
One day anon, one day....
>>135387972
>he doesn't like lizardmens
SHUT UP AND FINISH IT FAGGOT
>>135389684
Lizardmens started off a bit boring at first, but it picked up during the war part.
>>135389579
>>135389640
Don't think so, seems like they focus only on the Anime to boost sales.
Merchandise is just a side show.
Or
The merchandise makers don;t think OL is gonna be a hit anyway, and didn;t bother to license.
This show is edgy. But it's a good kind of edgy.
Nigel were you at bro! We need that new BD side-story.
>>135389894
It's not that edgy honestly, I've seen shows that are far edgiersometimes for the worse
I found the anime was very engaging for me, but the LN was a bit boring at times with lots of useless info about shit that never happened again. I appreciate the detail but fuck off with the boring shit about how long the sword is that he only uses once or the boring conversation about the maids cheering on the fucktards just give me the action and a bit of set up.
Both the lizardmen and the nazarick invasion stories were like that stroll through the woods from the anime, but magnified tenfold. They felt like the biggest filler.
>>135387730
>I'd kill for a proper adventure for her and CZ
Well my money is on, one day she might just go full Sebas and disobey Ainz on some stuff. End up her sister need to hunt her down.
Or She needs to put down one of her sisters for reasons.
Either way, bad end.
>>135389742YOSH
>>135390034
The lizardmen story for me is like, he had a plan for them, but after the book ended and he went back to write book 5, he probably dropped them and write something else due to, maybe publisher advice due to reviews.
>>135390008
>just give me the action and a bit of set up
People don't read Overlord just for the action, they read it for the world building and characters, and while the info dumps are bit excessive at times they're necessary and if the author has the chance to explain shit and give backstory why not take it.
>>135390008
>lots of useless info about shit that never happened again
>The series doesn't even end
Are you a psychic anon?
If climb did something like kill his master then i would understand his being there but nothing, just nothing. There was no point for his existence unless the author decides to revisit him, otherwise it was just pointless
>>135390218
He's there to be a parody of all shonen MC's and to have way o Nazarick to keep Renner in check.
>>135385654
What's the translation like? Do they remember what commas are?
>>135390287
Vol 1-3 are bit off, but everything after is good.
>>135384634
>the show had potential though
No, it went absolutely nowhere.
>>135390008
I agree its fairly slow, but its pretty comfy to read.
>>135390362
I love the LN's but they did a shit job with the anime.
>>135390336
>Vol 1-3 are bit off
Didn;t some Anon when and corrected them?
>almost 2016
>still no OST
The fuck?
>>135387134
>every single female character is anti-human
Every member of Nazarick is anti-human, with the sole exception of Sebas. Demiurge flays the skin from his captive humans, uses the skin to make spell scrolls, then heals the humans and repeats the process.
>>135390413
I thought Nigel was doing that?
>>135390467
>I thought Nigel was doing that?
Don;t think so, can't expect him to do everything under the sun, will probably own his RL.
>>135387134
>Doesn't know about femdom
>>135390465
No, not all Females are Anti-Human.
Nigredo, Pestonya, Yuri and CZ are ok with them.
Entoma don;t really mind humans and Solution love babies.
>>135390492
Really, I thought he said he was doingg in his free-time? Whatevs.
>>135390362
the 1st three episodes led me to believe that the story was going to be about a salary man trying to pretend to be an overlord and not be found out which I find a sort of fresh and original concept.
Whao I'm kinda surprised, this Overlord Thread is still going in a rather friendly pace.
The last few have ppl throwing shit at one another already.
>>135390641
>I find a sort of fresh and original concept.
Other then the vmmorpg part.
>>135390725
The few previous threads were obviously created to be reported and deleted. No long running fan of the Bones cruise would start a thread like that. I'll just blame Chairman Mao and Yen Press for being evil for that shit.
>>135390725
Don't jinx it anon!inb4 the thread devolves into shitposting
>>135390402
I think it advertised the LNs to a perfect extent. I fell in love with the characters and the setting instantly, but in the end I felt that the novels were much superior. The later outcomes had a much bigger impact on me after the characters had got the proper introduction before anything meaningful happened.The only real disappointment is Shalltear not getting any further development throughout 9 fucking novels and pretty much being left out as a one dimensional character
>>135390793
Your favorite meido is fucking shit m8
>>135390760
>vmmorpg
it seemed like an original take on it at least.
