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What did he mean by this?
"I'm literally making shit up as I go but by the power of ancient Egyptian magic it'll fucking work. Suck a dick, Kaiba."
Weren't the rules of the game "as long as you believe my bullshit, it's a rule". At least before the card game came out.
Still makes more sense than that pendulum shit.
>>135339024
That was in a part of yugioh where the author was literally making everything up and the only thing that mattered was that when two monster battle, the one with more attack wins and if your life points go to 0, you lose.
iirc the cards in the manga in the duel kingdom arc didn't even had text so anything that was cool was ok.
>>135339111
You're just stupid
>>135339024
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this made before the actual card game was fully designed?
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>>135339101
>>135339198
Yeah, the TCG wasn't out until the Battle City arc of the manga, so most duels from the first one and Death T, all the way to the Pegasus duel were them making shit up. Or I guess, those were the "old" rules that still make more sense than Forbidden Memories.
The TCG was already out by the time the show started, but I guess they would have to completely change the duels if they wanted them to fit the actual rules.
And the cards did have text in the Duelist Kingdom arc in the manga. Don't think they had them before DK. Before Duelist Kingdom, Yugi even praised Kaiba for using a magic card to boost his ATK, saying he's a genius for that.
>>135339024
The entire game is a metaphor.
Yugi was really a black guy channeling his inner Egyptian king to take down the white man and his establishment. Was obvious from "Dark" Magician, "Dark" Magician Girl, and Exodia.
Mammoth Graveyard represents the graves of all black people oppressed by the white man, the Living Arrow represents a gun.
Yugi sticks it to the white man, a.k.a. the Blue Eyes White Dragon fusion, by shooting him with an arrow that carries with it the centuries of oppression faced by Yugi's people.
>>135339370
>still make more sense than Forbidden Memories.
Forbidden Memories made complete sense though?
>>135339392
Dark Magician is even called "Black Magician" in the original Japanese.
>>135339444
Fusions and Rituals swapped places for their tributes. Rituals in FM require 3 specific cards, while many fusions are only based on the attribute of your monster.
As a kid I took it as that there was a rule where if you fused two monsters that weren't a match they both just got destroyed
>>135339499
>>135339392
Black magic is normal RPG shit. UD had the weirdest aversion to the word black though.
>>135339836
I think the worst was "Dark Hole".
>>135339988
Fuck, I never paid much attention to that. Shit's glorious.
>>135339695
Yeah, and? The rules still make complete sense.
>>135339836
There's a few exceptions for cases where things are clearly objects.
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Just noticed, they never really shuffled their decks in the Duelist Kingdom arc. No wonder everyone always gets the cards they need. They are all cheating.
>>135339370
That wonders of making a card game intended for two chapters the basis for the whole series.
Kaiba is the superior dullest tho so
>>135341792
>yugi pls no beat me ;_;
>i kill myself
>>135341948
He is just desperate to save his little brother.
>>135339370
The funny thing about the infamous Attack the moon scene is that they made it into a real card
>http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_the_Moon!
>Continous Spell
>Once per turn, when the battle position of a Rock-Type monster you control is changed: You can target 1 Spell/Trap Card your opponent controls; destroy that target.
In fact, in the Yugioh Legacy of the Duelist game's storymode, in the level you play against Mako, Yugi will use a rock deck that centers around Attack the Moon!
>>135339024
At that Point of the story duel monsters wasn't an actual card game. It was more like a RPG. Hence Yugi using the moon to change the sea level, monks using labyrinths to hide their monsters,Kuriboh multiplying himself to make Relinquished explode,etc..
>>135339198
>>135339370
It's nothing compared to Season 0 where Kaiba can summon Blue Eyes White Dragon without sacrifices
>>135339392
Dark Magician/Dark Magician Girl are known as Black Magician/Black Magician Girl in the original japanese version as well
It all makes sense
>>135342908
>Kaiba can summon Blue Eyes White Dragon without sacrifices
He could do that even in duelist Kingdom. The game had some sort of rules only in Battle city. Before,it was just roleplaying.
>>135342908
>>135342962
I always wondered what the point of Ritual Monsters was during Duelist Kingdom.
You can already summon monsters with high attack with no sacrifices, so they were even worse than they used to be in the actual card game.
>>135343014
>I always wondered what the point of Ritual Monsters was
Relinquished.
>>135343205
Got me there, but that one was actually an effect monster, which was rare in Duelist Kingdom. Point still stands for Black Luster Soldier, Magician of Black Chaos (why did Yugi have 2 Rituals?) and Zera the Mant
>>135342962
Didn't he also summon 3 Blue Eyes White Dragons in a single turn in one of his duels vs Yugi in Season 0?
I also remember him openly cheating by putting Sugoroku's Blue Eyes White Dragon on top of his deck in the middle of his first duel with Yugi(it was fucking hilarious)
>>135339836
Joey is lucky to have won this card from rax.
