>War setting
>MC willingly goes to war
>Complains about killing people
>>134959739
>War setting
>MC willingly goes to war
>Slaughters people in an autistic edgelord powertrip fantasy
>Anime gets popular
>/a/ now hates it
>>134959739
>>134960065
I guess you could at least agree on War setting sucking.
People going to war have the right to complain about whatever the fuck they want.
>>134960195
Don't sign up for shit if you're gonna bitch about it.
>>134960249
Why are you on /a/, then?
>>134960249
What if they were pushed into signing?
>war setting
>mc acts like a professional and puts the survival of his comrades over the death of his enemies
>>134960183
/a/ is anti normalfag. Nothing new.
>>134960249
How can one person be this ignorant? Not that I really expect any different from manchildren who post /v/ tier greentext threads.
>war setting
>people gain psychic poweres because of the war
There was a time where these threads were (at least sometimes) deleted.
>>134960530
Doesn't mean it's not retarded. Why blame the anime for the fanbase?
>>134960628
But he's right. People know that war is ugly.
>War setting
>a friends dies
>"Oh no! How could this possibly have happened?"
>war setting
>MC kills a lot of people
>no name no face allied soldier is killed
>everyone drops their shit and bawwww fest
>War setting
>Situation where one or few of MC's team mates offers to stay back and provide him and the rest of the group cover and time so MC and rest of the group can all escape but the few staying behind
>MC has no other option but still acts retarded by hur dur no one gets left behind
![[HorribleSubs] Shirobako - 14 [720p].mkv_snapshot_11.12_[2015.01.15_18.59.30].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3QBo1kV.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Shirobako - 14 [720p].mkv_snapshot_11.12_[2015.01.15_18.59.30].jpg")
>>134959739
>war setting
>1st world nation recruits literal teenagers into the military
>everybody is magically okay with 14 and 15 year olds being trained to kill people and put on the front line of combat.
>>134960638
>War setting
>War spawn because people started developing psychic powers.
>>134960759
because hivemind plagues this site like there's no tomorrow
>>134960759
Because pretending you don't like something chases away the people that do. If what you dislike is the fanbase, then dumping on the show is the best way to keep the fanbase you don't like away.
>>134961622
I'd doesn't really work that way. Look at Umaru threads for example.
>>134960183
I miss the OPM web comic threads.
>War setting
>None of the main characters die
What's the fucking point?
>>134961795
That's just a forced meme that's been spammed since the show aired. The perennial shitposters were looking for a target that season and settled on umaru, and now they just circle back to it whenever their OPM powerlevel thread 404's. Dedicated shitposters and offsite newfags are different sorts of cancer. You can discourage the latter, or at very least contain them by shitposting their favourite show into oblivion. There's really nothing to be done about the former. If you report their posts and they get banned, they just reset their phone and keep going day after day, season after season, year after year. We just end up needing to wait until they outgrow obsessively spamming garbage on the board and move on to /vg/ or some other chan.
>>134960183
Which is amusing, since /a/ was created around when anime was still in a relative high of popularity.
>>134961184
That's actually accurate though
Just because we're so overpowered that we can survive by having all-volunteer armies doesn't mean that we wouldn't immediately go back to drafting teenagers if the situation got bad enough
>browsing the catalog
>see a thread
>OP is just a reaction image and petty complaint
Anyone else hate this?
>>134962226
>Someone complains about a thread
>Bumps the thread
Anyone else hate this?
>>134962218
>back to
North America, at least, hasn't drafted teenagers for 2 centuries. Drafts are always 18+ and those that get in underaged do so by lying about it in order to volunteer themselves. For the past couple centuries, the only armies that have been emplying child soldiers are the ones run by dictators and oppressive military regimes. I don't really see civilization regressing a couple hundred years all of a sudden because of some conflict or another.
>>134962395
>For the past couple centuries, the only armies that have been emplying child soldiers are the ones run by dictators and oppressive military regimes
Demonstrably false
You know Great Britain turned a blind eye to 14 year olds serving in both wars, right?
If the enemy is knocking on your door you don't just suddenly give up when there's no more 18 year olds, it gets pushed to 17, then 16, and so on.
