Rei or Asuka?
>>135096549
Rei
What the hell happened?
>>135096549
Why not both?
mogudan rei
>>135096576
Red > Blue. Always.
Red.
>times Shinji came to rescue Rei: 1
>times Shinji came to rescue Asuka: 0
Asukafag and proud
Rei is by far the best of the two.
>>135097006
Nothing to be proud about, liking "red", aka the bandwagon meme waifu makes you a brainless pleb.
Is there anyone working on translating the DVD extras?
>>135096576
it's spelled Ahsoka
>>135096549
Asuka a best and my waifu.
>>135096702
Always?
>>135096923
because employing the thought process of an unloved edgy kid is what we should all do. kill yourself
The great waifu war is over.
It was already settled that Rei is best girl.
>>135096923
Its like youve never seen magmadiver you retarded faggot
>>135096923
>times Shinji came to Rei: 0
>times Shinji came to Asuka: 1
Rei
>>135096702
>red pleases middle-aged men for free
>red pleases old men for money
Pottery.
>>135100002
Not comatose enough.
>>135100002
>>135098645
You mean Anno's phone interview and such?
They've already been translated, but no one ever put them into subs:
http://pastebin.com/u/TyroLuuki
>>135100188
BRAVO VINCE
Please teach her how to fight, Luke-sensei.
>>135099851
This.
The waifu war was over. Rei won. A long time ago.
Asukafags rely on a zombie-franchise using a representation of Asuka and Rei that are incompatible with the originals, and aren't even in thread.
In other words, Asukafags are leaning on a post-war fantasy that's been spun up to satisfy themselves, much like the loser of WWII, Japan', religiously deny anything that happened and spin themselves as heroes.
>>135096576
Love.
>>135100323
>samefagging or circlejerking revionism which is ironically hypocritical
>spacing like a retard
Sasuga.
>>135096549
Neither
>>135096549
Asuka, she's strong and independent.
>>135100323
jesus christ how can you guys deep this down in a fucking waifu war
>>135100389
>butthurt asukafag thinking I'm samefagging to further spin his inane fantasy instead of addressing the point made, either debating it or rebuking it
Sasuga, just proved me right there.
Also, I was of course not samefagging.
>>135099851
ain't me.
>>135100002
>times Shinji has held Rei: 1
>times Shinji has held Asuka: 0
I ship autistic textwalling Reifag with fireposter
>>135100446
>being this defensive
How blatant.
>>135100429
We only went this deep because of Asukafags. Normal, well-adjusted non-otaku fans would simply bask in the glory that is both Asuka and Rei - or rather, Evangelion - but Asukafags are petty, insolent and vengeful - but worst of all, incapable of changing on their own.
It was never enough to be behind Shinji and Rei for them.
>>135096549
Shinji.
>>135100398
This.
one and only
>>135100508
>still accusing me of something I didn't do
>still making up your own fantasy instead of addressing the realities or my point
Keep proving me right tho.
Can't I have both like Shinji does in various doujinshi?
>>135100553
This, you have to be pretty weak to like rei.
>>135100473
Rebuild doesn't matter
>>135100521
agreed
as a fellow Reifag, I have absolutely nothing against Asuka: she's an interesting character, and also cute.
But Asukafags, oh boy, they are the ultimate scum of the Earth.
>>135100323
Rei never won faggot
Moot said Asuka
>>135100627
>>135100521
>replying to yourself, changing to lowercase in an unsubtle effort to disguise
>>135100694
>M
>>135100694
So did Hiroyuki.
>>135100694
Moot abandoned us.
>>135100647
She everything worth winning.
>>135100706
>being this butthurt about having lost
>>135099340
That's by far one of the best cosplay I've seen.
>Inb4 trap
>>135100751
>>135100694
An hiro and moots opinion is worthless, so it doesn't count.
>Asukafags
>rely on authorities to tell them what to like or think
>likes asuka because guaranteed fanservice
>likes asuka because uh, anno and some web administrator does
>religiously deny the original asuka in favor of shikinami
>Reifags
>rely on NGE and NGE alone to help them figure out which is best
>rejects any authority fallacy
>likes best girl, Rei
Yep.
>>135100765
>She everything worth winning
Nice grammar retard.
>>135100706
lol I'm another anon you submissive fag
>>135100843
This, asukafags are omegas who want a dominating bitch with no sense of emotional stability.
>>135100853
it's called ebonics, racist
report to the next diversification centre, cis scum
>>135100886
Define omegas. I always thought they were guys with patrician tastes in women and a whole different take on the sex game.
>>135100886
A dominating bitch who can't dominate anyone, mind you.
Rei's commanding slap and motherly authority commands sons, husbands, men and daughters alike.
Asuka only commands betas.
>>135100843
>14:59:46
>15:00:52
The absolute madman, he's still at it after getting called out twice.
>>135100938
>You will never be this delusional of a Reifag
>You will never be a Reifag
Feels great, man.
>>135100473
>World Cups won by Germans: 1
>World Cups won by clones: 0
>>135100938
>A dominating bitch who can't dominate anyone, mind you.
That's because most men are too pussy to submit.
>>135100942
A lonely Asukafag calling out into the night, shrieking his perceived injustices for no one to hear, looked down upon by the Mods above who know his tomfoolery.
Neither, OP
>>135101001
Asuka is only 1/4th German.
A mutt.
Shikinami isn't German at all, so why is there a Shikinami in that picture?
>>135101009
>perceived injustices
Is that what you call your samefagging? Notice how each time I'm only getting one response, further cementing the fact.
>>135101033
This. It really is sad how Asukafags need to rely on non-asuka/nge related things to promote their waifu.
>>135101049
It's what I call your posts. If I were samefagging, I'd just give you two replies instead of one.
It appears the other anon is not interested in feeding your butthurt, may Mods Confirm.
>>135101002
How the actual fuck does that work.
>>135101227
You can start by shutting your pig mouth and doing what your mistress tells you to do.
>>135101180
>If I were samefagging, I'd just give you two replies instead of one.
Sure, I believe you.
>may Mods Confirm.
Just how new are you? Mods couldn't give a fuck less about you or I and certainly wouldn't post with a capcode just to support you. Get the fuck out.
>>135101260
But my "mistress" in the case of Asuka is a red-haired whore I don't respect on any level whatsoever. I know she's shit. Hell, deep inside she knows she's shit.
There can never be total command. I can pretend to go along with it, but it will be for any other reason than actually submitting.
In my heart, I will never have submitted, and it will be a failure.
>>135101377
Rei is the Ikari bicycle though and thinks less of herself than Asuka does, though.
>>135101260
>being dominated by a "mistress" 4 years younger than me
Yeah, not my fetish.
The girl has to be older and wiser by some significant margin in order for it to work, anon.
>>135099851
>>135100002
>B-but Rei won!
