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>>135141540
なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！
Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Work is much more fun than fun.
オソッ
>>135169712
Just get WaniKani, it's 33% off.
I'm not quite sure if this is the right board to post this on, but I have begun to learn japanese (well have been learning for about 3 months now) and I have used Hacking Japanese Supercourse/Anki Flash/Japanese Podcast 101. But anyway as I'm learning how the kanji look and their meaning, I realized I have not learned the pronunciation of them, nor was told to. Is that expressly important or can I for-go that and just keep with learning their meanings and such?
>Tldr;
>I have learned the meanings of roughly 1500 kanji (and more to come)
>Should I also learn the pronunciation?
>>135169712
Nigga quit copying me. I'll fuck you up.
>>135169842
Jesus Christ anon.
>>135169842
Smells like reddit.
>>135169842
If you try and learn all of the readings aswell your brain will explode, it's much more manageable to learn the readings of kanji through vocabulary
>>135169868
A search shows that it was a thread on /jp/ and he got redirected here by them.
>>135169842
Ah dude, fuck that shit. Come back after the holidays.
>>135169917
Ye, my apologies, I don't often use this site rather than just /soc/ and /x/ I was uncertain where I needed to post this. And I am quite serious.
>>135169842
Try WaniKani. It does everything you're doing now but teaches you relevant pronunciations and words.
>>135169975
Not to mention that it's on sale right now.
>>135169917
God, don't they know we have our own fuck-ups to contend with?
Why can't they go for the old "No, everything is fine, continue doing everything as you are" line?
>>135169952
Everything is fine, just keep on doing whatever amazing course you're on and you'll be fluent in no time. In future, consider mailing your questions on a postcard to the north pole.
>>135169900
I agree with the brain exploding, I feel filled to the brim with all the kanji meanings I've learned so, I'd just have to ascertain their meaning through the kanji themselves? Even if I cannot say what they are? So more a listen rather than speak type of thing? And allow Japanesepodcast to teach me how to speak it persay.
I think I just found something missing from the DOJG and that's quite essential as it's used a lot.
～たて
http://www.e-japanese.jp/?p=728
>>135169988
Only the life-time subscription though, right? Well that's what you should be getting in any case.
>>135170064
Yeah, man. You want to keep those reviews up.
>>135170001
Listen here fuckboi, I came here asking for a simple response. I've made it farther than many of the fucking weebs that try to learn Japanese, and I'm committed. I just wanted to know if all this studying has been for naught. Or if I needed to start over. No need to be a pretentious cunt about it.
>>135170053
arigato kawaii des ne
>>135169842
You don't need to learn kanji readings. You do need to learn word readings though. Some words are written the same in kanji and are differentiated only by the pronunciation.
>>135170064
I wouldn't mind dropping some more cash on another lesson, but I've already spent 40 on Hacking Japanese Supercourse and have had good results, except for the aforementioned issue I just realized.
>>135170095
I mean ... it's probably not for naught. It'll probably help you remember vocab. You should get on the generic grammar guide + anki core deck asap though. Usual recommendations are Tae Kim, Genki, Jap the Manga Way. I don't think you've read the sticky either, so read the sticky.
Christmas reps!
What the hell is Hacking Japanese Superco
>>135170156
Alright, I was planning on starting those after finishing the last 300 or so I have yet to memorize (enough to pass JPL1 or read a newspaper) would it be wise to wait till then to begin the actual speaking?
>>135170095
>I've made it farther than many of the fucking weebs that try to learn Japanese, and I'm committed.
You've もう failed.
>>135170151
>Paying to learn Japanese
Aggghhhh
>>135170095
If you were even slightly "committed", you'd have thought twice before learning arbitrary meanings for 1.5 thousand symbols.
It's not like you actually learnt them anyway, you've probably seen each one once over the last week and figured you can still tell them apart or something.
Try Reddit, it's more your style.
>>135170095
Only silly billies learn kanji separately and not through vocab.
>>135170207
Considering I have a fine job with great pay, 40$ for an edge is absolutely nothing.