>>134959739
>war setting
>he does not want to go to the war but he goes because is his duty
>fights every day
>returns alive to fuck his waifu
>>134962590
>kid lies about their age
>gets let in
This happened, but it's very, very different from drafting children or systematically recruiting children as those there's nothing wrong with it. One is simply recruiters and the military being lax with its restrictions, the other is deliberately recruiting (or forcing recruitment upon) children.
>>134962395
That's probably because america didn't have a war on its own soil for almost two centuries.
When shit hits the fan, you better start scraping that bottom of the manpower barrel .
>>134962003
We all miss the webcomic threads, because they come every blue moon
![[HorribleSubs] Young Black Jack - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.33_[2015.10.24_14.50.03].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HJGHMFx.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Young Black Jack - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.33_[2015.10.24_14.50.03].jpg")
>Vietnam war setting
>MC goes to warzone to be a surgeon for war victims
>no CCR on the soundtrack
>>134960183
I don't hate anything just cause it's popular, but I despise what the threads become like.
>>134959739
>war setting
>mc sits around playing a trumpet and accidentally triggering PTSD in the veterans
>then a political marriage somehow saves the day as two armies stare each other down but stop short of any real fighting
>War setting
>Giant robots are used to fight because why the fuck not
>Giant robots use swords because why the fuck not
>IN SPACE!
>Emotionally teenagers are the only ones capable of using them
>They also come up with better plans on the fly than their adult superiors who have been in the military their whole lives
>Either go full edge lord or full faggot
War settings and giant robots are gay.
>>134964949
Giant humanoid robots are idiotic in general. Tanks are superior in almost every way. Or space ships.
>War setting
>characters are in a high school setting including harems and tournaments while the rest of the world burns.
>>134965059
>tanks
Or, you know, aircraft.
>>134964949
>War setting
>Giant robots are used to fight because why the fuck not
> Edgelord teenager faggot use a different type of robot
> Rekt every millitary generals who have overpowered robot
fuck aldnoah
>>134965324
Yeah exactly.
>war setting
>everyone is in highest spirits for some reason
>no one cares when people die
>War setting
>Absolutely nobody of the main cast wear the military uniform properly.
>>134965348
>instead of some highly experienced soldiers teenagers are pilots, because of course teenagers are known for their mental stability and years of experience.
>>134965698
Kinda like actual deployed servicemen?
12 months in the sands away from regular inspections, everyone eventually just stops giving a fuck. It's war, not a parade.
So...Gundam?
>>134965495
>not having only the endsieg in your mind
>>134965747
Inexperienced teenagers are easier to replace.
Try finding a surplus of high-ranking officials with decades of experience. There's a reason generals are literally not allowed to fight in actual combat.
>>134966109
yeah its probably the best bet to put an angsty teen into a extremely expensive superrobot with weapons powerful enough to delete cities or anything bigger, but hey everybodu believes in this teenager, and that is enough :^)
>>134961622
You know this never works and only attracts shitposters
argevollen was gr8 on the actual war side
>>134964949
Well, you gotta sell toys. Around the time when Gundam was spawning, GI Joe was transitioning from generic military guys and adventuring Doc Savage-types to REAL AMERICAN HERO with ninjas and shit fighting Cobra.
Then again not much you can do about Japan wanting their teen MCs.
>>134966109
Nobody's asking for some colonel in their 40s to be piloting a mech, but even when officers were getting promoted at insane rates during WW2 they still were at least in their 20s and had a few years of experience with the military.
You'd want the guy using your giant multi-million dollar piece of equipment that can fly or at least level cities to be someone you can put in a position of authority.
>>134966255
most the angsty teens end up saving the world anyway :^)
>>134961175
The one Japanese cartoon where that cliche doesn't happen is this one. When one of the admirals on the Reich side volunteers to hold off the enemy so his Kaiser can escape from an ambush, there is no bullshit about the power of friendship or any such nonsense. Lutz stays and fights to the death, and Kaiser Reinhard honors his memory and posthumously promotes him to Fleet Admiral.
>>134966471
yeah, somehow they do, and thsi is why most of this genre is total shit.
But the power of friendship tops everything.
