Just a reminder, before DBS ends the following will happen to Gohan.
He gets cuked by Goten and Trunks. Pan isn't his daughter.
Goten and Trunks will become stronger than him and slap his shit.
Videl will leave him and continue fucking Goten and Trunks.
He'll die several more times.
During the new tournament arc, evil Gohan from another universe will come along and instantly connect with Goku like the son he never had.
Evil Gohan will become good and replace Gohan forever.
Yamcha will beat Gohan up.
Gohan will commit suicide and never be revived ever because no one cares.
Yamcha keks vegeta again
>>134763028
not this shit again
If they are going to treat Gohan like that, they should just write him out of the story, like they did with other characters
It will never not be funny to laugh at Gohan.
>>134763028
This sounds like a great premise four a doujin
Sounds like something that might be made be the same person who made those NTR mind control doujins of Android 18.
>>134763028
>Videl will leave him and continue fucking Goten and Trunks.
but videl doesnt have shittaste
>>134764730
>marries Gohan
>doesn't have shit taste
>>134764827
he had killed cell like 3 chapters ago
how was she supposed to know
>>134761144
>>134761192
>so is this the canon
>Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
>Dragon Ball manga
>Dragon Ball: Heya! Son Goku and Friends Return!!
>Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods
>Dragon Ball Z: Revival of “F”
>Dragon Ball Super (Champa arc onwards)
So is the movie where Goku´s father travels back in time not canon?
and what about that aleged manga of the real mother of goku?
>>134766083
GT is canon too
>>134766966
>>134766083
>>Dragon Ball: Heya! Son Goku and Friends Return!!
that shit ain't canon nigga
Is "Gohan is weak!" the new "That one chick from Digimon got together with the blonde guy instead of the goggles guy!"?
>>134767169
But gohan is weak. Fucking Roshi of all things had a better showing off than Gohan, and he hasn't trained since the piccolo daimaou days
>>134767233
I wasn't disputing the notion, I was simply noting that the way people trumpet the fact with some degree of either sincere heartbreak or ironic glee seems to remind me of the Digimon thing
If Goten and Trunks fused via earrings, would their name be Gluten?
>>134767111
it's referenced in BoG
>>134767482
Trunten.
so now all the ginyu members are dead, how long until they are all revived?
>>134767640
They won't be revived. The next one to be revived is Cell
>>134767962
that means it'll be gohan's time to shine
>>134763748
>>134764520
You guys are more pathetic than Gohan.
>>134765950
jesus christ
>>134765950
why is he so skinny
>>134767962
>SSGSS2 Mystic Gohan vs SSGSS Golden Cell
daily dose
>>134771170
You ask, the doctor delivers.
>>134763028
Will Videl let him into her bed ever again after knowing this ?
Could Gohan even escape his humiliation by killing himself? It's not like people don't casually go to the afterlife all the time. They could just go laugh at him there.
>>134763028
Why is this lovely lady, I wanna fuck her!
>>134771655
Don't stick your dick in a jobber, that might turn you into a jobber as well
>>134771397
thanks doc
GOHAN, NO!
>>134770322
Stopped lifting.
>>134766966
well they confirmed its a multiverse so it's possible they'll just past it off as an alternate universe
>>134772451
>>134763028
Nice shitposting m8
/a/ will look back at this episode months from now and realize this was the start of Gohan's character arc in Dragon Ball Super.
>>134763028
>During the new tournament arc, evil Gohan from another universe will come along and instantly connect with Goku like the son he never had.
It's like an entirely new, weaponized form of NTR.
>>134763028
>>134763748
>>134764827
>>134765950
You are reaching pathetic level, shitposter/tumblrina.
Reported and hope the mods sage you.
>>134771655
>>134771934
>>134772451
>>134774547
Back to tumblr, fucktard, where you and the other scum belongs.
>>134770322
He put all his life energy and potential into nutting inside Videl. It left him drained of all his strength, but insured Pan would be the strongest being to ever exist. Hence why she was able to go super saiyan even before being born.
>>134777059
Your landwhales friends are calling for you.
>>134776830
lel Gohanfags BTFO.
>>134764038
I'd rather he not be in the fucking show if they're going to do him like this.
Or have HIM die and make up some bullshit mode for Piccolo to transform into.