>>135170198
>he thinks he'll pass JPL1 with kanji meanings
>>135170242
Doesn't matter if you can afford it, it's the principle
>>135170095
Kanji vs vocab is a meme debate here because we don't have data on how much learning kanji in isolation helps with retaining vocab. However, the following are facts:
1) It's definitely possible to memorize and/or learn vocab without studying their kanji beforehand
2) There is a chance that memorizing kanji in isolation can be more efficient if and only if it makes you spend less time memorizing or learning vocab
3) All native japanese are taught 2136 kanji through public school, and learn several hundred more through natural exposure (including before they graduate).
Make your decision based on that instead of engaging in autistic arguments. Thank you.
>>135170234
Or I spend 3 hours a day reviewing all the previous kanji I have learned? (havent started today) but as yesterday my review consisted of 1635 kanji to review (naturally it didn't go through all of them but reviewed some from all days for the past 3 months)
>>135170095
If I were you, I'd drop the individual kanji learning and start on a core anki deck to get some vocab learnt.
The kanji learning you did will probably somewhat help you with this.
>>135170242
>paying for something gives me an edge
Dude, paypal me a thousand bucks and I'll make you fluent in a week GUARANTEED, or your money back.
The address is [email protected].
>>135170242
Throw me $40 and I'll happily tutor your sister in Japanese.
This kanji guy can't be real but I hope he is.
>>135170267
>implying I plan on taking the JPL1 anytime soon.
>>135170242
Honestly at this point you're just making it ass out of yourself and digging yourself deeper into the hole. It'd be better to read the guide and lurk.
Anyone know where I can get ahold of volume 10 of D-frag for download. It's not in the CoR as far as I can tell. I know of a few places where I can read it online, like senmanga, but no place where I can download it. Nyaa doesn't have it, unfortunately.
>>135170277
>3 hours a day reviewing all the previous
Jesus Christ. You've really gone off the rails, haven't you?
>>135170339
What part of "I'm committed" was lost on you? When I do shit, I do it to the maximum limit I can manage. 3 hours is nothing. Still have plenty of time for gf, job, and free time. What is 3 hours a day to learn something I've always wanted to?
>>135170300
Sorry she likes guys with big dicks. Micro-sam over here won't please shit ;)
>>135169842
This guy paid $40 for a copy of the guide.
>>135170422
Man, I don't mind this guy sticking around anymore. It's pretty funny to read these dumbshit posts.
You've won me over bud, keep up the hilarious work.
>>135170433
need steve and namasensei
>>135170422
Mate, 3 hours a day is way more than you should ever spend on something as useless as kanji meanings.
Excerpt from Rosario Vampire
>妖怪しか通えぬこの学園の存在を知った人間は殺すのが掟！
This was presented as one continuous sentence. If there was a break between 通えぬ and この it would simply say "Only youkai can enter this school; any human who knows about this school are killed!"
But the way this is presented confuses me.
>>135170472
yep. Difference between learning and being taught the most effective way to learn this. Like I said, 40$ is chump change.
>>135170472
Dude, it's only 40 bucks to HACK JAPANESE. It's like a lifehack, or hacking the planet, only specifically for Japanese. You can't get info like that for free, dude. It's only 40 bucks for a 2 page pdf or something, dude. What are you, poor?
I prefer DJT when people are actually discussing Japanese and not all sperging out together
>>135170530
close, 485 pages. Honestly why does it concern you what I use to be taught the correct way? A ver close friend of mine also used this course 3 years ago and is currently living in Kyoto. Seemed to work for him.
>>135170458
Don't project your tiny pecker onto me, lad.
>>135170524
If you're learning Kanji meanings, then you're basically taking a course in "how to get ripped off by a retard".
It's about the most inefficient possible use of your time.
>>135170576
Haha how the fuck did they fill almost 500 pages? Did they just fucking copy all of RTK over? Give us a sample, mate.
>>135170515
It's not just the kanji, that includes lessons from JapanesePod101 as well as various other lessons. 3 hours of studying a day.
>>135170558
Opposite for me.
>>135170576
>>>/jp/14525378
Tell them we sent you back.
In modern Japanese, which two kanji are used for the colours blue and green?
青 has confused me. Surely it's now common to use one kanji for one colour, not one kanji for two.
>>135170517
Forgot to add that the killing thing is a law. Whatever.
