Is this true?
Sounds like something made by a pretentious faggot who only watches deep mature movies for deep mature people such as himself
Switch Evangelion with GiTS, First Broly was actually good, its sequels are shit.
>>135256836
Was not EVA appealing to the soul while GITS appealed to intellect?
>Cinema
K-On movie
>Film
Disappearance
>Movie
Love Live movie
>Flick
Kyoukai no Kanata movie
>>135256856
To the heart you mean. But wasn't Mononoke appealing to the heart as well?
>>135256887
Studio Ghibli is just a Japanese Disney
>>135256772
This chart is dumb.
>>135256937
But that chart makes no sense then, or at least you argument didn't?Appeal to the heart? Lion King and Clannad also appealed to the heart, does that make them cinema too?
>>135256772
what is the "kino" of anime?
>>135257231
Angel's Egg
>>135257231
Absolute kinography right here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtwCd7SJaa8
/tv/ is the most reddit board on this site
>>135257362
Coincidently it's also the board that most often will use the word reddit as an insult.
>>135256772
No, three of those are the same thing and the 4th is where you can go and watch one.
>>135256772
those words are all synonyms to be used in different scenarios to refer to the same things
Also that is one of the most pretentious images I've seen on 4chan
>>135256772
Oh look
This /tv/ meme made its way here
>>135256772
What?
>>135256772
It's true bait.
Cinema: Patlabor 2
Film: Kara no Kyoukai 5
Movie: Umasou
Flick: insert modern kyoani movies here
>>135256772
Back to /tv/ with you
This is truly one of the worst memes /tv/ spawned this year.
I am an avid CINEMA fan. I like to watch CINEMA on my computer. The last CINEMA that I saw was eve angel lion. What are your favorite CINEMAS? Please don't post things that aren't CINEMAS.
>>135256772
Yeah I completely agree with these arbitrary definitions for synonyms
>>135257187
Lion King's not Japanese and CLANNAD isn't a feature length production
Cinema is where you go to watch the latest action flick movie on film.
/tv/ memes are usually ok, but this isn't one of them
>>135256772
that shit again, /tv/?
>>135256818
Sounds like someone's a mad DBZ manchild
>>135256772
>>135256772
>Cinema
A feature shown at the cinema.
>Film
A series of sequential imagery recorded on film. Or in modern times digital media.
>Movie
A series of sequential imagery shown as moving pictures.
>Flick
Referring to the flicker from projecting the sequential imagery itself.
It's almost as if it's all referring to the same damn thing.
![Collegiate_Thesaurus[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bEr4sOJ.jpg "Collegiate_Thesaurus[1].jpg")
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>>135256885
This
>>135262740
Ok, I have a question. Is Ideon really that good, at least the movie?
I've watched about 10 episodes of the show and it sucks balls. Does it suddenly get better later on or something?
>>135256772
Aren't they all the same thing?
>>135262837
Underrated post.
>>135257362
Why the fuck does /tv/ even need to exist in the first place?
All they do is just force memes.
>>135264385
Where else would you contain Star Wars, MCU, Game of Thrones and all other related faggotry?
>>135264154
It's not pretty good and people only care about it because of the last like 3 episodes.
>>135264154
When I first started watching Ideon I thought it was nothing special but as the series went on and on I enjoyed it a lot more and more and by the end I thought it was a legitimately great show. I don't know if you'll love it by the end if you hated it at first, but I think most people would agree that it gets better as it goes on. Try to watch at least until episode 14, episode 14 was my all time favorite and if you don't enjoy it you probably won't enjoy the rest of the series.
That being said, the sequel movie (Be Invoked) is actually the sequel to the recap movie, not to the TV series. The recap movie changes some things, and Be Invoked follows the recap movie continuity, not the TV series continuity.
But what makes Be Invoked so great is the characters, and if you've only seen the recap movie, which crams like 30 episodes worth of content into 90 minutes, you won't really appreciate it. Seeing the characters progress and struggle through all those episodes is what makes the movie as the culmination of their story so great. So ideally, before watching Be Invoked you should watch both the TV series and the recap movie.
>>135256818
Well it's an edited version of a /tv/ pic, so you're not wrong.
>>135264530
Reddit?
>>135256885
I like KyoAni too, but KnK movie is so bad that I wouldn't even put it into the flick category
>>135265392
>what plebs say:101
>>135264385
moot liked the board. And also sometimes there's good discussion. If people doesn't know to use filters that's their problem
>>135257362
Oh the irony in this post
>>135256818
why do you watch pedo shit?
>>135259995
Dunno dude Coppola believed there was a difference and tarkovsky also did with sculping time
>>135256772
GiTS is probably the most overrated thing anime has produced.