Delusional
As always, Reifags can't get a break
>Asuka won in anime
>Asuka won in manga
>Rei got absolutely rejected and KEKED in Koutetsu no Girlfriend 2nd
>Just when she was about to win for the first time, got BTFO and replaced by a literal clone in Rebuild
>Moot prefers Asuka
>Hiro prefers Asuka
>Anno prefers Asuka
Reifags should just give up, it's embarrassing at this point
>>135101495
>Misato
>wise
>>135101495
Shes weak. Probably doesn't have in it her to smack you a few times because she felt like it.
>>135101527
Not him, but how exactly did Asuka win in the Anime or the Manga?
Unless winning in Eva just means surviving instead of winning the Shinjib owl.
In that case, then yes, Asuka did win.But Kaworu still is the consistent winner of the Shinjib owl.
>>135101538
>>135101601
Never seen any other woman that wanted pity sex with a 14-year-old.
Don't have to tell you who'd be the dominating party in that kind of thing.
>>135101014
Finally, a man of refined taste.
>>135101455
Rei could not be dominated by Gendo, and in the end, he was there screaming Rei's name for mercy. To stop.
Rei can not, due to her indifferent and transient nature, truly be owned like Asuka or others can. Hence when Rei decides it is time to dominate you, you cannot resist at your own deepest level. Rei does not break, but you will.
Struggling and screaming, kicking and denying, of course, you can always do that, and you are expected to do so when dominated properly. Otherwise you're just getting petted.
But Rei has a deeper, more fundamental authority that the likes of Asuka will never have. Rei has a primal, ancient and undeniable essence, that of the primordial mother, who created you, fostered you, made you, or abandoned you. Asuka will only be your peer, but Rei will always be more than you in that regard.
Because Rei can invoke this judgement, she will dominate you physically.
Because Rei can invoke the image of someone more ancient and superior, you will be dominated psychologically.
But most of all, because this punishment, is something Rei can choose not to give, and will not do so unless you deserve it for your actions, your very soul and spirit will be dominated.
The submission is when the full Rei chooses to dominate, total and inadmissable.
>>135101629
In anime by the virtue of not ending up a grinning decapitated half of a face perpetually bleeding into the world and an incorporeal spectre simultaneously; also being alive and the true love interest helps.
In manga by being actually reincarnated and meeting Shinji again
>>135101527
>Asuka won in anime
comatose suicidal bitch
>Asuka won in manga
like how?
>>Rei got absolutely rejected and KEKED in Koutetsu no Girlfriend 2nd
spinoffs? what? didn't even read.
>Just when she was about to win for the first time, got BTFO and replaced by a literal clone in Rebuild
same story as above.
>Moot prefers Asuka
>Hiro prefers Asuka
>Anno prefers Asuka
for any other reason than "Asuka".
Asukafags, you gave up and forfeited any victory when you gave up Asuka in favor of a waifu version of asuka. When you couldn't accept that Asuka was a wreck, and inferior to Rei in stature.
>>135101946
>textwall Reifag is back
This thread needed to die anyhow.
>>135102042
>comatose suicidal bitch
As opposed to Kentucky Fried Allahu Akbar Rei?
>>135101983
None of those constitute "winning".
Rather the victory goes to Rei, who achieved godhood and eternal existence through that godhood, saved Asuka and Shinji.
>>135102042
>what? didn't even read
reifags everyone
>>135101983
>the true love interest
Kaworu?
>>135100188
Now i get it
This is blood from her hymen
NGE sureis deep
>>135100420
This, Rei is so shit that even when she finally managed to cut off the strings Gendo had on her she couldn't help but turn for another person (Shinji) to order her around.
>>135102105
Not comatose
Not a bitch
Only pragmatically suicidal, which is far better than asuka's complete attempt at final self-erasure
Rei bombing Armisael not only saved Asuka, Shinji and the world, but ironically herself.
>>135100473
>>135102133
>this denial
Yes they do m'lad
Rei is a catalyst puppet
>>135102170
Rei cannot deny her true nature of being an Ikari sex doll.
She exists to only follow their orders.
>>135102170
>>135102255
>doing something for someone else is "being ordered around"
>kicking the other persons ass is being "ordered around"
Really reaching hard there Asukafags.
Reminder that Asuka never broke her strings. Reminder that Asuka literally DIED being NERV's lapdog, sent to fight and die for nothing.
Reifags are so delusional. They're all autistic which is why they never shut the fuck up.
HEY REIFAGS, YOUR WAIFU IS AN AUTISTIC SOULESS CLONE THAT GENDO USES AS A FUCKDOLL, NOT TO MENTION THAT SHE WAS THE SHITTIEST LOLI EVER AND GOT WRECKED BY A FEMKEK AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>135102248
>Sadamoto: I think, if you take Asuka as being, for Shinji, a symbol of the longed-for opposite sex, Rei is "maternal." For one, it seems like she has the genetic material of Shinji's mother. For myself, if I am asked who between Asuka and Rei I like more, it is probably because somewhere in Rei there is something motherly, and when Shinji looks disheartened she "scolds" him ever so softly. Rei asks Shinji, "Are you running away again?" Quite often she says harsh things that really get down to the point. It would be ideal if a friend of his would say it, but for some reason that doesn't happen. That [action of Rei's] is because a mother will absolutely not abandon her child. I think that, for Shinji, Rei is that sort of motherly existence.
>Sadamoto: I have become popular thanks to Rei, but for me, she is a character I created by drawing on an embarassing, messy part, something like a sadistic desire, within myself. She's a type of character I've never drawn before now, and I had all sorts of worries while creating her. Asuka, in this sense, is a character where the masochistic part of me emerges.
>>135102321
slow down there friend
>>135102253
>becoming the supreme being on earth and probably, the near galaxy is somehow "being a catalyst puppet"
Let's drop the denial, and let's take the facts. Your doll waifu Asuka was nothing more than NERV's puppet all along.
She never improved, and died in their service.
Rei reclaimed her stolen legacy and denied the ultimate patriarchal figure in ALL of Evangelion, Gendo.
Asuka dies in his service, for literally nothing.
Then Rei saves her.
>>135101033
>a mutt
Have you seen the German national football team?
Not one purebreed in sight.
Can we all just take a moment to talk about how much better both of them are in the 1.0 and 2.0?
I honestly never fucking liked any of them.
They where both cunts in each their respective ways
They actually feel like they have some human emotion now
>inb4 some faggot with nostalgia goggles tells me to fuck off
>Anno: Sadists, without question, go to Rei, because of their sadistic desires. I believe that masochists go to Asuka. And, there is a tendency for women of the same generation and people who are children mentally to go to Misato.
>>135102335
You forgot to add:
>Sadamoto: In fact, Shinji and Rei, and Shinji and Asuka, their touch stopped at holding hands. Everytime they hold their hands, it has a different meaning. It is one fun fact about EVA……So I never intend to let the children’s relationship go beyond that. On the contrary, Kaworu is the only one who overstep the boundary, he break the rule.
