How true is this?
>>134921153
Hahahaha.
You need a good understanding of proportions, perspective and lineweight. Once you understand these subjects it's really not that hard to make pieces like in the right, it just takes a bit more time than simply going for anime stylized drawings.
>>134921153
Not true at all
>>134921153
You need to be better to make the pic on the left.
You k ow, because it looks better
>>134921153
Is this about drawing or sex?
>>134921153
i would drawing anime only is degenerate it takes no skill im not a art student but i have been drawing for years and i see people who say they can "draw" and then they draw basic anime and i cringe a bit
>>134921536
I bet your shit is below deviantart tier.
>>134921561
think what you like
but my but hurt a bit are we
>>134921536
>>>ESL
>>134921536
post some drawings then
That's true.
To be able to snuggle cute anime grills, I had to pose in my underwear next to a skeleton.
Awkward, but worth it.
0%
>>134921596
i am not a wetback.
>>134921619
i don't own a scanner.
>>134921508
Satisfying a mustached gentleman and a skeleton clearly requires more technique and stamina.
>>134921153
Knowing proportion doesn't mean you have to able drawing realistic.
like 70% true
>>134921274
is correct
>>134921153
No.
You need understanding to be able to do both.
If you can't do one you can't do the other.
>>134921665
or a phone?
>>134921665
Do you own a camera?
Drawing is a talent so you don't have to learn shit. You either can draw it or can't.
>>134921629
You don't have to, there's already a skeleton inside of you
That image is very exaggerated but it's true.
>>134921153
>How true is this?
Maybe true for KyoAni.
>>134921665
I photograph my drawings
>>134921719
>>134921722
oh sure why not give me a minute or two.
but i guess i meant what >>134921274 meant
>>134921589
Wut
>>134921723
Oh fuck off, some people just have an easier time learning the art and take seemingly less effort to accomplish something vs. taking more time to practice and develop skills. There's no such thing as being able to Rembrandt straight out of the womb.
>>134921274
The problem with some anime/manga (doijinshi especially) is when the artist *doesn't* grasp human anatomy, and therefore they end up making people who are so anatomically unrealistic, that it actually gets a little disturbing on occasion.
>>134921153
Slightly exaggerated, but generally true.
Picrelated is my stuff
>>134921153
To be a cute lesbians with another girl you first must be able to turn into a skeleton? Huh? Explain
>>134921871
Awerage hentai stuff - yes, they fuck up hard poses.
But god tier hentai has god tier anatomy
Yui's right leg is positioned wrong, so clearly you don't need to be a master of anatomy to draw anime moeblobs.
>>134921723
Is this what you tell yourself to feel better about your reluctance to learn new skills?
>>134921871
>doijinshi
Not really surprising for those. Most of them aren't professional.
>>134921875
Face is disgusting and too much detail has been put into the musculature (especially left biceps). Reduce the details on the shiny abs.
>>134921723
What the fuck are you on about?
Do you think there's some sort of drawing gene or something?
>>134921723
Talent is EXP multiplier, not something that make you level 100 from the start.
>>134922079
>>134921875
I like it.
>>134921723
No, it's not. It's a skill you learn & can be taught. Comments like yours only come from losers who don't try hard enough.
>>134922104
this is a silly analogy but I like it
>>134921153
>How true is this?
Not very. It's mostly whining by art students that claim they are still real artists can could draw something like the old masters did, but just choose not to; instead they throw trash on the ground and call it art.
>>134921875
Those hips are objectively perfect, anon. How much practice does it take to get here?
>>134922079
The left arm is a bit weird, but I think the face is fine. The eyes actually look refreshing.
>>134922079
i suck with faces, and that one was a rushy-quick work.
Here's what i got when go serious but the background is just bad, i know it.
>>134921723
Typical excuse, try harder faggot
move thread >>>/i/
>>134922190
A year of practicing 10+ hours a day.
>>134921153
Knowing anatomy helps immensely.