>>135343604
Luck is literally the only reason Joey ever won anything
>>135343698
This makes him different from Yugi because
>no one bitching about when catapult turtle launches curse of dragon to the castle of dark illusions which breaks the ring and comes crushing down killing every other monster with it
>>135343014
Relinquished could be fused and His fusion is OP as fuck even in the actual card game. For the others, high ATK monsters were really rare, rituals weren't, so that was the only way for Yugi to have a monster with 3000 atk.
>>135342908
>>135342962
>>135343014
While I can almost possibly buy poor nobody kids having to fill out their decks with shitty monsters, someone like kaiba who could afford every card in the game had no excuse for not just filling his deck with 40 2500+ attack monsters. If you don't need to tribute what possible reason is there to run shitty little 600 attack bitches.
>>135343752
It's not luck if you're using bullshit magic to make it happen.
Why was Yami so edgy?
Who else is excited for the eventual Duel Monsters remake when Dark Side of Dimensions rakes in more than Star Wars and Jurassic World combined?
>>135343873
If they ever remake DM then they better add the new summoning methods somehow.
Duels in DM were fucking bad, the only duels that come even close to being as bad (if not worse) are Zexal's.
>>135343812
Because IT WAS NOT A CARD GAME. The game in duelist Kingdom is fucking roleplaying,it has a terrain and all the monsters are unique. You could win in the weirdest ways if you had a brain. For example the surfer would have won against Kaiba by only using his shitty 1000 atk octopus because he hid it in the sea.
>>135343812
he did, then Pegasus fucked him up with his own Crush Card Virus
I think when YGO first came out, it was supposed to be more about the adventure/plot than the card game.
Then Konami happened. YGO is basically a cash cow for Konami at this point.
>>135343812
2500+ atk monsters were really rare.You must be either rich or lucky as fuck to have more than one in the deck.
>>135344029
This. Only selected duelists have it.
>>135343781
I'd bitch more about Atem destroying a monster with infinite attack value with and infinite Magic>Monster Effect loop which is somehow more infinite than infinity but to each his own.
Or him fusing Zombie Mammoth with BURUU AIZU HOWAITO DORAGON to make it rot from the inside.
>>135343873
As long as I get more Atem/Kaiba/Jonouchi asspull goodness I'm all for it.
>ENEMII CONTOROORAA 2016 version
>>135344029
>You must be either rich
And what the fuck do you think Kaiba was then?
>>135343992
>You could win in the weirdest ways if you had a brain
And your opponent didn't.
If both players have equal ability to make up bullshit the one with stronger cards still comes out ahead in most situations.
Is that new movie with Yugi/Yami and Kaiba out yet?
>>135343992
http://imgur.com/a/lqcPe?gallery
>>135344109
>4kids card
>>135344249
>this desperate to have something to comeback with and feel like a smartass after reading a post wrong
>>135344109
Aside from change of heart all those cards are carp.
>>135343992
the game was a lot more interesting that way imo
>>135339024
He meant that he never played the game in his life, had no idea what the rules were and was making up bullshit as he went along. You can't fuse your magic spell with a monster. You can't shoot your magic spell infused monster into your opponents monster. You can't fuse your magic spell infused monster with your opponents monster. Yugi was, as always, cheating.
>>135344392
>red eyes, ultimate moth, that sea serpent thing, that puppet thing, that elephant thing, probably more I can't remember or read the attack of
And even the ones that aren't above 2000 attack are mostly better than some of the tiny shits he ran in his deck.
Plus I don't know if you know but yugioh cards aren't 6 inches thick. Each of those cards is just the top of a stack of probably like 200 cards.
Christ why are people desperate to defend this plothole.
>>135344109
Yeah,so? Kaiba had his deck full of strong monsters.His only weak monster was the clown he used to trigger the crush card.
>>135344160
Yugi won against Weevil by destroying his terrain,despite Weevil having a 3500 atk moth.
>>135344458
You also can't fuse anything with your opponent's monsters at all with Polymerization.
Super Poly, now that's a different case but only Judai has that card.
THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC8qXo2CnmU
>>135339024
That's possible.
The Mammoth is a zombie and the arrow allows him to tribute a monster his opponent controls, then he fuses them to a zombie dragon that has the requirements of zombie+dragon.I have no idea if I remember this correctly
>>135344878
Goddamn, those lyrics so upper middle class early 2000s suburban kid.
>>135344878
>How could my only friends are the ones I PAYY
my sides
>>135344878
damn he fuckin rich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsOndG_JgZM&index=5&list=PL4BE209DF75AAF47F
This was Album of the Year 2002. Fucking fight me.
As a kid I loathed Yugi an co for being portayed in a good light despite being totally cheaters, the only way that hack writer Kaz could make them look better was make the opponents even more of a cheaters.
>>135346013
Pegasus theme is as gay and unsettling as Pegasus himself. It's perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUW_pip1J5g
>No, you can't!
>I JUST DID
What did he mean by this?
>>135343274
BLS and DMOC have more attack than anything besides Blue-Eyes. BLS even ties it at 3000.
Same deal for stuff like Gaia the Dragon Champion. The extra hundred it has over 2500 matters.