>>134777707
You are going to be banned at some point. Congrats I never met such a pathetic scumbag as you.
>>134778085
Making the job easier for me, I see.
>>134776604
That won't happen. Red was kind of a 1 shot deal.
He regrets not training, so maybe he'll try to turn blue. Rides heavily on the next manga chapter and if he keeps getting little monologues in the next few episodes.
>>134767482
No?
>>134763028
well gotenks is already stronger than him
they just need to grow up more to be individually stronger
>>134776830
>DBfag being this mad
>>134778681
Stop acting autistic.
>>134778812
I still don't get how does a almost god form got destroyed by a lazer beam. And don't tell me about the defense off bullshit a lot of characters had their defense off before and got surprise attacked and still able to survive.
I feel like all this Gohan suffering is just buildup to him starting to train again. Like, not even buildup to him getting to Goku or Vegeta level, but on a level where he can actually fight and sustain SSJ. Also to get ripped again.
Not even a Gohanfag, I'm just trying to rationalize all the Gohan abuse. This fucker needs to start training again.
>>134778846
Stop being butthurt first.
>>134763028
>comes home to find videl being tagteamed by goten and trunks
>breaks down as she tells him she finally found out what it's like to get fucked by real saiyans
>tfw she tells him to clean up her pussy
>>134778954
From a story writing standpoint, this is the likely thing. They're emphasizing his weakness. He's been getting his ass kicked for THREE episodes. He blames himself for Piccolo's death (which hell, was just included in the show).
It's for a reason.
>>134779032
>the sheer butthurt caused by this
Based Toriyama.
>>134778947
Surprised =/= Low Ki
Ki =Durability
High Ki = Can take planet buster attacks to the face and survive
Low Ki = You get killed by a saibaiman
Cero level Ki = You get killed by a peashooter
>>134767482
>this thread is no longer Gluten free.
>>134779343
>Butthurt
But why? If Goku actually learns something from this experience it would be the first time in years that Goku had any character development.
Why is he so happy about eating yogurt?
>>134767482
Where does the L come from in that name hybrid?
>>134779652
>If Goku actually learns something from this experience
But he never did anon.
In fact, immediately after Whis said that, he got shot. He was warned and immediately after he didn't heed that warning.
Just like all previous instances.
>>134772608
I'm okay with this.
>>134779652
>>134779730
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
>>134779730
Lasers?!? Better block them with my chest!
>>134779998
Every fucking time too.
I think by now, Goku blocks it with his chest by reflex.
>>134779032
>DBfags
>not butthurt
Please.
inb4 they go le laser meme or le saitamakeks go back to tumblr/devianrtart it's one guy who's doing this i swear
>>134772451
Every fucking time.
>>134779730
But that is the point. He got a warning, he ignore and suffered the consequences if his arrogance and there is hope that he actually learns his lesson in DBS.
Honestly I think this is great. I like Goku but his overconfidence gets the best of him. That is why Roshi became Jackie Chun to teach his students to not be arrogant but Goku's natural stupidity + ever growing power makes him underestimate his opponents.
>>134763028
>Yamcha will beat Gohan up
Y..y..yo..you're MAD!
>>134765950
Piccolo's face is perfect there
No anger, just expected disappointment
>>134780219
>there is hope that he actually learns his lesson in DBS
He didn't before. Every time this has happened. What makes you think he's going to change now?
The fact that he as warned and he still got shot shows he did not and will not learn his lesson, especially judging by what happened in the past.
They're saving the budget for the new stuff right?
That's why the animations I'd god awful RIGHT?
>>134772451
Best laser meme.
>>134780308
> What makes you think he's going to change now?
I was going to say that is the fact that Goku and Vegeta are students guided by the strongest being in the universe. But to be honest I just hope it goes that way. To see Goku being trained by someone that is actually stronger that him reminds when he was a kid learning new tricks . Basically I am just nostalgic.
>>134779513
but its not like fpssj he's still powered up
>>134780735
No is not. The transformation is just a power multiplier but 0 x 100000000000000 is still 0 Goku and Gohan can lower his Ki to 0 without losing the transformation. But only Goku is dumb enough to do it in the middle of a battle
>>134779032
Will power level wankers ever recover?
>>134781055
are you retarded goku had to train extensively to be able to be ssj with a low powerlevel
>>134778372
im actually looking forward to the new chapter now that its heading into totally new territory
>>134779032
The most genius scene in the history of anime.