>>134921875
>>134922190
>Those hips are objectively perfect
You might as well be saying that silicon boobs are objectively perfect.
>>134922206
What's with the serious lack of lines?
I get it can be an art style and that good coloring/shading means that shapes still hold if you turn off the line art layers, but it doesn't work with your art at this point. It looks blurry and undefined and really shows that you draw like a westerner.
>>134922270
>implying they aren't
>>134922104
>>134922206
You're not drawing, you're painting.
>>134922290
My cellshading (flat 2d style) is just bad and you have no idea what amount of work is to make a clean poshed line-art, at least for me, maybe i'm braindamaged or something but my hands just won't draw clean.
>>134922238
This is almost four thousand hours. This kind of commitment only reminds me of the most rabid of Dota players. Jesus christ.
>>134922270
>You might as well be saying that silicon boobs are objectively perfect.
I don't get it.
>>134922318
Silicon boobs are dreadful, anon.
>>134922104
Basically this. Talent at drawing only means you have some of the traits most people have to develop over months if not years of practice: steady hands, an eye for shape and form, or good hand-eye coordination, or maybe good instinct for color coordination. These are definitely advantages that allow you to rapidly progress, but you still don't get anywhere without putting them to practice.
>>134922412
>rabid of Dota players.
i used to be one.
Now the time counter in steam is vry painful to look at.
>>134922318
They aren't.
>>134922412
>I don't get it.
Both are ugly and fake-looking. Those hips are more like a caricature of a woman's hips and not perfect at all.
>>134922412
>4000 hours
If you want to learn a language you need that much, at least with an Asian one you do.
>>134922412
They say ten thousand hours is needed to become an expert in anything.
>10 hours of practicing/studying
Maybe if I was on ritalin, how do you anons do this? My max is like 1 hour then I NEED a break.
>>134922487
>a caricature of a woman's hips
They are an exaggertion of attractive features.
What now? Anime eyes are too big?
I'm not a fan of melon boobs, but exaggerated boobs in a right shape and beautifully done are great.
yes OP it is necessary,cant do pic on the right too well yet,but this is my skill level.
>>134922624
>>a caricature of a woman's hips
>They are an exaggertion of attractive features.
Which makes them no longer attractive.
>What now? Anime eyes are too big?
It depends in which anime. They often are too big.
>>134922619
Have fun with it.
I mean, you're practicing drawing for fuck's sake. Not going through data or memorizing anki cards.
>>134922619
Hammer PASSION into your head, it must be something that you wnt more than to get laid.
if you don't want it so hard make yourself want it.
Also works as a great escapism, when i was depressed or had problems i could draw literally all day until i'm too sleepy to go on, because if you stop you'll start thinking aboyut your problems.
The worse the better.
>>134922487
>Both are ugly and fake-looking. Those hips are more like a caricature of a woman's hips and not perfect at all.
I don't think so. I thought that's what nice hips look like, usually. Then again I don't have an eye for form and I struggle to draw passable stick figures, so I guess I'm not exactly an authority on the subject.
>>134922546
>They say ten thousand hours is needed to become an expert in anything.
Fair enough, but this basically equates to around 3 to 5 years of practice, right? If I'm at least passable after one year I guess that can keep me going.
I'll just go ahead and daydream about being a good artist and think of the things I'd like to draw. I'm an expert at that, at least.
>>134922104
Not as far off the mark as you'd believe. Environment and genetics both play a role in determining intelligence. So you can be innately skilled at art but so long as you don't train that reflex, you'll always be subpar to someone who actively practices.
>>134922238
What is a person even supposed to do with 10 fucking hours?
Switch between drawing for reference and free drawing?
>>134922680
>Which makes them no longer attractive.
Ehh. That's subjective.
It's not my kind of thing, but H-manga with chicks with tits the size of their torso exists because people are into them
>>134922637
That looks like a copy of existing artwork and the person drawing it had no clue how the "inner" structure worked.