>>135102364
The only doll here is the one who reaches godhood and STILL get rejected
lmaoing @ your doormat
>>135102402
Alphas go for Rei,
Beta go for Asuka.
Asukafaggotry is only for r9k-tier losers who dream about their little "beta-uprising", creating endless fantasy worlds (re-take, rebuild, whatever "re" you want to call it, signifying their wish for a re-match since they lost) to soothe themselves.
>>135102478
>mangafox
>>135102478
Rei can be rejected by a thousand Shinji's, a thousand self-inserts written by Asukafags because their only interest is shipping, and Rei will still be the best girl, or "best girl" if you will.
The fact that you can only rely on fan-fiction or spinoffs with for all intents and purposes different characters for argumentation otherwise is what defeats you.
>>135102613
Rei got rekt in the original series, too.
Shinji abandoned her when he found out she was a clone and screamed when he saw her in EoE
>>135102504
>Alphas goes to the accepting oblivious doormat fantasy
>Betas go for the competitive fiery redhead
Anta baka
>>135102558
>moving the goalposts this hard
>>135102683
Yet, lo and behold, Rei did not abandon Shinji.
Nor did Rei cease being Rei, and nor did Rei come to a dead stop.
Unlike Asuka, who self-destructed, abandoned everyone several episodes prior, and was then abandoned also by Shinji, except as fap fodder.
Rei is the best girl.
>>135102470
What about when they kissed?
>>135102238
It actually killed herself, just like she died for nothing on Zeruel.
>>135102697
A doormat fantasy that wrecks you?
...or the bitch doormat asuka who is literally just a sex object by the end of the series, being jerked off to by the "disgusting" otaku symbol that is Shinji?
>>135102613
But you lost every single battle mang.
The spin-off is the official Gainax story of what-if, you lose again Reiman
>>135102823
>...
I think we're done here.
>>135102810
Rei didn't die against Zeruel.
>>135102751
>Rei did not abandon Shinji
No, she just made him shit his pants in fear like the monster she is.
>Nor did Rei cease being Rei
Yeah, okay.
>>135102842
There only ever was one battle, the battle of characters, of their stories.
Rei won that. A thousand years later, damage control by Gainax that puts one in a better light than the other won't change the outcome of the war.
The fact that you can only rely on fan-fiction or spinoffs with for all intents and purposes different characters for argumentation otherwise is what defeats you.
>>135096549
>REI REI REI REI REI
REI REI REI REI REI
>REI REI REI REI REI
REI REI REI REI REI
>REI REI REI REI REI
REI REI REI REI REI
>REI REI REI REI REI
REI REI REI REI REI
>REI REI REI REI REI
>>135102757
What about it? Asuka forced it on Shinji because she was feeling lonely, and then went back to sucking Kaji's dick in the next episode.
It's like it never happened.
Nonetheless, Shinji only sees one character in a romantic light, and this is consistent in the Anime, Manga, and Rebuild.
>>135102863
Rei II did. Question, reifag, which Rei is it that you like? Rei I? Rei II? Rei III? Rei Q? Any of the back-up Reis? There's so many. Not even human.
>>135102879
>No, she just made him shit his pants in fear like the monster she is.
Something a pathetic weakling like Asuka would never be able to, despite trying her hardest. Then Rei soothes Shinji, stabilizes him and gives the world, through the soothed Shinji's actions, a new chance.
>Yeah, okay.
Rei is more than just a little girl anon.
>>135096549
Let's put it to a vote
http://strawpoll.me/6340528
>>135102961
You mean Armisael. Not Zeruel.
You didn't even get that Rei I, II and III are the same character I bet. No wonder you like Asuka more, everything you know about Evangelion is one giant misunderstanding.
>>135102823
She can only wreck herself kek
Asuka put up a valiant defense while everyone was dead or crying.
>>135102961
Rei II died against Armisael, you dumb Asukafag.
Prior to that, she died by strangulation.
Yet Rei lives to be there when Asuka dies, yet lives to be there to revive Asuka.
Congratulations on not getting Evangelion or even having a coherent memory of it.
>>135103078
>Rei dies more than Asuka in the series
>Without Lillith, rei would be nothing
Like pottery.
>>135102908
I really am not anon, Asuka won anime and every other iteration, the spinoff is just salt on the wound. Rei faded into the wind like the good cuck she is.
>>135102983
>Then Rei soothes Shinji
By making him scream and be scared for his life?
How could you call that a good thing that she's freaking out the poor kid?
Rei is a fucking monster that died like the disgusting beast she is.
>>135103048
>valiant defense
You mean, like when she threw a tantrum and got raped by the MP-EVA's?
You mean, a "valiant defense" that is more thanks to Misato or EVA02 than Asuka? Christ, nothing Asuka did ever mattered. She was shit from start to end.
In the meantime, look at your pic. Rei, loses a limb, doens't flinch, regrows one, denies Gendo the hardest he's ever been denied in his life by another person, takes control of instrumentality, ruins SEELE's and Gendo's plans, makes it possible for humanity to return to human form while also doling out extreme mental therapy for the entire human race.
In the meantime asuka shrieked for her mommy and then died.
They don't even compare. Rei is a literal goddess in human form, asuka is nothing but a far, far ancestor of some of rei's sperm.
>>135103133
Rei is Lilith. There is no with or without, it's either is or isn't.
>all these salty reifags grasping at straws
The different Reis are different characters. They don't even realize it.
As is evident in 3.0.
Stay mad, Reiniggers.
Even Mari is better than shitty Reis.
>>135103142
What did Asuka win exactly? A consolation prize in the years after she lost to Rei and Shinji as characters?
A otaku escapist fantasy in the anime that criticizes such escapism?
Morally as far as Evangelion goes, objectively as far as Evangelion and the real world goes, Asuka lost.
>>135103208
Clearly there is for most of the series while Rei struggles with issue of identity. Way to miss a major point for your character, Reifag.
>>135103143
>omitting chunks of the story
This is why you lose, asucucks. Rei could have just scared Shinji for all I care, it's what she did versus what asuka didn't that matters.
Rei took responsibility, took charge, and succeeded in both her actions as well as in finding herself.
Asuka couldn't even reach up to Rei's ankles in that regard.
>>135103319
Way to not make a point at all.
Rei's identity was taken from her, and Rei found it in the end. That identity was Lilith.
>>135096549
>asuka
beta cvcks
>rei
alpha males with high test
>>135103337
>Reifags think scaring Shinji was a good thing
Jesus christ, you really are cancerous autistic fucks.
Just as cold, emotionless and monsterous as your non-human waifu.
>>135102945
>>135096549
>the only person that Shinji care in the entire series was Kaworu
>Same about the rebuilt , 3 was basically a Kaworu wank fest.
In 4 he is going to join Kaworu in the afterlife , and the end game is Asuka/Mari.
can't refute the facts
>>135103393
And could verily be considered without her identity, i.e Lillith.