MOU YAMETE
>>135347776
HANASE
So, can someone tell me in which season/episode do they actually start playing according to the rules?
With my Catapult Turtle, I can launch my Dragon Champion towards your castle thereby shattering its floatation ring and causing it to collapse on top of your monsters! Go, Catapult Turtle!
>>135347859
Battle CitySort of
>>135347859
Battle City, they just had the life points halfed to 4000
>>135347912
So the God cards aren't OP? They don't negate traps and spells? I remember seeing the Sky Dragon card IRL and it's attack was just XXXX with no effect. IIRC wasn't SkKy Dragon's attack based on the number of cards in your hand? The card I saw had no effect like that. How did the God's work in the actual card game?
>>135347984
They only negate traps and spells directed at them. Although, in the anime, they negate traps and spells altogether, so technically what Kaiba did was legal.
>>135347984
What you saw is the illegal version of Slifer. The legal version does have effects, the first one being that its attack is equal to the number of cards in your hand*1000, and the second one being that every monster your opponent summons in face-up attack position has its atk reduced by 2000, and is destroyed if its atk becomes 0 become of this.
I thought i was too young too dumb to understand the rules when i watched YGO 5-6 years ago. Now i feel relieved im not
>>135348183
>5/6 years ago
HANASE
>>135348183
>too young
>5-6 years ago
reported, enjoy your ban
ABSOLUTUH POWAH FOHHHHHHCE
DURO MONSUTA KAADO
>>135339392
So the author is a black sympathizer, add to that Yugi fight this battle when his outer appearance was still white, meaning a black guy disguised as a white man.
I guess this card game will get banned in the U.S once the new president enters the office.
>>135343873
>Who else is excited for the eventual Duel Monsters remake
Hah! Like that'll ever happen. All we'll get is that terrible "remaster" and we should think ourselves lucky that we have that..
>>135344000
>Still had the shitty Battle Ox in his deck
If he could afford every card possible why didn't he fill his deck with at least all ATK 2000+ monsters? It's not that hard.
>>135351073
Because Takahashi didn't really think it through
>>135347912
That is actually one of Obelisk's abilities tho
So what is the most disastrous plothole in Takahashi's earlier card game?
>You can't your opponent attack directly. It means if they has a bad hand, they can just refuse to summon any monster and wait until they draw a strong monster
>Duelists don't shuffle their decks, they can place cards in any order they want
>They fill their decks with low level monsters even though they don't need sacrifices to summon strong ones
Did I miss anything?
Were you allowed to attack your opponent directly in the DK arc? I don't remember any direct attacks ever being mentioned there. I figured it could only happen if you had no monsters to defend you at the start of the battle phase?
>>135351491
No, they weren't.
It was never said how people were supposed to deplete the opponent's LP if he didn't set up any monsters or only in defense position. Or how they could lose, or win, or whatever. Duelist Kingdom is a mess of rules.
>this will never be real
Why live
>>135351658
You could use http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Defense_Paralysis if the opponent played defense mode, but attacking directly rule is a mess. I mean, why during the first freaking episode, even if Atem didn't draw exodia final piece, he could have just not played another monster until he eventually drew it.
>>135351658
What's so special about this card?
Remember that time when Kaiba wanted to commit suicide over losing a children's card game
>>135351967
Well, it was either he gets desperate or being a failure who couldn't even get to try to save his brother. Shit's heavy, yo.
>>135351434
>>You can't your opponent attack directly. It means if they has a bad hand, they can just refuse to summon any monster and wait until they draw a strong monster
I assumed if they didn't have any monsters or summon any that turn then they would lose.
Remember the duel against Bandit Keith and how magic attacks somehow didn't work on his machine monsters?
>>135351967
remember when Kaiba openly cheated in season 0 by putting Sugoroku's Blue Eyes White Dragon on top of his deck in the middle of the duel?
Remember when he tortured Yugi's grandpa and didn't even give a shit about Mokuba to the point of inflicting a penalty game on him?
Kaiba was the definition of an Edgelord
>>135352105
the
best
>>135339392
It's true.
>>135339370
The whole fire>water>lightning shit in the games was the worst thing IMO.
>>135352067
Then it would mean if any player had more than 5 spell/trap cards in his deck, he could lose in turn 1.
>>135352187
>the the ocean
>>135351967
Why didn't he change the damn dragon to defense mode?
>>135352369
For the same reason Joey keeps attacking a monster with higher attack here
Because everyone in this series is a fucking retard.
>>135343837
Probably because 3,000 years with Zorc and no memories.
>>135351491
I believe that you were allowed to attack the opponents life points if they didn't play a creature for their turn(which basically never happens)
>>135352415
I sort of always thought that players werent actually able to see the attack and defense of the monsters being played unless you knew what the card did beforehand. same for spell cards, which is why yugi runs into mirror wall later on. which also explains why the shittier joey doesnt know any basic monsters
>>135352670
I remember in the battle city arc they added direct attacking to the advanced rules list as an additional new rule, it means before they literally had no way to deplete an opponent's LP if they summoned no monster.