>>134922793
>innately
Reading books on anatomy, trying to reproduce, failing, reading again trying again, then trying to draw an anime girl with what you just learned. Sketching, constructing, trying to memorize major body volumes and minor such as muscules and fat, trying to draw complex poses with foreshortening and perspective, also learning values, colors, and sketching robots and mechs to feel perspective of simple shapes more.
And lots and lots of actual books an anatomy and drawing.
>>134921153
That is literally a meme to keep weabshits out of /ic/
>>134922793
Draw from reality.
Read the /ic/ sticky, it has books and other shit.
Learn from other people's drawings and their techniques.
Just draw for fun.
>>134921871
>people think art style has anything to do with the drawers ability to draw
What a surprise this faggot is a tripfag
>>134922907
i am rusty with figures,but what exactly makes you say that,both these guys wear rather baggy clothing
>>134923094
It does though.
>>134921153
I used to think it was b.s., but I studied anatomy from loomis, alienthink and a Japanese mangaka for like 5 months and it m are my art sooooooo much better.
>to be able to draw as well as a japanese hobbyist
>you must first be able to draw as well as a classically trained russian academic draftsman
u wot
My biggest problem is that I can't keep consistent faces or feature proportions even if it's the same character from the same angle. Another common problem is that I'm poor at drawing anything beyond 2-3 certain poses/angles.
>>134922637
I like your style, kid
>>134922206
Nose are too big nigga
/ic/ autists who make boring(for the most part) paintings will say it is accurate
autistic finnish artist who draws fat cutiepie schoolgirls and can do it in 12 styles says balance and stylization are more important than anatomy if you want to draw cute anime girls
Get a clue
>>134923285
Steal other people poses, redraw it again.
>>134923100
Even with baggy clothing, there is still a body beneath that supports the cloth and the drape/folds should look natural instead of forced or non-existent. Anatomical proportions mustn't be ignore, either. Both characters in >>134922637 look incredibly flat despite the shading and the guy on the right looks like he's got elephantiasis.
>>134923351
Style and stylization are not the same thing anon.
>>134923351
That looks like shit though.
>>134923282
the point is that you need actual drawing skills to do stylized stuff.
I know a dude who thinks that he can bullshit around, learn tricks and guides and easy ways so he won't need to get good to make good stuff.
He draws this.
>>134923404
Whoa I ain't going down the route of NGNL Kamiya Yu.
>>134923285
do advance contouring, you need more eyes training. And some baroque drawing practice on line art.
>>134923452
Good GOD, even for Satsuki, that's UGLY!
>>134923404
Haha yeah I do that too. Everyone does.
>>134923452
>That mishmash of perspectives
>That leg / hip proportion
>That everything
I can't draw worth shit but that looks terrible.
Yall fags need
LOOMIS
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>>134923440
I never implied otherwise
>>134923449
Your face looks like shit
>>134923351
>>134923449
He knows anatomy to certain degree.
He makes most body shapes and curves and makes them okay, but he warps them around for sake of simplicity and cuteness. Doesn't mean you don't have to learn fundamentals.
BTW he's not exactly a god of drawing. But might help the beginners.
I more like this.
>>134923452
That is fucking creepy. It looks like a bobble-head doll in chibi proportions but regular arms and overly sexualized breasts/waist/hips.
>>134923620
he tried to make it like she's seen from above, kek.
>>134923595
And I never said anatomy is not important, but you don't need to perfectly grasp male figure and draw spooky skellingtons if you want to draw cute 2d girls instead. None of the artists posting here so far have any grasp of the anime style
>>134923649
But its from the front...
>>134923452
>He draws this.
Also this
>>134923695
>painting in anime style
truly the worst shit ever. Very few artists can pull that off and not go full uncanny valley
>>134923683
That is how bad the art is.
>>134923695
Looks like he painted over a photo.
>>134923495
What is eyes training?
>>134921153
>had to stop drawing for half a year because faggy asshole drug dealers wanted to kill me
>took Muay thai class after University so i don't get killed.