>>135170517
I think it's basically
>It's the law that humans who know about the existence of this school, which only youkai can attend, will be killed!
>>135170670
You'll usually see green as 緑
>>135170670
青 is cyan and blue, not green and blue
>>135170719
So it's usually safe to read 青 as blue?
>>135170785
Depends. Is someone talking about traffic lights? Because then it's green.
>>135170785
Yeah, most of the time you'll know through context anyway
>>135170810
>>135170811
>>135170719
Thank you.
>>135170771
In other words, sky-colored
>Why are japanese colors so retarded?
Nigga, lemme tell you a story....
>>135171045
>cyan
Normal people would call that blue or light blue.
>>135171216
This is the shit I'm talking about.
>>135169842
I know Jpod101 has its good points. But what's in this "Hacking Japanese Supercourse"?
>>135171247
It's the Ultimate Ninja Guide to Mastering Japanese.
http://courses.nihongoshark.com/
>I just won't know unless I try touching you, but the truth is that Yoshinoya is this warm too...
Is this what it's saying? The だけで is throwing me off.
>>135171247
>http://bitlasers.com/djt
honestly I have been using it for some time, but now that I'm skipping chapters ahead, I'm realizing it is just more a resource. Which is fine, but lately I've been getting overwhelmed with what I don't know. So idk what to tell ya man.
>>135171216
You're objectively wrong.
>>135171422
i have no idea where that bitlasers came from. whoops.
>>135171476
Your face is objectively wrong
Whats the kanji that a lot of ero stuff that uses 色 for the first part and has like a million strokes for the second kanji?
Also I know I'm finally advancing when I understood everyone come in this kid pussy.
>>135171338
>Be yourself
>Use the Internet
>IMMERSION
Totally worth the money.
>>135171647
http://jisho.org/search/%E8%89%B2%3F
Keep scrolling down there until you see it, there's only three pages
Is it 艷 or 艶? If it's not either you'll need to provide a pic.
>>135171405
Anyone?
>>135171825
Thanks, looks like 色素
What the fuck is this character supposed to be?
>>135172470
駄, you dumb piece of shit. That's perfectly readable.
>>135172506
>>135172509
Thanks and sorry.
I don't know shit I was just using that google handwriting thing to figure it out.
>>135172597
If you had learnt your radicals you'd know that its just a 馬 and a 太
>>135172661
Why do you care so much?
100% retention on reviews for the first time. Nice.
>>135172779
You piss me off, man.
>>135172779
My care level is zero
I was just sharing the best and fastest way to identify kanji that you don't know
>>135172799
post your stats
>>135172908
5" length 3" girth angled 10 degrees to the left
>>135172959
Sorry I only get hard to sick Anki stats, you'll have to do better
>>135172908
RTKfag, however, I was only halfway through it when I decided to start Core. I got 800-900 cards into Core at 100 new cards/day when I decided all the kanji I hadn't seen yet were screwing me up and decided to cut new cards/day to 0 while I finished RTK, and in a few weeks once I'm done get back on the Core wagon. Not ever stopping the daily reviews, of course.
>>135171405
If you don't just try touching (name), you won't know he is this warm
I suck at translating but this should carry the meaning pretty well. Not sure how to explain だけで, pretty sure it's だけ+で if you want to look it up
>>135170062
That's just 立て being used as a suffix. There are lots of minor suffixes and auxiliary verbs DOJG doesn't cover.
>>135172959http://howlongismyschlong.com/
>>135173267
Remember anything longer than 3 inches is a waste because they won't be able to feel the difference. What matters after that is the circumference.
>>135173237
Now that you mention it, it really seems like the sentence is inverted.
>>135173267
Feels bad.
>>135173639
>in a room of 1,000 guys, 1,000 should be larger
>>135173639
Don't worry anon. Not like it matters anyway but your length and girth are well within normal ranges. Anything within the middle 90% (and probably a bit further than that) is totally fine. I don't know how the fuck your flaccid penis is 0.5 inches though.
>>135173778
>I don't know how the fuck your flaccid penis is 0.5 inches though.
grower not a shower. I have one like that. It just expands a lot more.