>>134779921
So what you're saying is Goku needs to keep a Dragon ball under his shirt like he did against Tao Pai Pai to protect against lasers
>>134781312
So you just skipped the part were Whis explains that a body with low Ki is so frail that can be damaged by a simple attack and Goku's habit to lower his guard is his greatest weakness?
Geez anon this is Dragon Ball how you not get it.
>>134781541
Or fucking pay attention for once.
>>134781192
I hope they don't. I am sick of the DB vs comic characters shitposting
>>134781555
goku didnt have low ki he was super saiyan god super saiyan. There's no proof he actually trained that form like he did ssj in the cell saga but plenty of evidence that toei is full of retards on its writing staff.
and plus it just ruins dragon ball z
>>134780308
Maybe he will. Goan is regrets neglecting his training, Vegeta dropped his "I am the prince of saiyans" and is willing to learn from othets so maybe even Goku can learn something.
>>134781555
That's just bullshit, anon. Did you forget The Cooler movie where Vegeta and Goku were out of their ki yet survived being brutalised?
Same in the Brolly movie. And even if you don't want to look at the movies, Frieza and Cell saga had plenty of examples where the Z warriors were ki depleted and survived being killed by their enemies.
The only time they died was when the enemy's attack was so strong not even being on full guard could stop the attack.
>>134782044
Not canon
>>134779032
>>134778812
>>134779730
>>134779921
>>134780068
>>134780182
>>134780308
Landwhale, why don't you return to your shithole? Die, attention whore.
>>134782044
those movies are non canon friendo
>>134782044
>survived being killed by their enemies
Nani?
>>134781898
Why do you think Pan, Piccolo, Videl and Goten dying is going to do to a regretful Gohan that risked his life to call Goku because he was too weak to face Frieza?
If Toei again drops this plot, that would be the epitome of bad writing.
>>134782257
I don't see the problem.
>>134782169
>>134782202
Can you read? I mentioned frieza and cell sagas as well.
>>134782257
Enemy arrives.
Enemy is strong.
Enemy beats up good guys and good guys run out of ki eventually.
Good guys still survive being killed unless something very devastating happens.
>>134779513
>Kid Goku could shrug off bullets
>Adult God Goku can't shrug off laser bullets
>>134782367
Adult Goku has a body that can withstand God ki as well. A laser is just bullshit.
I have been a DBZ fan for 15 years now and it pains me to say it but Toriyama and Toei fucked up big time starting from RoF.
Any attempt by fellow DBZ fans to salvage Goku's failure to defend himself against the laser is a sad and desperate attempt to maintain hope.
>>134782282
>that would be the epitome of bad writing.
So it would be Dragonball.
>>134782577
Toriyama didn't start Dragon Ball with the intent to continue it for so long. He had no idea it'd be this big. So he went along. It's a gag manga first, serious and fighting manga later.
Db is great fun.
>>134782539
Apparently is not just Toriyama the fans are also becoming senile. Here is a pic for you gramps.
goten and trunks will end up together
>>134782746
Love to break it to you, but Krillin is a lot stronger than a laser gun.
His destructo disk even cut Frieza's tail.
>>134782282
They changed Gohan's view from the movie to a much more regretful, introspective, desperate and serious one in the show.
I can only guess the same will be done when the planet explodes before Whis says he can fix it
>>134782327
Kek
>>134782364
>survive being killed
I guess English is not your native language.
>>134782938
And I guess you've run out of arguments because picking on grammar is just a hack method.
>>134782856
>He doest get the point
Geez I am going to need some puppets.
>>134782196
>if you don't fanwank Goku, then Tumblr
Nice job, reddit.
>>134783114
Is ok anon if I can survive being killed I cant ran out of arguments.
>>134782942
Fans wanted Goku, so he phased Gohan out even though Toriyama wanted Gohan to be the lead.
>>134783145
You just keep the puppets for yourself, Nancy.
God form Goku is still very strong regardless of how relaxed he is. And I've mentioned before that in Frieza and Cell sagas the Z fighters have run out of ki and still didn't die, until something devastating happened.
Goku has a body strong enough to handle god ki now. His hair was still blue. He was still active even though he was relaxed.