>>135352785
Makes sense, but it didn't explain why after his Swamp Battleguard whose ATK was 1800 was destroyed, he kept on attacking with even lower ATK monsters. I mean Rock Ogre with 800 ATK, seriously?
>>135351920
Not a real card, it's doggie from Dark Souls.
>>135352740
Shit, I mean >>135353018 for >>135352740.
>>135343837
I remember reading the manga as a child and I was confused as fuck. Not just because I read if the wrong way but because there were no card games and people died and shit.
>>135341792
What's that card that destroys all monsters with less than 1500 attack in someone's deck and hand? dark clown or whatever. Shit's OP.
>>135339370
You shut your filthy whore mouth about Forbidden Memories.
>>135339392
I literally think this is how SJW decide what theyre gonna "fight" for.
They read some silly shit that was jokingly wrote on 4chan and taken seriously somewhere else.
Stop being witty the dumb part of society can't handle it anon.
>>135347901
This was the dumbest shit.
>>135343604
He's still the third best duelist as of GX.
>>135353356
Pretty sure some guys on 4chan decided to try and get SJWs to actually believe that mistletoe is somehow a form of oppression by the patriarchy.
They ate it up
>>135353261
Crush Card kills 1500 or more. Deck Devastation Virus kills 1500 or less. Crush Card got errata'd, no one uses it anymore.
>>135353261
The card Kaiba used? It's yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Crush_Card_Virus and it destroyed monster with 1500 or more ATK though.
The funniest thing is if this card remains it's manga effect in real life game, many decks will have an instant win if the opponent uses it on them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP_EGSOEGAE
>>135353635
>Crush Card
Thought Burning Abyss still has this shit?
>>135353715
Okay, almost no one. I mean it's not as strong that people would go into Rhapsody just to use it.
BUT WHAT DOES POT OF GREED DO?
>>135353901
Get itself banned for being too OP.
>>135353901
It kills the jews
Why was Summoned Skull so broken? I used it all the time back in the days and it always won me the games.
>>135354007
2500 atk for one tribute
great maju garzett was better though
>>135354048
You can make it 8000 atk easily these days, it's still shit.
>>135352105
>remember when Kaiba openly cheated in season 0 by putting Sugoroku's Blue Eyes White Dragon on top of his deck in the middle of the duel?
It was kind of different.
Before the Exodia duel, Kaiba dueled Yugi, stole his blue eyes and then stacked it on the top of his deck while he wasn't watching. He summoned it,but the dragon just dissolved,because being it a shadow game, it could tell that the Blue dragon wasn't kaiba's because of some soul link or whatever. So kaiba lost and got tortured with Egyptian magic.
He actually didn't cheat against Yugi's grandpa and just steamrolled him with three dragons. The funny part is that he recreated the very same torture Yugi inflicted to him before, using Kaibacorp's holograms, and tortured granpa with it,nearly killing him.
In a stadium.
In front of a fucking cheering crowd of childrens.
>>135353918
How's "draw two cards" overpowered in a game? In Hearthstone and Magic it would be a helpful, but pretty average card.
Still the best troll card in the game.
>>135354075
>was
>>135354108
If you have the right cards,you can win in a single turn.
>>135354108
Everyone would always run 3 of those cards.
>>135354108
card advantage creates more card advantage
>>135354108
Hand advantage is the most important resource in Yugioh. Some decks these days can go +6 without breaking a sweat, but with pot of greed you can use it instantaneously in every deck that exists.
>>135339024
in the manga the cards effect was "using magic cards on your opponents field" so he could use poly on his monsters
>>135354125
l can't believe I used to know how to play this shit
it's like arabic to me now
>>135339370
>Beat the meadow mage 300 times
>>135354207
basically this card increases the ATK of a light monster that attacks or is attacked by the ATK of the opposing monster
>>135354207
Nah b, Arabic is a simple language compared to the shit they squeeze into these card descriptions.
>>135354108
Due to game mechanics. YGO favors draw power a lot. The one who draws their strategy sooner will have greater chances to win and most modern decks can really make a strong comeback with one or two cards. Pot of Greed allows you to get those two for free which is utterly powerful in the current meta game, you're rewarded two cards at the simple cost of the card you played without any other penalty or condition as you can play PoG at almost any time during your turn. Most draw power cards nowadays have strict conditions, restrictions or after-use consequences so they can't be used so freely.
In my opinion Graceful Charity is even stronger but that's more of a combo card so I understand they consider PoG the most poorly designed YGO card of the game.
>>135354108
Did I hear overpowered?
There needs to be a decent well polished online official Yugioh game. It's fucking mind boggling how there isn't. Yet we have fucking hearthstone? Get your shit together Konami
>>135354308
Partly correct. Pot of Greed lets yo get two for one, not two for free. Graceful Charity is a 0 but you can plus off the discarded card.
Yugioh OCG and soon TCG is a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors 90% of the time. Anyone who goes first will win because every meta deck has access to either incredible negation effects turn one or ruining their opponent's plays in some other way.