>>135103319
Most of the characters struggle with identity issues, it's a staple of Evangelion.
However, Rei competently manages to make progress with her own over the course of the series, while Asuka only regresses.
Point to Rei.
Rei is waifu
Misato is fuck buddy
Asuka is girl you hang out with sometimes.
>>135103461
In the same way you can be considered without yours.
Much in the same way you can consider a formula without knowing numericals.
>>135103413
>hurr durr I'm retarded
Are you going to be mad at a surgeon for cutting a person as well?
Fucking retard, only a kaworufag is as dumb as you
>>135103264
She won:
1. Shinji's affection
2. Rising up to the occasion after being mindraped
3. At not being the amalgamation of creator's desires of fucking his mother
4. At being alive and breathing in the end
5. Having clearly defined character and not being a blank slate
If anything Rei is a hikikomori submission fantasy, do you not see the irony of your claims my fine man
>>135101001
>World Cups won by Germans: 1
>1
But that's wrong
>>135103461
How does that make sense? It's the absence of said identity and the quest to discover one self, that in the end leads to the answer.
>>135102504
>>135103411
nice samefag, doesn't make you any less wrong
>>135103481
>Only forward development is interesting
Without Lillith Rei wouldn't have developed at all.
>>135103614
It proves my point that Rei was without awareness of her identity as far as regards Lillith and by extension, was without Lillith.
I shouldn't have went into abstractions, I forgot all Reifags are autistic and only capable of dealing in literals.
>>135103432
This is the future of Evangelion.
Asuka is the badass hero.
Mari is her lesbian sidekick.
Rei is the big bad villain.
Misato and Gendo are literally whos.
Kaworu and Shinji exist to be background homos.
>>135102164
do you get it?
it's literally her blood on his hands
if he does not pilot the Eva he will LITERALLY have her blood on his hands
it's metaphorical too!
bravo.
>>135103584
>1. Shinji's affection
So did a lot of other people, and Shinji was last time seen choking Asuka.
Not impressed, and this alone isn't a victory either.
>2. Rising up to the occasion after being mindraped
Asuka never did this. She was carried to the occasion and after the mindrape, failed to rise to not just one, but two occasions, Armisael and Kaworu.
She failed.
>3. At not being the amalgamation of creator's desires of fucking his mother
How do you know she isn't?
>4. At being alive and breathing in the end
Thanks to Rei, and Rei is beyond being alive in the end, being godlike.
>5. Having clearly defined character and not being a blank slate
Asuka doesn't even have a proper character conclusions, Rei is a far more complete character than Asuka ever was.
>If anything Rei is a hikikomori submission fantasy,
I'd call that Asuka, who is the one lying down in the end being raped, whilst Rei defeats and scares the shit out of everyone by the end.
Asuka submitted, and as a reward, was used as a mastrubation tool for otaku and Shinji, while Rei prevailed and was rewarded by ascension to godhood.
do you not see the irony of your claims my fine man?
>>135103584
>Shinji's affection
Nope. Try again.
>>135103584
>1. Shinji's affection
that's why he didn't rescue her in EoE
he did't care about the kiss and Asuka was pissed because "he didn't hug her".
In the entire series Shinji never saw Asuka as more than a fap fodder
>>135103639
Without Lilith no one else would have developed because they literally wouldn't exist.
>>135103564
Rei's face looks like a surgeon's accident.
>Asukafags = beta faggots
>Reifags = beta faggots
>Misatofags = patricians who prefer a real woman
>>135103757
Without Lillith the show would have arguably been better.
>>135103788
see >>135102402
The only true best girl is Yui.
>>135103672
>It proves my point that Rei was without awareness of her identity as far as regards Lillith and by extension, was without Lillith.
No, your point is unproven due to the facts i pointed out in my post:
>It's the absence of said identity and the quest to discover one self, that in the end leads to the answer.
The absence of "Lilith" is in itself, the void that creates the character, the character cannot exist without Lilith and vice versa. I'm sorry that this simple concept wreaks havoc your even simpler brain.
Moreover, you must understand that the story in Evangelion develops linearly.
In other words, what a character becomes in the end is a product of it's development till then, also a point evangelion makes about personal development you might have missed since you're an asuka fan and therefore not intelligent enough to pick up on that.
So Asuka "in the end" also does not exist for Asuka in the beginning.
Your point is retarded m8.
>>135103863
>implying anyone is going to read your textwalls autistic Reifag
Is being frank something you're not able to do?
>>135103837
Like I said, without Lilith, there would be no characters and therefore no show.
You can stop being dumb now.
>>135103863
>m8
Yeah, I'm really not going to read this now. Did I just walk into fucking facebook? Christ.
>>135103863
Rei needs to have to rely on a literal deus ex machina (Lilith) to make her an actual 'complete' character.
That's pathetic.
>>135103889
>>135103915
Is being un-butthurt about how shit Asuka is compared to Rei something you're not able to do?
All leads point to yes.
>>135103907
Without Lilith, the show could just be about cute angels doing cute things.
>>135103863
I wouldn't bother mate, you do know that Asukafags are illiterate, right?
>>135103946
Way to concede.
>responding to the spastic textwalling Reifag
You faggots did this to yourselves, now he's going to samefag and spam the entire thread into shit.
>>135103907
But without Rei, the show would improve drastically. Anno even says her arc is done by Ep 6. She's trash.
>>135103936
Not true, for several reasons.
For one that's not a "deus ex machina", much less literal one. It's abundandlt foreshadowed, named and pictured before it happens, and is an ongoing part of the characters development until it is finally revealed.
Second, Rei's arc also moves towards individual completion in NGE, while EoE serves as it's extension.
Something that cannot be said for Asuka who meets no conclusion, or any other character besides Shinji really.
If we consider EoE or NGE, Rei has the advantage of having Lilith as a part of the character, rather as an external element as with for instance, Asuka.
Asuka cannot develop in the end because she is a failed, static character. This is why Asuka is only a plot device in the end, never developing but only being puppeteered by other elements or characters, such as Misato, Kyoko or Rei, who moves Asuka into place and develops her off-screen.
>>135103989
Not quite illiterate, just stupid unfortunately.
>>135104055
It would certainly be a lot less pretentious and cliche.
That Rei monologue from the recap episode was some of the most edgy shit I've ever seen in Anime.
Really the only true low point of the show was everytime Rei opened her mouth with that retarded existentialism 101 false-deep bullshit.
>>135104055
Without rei, there is no show regardless of what you or anyone else says.
Rei is for better in NGE, and for worse in spinoff, forced to be an integral part of the story even if the writers actually seek to write the character out.
>>135103733
Then why wasn't he at that primeval shore as his Steve? Merelty platonic, farn
>>135103719
>So did a lot of other people
but they didn't definitively like Asuka
>She failed.