Perfect blue is probably the best anime movie.
>>135266928
Cry harder fag, using /tv/'s definition, all anime are "flicks".
>>135256772
As ironic and memeic this picture is, it's actually true.
>>135267111
not even best kon
also ghost in the shell (1) is deservedly highly rated
>>135256772
Film is just a word used by fucking hipsters to make their entertainment sound more refined and classy. Fucking faggots.
>>135267138
So you agree?
>>135267199
People like keifer sutherland spends most of his time drinking with people like skin diamond and he believes there's a difference
>>135267111
What a fucking faggot you are. Both are great movies. No reason to hate one or the other, but GITS movie is more popular, so you're acting like some kind of autistic kid who must hate everything that he doesn't understand or what other people like but he doesn't.
>cinema
good, no memes
>film
good, can make memes from it
>movie
bad, can make memes from it
>flick
bad, no memes
>watched the Interstellar film last night
>mfw it was better than 99% of anime
Thanks /tv/
>>135267429
You should watch salvador
Really good stuff
>Cinema
Madoka
>Film
Another
>Movie
Code Geass
>Flick
Dragon Ball Z
>Kino
Death Parade
Everyone agree?
>>135256772
Cinema is a synonym for movie theater, not the actual movie itself. I usually think the others refer to their lengths more then their quality (i.e. films are longer than movies which are longer than flicks).
>>135256772
Please keep your cancerous /tv/ memes in your board
Thanks
>>135267469
>Flick: DBZ
Wew lad, don't put boring normalshit DBZ in the same tier as fun obscure bad action movies from the 80's.
If anything it's Star Wars because you're not allowed to dislike it/will get weird looks for disliking it.
>>135256856
Is not your mouth appealing to random dicks while your ass appeals to random dicks?
>>135267429
>shitty flick is better than 99% of anime
Like poetry
>>135256772
I need to leave this place asap.
>>135267729
it's just summerfags on winter break
I think for clarity in the future, we should refer to all moving images of feature length with a synchronized audio track as "cinema-film-movie-flick" in order to avoid any confusion.
>>135267791
I think it would be best to use "film" with the Irish pronunciation.
>movie I pretend to like to impress my friends
>movie I like
>movie I like but pretend to hate
>>135264385
No, all they do is banepost, fawn over 12-year-old celebs and fap to feet. Occasionally they complain about reddit and help enforce random memes such as tee bee eich shake my head family.
>>135267777
Quads confirm.
what the dickens is "absolute kinography"
It's very much like 4chan to give synonyms different meanings. Autism was never a meme.
>>135268297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsp05iSk7s
The distinction between cinema, film, movies, and flicks is nonexistant.
/tv/'s epic memes really make shit like baneposting look like god's gift to mankind.
>ČīŅëmĀ
Gundam: G no Reconguista
>Fīļm
Aldnoah.Zero
>Moviē
Neon Genesis Evangelion
>Flick
Ghost in the Shell (1995)
>/a/ complains about /tv/ memes
>when all /a/ produced this years was shit like Umaru posting, DB laser shit and Madara posting revived with OPM
>>135268591
2/10
>>135269506
I agree, is actually quite ironic. Like when /v/ complains about cancer.
>>135269506
/a/ has been no fun allowed for years trying to combat the newfag influx. It hasn't worked out well.
>>135267266
>You're acting like some kind of autist
>Gets mad when someone calls a film he likes overrated
>>135267429
Interstellar was shit though.
Either go hard sci fi or take it as far as you can with fantastical bullshit and dont even try to use science to justify it.
>>135269506
>Caring about memes to begin with
>>135270191
>Either go hard sci fi or take it as far as you can with fantastical bullshit and dont even try to use science to justify it.
>mfw Antman
>>135270501
Almost every post on here includes memes so of course you should care about them.
>>135267429
Interstellar is garbage.
>>135257231
>>135256885
>K-ON
discarded.
>>135270928
Dude it's the best thing ever animated.
>>135256772
People still waste braincells on 3DPD movies in this day and age?
Disgusting.
>>135267429
Interstellar is just a Madoka Magica Rebellion rip-off.
>IT WAS LOVE
>>135267429
>intersteller
>good
Kill yourself.
>>135270928
K-On! is the pinnacle of Japanese entertainment.
>>135269506
>DB laser shit
I swear that shit is facebook tier for a board that claims to be elitist.
>>135270928
Discard yourself you pleb
>>135256772
what is the name of the one on movie?
>>135256818
It is. The actual film studies community doesn't endorse this shit.