This ties into why draw power is so important. As a general rule the only real turn-based restriction on each player is that you get 1 normal summon per turn. There are cards that side-step this but unlike many other games Yugioh has no mana restrictions. The number of cards you can play in any one turn is limitless, you can run through your entire deck because you're not tapping into any resource to actually play cards.
>>135354412
Konami are jews,last online game I saw by them you had to pay for literally everything.
>>135354406
Is that really broken though? Just don't summon anything until you can pop it, your opponent can't attack you anyway.
>>135354108
Why don't you look up a magic card named "gush". That card is banned in legacy. It even has more downsides than pot of greed, or bill from Pokemon did
>>135354453
It's now significantly less broken,but back in the day ,you played it and you won. Let's not talk about shit like Yata-garasu or Makyura which had the creators probably on drugs the whole time.
If Yugi's cards still have their bullshit effects, can he win against modern metas?
>>135354406
I don't understand why is this piece of shit still banned, it has literally no protection against non-battle removal, doesn't have the battle damage sharing effect like vanilla Relinquished, and then non-targeting, non-destruction removal is restricted to once per turn, and only one at a time.
On top of that it also cockblocks your monsters from doing shit.
It's one of those cards that make you ask "why"
Like fucking Grand Mole, why is that still limited?
>>135353901
IT ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS TO REFRESH MY HAND
NOW IS THE TIME TO ACTIVATE MY DECKMASTER'S SPECIAL ABILITY
>>135354541
what's so broken about makyura?
>>135354543
How can you compare anime logic with the current meta? Yugi's strategies were broken because the game was broken itself and the only limit was set by his imagination.
>>135354586
Being able to play trap cards from your hand is pretty broken, m8
>>135354586
The point of Trap Cards is to take one turn to charge up. When Makyura hits the grave, they either become Quick-Play Spells or Traps already "primed" from your hand.
>>135339024
>Egyptian
>White
Japan fucking up facts about other civilizations yet again
>>135354617
is having to place traps on the field such a big deal?
>>135354570
Because it is a level 1 fusion monster. You can easily summon it with just 1 Instant Fusion and keep one revive it again and again with Kinka-byo, adds to that it's non-destruction and non-targeted, which let you remove almost everything.
>>135354586
>makyura
You know all those trap cards that let you just draw a card buy at the cost of having to wait a round?
Well now you don't have to wait to activate them. Activate it from hand. Draw another draw-trap. Activate that. Cycle through your entire deck.
Exodia. I win.
Pro tip: half the cards are the on the bann list because they can be used in some combo to win with exodia. Exodia probably represents the single worst designed card in the history of card games. The card is never ever meta but controls the entire ban list. Everyone hates playing against it but won't just accept it should be banned because the TV show turned it into part of the game's culture. Mechanically exodia takes take zero skill, have no ways to counter play them, and win or fail entirely based on whether the exodia pieces and better draw cards where shuffled to be on top or bottem of the deck.
>>135354684
Yes, because it takes 1 turn before you can activate them.
The original reason was the Exchange of Spirit OTK, where you combo'd cards to get 15 into your graveyard and then played Exchange of Spirit from your hand thanks to Makyura to switch decks with graveyards. Your opponent hasn't gone yet so they have no graveyard. When they go to draw that turn, they auto-lose.
>>135354698
Instant Fusion is more of a problem card than TER.
Instant Infinity or Norden plays is stupid.
>>135354657
>>135354735
>>135354758
I see, that makes sense
>>135354735
It baffles me how such a degenerate card like Royal Magical Library is still fucking unlimited.
And Exodia decks aren't the only ones that use that piece of shit.
Honest is still great because most boss monsters these days are immune to card effects but Honest just makes your monster stronger than theirs and they can't cancel that.
>>135352344
>the the the the thethethethethe ocean
I think it's funny how a lot of basic 1st gen cards like change of heart, black hole, monster reborn, etc. stay banned despite the insane power creep
>>135354668
He's in the body of a Jap kid. When he goes back to his original body he's brown.
>>135354953
>tfw you once lost when your FGD got Honest'd
before I realized it, I was Trueman already
>>135355025
>brown
Still wrong, Yami should be pure black like the original Egyptians were
>>135355059
>inb4 /pol/tards post le ebin WE WUZ meme
>>135355059
He was an Egyptian king, not slave.
>>135355059
You're nitpicking how hard now?
>>135355112
they were kings and stuff though
>>135354735
You mean
>Legacy of Yata-garasu
>Jar of greed
>Reckless greed
That's only 3, how to create an exodia deck with just that?
>>135355004
Dark Hole is at 2 now, Raigeki is at 1. Monster removal means much less now that monsters can be revived (Pendulums) or are flat out immune to destruction (Majespecters), or you plus from their destruction (Burning Abyss).
Change of Heart bypasses destruction and allows a powerful monster to be stolen without cost. Even the 1 turn limit can be bypassed by tributing the monster or using it as a material. It's still banned, and change control cards are more restricted now.
Monster Reborn is banned because not only can you costlessly revive any monster you have, you can plunder your opponent's grave for powerful monsters as well. It is limited in Japan though.