>>135173639
>>135173829
>another fellow grower
>>135173778
It sort of just shrivels up and becomes really small. I'd post a picture but I don't want people to find out who I am.
>DJT: Dick Justification Thread
You niggers saying your cock has a circumference of 4"-5" have never actually measured that shit.
>>135173975
Why? Too small or too large?
>>135173267
>http://howlongismyschlong.com/
>>135173455
>>135173639
>>135173888
That's pretty weak, lads.
>>135174081
We found the nigger.
>>135174081
Oh yeah? Look at mine, I just didn't post it since I didn't want to embarrass you fags.
>>135174132
You're the nigger here.
>>135174159
That's epic, man.
>tfw 3.5" length 6" circumference
>>135174224
what the fuck
Wow all of you are fags
Should I read Hatsukoi 1/1 or hoshiori first? Which one is generally more well liked?
>>135174259
You shouldn't have to be ashamed of your dick.
>>135174293
Post your dick stats and I'll tell you.
仏に逢えば仏を殺せ
祖に逢えば祖を殺せ
何物にも捕われず
縛られず
ただあるがままに己を生きる
>>135173972
Thought I'd come into this thread to see how everyone's studying is going......
>>135174407
Oh shit I'm sorry.
>>135174354
I just want someone to choose for me so I can start reading.
>>135174445
Sorry for what? Our daddies taught us not to be ashamed of our dicks, especially since they're so big and all.
Word of the day: 飯事
母さんの「ママ」じゃないぞ
妙に意味が合ったんですけどね
I want to hide the section english for every card in the deck. is there an easy way of doing this for the whole deck instead of selecting one individually?
>>135174779
delete that field from your card type?
>>135174497
>tfw 4 inch thin penis
Merry Christmas everyone
>>135171405
What VN?
>>135174779
I changed the font color to black just in case I want to quickly look at them.
>>135174382
>>>/trash/683405
Why are you so slutty and cock craving, stop using Maki's name.
>>135174895
Cool idea, Batman. I'll do the same.
>>135174895
damn das good idea bich
>>135174849
Merry Christmas to you too my fellow small dicked friend
>>135174895
Please share the code for the box with me. I'm too lazy to figure it out on my own.
I don't visit much anymore but Merry Christmas DJT I hate all of you faggots.
>>135174849
I knew it would be tiny.
>>135175051
Same color as your background you faggot
>>135175058
Y-you too
>>135175051
>>135174858
Lovely Cation 2
or Pretty Cation 2 one of those
Is DoJG.apkg the deck I need to get?
>>135175088
Where do you stick it though, so that it only affects the English translation?
>>135175084
You think about my penis?
Its all good im still muscular and cute and fuzzy and girls and gays seem to like me a bunch.
Merry Christmas anon
>>135174989
How big?
Wanna be my boyfriend?
>>135175192
Thanks!
>>135174895
how?
>>135175251
If you can't figure easy shit like this out, how the hell do you expect to learn japaense? The code is in fucking English, bruh.
Sorry. I just hate myself and want to die because I don't have any friends and shit like that...
Just look at the field name in the card, I'm sure you can figure it out.
>>135175263
It was pretty obvious, I didn't have to spend time thinking about it.
>>135175498
そうか
>>135175498
Well Merry Christmas to you anon I don't want to shit one of the few actually good generals up. I come here everyday under anon this really is a quality thread even the offtopic stuff is higher quality.
>2875 total unique kanji
>>135175700
That's not a high quality post. How did they even let you join the navy when you always sound like a big crackhead?
>>135175927
It's kind of overwhelming when you look at the grid and think you learned every single one of those, one (or more) at a time. It always seemed like such a mystical thing to me, like real moon runes.
>>135175982
Are you flirting with me? I hope you are tbqh...
Alright if you want to continue shitposting ill be on int.
>>135176035
>overwhelming
It makes me feel like 3000 isn't that big of a number.
>>135176259
Yeah, 3000 really doesn't look very impressive when you see it like that.
>>135176259
Perhaps I've expressed myself poorly. It's kind of 不思議 for lack of a better English word, precisely because of how trivial it seems in hindsight, despite it looking like such an exotic concept back then.