>>135256772
mononoke is a film
>>135270928
>discarding the Madoka of anime
go back to /gaia/
>>135269506
We can't beat Bane and CIA, nobody can.
>>135273557
Batman can.
>>135267429
Interstellar is shit and you just watch shit Anime
Best
>rating movies based on quality by labling them with increasingly less formal names
Is what true? Whats your question?
>>135256772
>GitS 2.0 picture
Fuck You
>>135275939
I didn't catch that.
>>135257542
Copypased from a post on /tv/:
Film vs Movie vs Cinema is real, but kino, fllick, etc were added by tasteless drones that were made insecure by this whole thing.
“A movie is made for an audience and a film is made for both the audience and the filmmakers. I think that The Game is a movie and I think Fight Club‘s a film. I think that Fight Club is more than the sum of its parts, whereas Panic Room is the sum of its parts. I didn’t look at Panic Room and think: Wow, this is gonna set the world on fire. These are footnote movies, guilty pleasure movies. Thrillers. Woman-trapped-in-a-house movies. They’re not particularly important.” - David Fincher
"My film is not a movie. My film is not about Vietnam. It is Vietnam. It's what it was really like. It was crazy. We were in the jungle, there were too many of us, we had access to too much money, too much equipment, and little by little we went insane." — Francis Ford Coppola
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film#Terminology_used
>By contrast, in the US "movie" is the predominant form. Although the words "film" and "movie" are sometimes used interchangeably, "film" is more often used when considering artistic, theoretical, or technical aspects, as studies in a university class and "movies" more often refers to entertainment or commercial aspects, as where to go for fun on a date. For example, a book titled "How to Read a Film" would be about the aesthetics or theory of film, while "Lets Go to the Movies" would be about the history of entertaining movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsp05iSk7s
movies are about economics.
cinema is about esthetics.
film is about politics.
-"How To Read A Film" by James Monaco
Also the separation is recognized in these texts
Bresson's Notes on the Cinematographer
Tarkovsky's Sculpting in Time
Delleuze's Cinema I&II
>>135256772
No,
I had my heart strings pulled a lot more from Princess Mononoke than NGE.
My brain was a lot more active in DBZ than GITS.
>all those thoughts on how I could get big muscles
>>135277720
they are different leagues
>>135256772
Why is there so much /tv/ bullshit on here lately?
>>135278936
/tv/ is literal cancer. They like to spread their shitty memes everywhere.
>>135256772
>Is this true?
No, because no one calls a movie a "cinema". That's a name for the medium.
>>135277719
So they're being used as ambiguously defined terms that become useless in actual discussion due to the lack of validation or reconciliation of their conflicting definitions. Sounds like every other word that's been invented by reviewers.
>>135279107
It's not something invented by just reviewers. Even directors like Tarkovski have made that distinction.
>>135279189
And even sci-fi writers make the distinction between hard and soft sci-fi, that doesn't mean the terms definitions aren't inconsistent as fuck.
>>135256772
>associates heart with emotions
you must believe in god too
>>135277719
I sort of see the point, but I wonder where movies that establish huge fanbases and cult-like followings fit in. Do we say something like Star Wars is a movie because it intentionally makes a lot of money, or is it cinema because it leaves such a lasting impression on people?
>/a/nons responding but trolling the shit out of OP
Sometimes I forget how much better this board is then shitholes that OP comes from like /tv/
>>135256772
>the flick is actually the most fun of the bunch
The truth about anime.
>>135279460
The only impression Star Wars makes on most people is that it makes them want to buy more Star Wars shit. By those definitions you could argue it's a film, but not that it's a cinema because the only thing that was ever impressive aesthetically were the practical effects.
>>135267429
interstellar is not a film it's a movie.
try Solaris or Stalker for a truly satisfying scifi film :^)
>>135279510
4chan as a whole is disgusting in 2015. Even a year ago /a/ was much more tolerable that it is now. If it's not a topic that the underage plague don't care about the thread isn't even worth looking at.
>>135256885
Objectively true
>>135279609
At least /a/ avoided /v/'s gg bullshit though.
>>135279248
Inconsistent sure, but not valid?
Fuck no
>>135281758
Fuck yes. If they're too inconsistent to be useful in discussion then how are they valid?
>>135281908
Because the use of the term can change a little bit from guy to guy but the main point and idea is there.
For example the idea of film from coppola and keifer is a little different but the main point about pointing how is more complex and made for other reasons besides an economic point of view and public stays.
Same with tarkovsky talking different kind of motion pictures
>>135283656
>but the main point and idea is there
Only with movies being economical. The difference between cinema and film isn't consistent.
>>135271407
>K-On!! is the pinnacle of Japanese entertainment.