>>135390641
There's a lot more of that in the LN series. In the anime you don't get to hear as much of his internal dialogue. In the LN he's often stressed about having to be the leader of Nazarick and deal with their burning desire to please him.
>>135390855
Check the drama Cd's if you want a bit more development for Shalltear.
>>135390888
Aleast it wasn't "traped in a game gotta get out" bullshit.
>>135390907
trick me once shame on you, trick me twice shame on me.
>>135390911
Oh, that's good to know. Speaking of which, how are the side stories that are always being mentioned? Are those the drama CDs or is there a text format? And finally where do you even get those? They weren't included in the mega link.
>>135390556
>Entoma
Entoma like to eat humans. If she's not hungry she just ignores them. I'll give you the others, though. I guess there are a lot more who don't despise humans than I thought.
>>135390981
Not a trick dude, he's not bullshiting.
>>135384999
Then there is literally no reason to like this show.
Aside from character interaction, but most of it is based off them all being really powerful.
Also it's madhouse, so season 2 never.
>>135390981
That literally happens in the LN. His subordinates are much more intelligent than him and he has no idea what hes doing.
>>135391043
Drama Cd's are seperate from the BD side-story's You can find them on sky's blog.
>>135390981
Not trying to trick you or anything. If you don't like the anime you probably wont like the LN since it is fairly slow. There is a lot more internal monologue, though.
>>135391108
I was mostly asking about any text based side stories, though. If there are any.
>MMO player gets trapped in a single player RPG
>refreshing concept
>>135391167
That's just the backstory, anon. It has no real effect on the story.
>>135391101
That's just Demiurge. The other NPCs aren't particularly smart in general or at least their potential had never been put to use. And even still, all that Demiurge showcases is being full of ideas, but how he ends up putting those ideas to work is still questionable. In the end, there's no telling how an artificial intellect compares to an actual human being's.
>>135391287
Yeah nah pretty much all the NPCs are smarter than him to an extent. He has no idea what he wants to do aside from protecting his kids.
>>135391287
Don't forget Albedo and PA, they're both on par with Demiurge in term of smarts.
>>135391167
It's a real, breathing, functional world. It isn't an RPG.
I don't think the MMO thing is visited or thought about at all from the MC aside from "I miss my friends" and "I hope another person doesn't come along and fuck my asshole".
>>135391347
>>135391383
The issue is they're mentally deranged, obedient slaves of their programming and incapable of thought that's not being influenced by their loyalty to nazarick. They're inherently flawed, computer generated artificial creatures. There's no saying what mistakes they could be making because of that. Also, momonga's handicap is the uncertainty of his actions, but that's also what give him an advantage over everyone else as he's not blinded by unwarranted confidence.
>>135391496
They're not even mentally deranged. Humans hate monsters, monsters hate humans.
Humans would do the same exact thing to the monsters if given the chance. They'd use them for science, poke at them, prod them, take pieces of them to learn some shred of their power's secrets. The difference is that these monsters, or monsters in general, have the strength to defend themselves against most humans.
>>135391496
You're right and that's one of the things that makes the series interesting, even though they're smarter than Ainz they are flawed with their thinking and while Ainz is not as smart as them in some regards (he's still nº1 when it comes to pvp) he can see things they don't.
>>135391563
My point being is they seem deranged because of their seemingly irrational loyalty. It's like a directive coded deep into their minds guiding their every action through absolute obedience to nazarick. They're literally incapable to override this through anything else than own ignorance and flawed logic.
All right /a/, you've convinced me to give the LN a try. Where can I find the translation?
>>135391693
Skythewood, google it.
>>135391496
>obedient slaves of their programming
Except they aren't. Their personalities are determined by how they were programmed, but they are quite capable of learning and adapting, as Momonga proves a few times in the LN. By the time they are adults, most people have a set personality anyway so they are really no different than normal beings except that Momonga gets to peek at their code.