>do new cards
>power blinks
>have to redo them due to lost progress
>100% retention on new cards
Thanks lightning!
>>135176434
不思議 is a word I use a lot instinctual (+苦笑) even when thinking in English because it's so useful.
>Gotta shit
>But I'm at work
>Only toilets are those ones that are about a foot off the ground
Dunno if I can make it home, boys.
>>135175235
It is great for grammar, if you're after studying grammar.
Is it possible to learn from Japanese the Manga Way?
>>135176709
Channel your kanji powers and drop a large dookie on the grass like a true Chinese
婦
嫁
Literally indistinguishable
>>135176752
Yes, but don't use it as your only resource
>>135176752
It is possible to get a great and accessible introduction to Japanese sentence structure and general usage without having prior knowledge of the Japanese language.
All these pictures of Maki are making my dick semi hard. Do you guys ever get a strong urge to fap halfway through your reps? It happens to me almost every day at 10/20 new words left.
>>135176985
underageb&
>>135176985
I've started masturbating two or three times a day as a form of procrastination. I'm currently trying to stop. I prefer to space them out a few days.
>>135176985
I pretty much masturbate every time I do my reps if I do them in the morning on a day off.
>>135171422
>So idk what to tell ya man.Tell him the address of a mega or torrent with the pdf in it
>>135176985
I masturbate to nukige so much every day it's impossible for me to feel aroused without three dicks, eight vaginas, and seven tits staring me in the face as wailing Japanese women assault my ears with moans of ecstasy.
>>135177010
I'm 21 next month.
>>135177082
This is pretty much me except I can't space them out because I'm an addict. a few days ago I came across 取れる and I had to stop and see if it was a tag on pixiv. Would that word even apply to clothes coming off? It didn't have that many results.
>>135176985
>mined a few words from H scenes and doujins
>get sexually aroused when I see them while doing reps or sometimes reading, but they're easy to remember
>>135175982
wait, is this the same guy who joined then pretended not to be home when the recruiter showed up to pick him up for the test?
he really joined?
hope he went nuke, every other deal is shit
>>135177359
Yeah he reconsidered after awhile
Well it's already christmas where I am so
メリークリスマス
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2d7UhK5SAE
>>135177359
Yeah im the same guy. I didn't end up being nuke because of my somewhat colorblindness but I am going to be an administrator on a ship that travels the world. Nothing really manly or whatever but im proud of it.
>>135177293
Lel
>>135177723
>I am going to be an administrator
>>135177785
>hes going to have a successful life after the navy and fuck girls around the world
Ill be set for life though and once I go to Japan ill tell you guys about it if it actually helped my japanese at all.
>壱
>弐
>>135177922
I talked to one of the American soldiers based in Okinawa, he said since there's such a large American presence there they basically speak no Japanese whatsoever.
>>135177922
But he's gay, anon. He's going to fuck boys around the world.
無死
What the FUCK. I've been waiting over an hour to start my reps. I was just trying to figure out how to synchronize with my phone.
>>135178429
You gotta select "don't synch media" in the options menu, brah. You messed up.
鴉の濡れ羽色
would you use the ni particle or wo particle describe riding a bus/train etc. I understand it's for time or location, but it makes sense to me that car/bus/train could be the direct object of ride.
>>135178890
バスに乗る
バスを使う
バスで行く
>>135178922
Can you explain the distinction between the top and second ones? I can't see why noru can't make a bus its direct object and use wo instead
>>135179038
Fuck off, this is literally a question you could answer just by reading more of whatever basic grammar book you're using. Learn the difference between transitive and intransitive verbs.
/djt/ IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL TUTOR
/djt/ IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL TUTOR
/djt/ IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL TUTOR
>>135179104
Can you be an autist somewhere else?
>>135177723
Source?
>>135179217
He has a point though.
>>135179217
>Learn the difference between transitive and intransitive verbs
Despite his attitude, he actually gave an important advice. It's something you should have learned at school, and anyone trying to actively learn a language needs to know.
>>135179446
will do, cheers. Being native english I have never learned of many of these grammatical constructs until i started learning another language. e.g until i started learning japanese i had no idea what a conjugation was.
Interesting how I learn things about my own language from studying another
>>135179446
>anyone trying to actively learn a language needs to know.