>In the midst of moving out from that shitty neighborhood
Finally, I can start drawing and practicing again.
>>134923842
nice blog bro
Maybe you shouldn't have butt in on their turf?
>>134923723
>painting
It's a photo, bro.
>Very few artists can pull that off
As for me I love DanteWontDie.
But i can't do that myself.
some istead do just a flat as a pancake anime face right on top of the painted stuff and it wotks OK.
>>134923434
yea,i drew the body then the clothes over it,hes squatting very widely,i mean i couldve used shading to show that better but come on man
>>134923695
Oh
Oh my god
Rate me, /a/
>>134923947
those proportions
>>134921875
gross
>>134922546
This was bullshit already proven wrong.
>>134923886
I like this one by usatarou a lot
Its funny because he normally draws obscene futanari pictures
not really... you have to have a ground understanding of anatomy and proportion to draw in a manga style, but to be able to draw like on the right side, you have to get a "bit" better in those topics.
>>134921875
Everything looks pretty good except for the face, it looks pasted on.
>>134923947
you're too focused on the ass, as it seems... (you never can be focused enough on the ass!)
>>134923947
- Lineweight too heavy. Don't draw the lines and draw over them as if your life depended on them.
- Why is the shading directional? Pick one direction and stay with it. Don't shade up and down the limbs following their exact orientations.
- Proportions are poor. Head is too big, torso too small, arms are spindly and it looks like you tried to emphasis the butt way too much.
- Butts are not solid round balls. They can and will be squished by the thighs in different poses.
- Did you copy the hands from somewhere?
- Overall it's very stiff and forced-looking.
>>134923947
5/10, you need improvement.
Post this on /ic/ and you'll get enough butthurt to last you an entire year.
>>134922103
I imagine it as brushes and penciles in my DNA-double helix
>>134921723
I'm gonna drown you in a bucket full of water colors!
You guys remember those yuno sensei draw threads years ago on /a/? Surely you practiced a lot and learned how to draw since then right?
>>134923285
Practice, practice, practice.
I had/have the same problem with consistency. Practice directly corrects that.
>tfw I tried to get into drawing in high school but was too lazy to put in serious effort, and now I can barely even draw flat perspective chibi shit with a reference
>tfw I tried to get into playing the piano in high school, but only crammed a couple hours of practicing right before my lessons to be able to flounder through the pieces just enough to not disappoint the teacher, and after going off to college I pretty much forgot everything and am back to sounding out melodies with just my right hand
>tfw I tried to learn Japanese in college, but only crammed the kanji right before the quizzes, pretty much failed out of most of my classes, and have forgotten almost everything except for the kana and a few random phrases
Why do threads like these about people with impressive skills have to remind me of how much of a failure I am at every skill I've ever attempted? And yes, I'm fully aware that it's all entirely the fault of my own lack of motivation, which shows no signs of ever abating for the rest of my life. /blogshit
>>134921153
I don´t get it.
>>134924512
that pic... wasn't that a thread for making homemade "cristals", a long time ago?
kek
>>134923842
Are a SAIKO SHIRO who does 100 pushups 100 situps?
>>134924583
If you want to fuck keions you need to fuck an old man and his skeleton first.
>>134924512
iktf
How into motivation?
>>134924583
To fuck cute girls, you must first fuck old man and skeleton.
>>134924583
She is so perfect.
>>134924707
Just have good memory and imagination, get praised by others for your quick progress and skills. It's fun when it's easy and everyone is jelly. Just try it.
I spent 1k hours trying to get good at drawing and had incredible teachers and I was still no better than a talented toddler at art. Shit is something you either have a knack for or you don't.
>>134923947
shit/10
Even ZUN draws better.
Remind me again why /i/ is dead?