For all that new cards allow more powerful combos, the bread and butter cards of any deck are all from the first years of the game, or have more powerful banned equivalents from that time (like Solemns).
>>135355112
Weren't they all pitch black?
>>135344526
What plot hole?
>>135355226
Nubians, yeah.
>>135355184
>Skill Drain will never be back at 3
Fuck Qli
>>135355004
>change of heart
Non-targeting removal.
Also chances are you're gonna OTK on that turn after activating it.
>Black Hole
Semi-limited.
Everything fucking floats into something or is immune to effect destruction so, just like Raigeki, not as good as it used to be. Can still sack like a motherfucker though.
>Monster Reborn
On its own? Not too good.
Combined with the above? Fucking sacky as shit.
>>135355184
>and change control cards are more restricted now.
Well, except Creature Swap, that's still a motherfucker.
> It is limited in Japan though.
While Premature Burial is banned since you can just bounce it back to your hand and keep reviving things.
>>135354735
Exodia was pretty worthless back when everyone had the same cookie cutter chaos control. Confiscation, delinquent duo, don zaloogs, spirit reaper, and chaos emperor dragon.
I remember the magical scientist first turn kill being more infamous. Then the Last Turn with Wall of Revealing Light and Jowgen Spiritualist getting popular, then banned.
Exodus is like destiny board. Way too slow and situational
>>135354838
Because you are an idiot. Royal magical library is an incredible shitty card objectively. Unless you win that turn, you are fucked and lose the duel. You have a monster with 0 attack playing a deck with no trap protection. If you go second you will most likely be stopped but if you go first you can win.
The card get neutered by effect veiler or ghost ogre and then what? You are defenseless and have no ways to combat your opponent who now can prepare for your next turn.
>>135355169
Good Goblin Housekeeping can allow you do draw 12 cards at once depending on how you play it, and then you only have to return 3 to the deck.
>>135354668
0/10
>>135344244
nice dubs
nice post
love
I always felt like Yugioh peaked just before sychros hit
I don't understand the xyz shit and fuck the pendulums
>>135355630
>Back in my day...
>>135354838
Library is shit,it's the endymion citadel that basically gives you fucking unlimited magic counters in the right deck.
>>135355630
I always thought that Yugioh peaked at chapter 1.
I'm not even trolling
>>135354953
>implying that most boss monsters aren't immune to battle as well
>>135353901
WHAT ABOUT 2 POTS OF GREED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp4fxe75810
>>135355797
Endymion doesn't do shit anymore now that you can't activate its destruction effect by just placing one on top of another.
>>135355630
Xyz are a braindead mechanic and Pendulums are only bad because they enable Xyzs
>>135355865
MASAKA
>>135355826
This is why I hate YGO games. AI always ignores the ban list while you're restricted to it.
Except WC2004. Oddly, all the AI follows the banlist and you have the ability to turn it off for yourself.
>>135355816
It peaked at shit art and pure edge?
>>135355822
You can still take 3000+ damage.
>>135355826
This never gets old
>>135343812
You can't just stack your deck with powerful monsters, you have to cherish them all for their individuality. People who care about powerful cards won't have good relationships with them.
>>135339392
>Original Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl were black
>They got changed to a white man and an aryan girl
Stop whitewashing history, Pegasus
>>135346097
Wow, that's super gay theme, I'd say Blue Eyed Gay level
>>135355826
Friendly reminder that if you're too lazy to learn new summoning methods you can just play Kozmo and braindead your way into rushdowning every game.
>>135339392
My sides
>>135344878
Damn why did I have to click this. It completely ruined my memories of the German dub now that I know that Kaiba shares the same VA as Bazinga.
>>135353581
>third best
As in he's still a loser.
>>135355630
Goat Control format is Yugioh's peak. It's not even debatable.
>>135351491
In the manga it was mentioned that if a player can't summon a single monster in they turn, they lose instantly. Which makes sense as the opponent could deplete their life points with just one direct attack.
>>135356789
I think it may just couldn't play a card and it specify in Kingdom whether or not it had to be a monster card
>>135356176
Shut the fuck up Yusei
>>135350947
>DM movie sells 88,000 preorder tickets in first 2 days
>More than any other Toei distributed movie in HISTORY including titles like OP and DBZ
>Millennium Box and Millennium Pack still ranking in the top 10 trading card game products on Amazon
It can definitely be a reality if Konami wants it to be.
>>135356913
SYNCHRO SHOKAN
>>135356738
Can't have anyone being better than Yugi and Kaiba.
>>135356962
>>DM movie sells 88,000 preorder tickets in first 2 days
I wonder how many of those are just one guy purchasing 3 tickets though
>>135355630
Nothing worse than a nostalgiafag who actually believes the drivel he types up. The game is infinitely more better now then it was back in those days where broken card mechanics were exploited and Konami had their thumb up their own ass with their slow ban lists.
Give me Yugioh today over pre 2008 any day of the week.