A recklessly heroic act is still heroic, even in failure against overwhelming odds. Unlike the blatant godmode Dolly was gifted; it's not even courageous as courage requires fear and Rei is autistically fearless
>How do you know she isn't?
Because she's not the clone of the mother of the self-insert creator, obviously
>Thanks to Rei
You mean thanks to Shinji. Not like Rei had any say in the matter, it was her obligation for the deal with Lilith. An empty vessel again, heh
>No proper conclusion
She reconciles with Shinji ending on a hopeful note. Rei had no arc to begin with
>NOO ASUKA IS
Rei would've died without a word in her place, judging by her characterization. Godhood =/= lying dead in an ocean of blood.
You're just grasping at this point, accept the cold hard facts buddy
>>135104105
>>135104055
I'm sure the introspection dialogues in NGE made Asukafags uncomfortable and made them seek back to the comfort of fun, light-hearted MOTW action fanservice shows.
You might waltz back to your K-ON!'s now.
>>135103739
Didn't rescue her cause he got entangled in the initiation of Third Impact.
He never broke down like that for a different cause either, further sealing it
>Reifags insist Rei isn't a Deus Ex Machina but decry Asuka's fight in EoE as a shonenesque powerup
>They insist Asuka is a plot device while never daring to claim Rei is
>>135104105
I agree. The navel-gazing attempts at spewing elementary philosophy were really grating.
>>135104155
I'm sorry I'm not sorry I'm not an easily impressed teenager who thinks Existentialism 101 is the height of what philosophy has to offer and who indulges in shittily constructed poetry that relies on metaphor and even then it's stiff as fuck. Aquire taste you plebian fuck.
>>135104083
>also moves towards individual completion in NGE
How so? Her last line in the series is obeying Gendo's commands to go to the instrumentality project. Like a doll.
>or any other character besides Shinji really
>Touji didn't have a conclusion
>Kaji didn't have a conclusion
>Kaworu didn't have a conclusion
Yeah, no. Fuck off.
And Asuka's character was concluded just as much as Misato's in NGE, way more than Rei's.
>>135104132
Because he's forever in his heart senpai, representation of love itself.
But Shinji will be revealed to be the Eve to Kaworu's Adam in Rebuild, anyway.
>Merelty platonic
Nigga, Anno already said it's homoerotic and gay as fuck. Get over yourself or see >>135102945
>>135104132
>but they didn't definitively like Asuka
Shinji doesn't really care about Asuka and Asuka's projection in his mind calls him out on it.
No real love in choking anon.
>A recklessly heroic act is still heroic, even in failure against overwhelming odds.
There is nothing heroic in what Asuka's doing, she's carried to battle and put in a death-machine that is the real hero in the scene. Kyoko is the unsung hero here, not Asuka. Asuka just went with the motions and died.
>Unlike the blatant godmode Dolly was gifted;
Rei took said god mode, Asuka laid still and was gifted a tour in a berserk EVA until she died. Rei stood there, denied the ultimate boss in NGE, Gendo, and took her legacy and did what she pleased with it.
Asuka was carried, dolled, hyped and then killed like the puppet she was. Rei rose to godhood, taking it for herself.
>Because she's not the clone of the mother of the self-insert creator, obviously
Doesn't mean anything, obviously, since the author's incestuous fantasy is probably some tsundere bitch like asuka because his mother beat him for being an otaku.
>She reconciles with Shinji ending on a hopeful note. Rei had no arc to begin with
She doesn't reconcile with Shinji, nor does is her character actually involved save for being present in a scene. No development, no conclusion.
Rei had her arc up till and including EoE.
>Rei would've died without a word in her place, judging by her characterization.
Fanwanking are we? Nice. The reality is that Asuka died like a bitch, and Rei saved her. Soak it up.
>Godhood =/= lying dead in an ocean of blood.
Godhood like Rei's is being eternally present, beyond the moral coil. When Asuka is naught but a rotting corpse on a beach, Rei will still persist, like Obi-Wan at the end of Star Wars.
>>135104337
>Godhood like Rei's is being eternally present, beyond the moral coil. When Asuka is naught but a rotting corpse on a beach, Rei will still persist, like Obi-Wan at the end of Star Wars.
The shit that comes from a deranged Reifag's mouth.
>>135104223
>How so?
For one Rei has far more dialogue after said dialogue, but if we want to cut off there for the sake of seeing how weak your argument is:
Rei has her individual completion before that moment and therefore BEFORE instrumentality starts, therefore Rei's moment there is something she did in the real world, something spurred on by her own thoughts and development.
Not only that, Rei asserts something about herself and her existence, showing understanding that characters like Asuka never even get close to. Rei asserts herself by the end, Asuka just whines.
>Yeah, no. Fuck off.
No, you fuck off faggot, if you can't deal with the truth. These characters conclude because the end, because they cease being present.
Characters like Rei and Shinji not only just conclude, but have a conclusion with their character to come with. A final development, an understanding, you name it.
>And Asuka's character was concluded just as much as Misato's in NGE, way more than Rei's.
Verily, they were not. They were thoughts dancing in the instrumentality Rei created, and only Shinji's case is considered.
You might kick, cry, lie and bitch now 20 years later, but by the end of Evangelion Rei was a fine, outstanding character without a real peer anywhere else. Asuka didn't.
You can refer to your spinoffs where you get a consolation shipping prize, an otaku fantasy to cover up for the characters failure in the original, but it will only undermine your efforts to be taken seriously.
>>135104404
There's literally a scene at the end of NGE, and even in episode 1 where Rei appears pretty much like the star wars jedi's though.
Leave it to an Asukafag to not know the original, being drunk on the pandering the spinoffs gave him.
>>135100694
Who?
>>135104549
Holy shit so you're so oblivious.
>>135104223
The series never explains what happens besides instrumentality starting.
In both EoE and NGE, it starts, but the only time you see it start is when Rei wrecks Gendo.
Of course, in NGE Asuka is a non-character by then.
>>135104021
Just as foretold.
>>135104610
A shame because according to her very own creator, Rei was a non-character as early as Ep6.
>>135104223
>And Asuka's character was concluded just as much as Misato's in NGE,
This is true.
But this:
>way more than Rei's.
is clearly not true. Of the 'cases' considered in the final episodes, only Rei's case has a conclusion that is the product of her development, rather than a plot device. Then the nature of their conclusions for Rei shows progress and change of character, whilst Misato's and Asuka's only limit themselves to a character-recap.
I like Rei.
>>135104662
It only shows you how damaging otaku fanboyism is, for Anno to be butthurt still.
>>135104314
We'll see about that lad. I think you're wrong but it's to be decided yet.
>>135104337
>his selfish reasons
Choking because the representation of his view of Asuka rejected him in his own subconscious. He literally broke down crying after he realized the truth.
>there's nothing heroic
There's everything heroic about it, again, reckless but a noble sacrifice nonetheless. The intention is irrelevant to the act.