>>134966471
The average grunt soldier is really nothing more than an angsty teen who's been taught how to wield an assault rifle.
>>134966525
>the power of friendship tops everything
>in Gundam
The Red Comet has something to say to you.
>>134966255
It's a cultural thing honestly.
In WWII, when Japan had its back to the wall, they were pretty much out of experienced pilots.
So they would take the greenest motherfuckers they could find, fill their planes with enough fuel for one trip, and order them to aim for the bridge.
Suicidal teens behind the controls of the greatest technology of the time was an ACTUAL THING that ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
>>134966644
I said this as how it pisses me off with the "tops everything".
>war setting
>main character is bloodthirsty and doesn't accept surrender, gunning down bailed-out pilots in their parachutes
>ends with karmic retribution as the MC is thrown from his plane and gunned down by an enemy pilot due to the stereotype he helped perpetuate
Feels good man.
>>134965059
Spaceships are silly, too.
What's even the point in having giant soft-shelled targets floating in space as 'combat' vehicles? What's the point in using pilots to operate strike craft (mecha-shaped or otherwise) when they could just be remote controlled droned instead? Hell, why involve human operators or extra functions at all when you could just have drone carriers deploy drone weapons platforms to launch fire&forget ordinance before being recalled and moving on?
Missiles in space don't have the same limitations as terrestrial ones. Most combat should, theoretically, be happening thousands of kilometers apart as drones launch guided, rocket-propelled warheads at radar blips. The tech to actually build and operate space ships implies so many other technologies that it's rather absurd for space warfare to play out like it's WW1/2 naval combat.
>>134967176
Well, let's be fair, there's a point where realistic tactics for the level of technology have to go out the door because WW2 naval combat looks better in any visual medium.
Ships within fuck you distance, planes taking off from carriers to bomb shit and dog fight all around the battle field, big naval formations.
>>134967176
This desu.
Space warships will either be honeycomb of missile silos, or giant floating railguns
>>134967176
>Setting has to include bullshit psuedoscience excuse for lack of long range sensors or weapons
>muh minovsky particles
>War setting
>It ain't me starts playing
>>134967176
Even with our current technology, we can land probes on tiny rocks moving at insane speeds millions of kilometers away.
Rule-of-cool is a powerful force.
![[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.33_[2015.11.08_22.36.19].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xf0sTih.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.33_[2015.11.08_22.36.19].jpg")
>>134967513
>war setting criticizing post-colonial nationalism
>Raise your flag starts playing
>>134967707
is that show worth a watch?
>>134967753
Do you like generic mecha space operas written by Mari Okada?
>>134967776
I prefer ground based mech melodrama, but yeah why not.
>War setting
>MC willingly goes to war
>Gains powers from war
>Becomes an edgelord infamous ripoff.
>modern society opens portal to magic world after being attacked by said magic world
>immediately tries to friendship people
>not bombing/freeing the shit out of them and relieving them of their mineral wealth
I just want an anime where modern tech curbstomps some elves. Is that too much to ask?
>>134967937
GATE
>>134967937
GATE had that kind of setting. They blew the shit out of the corrupt and befriended the innocent.
>>134967982
It has an anime now? Last I saw of it it was forever untranslated and I cant read moon yet
>Pre-War setting
>The planet is separated into 3-5 unions for shit reasons
>>134962226
These threads are basically ripped straight from /v/, but they'be been done for long enough now that people will get pissy if you call them out on it.
>>134968046
It had a anime for a while now. It's getting a season 2 some time in spring 2016.
>>134968046
Yeah, it even got a S2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWKjGbY7rVY
>>134968085
Must go binge then thanks.
>4chan setting
>Anon willingly goes in a thread
>Complains that OP is a faggot
>>134968120
No problem. We must show our fellow /a/nons that modern tech > magic.
>War setting
>Female civilians saved aren't raped by the soldiers
>War setting
>one of the main characters die
>people complaine and dropped series
What's the fucking point?
>>134968153
>Anon willingly goes to a autistic 4chan thread
>complains about autistic faggots hating on OP.
>war setting
>everyone dies
>>134968050
Except that's basically what it's like right now.