>>135355630
GX era was an awful era full of awful underpowered cards, probably the most boring era in all of yugioh with a majority of the worst sets ever printed. Only the last two-three sets, Phantom Darkness, Light of Destruction and Glads Assault, had good cards, but they were degenerate shit. Then synchros came at the start of Duelist Genesis and created the most disgustingly expensive meta in all of yugioh with teledad being $1000+ and you either played it or lost.
Synchro era was comparatively gay (x-sabers with rescue cat and six sams were stupid) but the decks were more fun and varied. HEAVY COMBOS everywhere.
Xyz era was fucking garbage. Not only was the anime terrible, but so was the meta. It went from Dino-rabbit/Wind-up Loop/Inzektor horseshit to mermail format to fucking D R A G O N S and after a year of D R A G O N S was a shit format of neutered decks until DUEA came along and killed everything.
The Arc-V era was a golden age of almost every summon type being viable with each having a powerful meta option and several tier 2 fun petdeck options, though konami decided to kill all of that and usher forth a pendulum abomination called Pepe which has a power level so retarded it puts D R A G O N S to shame. However Arc-V era also brought us a shitload of nostalgia support, old card support, and other fun stuff which creates a massively diverse tier 2 meta underneath it all. Like you can play almost fucking anything you want and have it stand a chance against the meta.
>>135357296
Wait until mid February for the banlist to completely neauter Pepe. Konami will introduce the set in January, wait a month to get all the money and then slice it to bits or at least make it a lot less powerful. Then the tier 1 decks will be a lot more balanced and fun.
Ban or Limit
Damage Juggler
Flame Mascot
Wavering Eyes
Insight Magician
Monkeyboard
Agreed with a bunch of tier 2 being decently competitive. I love the new Blue Eyes support they are doing and how they are trying to make older archtypes like Buster Blader decent but they still have a way to go.
>>135357167
>more better
You're an idiot.
The mechanics now are more exploited than ever. Every thing is designed to make money. As people have mentioned, the top cards from '08, with few exception, are nothing compared to the combos out right now. Keep upping the ante so that people need to buy boxes of every new set to be competitive.
Konami has been releasing $100+ dollar staples that must be run in 3s in every meta deck. This first happened around Charge of the Light Brigade to Tour Guide from the Underworld. Though even they were preceded by shit like Card Trooper and D-draw which were more pricey than any other staple. Then they get banned 1 or 2 formats later and a new equivalent gets released. Pre-2008, the most expensive card in any deck could run you $25. Il Blud brought about the $200+ staple. Idiot mutant manchild yu-gi-oh card 'dealers' trying to make a living off of this cardboard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMGkNqo41cA
At the end of the day, it's a CHILDREN'S cardgame.
>mfw toons finally got support
Still shit but I don't care,that's beautiful
>>135357648
Luster Pendulum needs to be at 1 and either the Wizard or the Joker performapal will get hit.
>>135357296
>you can play almost fucking anything you want and have it stand a chance against the meta
IF you go first. If you go second against Performals, you lose.
>>135357673
So you are bitching about price. Fuck off you poorfag and stop being a bum. If you want to play competitively the best decks then you can pay up otherwise stfu and play casually. No one is forcing you to play these cards and so stop babbling like a retard.
The game is much better now and more diverse then it was ever was, especially before 2008. The only reason you are ever bitching is because you have your nostalgia glasses on too tight to tight to think straight. Fuck off and jerk off to your shitty cards of the past.
>>135357905
>Literally defending p2w
>>135357818
Luster pendulum is fine and doesn't need to be touched. But they could always errata it.
>>135355950
The game you're responding to, Legacy of the Duelist, only ignores the banlist in story mode. And they'll only use banned cards if they used them on the show and were legal back then, thus only the DM story mode really uses banned cards to compensate for how terrible most of those decks are.
A.I. oponents in all other modes have to follow the banlist
>>135357818
>IF you go first. If you go second against Performals, you lose.
On the other hand, since you're more likely than not playing a onetrick pony OTK deck, if you go first, you'll have a pathethic board (assuming you even bother getting something out) with little to no protection ready to get OTK'd on your opponent's first turn.
>>135357296
>Synchro era was comparatively gay
Post teleDAD and pre six sams was the sweet spot, easily the most fun I had with the game.
>Blackwings
>Infernities
>Frognarch
>Gravekeeper
>DandySynchron
>Lightsworn
>Scraps
I cant for the life of me remember if Dragunity was at the same time as Six Sam but I think the structure deck was a month or so before it.
>>135357296
>GX era was an awful era full of underpowered cards, probably the most boring era in all of yugioh
For the most part I agree, but that era did give me Raiza and that will forever be a good thing to me. Troop Dupe Scoop was also silly.
>Arc-V era also brought us a shitload of nostalgia support, old card support, and other fun stuff which creates a massively diverse tier 2 meta underneath it all.