>Rei took said godmode.
She took it because it was her 2nd of two reasons to exist. Denied the boss, again, after remembering best girl Asuka's influential words. Rei didn't rise to anything, she was gifted
>since the author's incestuous fantasy is probably some tsundere bitch like asuka
No it pretty much means the opposite, given the fact his father obviously hated him and his mother was only respite
>Fanwanking
No fanwanking, going by characterization alone she would've died. Asuka died like a fighting spirit, stop denying the facts.
>Godhood like Rei's is being eternally present, beyond the moral coil. When Asuka is naught but a rotting corpse on a beach, Rei will still persist, like Obi-Wan at the end of Star Wars.
lmao
>>135104221
>Reifags insist Rei isn't a Deus Ex Machina but decry Asuka's fight in EoE as a shonenesque powerup
It's true though. Asuka is gifted said powerup just by virtue of existing, being lifted into EVA02 and waiting.
Rei goes through an entire series of self-discovery, and pro-actively chooses to unite with Lilith's body.
>They insist Asuka is a plot device while never daring to claim Rei is
Asuka is in EoE. She just exists to be pushed around, and doesn't develop or have any real impact save for those that serve as cheap plot movers, i.e dying so Shinji can scream.
>>135102376
fuck off
Post Rei
What a goddess.
>>135104783
>Choking because the representation of his view of Asuka rejected him in his own subconscious. He literally broke down crying after he realized the truth.
Which is fanwank, and not only that, still isn't conductive to affection.
You could just point out that he cried over Misato or was happy to see Kaworu and you're wrong anyway. Sorry!
>There's everything heroic about it, again, reckless but a noble sacrifice nonetheless. The intention is irrelevant to the act.
There is nothing heroic about it, first and foremost it's not her own act as much as the acts of others converging upon her. Misato, Rei, Shinji, they all brought Asuka there.
Reminder that Asuka could not move and was unconscious, and would have died in that late if not for Kyoko. There was nothing heroic about an action that was more others than hers.
>She took it because it was her 2nd of two reasons to exist. Denied the boss, again, after remembering best girl Asuka's influential words. Rei didn't rise to anything, she was gifted
Where in your sentence do you describe being "gifted" something? Nowhere, that's where. Rei took it by her own actions, her own hands, and that's why she wins and Asuka loses.
Rei thought about this, meditated, and finally acted.
>No it pretty much means the opposite, given the fact his father obviously hated him and his mother was only respite
Where is this fact described? Nowhere? Hm, who cares then. I dont care about your behind-the-scenes fanwank, which even if true, would not stop Rei from being best girl.
>No fanwanking, going by characterization alone she would've died. Asuka died like a fighting spirit, stop denying the facts.
It's fanwanking, because as you said, by characterization alone she would've died. Her characterization was that of a failure, and likewise her development. Hence the powerup she gets is the only reason, not her characterization.
>lmao
ayy
Truly the best of girls.
>>135104783
If Asuka had sat in her room, decided to get up of her own will, and not just lied there being jerked off to, you'd have a point.
Instead Misato ordered her unconscious body moved into EVA02, and then asuka just lay there. Doing nothing but feel sorry for herself.
Until EVA02 awakens and gives Asuka a cheap "powerup" that ends just as quick as it started.
Shinji had gone through much worse, and he was still walking around, even if soundly defeated.
Rei had gone down to the underworld and returned not only once, but twice, and she was still walking around.
Shinji climbed into the EVAeventually, and Rei climbed into Lilith of her own will.
Both of them rank higher than Asuka who just literally did nothing but suck the entire fucking time, lying still doing nothing. At least the other two were walking, talking, doing. That's will and effort, not Asuka "I'll lie down until my mother comes back from the dead for me because IM SPESHUL".
Man Asuka is so fucking shit. She only died so she could scare Shinji you know, to fuck him up even more. Even her whole fight was a plot device.
>>135100473
does choking a bitch count for asuka
>>135104837
>Asuka is gifted said powerup just by virtue of existing
And Rei isn't? Way to completely pitch under the rug Kyoko's involvement.
>Rei goes through an entire series of self-discovery
Actually she gets dropped like hot garbo after ep6.
>She just exists to be pushed around, and doesn't develop or have any real impact save for those that serve as cheap plot movers, i.e dying so Shinji can scream.
Weak bait. Looks like someone doesn't understand her character at all. Sasuga.
>>135105043
>Which is fanwank, and not only that, still isn't conductive to affection.
I didn't see them have an extended dream sequence since they were quite definitively less important to him. Misato was too much like a mother, Kaworu was a guardian angel and Rei was the weird emotionless clone he was afraid of and reminded him of a mother every step of the way.
>There isn't anything heroic: 3rd ignition
For the last time yes there is. If you're gonna circle around the leading up the act itself you're missing the point once again: the intent is meaningless to the deed; which is almost preventing oblivion which she could have possibly done if she had assistance from agenda dolly over there.
>Where in your sentence do you describe being "gifted" something? Nowhere, that's where. Rei took it by her own actions, her own hands, and that's why she wins and Asuka loses.
Rei thought about this, meditated, and finally acted.
As in made for this very purpose and literally hand-holded to Lilith
>Where is this fact described? Nowhere? Hm, who cares then
It's not even behind the scenes, it's the integral part of that plot thread. Hell it's even blatantly obvious his mother is his armor, literally. I'm so very sorry.
>It's fanwanking, because as you said, by characterization alone she would've died. Her characterization was that of a failure, and likewise her development.
Nope, she obviously prevailed. Rei, on the other hand, would've died since that's her attitude, the failed clone which failed its own purpose
>ayy
memes don't redeem speculative insanity dude
>>135105675
>And Rei isn't?
Nope.
>Actually she gets dropped like hot garbo after ep6.
Nope.
>Weak bait. Looks like someone doesn't understand her character at all. Sasuga.
>no argument
Butthurt Asukfag.
>>135105766
>this completely dismantled Reifag
>>135105253
Both of them condemned the world to ruin, one unknowingly with the worst girl knowing all the way, something terribly evil to begin with.
Rei is nothing but a catalyst for genocide. Asuka is the unsung hero of humanity.
>>135105688
>I didn't see them have an extended dream sequence
Most of them did in fact with the real persons in question.
Then they had real moments in the real world, such as Misato's and Kaworu's.
>For the last time yes there is
No, there isn't, and I argued why there isn't in my last post. You addressed none of it and just denied the facts, and that means you're wrong.
I'm sorry but if you're just gong to insist without argumentation, you lose.
>It's not even behind the scenes,
Again, where is this fact described? I'm sorry Anon, but Anno didn't even come up with the idea of the mother existing inside the EVA. That was Sadamoto.
You don't know shit anon, explains why you don't accept Rei as the best.
>As in made for this very purpose and literally hand-holded to Lilith
No hand-holding, and going to Lilith took Rei meditation and even to deny Gendo.