Some of them are together for different reasons and there's certainly no real balance of power between them (eg. NATO vs OPEC vs.whatever that Brazilian union was supposed to be), but they exist. Lines of political power in the world are drawn by major military and economic alliances and most all of them involve some kind of collective reduction of sovereignty in exchange for close interrelationship.
>>134968199
You're forgetting the Japs aren't allowed to mention that.
>>134968289
MuvLuv.jpg
>>134963271
Nice pic
>>134968046
>>134968085
>>134968113
Also, the LN translation has started.
http://skythewood.blogspot.sg/p/gate-thus-jsdf-fought-there-author.html
>>134968317
Oh, yeah, now all those H-OVAs about an armed force moving in and systematically raping and enslaving all the women just seem distasteful.
More so, anyway.
>>134968349
based sky saving the day
>war setting
>Standard war like scenario, no good or evil bullshit. Just ideal's clashing.
>MC is killing people left and right without a care.
>Suddenly a friend dies.
>"I will NEVER forgive them!"
>Setting is now portraying the enemy as some baby stomping mustache twirling asshole every scene that they appear.
>Harem.
>MC has girls trying to fuck his brains out.
>is a total faggot and pussies out.
>Dies a virgin.
![[EG]Mobile_Suit_Gundam_31_BD_V2(720p_10bit)[90DD0DA0].mkv_snapshot_20.35_[2015.08.10_00.39.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QVQtIn5.jpg "[EG]Mobile_Suit_Gundam_31_BD_V2(720p_10bit)[90DD0DA0].mkv_snapshot_20.35_[2015.08.10_00.39.02].jpg")
>>134959739
That's why Amuro "Aims for the Cockpit" Ray is the best pilot.
>>134968349
>>134968159
>>134968113
You guys have made my day. Thank you. I enjoyed that helicopter run much more than I should have.
>War setting
>There are many hot female generals with bs magic powers
>War setting
>Japan is winning
>>134968437
There's just something primal on overkilling the enemy
That feel of esctasy of crushing the enemy.
>War setting
>"Bad guy's" have plan that will make world peace. Unfortunately it requires sacrifice.
>Main character does not want people to die for their plan. Even though if the world is at peace no one would ever die again.
>Bad guy's loose
>The "hero" ruined world peace to prevent the sacrifice of a few worthless scrubs.
>1000 years later more people die from hunger and war then the amount of people that would have been sacrificed.
>>134967937
Gate kinda has this but its mind numbingly boring after the first few episodes.
>>134968289
>War setting
>everyone but the MC dies
>Mecha setting
>It seems interesting
>Then orphans
>>134968704
I want to rip up his scar
>>134968704
That black kid looks drunk as fuck.
>War setting
>Countries don't go bankrupt
>>134969464
Well, that's fairly realistic. Wartimes do miracles for a lot of sectors of internal economy, from food to commodities.
>>134969464
Not really.
>government wants lots of baby-killing jet planes
>government money goes to a domestic defense contractor to make jet planes
>domestic defense contractor pays taxes on their revenue
>domestic defense contractor pays their proud, white, non-foreign engineering employees who are all upstanding members of society with two Phds each.
>employees pay taxes on their income
>employee buys house/car/food/anything
>they pay property tax, sales tax, everything tax
>unspent money is either personally invested or put into a bank to be invested by the goblins
This is why any country that relies on foreign war industry is a fucking cuck.
>>134963685
Do the japs not enjoy the Vietnam war like westerners do? that arc was constantly trying to make it look like everyone hated it, yet over here it's considered a pretty fun war with great music.
>>134960290
Then they didn't join willingly
>>134970968
Are you talking about the American soldiers, or the Japanese population in-story?
Remember that a constant part of the show were protesters. The first episode opened with a protest, and the last episode involved a protest and what was presumably a communist militia.
The relationship between the Japan and the US has always been kind of tenuous, especially during Vietnam when there was worry it might escalate and Japan would get dragged into a third world war with the communists.
>>134959739
Happens IRL.
It's against human nature to kill other humans. People get out there and find that they just can't pull the trigger when they're looking a man in the face. Something cooked up by our complex human minds needs to override that instinct, whether it's training, anger, indoctrination into a belief that the enemy is less than human, desperateness, detachment, etc.