This is the reason why I like the current format, aside from PePe. I've been having a surprising amount of fun when Im not playing with or against PePe. Looking forward to Monarchs in January.MAI HUSBANDO
>>135357905
I have no interest in playing anymore and would never spend 100-200 dollars on a Yugioh card. I played competitively from Invasion of Chaos up until Perfect Circle Monarchs were hit on the ban-list, when I was a kid. Many decks were being played at regional level and beyond including six sams, perfect circle monarch, other monarch variants, the TeamOverdose Marco-cosmos/D.D. based removal deck, Diamond Dude Turbo, Gladiator Beasts, Gadgets, Big City, Early Dark Armed Dragon decks. And '08 was still a time where you could make a toolbox deck without being tied down to a specific archetype and TOP with it. Like Yannick Dubeau did at w/e JUMP it was.
The number of archetypes you CAN play is larger because more sets and cards have been released. But it's not different than any other meta. There's 5-6 decks that you will run into in 90% of your matches and a few wildcards along the way. In this meta coming up it will be even less than 5-6 because performals will be a larger percentage, while they're still legal. The only difference now is you're paying $1000+ to play those meta decks whereas before you were paying $300-$400. Why the fuck would I waste my hard earned money lol?
Did anyone here play that PS1 YGO game which also had it's own set of totally different made up rules and was fucking impossible for no good reason.
>>135358413
Why are you even telling me this? You don't want to pay up then fuck off.
It is that simple.
>Why the fuck would I waste my hard earned money lol?
Then go waste your hard earned money on another hobby and quit your incessant babbling.
>>135358413
>$1000 for current meta decks
lol?
shit like DDturbo was only good with 3 stratos, gadgets and big city were awful, glad beasts were expensive and Dark Armed was still ridiculously expensive because if you didn't have $300 crush card and they did you lost. And if you weren't playing a meta deck every pet deck was god awful.
>tfw pendulums finally made madolches viable
now I can finally play my waifu deck
>>135358566
Sadly I did, back at the release. Didn't help that it was my first YGO game and I was just 11 years old. Fucking Heishin. I could manage to reach the second battle against him in the labyrinth, but I could never beat him.
>>135354108
There is literally no reason to not run Pot of Greed if it was unbanned.
>>135358739
>>>$1000 for current meta decks
>lol?
Kozmo hit up like $900 at its peak just now.
But little did those suckers know that their deck was actually shit.
>>135358566
Retrained Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon WHEN
>>135353581
>Says Pegasus
I don't think he'd ever beat Pegasus. He also lost against that pink-haired guy in 5th season. Considering the GX characters, I'd say he'd lose against Jaden, and probably Aster and that Crystal Beast guy.
>>135355630
This. The game should split into classic and current. Classic being everything before 2009, when synchro monsters came
>>135358967
Pegasus says the best duelists in the world are Yugi, Kaiba, Jonouchi and Johan (Crystal Beasts guy) in that order.
I mean obviously he's full of shit though, seeing how Judai beats Johan without trying too hard and later Ryo almost beats him too, but he did say that.
>>135358965
Kozmo was just 3 farmgirls and 3 destroyers, which just broke $600. Though anyone who was fucking retarded enough to buy them at that peak price in a format where we don't even have a big official event to gauge the actual best deck is fucking retarded
Cards that should not be banned
Witch of the Black Forest
Thousand Eyes Restrict
Both cards are not that good and are ridiculous to think they are still in the banlist.
>>135354108
Every other answer here seems pretty retarded, the real answer is simple. In Hearthstone you have to play a card and pay mana to use it, for example Arcane Intellect is draw 2 for 3 mana, which means after you use it you have 3 less mana to use spells or minions. Magic is similar, you have to tap lands and pay the cost to use a spell that draws you cards.
Yugioh has no casting cost. If you had no card limits, you could just have every card be a pot of greed or exodia for an instant win every game, because nothing stops you from just casting Pot of Greed after Pot of Greed every turn. Even in the normal game, Pot of Greed is crazy OP because it makes the deck smaller (increasing chances to get combos) while increasing your hand size (letting you do more instantly for free).
>>135358965
Kozmo won a national BR tournament just this month.
>>135359267
>BR
Oh wow, like anyone gives a shit.
>>135359129
Thousand Eyes Restrict turns Instant Fusion into a Change of Heart. No fucking way.
Sangan and WotBF should be unbanned though. They're way too slow in today's meta.
>>135358860
Same. I basically ended up dying loads after being transported to the future, then I had this one day amazing run where I managed to somehow get all the way through Kaiba's tournament and beat everyone and got sent back to the past, only to start constantly losing again.
>>135359314
I wouldn't pay for them IRL but I haven't lost with them once in YGOPro.
>>135357296
Does that mean my favourite card is viable now?
>>135359047
But that's just his opinion, probably based on the fact that those guys participated in the tournaments most (and the fact that he knows the first 3 personally), while Ryo was dumped when he lost against Phoenix and Jaden has never dueled professionally. Obviously the GX era characters have better decks since that's when the game stopped being slow as fuck. Yugi would still beat them since
>he can draw any card he wants
>>135354108
Pot of greed alone isnt op. Pot of greed itself doesnt end games on its own. I just think people who say its the most broken card ever made are morons. If pot of greed were unbanned yugioh would not blow up. A deck with 40 pot of greeds would never win a game.
>>135359712
what about a deck of 35 Pot of greeds