>Nope, she obviously prevailed. Rei, on the other hand, would've died since that's her attitude, the failed clone which failed its own purpose
More fanwank? You already shut down your own argument in your last post by admitting that by her characterization alone she would have died, and let me quote you:
>going by characterization alone she would've died.
You're done.
>memes don't redeem speculative insanity dude
he he, memeposting 'lmao' only gives you an ayy in return, loser.
>>135100398
>>135100539
Best taste.
>>135100398
I agree
>>135105853
Asuka condemned the world to ruin in NGE when she was unable to help Rei or Shinji in their later battles.
She is unsung for a reason, she's not a hero, just a scared child and nothing more.
Neither Rei or Shinji condemned the world to ruin. Without Shinji, there would have been an impact initiated by SEELE. Without Rei, there would have been an impact initiated by SEELE.
Take notice of how the impact has already begun before Rei enters Lilith. Reclaiming Lilith only allows mankind a choice, and that was delivered as promised.
Rather than the eternal, stagnant world wished by the other parties, it was now possible for both to exist and the world be reborn.
Every soul SEELE and Gendo had damned to oblivion by initiating the First Impact, which count at least 3 billion making up half of the worlds population, are now redeemed and eligble for return thanks to their actions.
All things considered, it was a good outcome.
If you want more, why not ask for a blowjob from Anno to come with every movie ticket complete with a happy hand-holding ending that segues off into "All Star" by Smash Mouth?
Clapping and guitar in the original should do for you plebs.
>>135105688
Rei has the longest instrumentality scene that also features Rei, not a projection of Rei. In addition, Kaworu is also there.
With Asuka, she doesn't seem to be quite tang yet, so it's more a pseudo-projection if anything, and even then, the affection is correctly called out as false.
Misato didn't get one unfortunately, but she gets badass scenes where she saves Shinji early in the movie, and also Shinji cries over her death. It's dumb to say Shinji had no affections for Misato.
Asukafags like yourself should just die. All you care about is shipping bullshit and it's people like you that make for a toxic eva fanbase. The original Evangelion is a lot more than your personal jerk-off fantasy, the real evangelion actually calls out shitty Asukafags for being fucked up individuals who jacks off to bitchy cartoon redheads who can't hurt them. Asuka thinks you're disgusting.
ASUKAFAGS: KIMOCHI WARUI
>>135105921
>missing the point
Not nearly as long or important to the narrative as the extended best girl sequences. The former only enhances the latter.
>You addressed none of it and just denied the facts, and that means you're wrong.
Yeah I did, twice, l2read
>Again, where is this fact described? I'm sorry Anon, but Anno didn't even come up with the idea of the mother existing inside the EVA. That was Sadamoto.
Which in turn fits that particular narrative, which isn't reliant on the mother being EVA at a base level. It enhances it, sure, but isn't mandatory. Point being, it's very clearly reflected on Shinji if not directly stated just like his love for Asuka between the lines and Rei being the worst fucking girl ever.
>No hand-holding, and going to Lilith took Rei meditation and even to deny Gendo.
Sparked by the best girl. The only shred of that rebellious personality is Asuka, thank the heavens for her. Rei owes her everything it seems.
>More fanwank? You already shut down your own argument in your last post by admitting that by her characterization alone she would have died, and let me quote you:
You seem to misunderstand what you read, so I'll make it blatantly clear:
Rei would've died like the punchbag she is
Asuka's bestness hit a chord with Shinji obviously and she prevailed. You misunderstand her characterization in the worst girl ways.
>posting 'lmao' only gives you an ayy in return, loser.
Not when reading retardation which you've were called out on elsewhere, fuccboi
>>135106501
>Not nearly as long
Longer in fact, and far more important to theme and narration, so much in fact that it addresses it directly.
You lose anyway because you claimed they didn't have any. Sorry Asukafag, but you've got to admit you're wrong.
>Yeah I did, twice, l2read
Sorry, loss for you, no rebuttal.
>Which in turn fits that particular narrative,
Halt, your argument got proven wrong and you need to accept that first. That he came up with it because of the reasons you said, was wrong. You don't get to backtrack.
>Sparked by the best girl. The only shred of that rebellious personality is Asuka, thank the heavens for her. Rei owes her everything it seems.
Except Rei has been pondering, thinking and meditating this long since that moment, Rei already knew the answer before that.
Sorry anon, but your reaching fails you even here.
>Rei would've died like the punchbag she is
More fanwank. Reminder that Asuka died like the personification of a onahole she is, an outlet for Shinji's masturbatory fantasy, and later she was used by the MP-EVA's, representing the disgusting otaku such as yourselves. It is referred to as a "rape" by the staff.
You can't fanwank to avoid the truth, Asuka died there. Rei was down in the basement getting Lilith and kicking Gendo's ass. Sweet, canonical truth.
Getting raped by a bunch of people like Asuka did != prevailing.
Getting saved by Rei != prevailing.
>Not when reading retardation which you've were called out on elsewhere, fuccboi
You just mad you getting styled on Asuakfag.
The canon shits on you. Every time.
I prefer Kaworu so I don't have to take part in the Asuka/Rei shit-flinging wars.
>>135106501
>fanwank
>fanwank
>fanwank
>refusal to address what actually happened in NGE/EoE in favor of his own WHAT IF fanwank
Asukafag delusion, one hell of a drug.
holy shit why is it that every eva thread devolves into paragraphs about why the rebuilds are trash or which waifu is best
is there really nothing more interesting to talk about?
>>135106771
Congratulations on picking the option that makes you worse than both of them combined.
>>135106860
This is what Evangelion is now. It is what Anno wanted it to be. There is no room for anything else.
>>135106227
A scene which isn't hers in the first place and would've happened with any other character? How cucked can you get?
The projection of Asuka is Shinji's viewpoint of her, once more. You really suck at this don't you?
Reading comprehension my man, he did garner affection for Misato as with others but not in the same way or intensity as best girl.
rest is spiteful irrational butthurt in face of clear evidence :^)
>>135106079
The world wasn't condemned by her doing but by worst girl's transformation. You can't blame a true hero for trying the cancel the apocalypse.
They could've prevented it, instead they caved in to their worse side. Can't blame Shinji though, witnessing best girl die heroically must be the saddest thing in the world.
It's not their choice to make or break the extinction of the human race for whatever reason especially highschool edginess, the whole point behind Rebuild 3.0 is this.
Not talking about the ending or the point of it senpai, were talking who best girl which is Anno approved Asuka. You're way out of your depth.
>>135106956
>A scene which isn't hers in the first place and would've happened with any other character? How cucked can you get?
So it could have happened with any other character, huh?
Too bad it didn't, cuckerino.
>the rest
Enjoy being a faggot cancerous shipper retard. Bye!
>>135106803
You mean facts stemming from analysis and examination of scenes and their intent? Unlike your "le godhood ascending blank slate Obi-Wan ghost doll" fanwank for the last 10 replies?