Even when they do pull the trigger, some people get traumatized by the memory.
>>134968669
I was rooting for the destiny project, but alas...
>war setting
>army uses bows to shoot down highly advanced military attack helicopters
>it works.
>>134964949
Imagine if there was a 30-something major in an air force, or maybe a naval commander, or whatever branch of the military would get involved with giant robots and he(or she) is told he's gotta train a bunch of teenage girls to pilot giant robots to stop an insurrection or an alien invasion or other problems that giant robots solve.
It wouldn't be a shitty harem or anything like that, just an adult driven to wits' end trying to get untrained teenage girls of varying personalities, none of them suited for the military much less a warzone, to operate complex machinery.
It'd be like Heartbreak Ridge but funnier and with giant robots.
>two heterosexual girls
>NAW they're gay
>>134959739
>what is literally every WW1 novel/film ever made>Ernst Junger doesn't count
>>134967317
>>134967176
Not fun to watch.
This is why you're not making bank as a writer now
>>134962218
Germany didn't start recruiting elderly and teenagers until the real soldiers were all dead.
Nobody in his right mind recruits teenagers because they're simply not good soldiers.
And most anime featuring teenage protagonists in that sort of setting are ironically pretty spot on, since they're usually about borderline gay romance fujoshit and other types of drama, 2cool4school edgelords, and faggots who start to freak out and cry when things aren't going their way.
>>134972320
>Not fun to watch.
Nobody has ever tried it. Being afraid of trying new things is why you're not making bank as a writer, either. If you just blindly stick to old formula (which is exactly what happens, they copy the formula off of some old classic movies and novels and shoehorn it into the setting because it's a safe bet), then it's easy to find somebody that'll do it better than you or do it for cheaper.
Good writers learn from their predecessors and use that knowledge to create new things, or at least new takes on old things. Anybody can regurgitate, which means some mexican with a typewriter and quick fingers can regurgitate for less than what you'll work for. What every cheap mexican and 'comedy writer' with a college degree can't do is create, and that's where you find a career.
>>134971832
>they just can't pull the trigger when they're looking a man in the face
Most engagements are fought at quite some distances, even for the average infantryman.
And for people who are even farther away tearing people with rapid firing autocannons it's even more of a non-issue. If you listened to a couple of gunship radio chatter you'd come across gunners cracking jokes while they're non-nonchalantly cutting down tens of guys in a matter of seconds.
>>134959739
>MC finally corners the villain
>doesn't kill him and villain escapes
>villain goes on to kill tons more people and even some of the MCs friends
>>134972614
Now you're terribly missing the point here, once again this is why you're a writer
>>134972663
>this is why you're a writer
t-thanks.
>>134972049
Well, Majestic Prince does something like that.
>>134959739
>War setting
>War crimes like the Holocaust and the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings are mentioned as examples of foreigners being the devil
>Events like the Nanking Massacre and the Bataan Death March are never mentioned
>>134973715
>war setting
>Korea, Vietnam and Iraq are presented as justified military deployments and overall strategic victories for america.
Every nation's media likes to varnish history
>>134971970
They were magic bows, though.
My big problem with that scene is that those helicopters should have smoked the archers long before they got into the range of their bows. Or hell, even if we assume that their bows had greater range than what was demonstrated and their scope feature gives them sight on par with a helicopter, one of the reasons why we don't use bows on the battlefield anymore is because-
Bow and arrow: 1 shot every five seconds if you're very fast
Weapons that you might find in use on an attack helicopter: 600+ RPM on the low side for things that put holes in you, several shots per second for things that blow you up or set you on fire on a larger scale
With five helicopters shooting at their neat little line of soldiers, they would have been a pile of guts before they could even get close to getting a shot off. Or a pile of ashes. Or crushed when the wall collapses. Or just otherwise dead.
>>134959739
That actually work when they pull it off though. Lots of boys were signing up for military in the past thinking it was glorious and shit, then they realized how shitty is it.
>>134960183
4chan is a hipsters website. What did you expect?