For a lazer gun to go pew pew and make a hole in his body is just incredibly stupid. It would make more sense in comparison if a Yamcha level goon managed to hurt Goku.
>>134782942
He always sucked
literally the most underrated character
For real though
I think Gohan will start training again after the shit with Frieza.
There's going to be an interdimensional tournament arc after this. Wouldn't be surprised if he's in it.
>>134776663
>this was the start of Gohan's character arc in Dragon Ball Super.
just give it up already, gohan will never be relevant again
>>134782856
How can someone be so fucking retarded.
>Destructo disk
Go figure
>>134783586
Did he cut Frieza's tail even though he was in fight mode? Yes he did.
Now don't be such an immature imbecile. At least try and put your arguments through. Without strawman at least.
>>134783667
You should expect this kind of stupidity in a place where people discuss comics and cartoons. This place also has regular Loli threads and shitposting on par with /pol/.
So don't be surprised that people here are mentally deficient.
>>134783586
Even if we are being raided by normalfags, crossboarders and /co/cksuckers if you come to a DB thread you should be prepared to deal with dub babies and spics.
>>134783667
The Destructo Disk cuts through anything regardless of power level, that's the fucking point dipshit
And before you throw out Cell, that was anime only, it's pure Toei bullshit.
>>134782856
The laser gun owned by Frieza's right hand man is honestly probably at least equal to what Krillin was on Namek (he was maybe equal to Vegeta on earth)
>>134784064
Alright, I'll agree with your first part. The second part is still stupid because no specifics of the gun were mentioned. And Goku was still active in his god form.
Like I said before, if a goon attacked Goku himself rather than using a laser gun it would have been at least bearable.
>>134778372
>>134778954
>>134779194
>Gohan start training again
>He hasn't enough time to train so he start to simpler ways for ki control
>Write a book about his research
>WE DBO now
As expected from the master
>>134766083
>So is the movie where Goku´s father travels back in time not canon?
I don't think toriyama wrote it. I don't remember it in the manga.
>and what about that aleged manga of the real mother of goku?
It is canon. Toriyama wrote it and it is bundled with Jaco
>>134784306
No specifics were mentioned because it was a 90 minute movie, they had limited time and a lot of shit to cover.
>>134772608
Impossible. They explained it that only certain universes have parallel universes. It's hard to explain but from what I remember the universe we are in now has a mirror universe and that would be the only other universe that has the same people. But in that other universe the earth was destroyed by war. Meaning GT is NOT canon.
>>134784926
If the gun was able to make a hole in the chest of the super saiyan god, then it's an important part of the story already and must be covered.
Instead it wasn't.
That only leaves fans and critics alike to speculate, whether it was a failure on the writers' part or something we should argue about ourselves.
All it did was to create two groups. One that thinks this is bullshit, and the other that tries to do whatever it can to support this under the pretense of understanding this mistake.
>>134763028
> Krillin trains with the Kais learning how to sense God Ki and obtains Potara earrings.
> Krillin uses dragon balls to wish for a clone of himself.
> Krillin uses earrings to fuse permanently with clone.
>MFW everyone thinks God Ki makes you invincible.
BTFO
>>134785831
>mfw someone thinks that scene isn't filler
>>134779194
>>134778954
>>134784408
You know goddamn well they aren't going to do this shit. Gohan's been abandoned, give it up.
I mean, it'd be a nice idea...if they didn't do this in the fucking Buu Saga already! They've given up on Gohan because they're sure as fuck not going to give him the special Goku/Vegeta exclusive power up, and having him be even half as a strong as he was ruins the idea of any tension, because it makes a finer point of how powerful the new villains have to be to fucking matter.
>>134785831
That rock was coincidentally made of a chunk of The Saiyan homeplanet and unknown to Krillin was Gokus one weakness
>>134786033
You're dead wrong Gohan is coming back and going to be the Vegeta of the next arc
Then Yamcha is coming back and showing that Wolf Fang fist is not a shit move
>>134782196
Goku is an egotistical jobber. At least Vegeta gets the job done.
>>134785831
do you know what a joke is anon
>>134784408
GOHAN? WHO DAT LOL
>>134772451
Brilliant. Combine their two worst moments.
>>134771655
>>134787671
YU MEAN RIKE FOOD? GOHAN DERICIOUS DESU
>>134782196
>thinks its one guy even though it's being posted all over 4chan
>this will never be you
>>134787926
>not bulma
In the bin
>>134787926
Nobody wants Chichi you psychopath.