Never change, Reifag. Asuka is literally 2deep4u so you have to compromise with trash like worst girl
>>135107121
No I mean butthurt asukfag fanwank that rejects the canon, like all of your posts.
>>135107071
Which tells volumes on how "important" Rei was in anything, you could've replaced her with a literal Jane Doe and have the same effect, top kek.
>being an assblasted quitter
Asuka proved as best girl
>>135106771
>I prefer Kaworu
Go to bed, Shinji
>>135106956
>The world wasn't condemned by her doing but by worst girl's transformation.
Asuka condemned the world once she gave up on life in NGE and would rather see the world destroyed than actually having to give up piloting.
Asuka already lost in the series, Asukafagget. Rei and Shinji prevailed.
>You can't blame a true hero for trying the cancel the apocalypse.
Rei is the one that actually canceled the apocalypse through interfering with it.
Reminder that Asuka doesn't even know about any apocalypse. That's right, Asuka died without even knowing about Third Impact, the Human Instrumentality Project, or that it even was a thing that could happen.
>It's not their choice to make or break the extinction of the human race for whatever reason especially highschool edginess, the whole point behind Rebuild 3.0 is this.
Now you're being illogical. Allegedly Asuka can 'save the world' (but didn't), but she can't stop it anyhow?
You're delusional. Rebuild 3.0 is not the original, and is for the record, full of shit. Unless you're admitting to be full of shit that is. We refer to the original Evangelion, the only complete story thus far in the saga, and in that story, Asuka fails.
>Not talking about the ending or the point of it senpai, were talking who best girl which is Anno approved Asuka. You're way out of your depth.
Ah, the simple-minded Asukafag. Asuka is best because Anno likes her the most. You would make a fine cultist.
asuka > rei
>>135107152
Nah you're pretty much blind to the truth m8. Rei is a faceless doormat and my replies proved it while elevating best girl to new heights.
>>135107303
Keep lying to yourself, then.
>>135107263
No buddy, Rei died and Asuka came back is now omnipresently observing her eternal cucking. At her own behest, even.
Sad to be honest.
>Rei is the one that actually canceled the apocalypse through interfering with it.
No she pretty much realized it one way rather the other. Kiss your life goodbye if Rei's around anyway.
Which makes Asuka's noble fight even more legendary.
>Now you're being illogical. Allegedly Asuka can 'save the world' (but didn't), but she can't stop it anyhow?
She was on the verge of stopping it until the Spear of Longinus. If Shinji and Rei joined the fight the tide could have turned, as the fight quite clearly indicates. To bad she was busy being a puppet.
Eva 3.0 is shit but illustrates a point that humanity doesn't necessarily agree with their annihilation by the promise of being better in some next life and some gnostic goal; Asuka once again on the side of rational good guys
>Ah, the simple-minded Asukafag. Asuka is best because Anno likes her the most. You would make a fine cultist.
comprehension is not your strong suit
>>135106956
You didn't watch EoE, or you'd known that impact has already started before Rei returns to Lilith.
If Rei hadn't done that, then we'd start the impact and everyone would be tang, without any chance to come back. Rei intervening at that point and enabling a choice in the matter is what actually saves mankind and for now, guarantees it's further existence.
Then look at the original series first. When Asuka throws a tantrum at Arael, she condemns humanity by refusing to stand up for it.
Rei saves her this time.
Then the next time, Asuka again shits on humanity for not even being able to help the others two since she's too absorbed in her own self-pity. Rei takes one for the team this time. Of course Asuka again abandons humanity in the original when she gives up and life and tries to kill herself.
In the meantime Shinji and Rei are still living, even fighting. When Asuka fights in EoE, it's only because of the others and EVA02, not herself since she just laid still.
So Shinji's choice and Rei's transformation is what makes it possible to reverse instrumentality. In fact Asuka only makes it WORSE by fighting since she loses so hard it shocks Shinji and destabilizes him. It would literally be better and safer for mankind if Misato didn't throw Asuka inside EVA02.
I personally don't blame the children for what is the work of less than well-intentioned adults. But Asukafags and their shallow mindset and fandom piss me off. It goes months inbetween the times I see a decent Asukafag. Months!
If we were to condemn Asuka as hard as Asukafags condemn Shinji, Rei or Misato, then it will soon become clear that Asuka is the most disgusting substance in the entire EVA universe.
>>135107674
>pure fanwank
>relying on 3.0 to back up points about NGE
Just admitted you lost there man.
>>135107352
But you're the one doing it. I proved you wrong and dispelled your wrongful delusions. Your goddess is a false one, and for that I'm very sorry.
>>135107674
>asuka is now omnipresent despite being a regular dumb girl
>asuka knew all about instrumentality all along despite never ever thinking about or uttering a sentence about it
>asuka was close to stopping instrumentality despite being rekt by the MP-EVA's
I take it this is your weird way of admitting you lost? Good show though Asukafag, good job showing everyone insane enough to read this shit thread how out of touch Asukfags are and how much they hate the real asuka for not being their own masturbatory fantasy.
At least you get a "re-do" in the spinoffs with shikinami, right?
>Normalfag
Misato
>Fedora
Rei
>Patrician
Asuka
>>135107720
>le fanwank
reifags, they're naturally dumb
>>135096923
>rebuilds
Times Shinji loved
Asuka:0
Rei:0
Kaworu:1
>>135103701
Except I don't think the idiom 'to have (someone's) blood on one's hands' works in Japanese, which is what the creators would have spoken.
>>135107679
>Asuka is the most disgusting substance in the entire EVA universe.
I thought you said that was Kaworu.
Or are you just in an Asuka-hating mood tonight and completely forgot about your nonsensical rage towards my husbando?
>>135104889
>filename
>>135096549
Who won the Shinji Bowl
>People with common sence
Kaworu
>People that enjoy straws
Asuka , Rei , Misato
Asukafags confirmed for delusional.
>>135108011
reifags confirmed for butthurt cancer
>>135107989
>what is hyperbole
>>135108050
Nigga, you're an Asuka-basher one day and then a Kaworu-basher the next.
Even a Misato and Shinji-basher on occasion.
You'll try to viciously insult any character who isn't Rei to make her look 'better'.
It's just pathetic.
>>135107989
I didn't mention Kaworu in that entire post, are you trying to start something or what?
For the record, since you missed what was clearly deliberate exaggeration, it means that I believe Asukafags by far exaggerate their criticisms of other characters, mainly Rei, Shinji and Misato. This extends to even lying about the characters and making up non-canonical evidence, and inserting off-screen events that aren't citable to prove their point.
My point is thus that if we treat Asuka in the same way, she'll come out far, far worse than those three. In my post I limited myself to adopting an uncompromising stance towards these characters, and I could have gone much farther by adding in lies as well.
As for Kaworu, he's far from a saint. Not a good person by any means.