JUST DO IT
>>134924512
Sounds like you don't even know how to put effort into goals. Every single thing sounded like you set a goal and expected the skills to magically come to you just because it's good enough that you have your sights on something, and then you got disappointed when you got the TOUZEN NO KEKKA DESU and can't man up to take responsibility that you failed yourself. What the hell did you expect? Recognizing that it's your own fault is one thing, but actually doing something about it is what you critically lack.
>>134923947
Did you actually think this looked good? This is awful. Read up on anatomy and proportions.
Drew this in HS, was it good?
>>134924691
How do you fuck a skeleton?
>>134924978
Traced/10
>>134924908
Poorly done abdomen and legs. The guy only learned arms
>>134924978
It's shit.
You copied existing art. There's no louder sign than pen/pencil sketches consisting of broken lines scratched together with no proportion guidelines in sight.
Go doodle some moe girls in different poses without more than glancing at some reference art and get a feel for having lines come from your hands in natural, long strokes.
>HS
So you're just barely in college now?
>>134925076
This, I was about to say the crotch/legs in >>134924908 look really weird. The groin doesn't end that high above the thighs (or the thighs don't balloon out that low).
>>134921629
Jej
>>134924467
I have no time to extensively practice art anymore nowadays, unfortunately. I used to be able to fill up a 100-sheet sketchpad in 1 year, but now between work and household obligations, the measly free time I get is further splintered by other hobbies and chores. I'm lucky to fill a 50-sheet sketchpad in 3 years now.
>>134925021
No.
>>134925084
From where was this copied? Seriously. I'm no artist, I just did pencil to pen. I want to see your art, elitist.
This shit is too hard. How is it even possible to learn all those things. You got books with thousands of pages just about anatomy and you need to know how to draw million other things if you want to be good.
>>134921786
So where's your drawings, faggot?
>>134925239
Is that a copy of some Kantoku?
There is alot of different things to learn in drawing. There is technique which is physically learning how to draw and make it come out the way you intend, there is anatomy and life drawing to understand what things really look like so you can draw them realistically without a reference, and there is theory and composition to understand how you set up a shot changes our perception and emotional response to the shot.
There is also art history so you can understand the context and characteristics of different styles. There is also practical experience which leads to speed and consistency in work.
>>134925239
It looks traced because your lines are ugly as shit but the shape is decent.
>>134924978
>>134925239
I'm getting Kantoku flashbacks from those pictures.
>>134925304
It's not a copy, but I can see the resemblance.
>>134925333
Oh, well they are ugly lines. I'm a scientist, not an artist.
>>134921153
>mfw CIA_sketch.jpg
>>134925269
Depends on your mindset, I think. Anyone can git gud, that's the great part, but how long that takes is up to the individual. The more you stress the amount to learn and the time it'll take, the more daunting it seems, but if you train cyclically I don't think it's too bad..
>>134921153
So, first I need to die to become a little girl?
>>134925393
With practice your lines can get less sketchy and you'll be able to create the line you want in a single smooth stroke. Its just part of developing your technique.
>>134925503
jej
Can someone here draw actually nice looking dicks?
>>134925560
Only censored ones.
>>134921875
>>134922079
The muscles are fine. Agreed on the face though.
>>134923285
Pretty good!
>>134924908
>>134925076
>>134925119
>skipping leg day
>>134925560
I would think vagina is tougher due to lack of self-reference
>>134923285
You have a really great sense of proportion! Could I ask how you got so good at it?
>>134921153
Dr Pavel, I'm SKETCH
>>134925560
I wish artists would learn to draw nice, realistic ones, instead of always making them huge and often weirdly-shaped. Penis for me is very important in hentai.
>>134921153
Bullshit/10
>>134925008
It's not that hard. It's spooky, but possible.
>>134925802
>>134925560
In my experience, I've found that men are a lot better at drawing dicks than women. It's probably due to ease of self-reference, but when Japanese women draw dicks, most resemble bare test tubes with no detail and not at all sexually pleasing to the eye.
Damn, I thought an entirely different thing before reading through the first few comments.