FTFY
>>135283774
It is.
The reasons to be made and for the people is made are clearly different an specially how comples they are and they are trying to tell.
That's pretty consistent in every guy trying to point the differences in movies films and cinema
>>135283903
Complex and what they are*
>>135256772
Those four words are just synonyms, though I'd figure "flick" (and "kino") would be more suited for when you're talking about a short film. But I don't think use of those terms describes the quality of said works. For example, I like GitS more than the other three in that picture, followed by the first Broly movie, followed by Princess Monoke. In fact, the only one I don't own on DVD or bluray is NGE. Why? Because it sucks.
>>135284035
good taste
>>135283903
But half of them say the difference between them is that cinema is about aesthetic whereas film is about story.
Hi /tv/
>>135284160
Sure. But also they point of complex are one to each other and the different things they are trying to show.
Even people doing jokes or memes about it like the OP are trying to show how more complex and different is their purpose. That's actually consistent is everyone joking or not
>>135256772
I don't see the difference.
It's all the same.
>>135284266
In *
>>135284266
No it isn't, half of them don't even mention cinema at all. You're full of shit
>>135256772
>cinema
Something that bathes in the medium, that may or may not redefine it, but at the very least interfaces actively with the very essence of cinema in one way or another
>film
Something that is made at worst barely by the rules and usually has full, firm understanding of the medium, so almost all effort is poured -and it shows- into crafting a story, an audiovisual experience with a meaning or at least a defined intent and appreciable value
>movie
Something that revels in following the surefire, by-the-book guidelines of film-making and aims to nothing more nothing less than entertain people, and therefore can spread on a spectacularly wide range of quality
>flick
Shit you might happen to like because reasons
t. jawless kike
>>135284389
Yes they do. You even sais it before how half of them mention how cinema and film show aesthetics and the other story.
You're bitting your own tail here along with calling me full of shit just because I'm trying to prove you the consistent elements used in the definitions
>>135284485
So this? >>135256885
>>135284507
>Yes they do
Nothing in that post before the youtube video even mentions cinema.
>>135284542
>k-on
toppi kekki
>>135262837
There you go.
OP and whoever created OP's shit-pic need to an-hero.
>>135284589
The video of keifer is one example and you already clamed half of the people claim cinema is about aesthetics are youthe one lying and saying stuff without fundaments?.
First it was about not being consistent and now about not enough people talking about cinema?
Make up your mind buddy. Does people talking about the difference between them really upsets you?
>>135262837
Just like like a classic or a F1 are cars and still so different
>>135284693
>First it was abotu not being consistent and now about not enough people talking about cinema
I said the difference between cinema and film was inconsistent, because it is. For example the quote below the youtube video mentions aesthetics, but nothing about film or cinema being more complex than the other like you stated. You said that that was consistent between everyone, and then I mentioned that everyone in that copypasta doesn't even mention cinema as a separate branch to begin with.
>>135284891
It does in how to read a film and Dellueze talking about Cinema.
And i mentioned the consistent characteristics even when a few details change from dude to dude
>>135284971
You said the consistent characteristic was the degree of complexity, but the "How To Read A Film" quote doesn't mention that as a factor at all.
>>135285069
And also the message trying to show being different which is consistent about aesthetics and even you claimed half of the people mentioned this and same with keifer saying how there's a different categorie for that. Unless you were talking without fundaments about that you're bitting your own tail here because i not only mentioned cinema but films which are see like more complex and high brow
>>135256772
Nice meme kiddo
>>135270928
>faggot
discarded.
>Cinema
Owarimonogatari
>Film
One Punch Man
>Movie
Yuri Yuri S3
>Flick
K-ON!
>>135285246
>And also the message trying to show being different
Yes, they're consistent in that they have different messages, not in HOW those messages are different though, that's too vague to be useful in a discussion.
>talking without fundaments
What does that mean?
Also are you on your phone or ESL or something?
>>135284736
>Just like
No. Because the cars are of different specifications. Being a car is not enough to be a F1 car.
But all the above mentioned terms all refer to sequential images of moving pictures. That's it.
>>135285431
That's not to vague that's how the whole argument started and not only mine but others trying to prove there's a reason behind giving it different labels. And yes i'm posting from a cellphone i'm at work.
>>135285484
The movies and films also have different specifications.
Moving pictures is generic enough like saying four wheels and one engine
>>135285606
>That's not too vague
Yes it is. It just saying that everyone agrees they're about different things, but that no one can agree what they're about, that's useless if your planning on using these terms in a discussion.
Also what does talking without fundaments mean? Hyperbole or something?