>They're inherently flawed, computer generated artificial creatures
Every human being is flawed, why should computer generated creatures made by human beings be any different?
>>135391693
https://mega.nz/#F!9gcB1JTS!WHAlQqEoYUgpdy8cdCg5qg
this includes LNs, some drama CDs and illustrations
Does Overlord have any underground translations?
>>135391690
I wouldn't say extreme loyalty makes them deranged. They have learned and adapted to what the MC has told them to do, and what he hasn't told them to do.
>>135391741
There's no evidence that they can ever go against Nazarick. No human is perfectly devoted to any ideal, but their motivations seem to go beyond just brainwashing. They're literally programmed for absolute loyalty.
>>135391806
>There's no evidence that they can ever go against Nazarick.
Sebas, I rest my case.
>>135391879
I wouldn't say so. Sebas operates within the confines of his personality, but he still has that loyalty factor rooted into him. Unless there's actual evidence that he can directly question his gods' motivations, I'd say he's equally bound by his programming.
>>135391730
>>135391745
Thanks.
>>135391879
He didn't betray Ainz, he's so loyal he would kill his own waifu if asked to do it by a supreme being.
Also, keep in mind their programmed traits conflicts a lot with Ainz' commands. See, for example, how Nabe has such a hard time not calling him Ainz-sama.
>>135391879
And even Sebas thought the worst humiliation for him or any resident of Nazarick would be to be killed as a traitor.
He had his own reasons to not consider his actions in long term as he probably should have and he even wondered if he could call his need for justice a curse from his creator.
They would never actively take the decision to harm Nazarick, never. Only if their background had enormous hole for wiggling with moral issues they could act somewhat outside of what's good for Nazarick.
So that leaves us the Penguin (the eternal joke) and the residents of 8th Floor since we know nothing about their personalities or background lore to consider.
Would you, a Lupus?
>>135384578
seek help, senpai, before it's too late
>>135391806
That is kind of the point. The series is about Momonga and how he interacts with these creatures and their loyalty and love for him. The MC is an average Japanese salaryman who is totally unprepared to deal with the situation which leads to hilarity.
I'm only partway through book 6 but there's already plenty of examples of them not being completely loyal. Sebas, for example, adopts a human woman which leads to conflict and ends up with the forces of Nazarick wiping out the criminal organization, something they should never have gotten involved with in the first place.
Albedo is another interesting case, because it seems like there is going to be some strife with her too. I can only assume it is because Momonga changed her personality to say that "she loves Momonga", then went and changed his name which totally fucked over her programming.
>>135385654
Seconding and thirding this. Read the fucking novels.
>>135392099
The original question is to how we as readers are supposed to interpret these characters' intellects when they're different kinds of beings governed by their own rules. Does human intelligence apply to a mind that's inherently limited by restrictions of computer programming? Is it possible that they can never compare to actual human beings with actual free will and therefore make mistakes no human would? I think it is likely.
>>135391044
Here try this. Some Anon translated it long ago. But we lost the translations.
So how about that extra story?
No Lupus, Unless you want so quality time with discipline
>>135392637
Nope, Nigel hasn't delivered.
>>135392748
Take a break from Gate Nigel. Some things are more important.
>>135392523
I don't believe they are computer programs any longer. In the very beginning of the series when the MMO shut down all the NPCs in Nazarick were given life. This is why Momonga can peek at their character sheets but cannot change them.
Sure, their loyalty is a result of their programming as much as every other aspect of their character. However, being that they are living things they can adapt and change like any other. Their loyalty is a deeply rooted part of their personality, and I don't see it as likely to change without some catastrophic, personality changing event. This is not to say they have no free will. Every sentient being has free will but that doesn't mean they will go against their own personality for no good reason.
>>135392786
Nigel Y U do dis!
I hope Shalltear is treated fairly in the novels., She deserves all the love because Albedo is a snaky bitch.
>>135394069
She's treated very wellas a chair
>>135394139
>>135384634
They skipped so much in the first 3 episodes, it did its job of hooking newcomers to the series, but it wasnt a very good adaptation.