>tfw I don't know what they are
>no trouble reading japanese
I guess you don't actually need to know what they are
>>135179604
Reminds me of how someone asked a question about the difference between る and う verbs and I had actually forgotten that such a distinction existed.
>>135179652
There's a reason why some verbs have ru and some are u?
>>135179652
Fuck tae kim for confusing me with his bullshit paragraph on ru and u verbs.
I read a blog post by some jap lady who explained godan and ichidan verbs properly and it made so much more sense than tk's
>>135179604
That's why I said actively learning a language, not reading until you eventually understand it.
Difference between 短い and 低い?
>>135179692
Not really a reason. It just is a tool to use on how to conjugate verbs. For example. 知る turns to 知りたい whereas 食べる turns to 食べたい (not 食べりたい).
>>135179716
You don't read and one day magically understand, you have to look up stuff you don't understand, which is studying.
I read all of Tae Kim am I ready to read real japanese?
>>135179839
Yeah but you'll need to reference back a lot and also do the DOJG deck
>>135179852
Nice. I'm excited to read already. I have been waiting for this moment my entire life.
>>135179752
低い is low (height, quality, volume...), 短い is short (time, length....but NOT height)
>>135179819
I haven't read any grammar guides and have no problems reading VNs
>>135179898
Well it's gonna be hard in the beginning.
>>135179947
You don't "have" to but it makes it a fuckton easier and saves a lot of time for the vast majority of people.
Did that guy (Benny?) end up learning Japanese in 4 weeks?
>>135180014
>learn Japanese
>in 4 weeks
I don't know who he is, but no, he did not learn Japanese in 4 weeks
>>135180014
ya he learned kana and called it a day.
>>135180014
Benny aims for fluency in 6 months, not 4 weeks, and he stilled failed completely.
>>135180014
>Benny attempts Japanese in 3 months
>makes a 2 month video and then never another
>Benny's girlfriend attempts Russian in 3 months
>makes a 2 month video and then never another
This shit is annoying. His girlfriend is cute though, I watched all of her Esperanto and Russian videos.
>>135179905
Alright thanks. Another one I didn't understand was 広い and 大きい、 you can use 広い only for width right?
>>135180069
Have any of these faggots ever taken language tests after they are supposedly fluent?
>>135180173
FUCK OFF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>135180211
>learning kanji
that'll just slow them down
>>135180173
大きい is animate objects, 広い is for inanimate.
>>135180173
Yes, 広い is for large spaces, but not for things that are big in height
>>135180255
wat
>>135180297
Stop spreading misinformation please.
Are you a bad enough dude to understand this joke?
>>135180393
No.
>>135180069
What am I looking at?
>>135180469
Me neither its tricky
>>135180488
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMTYnfTI97Y
>>135180535
How can anyone sound this fucked up?
My pronunciation was never this bad
>>135180393
Was that supposed to be hard?
>>135180535
should i actually watch this or is it going to make me cringe
>>135180699
>>135180393
What is A for starters?
>>135180699
>hard
>language
everything is relative to how much someone has studied, dude.
>>135180734
The first letter of the American alphabet.
>>135180535
>ぼこ
every time
>>135180734
Context won't help you, you must simply know Japanese
>>135180771
>わがらねぇ
>>135180805
Well, I don't know what A means, context or not.
>>135180734
Japanese equivalent to what you americans call "first base"
>>135180583
>>135180912
>implying I'm American
Cotuntry：Japan
Best anime for me：Madoka Magica
Anime I cried：ano hana
What is your Best／cried anime?
I wanna know it!
>>135180957
Steve is so based.
>>135181004
I cried a lot when the purple haired girl in SAO 2 died of AIDS.
Is there perhaps a site that shows.. deformations or something of certain characters?
Been trying to translate some pics, but then you get things like pic related where I can't decipher half of it.
>>135180069
that bitch is ugly, how dare she laugh at a proud 100% aryan man taking pity for her and learning the language of barbarians to bring civilization to them
Reading a manga filled with puns is harder than reading plot visual novels
>>135181222
watashi a tada something something
looks like kanji for 使う but it's probably not
then that one on the second line is 好? fuck if I know