I thought "To become a cute anime lesbian you must first step outside your flesh and blood body."
>>134925895
>self reference
then why aren't all penises 4 inches? :^)
>>134925903
No, you need to get rid of your skeleton to become 2d.
>people complain about trivial shit
Fampais...
>>134921153
Like 80% true. You don't have to be able to go as detailed as the right from memory but you do need a basic understanding of anatomy and perspective.
>>134925731
There's always porn.
To draw a good cooch/vagina, I recommend shaving yourself first and get a feel of how it's really a squishy mound that hangs a little further down than you think. It's not perfectly pointed or rounded but changes shape, stretching and opening, depending on where the thighs are.
>>134921875
Good body, terrible face. You need to study more moe.
>>134925949
Because japs can still dream.
>>134921153
Id say it pretty true but i only have anecdotal evidence.
>>134926032
why the fuck would you do that when you can just look it up on the internet
>>134925789
Practice. I started around 15 years ago. See >>134925207
I don't push myself though. I just draw what I like and I don't intend to sell or start a dedicated website for my art.
>>134926089
Because then you can pose yourself perfectly in the ways you want and study how muscle/fat/skin stretches in subtly different positions and angles.
>>134923351
i like the line quality in this- any idea what program this is drawn in?
>>134926310
i understand that for regular stuff but it seems really dumb for lewd stuff
>>134926390
>really_poor_erogame_art_of_girl_bent_in_odd_position_and_dick_out_of_nowhere.jpg
You'll most likely need to get the basics down first before going full-out lewd. it sucks to be completely turned off halfway through an ero scene when the bodies morph into broken messes.
>talented at shit I don't care about
>no talent for shit I actually like
What kind of cruel joke is this?
>>134926508
so you expect the artist to setup a mirror infront of him/herself while getting gangbanged?
seems like a dumb method tbqh
>>134925959
B-but I don't have a skeleton.
>>134921153
the left one isnt anything super amazing so not really
>>134926561
You could use reference photos.
Or pose your little wooden mannequins in little wooden gangbangs.
>>134923947
You are definitely an ass man, since the butt looks like it took the most effort.
>>134926728
that's what i said senpai
>>134921153
600% the truth.
People say that you gotta learn how to draw before you can learn how to un-draw; there's no sense in parroting shit like "muh stylization" or "muh exaggeration" if you have no clue how these objects's you're stylizing and exaggerating look like naturally.
Even hackjob psychos like Picasso or Botero studied anatomy extensively before they purposefuly fucked it up in their paintings. Not to mention painting techniques, use of color and light to make volume, etc.
I mean, check this simple Wokada pic I lifted off a booru. Wokada has a very simple, clean style and a very light use of color, but his use of it, plus previous knowledge of the human figure let him do whatever the fuck he wants and make it look nice.
Most all people that jump the gun on the hard work and start straight into drawing "animu style" tend to draw in symbols rather than making volume through shapes. You're not implying a nose, you're making a dot and calling it quits; those aren't titties, those are two half-circles you drew. They don't have an idea on how to make a body and then stylize it into a drawing, they're just chicken-scratching their way into flat, dull shapes in flat, dull poses
Which manga/doujin artist is the most technically proficient?
Good stylized art (a style developed by aesthetic taste, and not a form of compensate for a lack of actual drawing skill, or just copied from someone else) is almost always rooted in technical knowledge of the craft.
But that's definitely not the case of OP's pic.
>>134921153
true
>Can draw naked figures fine, great even
>So bad at drawing clothes it's embarassing, shit looks fucking tacked on and flat no matter how hard I try
not caring for technical shit is the exact reason I became a board artist and not a character designer.
fuck that.
reminder sage goes into options field for non anime related blog shit
>>134927396
try drawing some pieces of cloth or your bedsheets or some shit anon
>>134927396
you keep practicing it, damn it. there is no other way for you to get better at it.
>>134927396
Post them.