>>135285669
>Moving pictures is generic enough
Good thing Cinema, Film, Movie, and Flick aren't that generic then.
Why do autists always put things in tiers?
i mean you can just tell someone is an spastic fuck when they start to categorize stuff into tiers
Remember those "GOD TIER, MID TIER, SHIT TIER" stuff? This is exactly like that.
>>135285669
It's motion picture.
>>135285675
And other guys already trying to point the difference between them and they are consistent about a few important things, they aren't vague enough there's already a few things to make other knew the difference and that's where this argument starts, about saying how they are vague enough to not being worthy of discussion, but on the contrary that leaves more space for that trying to explain why those definitions are on the first place
When i talked about not having fundaments i'm talking about you claiming half of the people don't use cinema and before how cinema is mentioned by half of the people to be about aesthetics
>>135285821
Exactly. I'm glad we agree on that
>>135285870
It's four wheels in movement
>>135286085
>they are consistent about a few important things
What are these things? They aren't consistent on the idea that the message is different, and they aren't consistent on the idea that film is more complex than cinema or vice versa.
I'm asking what talking without fundaments means.
Also claiming half the people both times was just hyperbole, I'm not saying literally 50% don't use it and the other 50% just use aesthetics, I'm saying a significant portion of them say or don't say those things. Because a few people mentioned cinema being about aesthetics, and a few people mention it just being a degree of complexity, and a few don't mention cinema at all.
>>135286085
>how they are vague enough to not being worthy of discussion
That's not what I'm saying, we obviously are discussing them right now. I'm saying they're useless within a discussion. You can have a discussion ABOUT them and what specifically they mean, but you can't use them in a discussion about motion pictures in general because the different parties will probably have conflicting definitions, making them useless.
>>135286117
That doesn't mean they aren't synonymous though. They are literally 4 words referring to the exact same thing. With the exception of "cinema", which is the same thing but shown at the cinema.
>>135286256
Sure but they are use to make a difference between them and other people use those terms based on what other people came to by experience or trying to give a different meaning.
I mentioned you claimed that because you said it without any explaining that you tried to show how not all people use the same terms and it seems like you used the wrong kind of words for that.
People trying to explainthe difference between films and movies and even cinema are still trying to get to a complete meaning, there's variations on what they are trying to say but the main idea behind it is consistent
>>135286411
You can use them in a general discussion about motion pictures, unless the discussion derails in trying to explainthey are the same thing. People are going to agree about some things about it and be against some other things but trying to classify a movie on the first place is made by everyone this not different
>>135286510
>and it seems like you used the wrong kind of words for that
Okay, I understand now. I guess you're right.
>>135286506
They can be used like synonymous but also for other reasons on the discussion about the different kind of movies
>>135286626
Only about that to be fair. My argument about films and movies being different is valid but really vague like you said and there's not a real or general conssensus about what is each kind of movie
This is what happens when you filter and ignore cancer. It's cancer, it's going to spread everywhere unless you report it.
>>135273557
>We can't beat Bane and CIA, nobody can.
I recognize that reference!
>>135256772
Your false tetrachotomy disgusts me.
>>135256772
The people who think this are the same people who think Citizen Kane is the greatest film of all time and still have yet to see it.
>treating entertainment like high art
>>135277719
Bullshit. They're all movies, they're all films, they're all cinema. Pretentious American faggots use the latter two terms for movies that appeal to their pretenses -- moderately and extremely respectively.
The best movie is the one you like the most. You there, reading this post. This is the ONLY coherent way to criticize art. The hard part is figuring out exactly why you like some things more than others. Most people don't sort out their feelings and figure out what they're drawn to. Either because they never cared to, or because they were trained by their lit teachers to dissect the complexity of the narrative (both its actual, ie designed by the artist, and imaginary complexity) and organize them into taxonomies rather than actually criticize.
Eventually the student believes that criticism is taxonomy, and it follows from this perspective that the best artworks have the most diverse taxonomy and intricate dissections. Better yet, the ones with vague pseudo-philosophical musings to mull over for a couple minutes after the credits roll.
And anyways, the best direction, writing, and cinematography practices are repped overwhelmingly by major movie productions. It has been that way since Citizen Kane, and the gap will only grow as directors explore ever more complex and demanding methods of production. Amateurs and small timers good for rough drafts and proof of concepts for new techniques. The armies of Hollywood make the best use of them.
>>135288467
The best of cinema (not anime) is high art.
>>135290452
And they're still movies.
>>135256772
Cinema is a location. You don't go see a cinema. The others are all object, historically the content of a film reel itself. You can watch a reel of film, but watching a cinema would be standing outside staring at the sign.
>>135285352
shut up faggot