>MC completely rekts the bad guy
>"I've managed to avoid any vitals"
>>134973715
People call Americans nationalist, but the Japanese make even the most retarded uneducated flag-waving hick look like someone who hates his country. The former might excuse events using statements like "Dead children? They were going to grow up to be terrorists anyways!" or "Using Japanese skulls as ash trays? That'll show those subhuman jap monkeys not to mess with the USA!", but at least he acknowledges that Americans aren't above brutality. The Japanese outright refuse to acknowledge any events that don't paint the Japanese as innocent and blameless.
>>134973715
>Nanking Massacre and the Bataan Death March
proofs?
>>134974239
More like it's just not really productive or interesting to do so. There aren't many people left in the world that were alive at the time of the nukes, and the impact it had on their country, politically and culturally is far more important than projecting some 'sins of the father' guilt onto them for some things a previous generation did.
Acknowledging that your predecessors did something awful and glorifying it is not a good thing. It's not a good thing that americans treat the bad things they did like they were somehow actually good. That's not acknowledging brutality, it's glorifying it. Deliberately avoiding a subject means, at least, that you acknowledge how awful it was and understand that it's literally indefensible rather than offer pathetic excuses like "b-but they had it coming!" And, refusing to be held accountable for things the political body you live within did in the past is perfectly reasonable. This whole idea that an entire peoples should be held accountable in perpetuity for the actions of a few in the past is archaic. Heinrich the 6 year old in Germany doesn't need to apologize for the Nazis any more than Suzuki Miyamotorolazaki-san the sararyman needs to apologize for Nanking or John Smithsonbergstein needs to apologize for slavery. Holding an entire race accountable for their history is absurd -only niggers, koreans and the deep south do it unironically anymore.
>>134973939
>1 shot every five seconds if you're very fast
>not using horse archers shooting a handful or arrows in a few seconds
>>134974453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVRBPGe2k94
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataan_Death_March
>>134973715
>Nanking Massacre
>believing statistics from communist china
>>134960759
It is not unreasonable to dislike something because of the people that like it. If I liked some video and then I go and look at the comments for it and see some of the stupidest, most annoying group of people, I'd question myself a bit.
>>134974239
At least it will preserve their strong cultural identity. You start being apologists and soon you'll be flooded with shitskins. Having a weak stance on this will put them a step closer towards globalism.
>Will's waifu
>ara ara
>>134974801
Eeven if the death count is exxagerated, it's an horrible even that still happened and was brutal as fuck (not like the Allies and the other Axis powers were much better though).
Are you some kind of weeb apologists? or one of those tin-foil /pol/ users that claims that the holocaust never happened?
>>134975237
I mean exaggerated*.
>>134962103
Tokyo ghoul anybody?
>>134960953
haven't you heard of plot armor, anon? It's pretty strong
>>134963685
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Beda3kFNjo
>>134973939
personally I do not know which is more retarded the fact that the army would resort to bows(shot by lined up bowmen) or that the said tactic worked; I like you am more inclined to the latter being more retarded simply because the AH64s have a firing range which is far greater than the one depicted.
>>134975963
People who think the song is called It Ain't Me make me sick.
>>134976011
It's obvious that the demon army has extremely limited access to high tech weaponry. I doubt that they have even a single SAM launcher in their arsenal, unless you want to count some cheap as fuck RPG-7 or some shit.
It's the way that they used what they had that was really stupid. They should have spread out and hid. Sure, the helicopters still would have raped them, but at least the possibility of survivors who could strike back would have raised a bit.
>>134976713
this is why I said the latter is more retarded. I see how such a quandary is becometh upon them, though I doubt the authenticity of said quandary given the amount of technological resources they have acquired. I mean the demon army has some choppers too for example.
>>134972624
Well yeah. That's why a lot of the early gundam MCs were fine fucking up other mobile suits and killing the pilot inside, but were really bad initially at shooting directly at live people.
>>134977964
Many of their soldiers march everywhere on foot. Forget tanks and helicopters, they have to ration out their use of trucks and humvees. It's pretty obvious that they're under-equipped.
If they have helicopters (can't say I remember those), they probably have a minuscule amount and want to keep them out of harm's way for use in battles battles that are deemed extremely decisive.