>>134922206
No anon your faces aren't bad. It's just your unique style, so don't go copy another artist's style just because people tell you it's disgusting
>>134924978
nice job idiot you drew it sideways
>>134927357
This could make for a good "West vs East" image until someone figures it out.
>>134923947
Needs improvement but I can tell your heart is in the right place.
>>134924707
watch a sports anime or something where the guy gets good at something, you'll get motivated for abit.
>>134927111
Rustle
>>134928283
in the ass?
>>134925393
Being a scientist has no bearing at being good at art. I know scientists and engineers that are good at art, sports, music, etc. Either spend the time to get good or don't pull shit like that out of your ass.
>>134928818
are you autistic by chance?
>>134928818
He was just saying he wasn't an artist, it could've been anything
"Im a _____, not an artist" is what mattered.
What substances makes you focus better, anons? Caffeine and nicotine gives me at least a little edge.
It's okay to copy when learning isn't it? As long as you aren't straight out tracing.
>>134929536
Anything is ok if you can learn from it.
>>134929449
adderall is basically cheating
>>134929449
Watching an episode of anime or showering usually gets my thoughts together and me all pumped.
>>134927396
Keep practicing. Don't be afraid to use references to study different types of cloths.
>>134921153
That's two different kinds of art, Anonymous. That's like saying in order to become good with a paintbrush, you first need to be a great with a colored pencil.
>>134921153
According to /ic/ yes anime is the highest level of artistry, especially to capture moe.
God bless japan.
>>134927749
>>134921989
Please tell me some example. For artistic research purposed
>>134921786
>>134921153
yes and no. the reason you should learn realism is because you can than abstract it yourself as you know what's there, its part of making your style.
with manga, or visual novels, its painfully obvious which ones know how to draw realism and which ones only know anime because of how bad the ones who dont look. there area lot of concepts that go into making a traditional figure good, that also translate to making a manga style character good too.
do you need that level of proficiency to draw manga or anime good, fuck no. but the concepts to make your characters look better are easier to learn traditionally than it is through manga style.
>>134921786
>6 hours later
Is he ever going to post?
>>134924045
10000 hours to mastery is kind of proven, however when it comes to art, you are able to clearly be taught wrong and get stuck improving easier than most other fields.
>>134925442
this one?
>>134921153
Can't hurt to learn it, right?
>>134922409
if you can do lines traditionally and got something to scan or take a good picture with, in photoshop, go to filters and dick around with palet knife tool, that will make traditional lines into fairly clean digital ones and will get you by so long as you are not a perfectionist.
>>134922171
those aren't artists, most of the older non conceptual artists could do some amount of realism that would be good, probably on par with op image but not as clean, but somewhere in the early 1900's academic art got taken over by people paying big money and not wanting to put the work in to become artists, they dont want to put the work in, they dont want to get better, they want to throw shit at a wall and see what sticks.
if i remember right, russia never had this issue, so you see a great deal of proficient artists come from there while in the west you see mostly conceptual bullshit, mind you im not talking concept art for games or movies, i mean the "i farted out a paint filled egg from my cunt and it fell on a piece of paper... art!" people.
>>134922246
so does for shortening, perspective, and how to abstract, than there is also color theory... so much shit you learn traditionally helps immensely.
Poor animation is typically the result of drawing people based on PICTURES of people
Amateurs tend to use their minds eye
>>134925993
I clicked that and now I regret it.
>>134923031
its not weabshits, its the "mah style" as you can critique a realism piece, but the moment you make anything abstracted, its now an argument if you abstracted it good, or at all and its not just you suck.
fact is we cant help you if you can defend everything you draw with "its mah stile" so usually unless you already have a base to work off of, working in a style is discouraged.
>>134921153
yuiazu best pairing
>>134931820
google watts, dude makes a living off of teaching you how to use a charcoal pencil like a paintbrush, so when you finally move onto painting, you have transferable skill.
>>134921153
artfag here, it doesnt really work like that. When you learn an instrument you don't need to know how to play classics to be able to play themes... As long as you understand the concepts you can draw almost anything.
>>134921153
It's more of understanding the body anatomy and human skeleton.The more you understand how the body actually works, you can avoid QUALITY artwork.
You don't really have to draw realistic people, but if you can more power to you.
>>134923351
Good shit.
Fucking saved.
>>134924512
>>134924707
Motivation is a fickle bitch. You'll have it and then it'll just disappear. Self discipline is what you guys need. And that is what makes men great.
>>134924945
i find the issue is instant gratification.
take piano, sure if you were reasonably good from the get go, it would be fun to practice, but its not.
drawing, in my case i shit my skill away from 10 years of inuse, relearning is fucking painful, but i remember it was fun when i was good.
learning a language is a motherfucker till you get over the hurdle of basic conversation, than you can add to you knowledge base through context.
take a look at a game like rocksmith, that gives you the instant gratification of a game, a measureable "im this good now" gauge, and you dont spend years dicking around with not songs... if everything was like this, you wouldnt need school because people would want to learn on their own.
>>134921153
I don't get it. I have to be a bald skeleton guy to be reincarnated as a 2D lesbian?
>implying you need to know all this shit to know how to draw
literally drew this shit in 15 minutes and it's basically pro level, r u impressed? of course you are
>>134935627
yee
>>134925269
with anatomy, you only need to know the major forms, and know where the minor forms should be, if you know that (easily remembered knowledge) than you will go far, only suffering when you do realism at a masters level.
what you need to know for anatomy is really a lot less than books make it out to be. sure, at some point you will want to know all the names and insertions, but to draw them, you dont need to know any of that shit, just know what you see on the surface.
alot of art is like this, the books tell you a masters level of knowledge but to draw them you need far less than that.
>>134925560
from scratch... no, when i was still in practice i never took an interest in nudes as there was no way to hide it from parents or teachers, when i was out of school, i had shit to do and shit my skills away... the most i ever did was handled the redrawing of dicks for some hentai group that folded... i can proudly say you wouldn't know they were censored at all.
>>134928818
scientists tend to be able to do technical drawings and aspects that are rooted in math very good, but when it comes to style they kind of flail around.
>>134929536
racing can teach you too... its just hard for amateurs to do it right and skilled people have no use for tracing at all.
>>134934323
problem is, with an instrument most people can tell something is wrong by sound, but art, you usually need to look at shit in a mirror to see you fucked up, especially when you are new, our mind has a way of tricking us into thinking something isn't as fucked up as it looks.
>>134927111
Inoue Kiyoshirou without a doubt.
>>134936041
Its interesting you say that, humans can tell when something is off naturally when they look at another human. This is why we can have the uncanny effect. With basic understanding of human anatomy creation, foreshortening and shapes, any newbie can produce figures that look ok. If you keep working on them, they will come together better each time. With instruments its just different in that sense of wrong, you don't make it sound wrong but you might be playing it wrong, tempo and etc.. but regardless I understand, every artist has their problems that they developed and can't see.
>>134923285
She's really cute
>>134936041
The quick way to tell if something's off about your own art is to mirror (horizontally flip) the image. Somehow that gets the mind to see the inaccuracies that it can't in the picture's original orientation.
Sage because I just like the legs on pic related. Facial features/arms are fucked.
Elitist bullshit on anatomy kept me from making any real attempts at art for the longest time. Just started practicing because I wanted to make a game with something better than shitty programmer art and I'm surprised by how easily I can make something that I can be happy with. I'm sure /ic/ autists would tear it apart, but it's much more motivating to just draw instead of forcing myself to study art history/theory.
>>134923695
Guess I'm not going to sleep tonight
>>134921153
I went straight to the abstract manga style.
Also practically skipped pencil & paper for tablet.
I never know what I'm doing.
Send help.
>>134923842
Which manga do you star in?
Rate my waifu
>>134936890
Post your game, fag.
>>134932939
anything Higenamuchi