![[a-s]_dragon_ball_-_149_-_dress_in_flames__rs2_[71EEFCC4].mkv_snapshot_00.55_[2015.12.14_06.52.39].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dKEmaMK.jpg "[a-s]_dragon_ball_-_149_-_dress_in_flames__rs2_[71EEFCC4].mkv_snapshot_00.55_[2015.12.14_06.52.39].jpg")
>>134787949
>bulma
>>134788339
She's a lot better in Dragon Ball, but still she loves Goku and her sons deep in her heart and only wants the best for them.
I'd be prone to emotional outbursts too if my spouse was dead for half of our married life
>>134778846
>implying it's an act
>>134788008
trash is overrated
>>134788616
It's sad that gohanfags have to make a fan art just to satisfy themselves
>>134767111
>>134767576
It is, Vegeta's brother is canon and mentiond in Super.
>>134784888
Ill look for it. Thanks for the info.
>>134783346
That's not true at all. Fans had nothing to do with the decision. He's the one who found Gohan lacking to be the lead.
>>134789239
He was only mentioned in BoG I think.
Looks like this thread did a great job of explaining why Dragon Ball series is doomed now.
1) gohan is shit
2) there is no logical explanation of why the laser gun damaged a super saiyan god body.
>>134763028
Who cares. DBS isn't cannon anyway.
>But Toriyama said it is!
No it is just a cash grab.
>>134790387
>delusion to the point of saying the author is incorrect
Have we achieved a new level of autism?
>>134790418
The efforts he put in DBS compared to back then when he had to run a weekly is laughable. Do the work is not equal it's not equal doesn't matter who says/lies about it.
>>134763028
So what is Gohan a scholar of anyway? What does he research?
Toriyama could have made him go into cool technology like the Briefs and/or robotics like Gero and he could have come into his own without having as much raw power as his father or Vegeta by complementing it with cool shit. Technology was shown to be incredibly powerful in the DBZ universe.
Plus it would provide an ironic counterpoint to his life in Future Trunks' timeline.
>>134790453
Just because the quality has dropped doesnt make it any less canon you retard
GT was noncanon because Toriyama had nothing to do with it beyond some character designing
>>134790491
I didn't say quality. I said effort and work done. It's not even on the same level. If a famous chef fed you dog shit then you wouldn't gobble it up and say this is some delicious cuisine.
>>134790548
Your metaphor is dog shit
![[a-s]_dragon_ball_-_010v2_-_the_dragon_balls_are_stolen__rs2_[70d4352f].mkv_snapshot_11.22_[2015.12.05_17.41.14].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uUhGymX.jpg "[a-s]_dragon_ball_-_010v2_-_the_dragon_balls_are_stolen__rs2_[70d4352f].mkv_snapshot_11.22_[2015.12.05_17.41.14].jpg")
>>134790548
Your metaphor doesn't follow. Regardless if the chef fed you dog shit or something else it was still his dish and he still fed it to you.
Quality does not determine anything except quality.
>>134790677
I said in the first sentence it has nothing to do with quality but effort and work done. Learn to read senpai.
>>134790919
Those are the same thing you absolute halfwit
>>134763028
Super is the first time I watched Dragonball in Japanese and holy shit is king kai's VA terrible. No matter how emotive the character is being on screen, he always sounds like he's about to fall asleep. It's to the degree that I mute the anime when he talks
>>134782942
Toriyama looked at all shitty underage selfinsertfags and smiled.
>>134779721
Because in Japan Trunks' name is Tlunks.
>>134791093
No, it's トランクス
>>134791054
Well, he retired the role and someone else replaced him. I don't think he'll be coming back either. He was pretty much on his deathbed.
>>134791054
It's because he's so old now they were probably recording lines from a hospital bed.
>>134765950
He is worse than Krillin now.
The director of dbz said dragon ball GT is canon and super saiyan god and blue is transformation before ssj 4, though >>134790491
I need totally spies vs goku gif
>>134783386
This
Look at how weak Gohan looks here with his not-bulging traps and not-muscular chest
Even girls comment on it
>>134783386
He was alright before the androids.
![[Hatsuyuki]_Dragon_Ball_Kai_(2014)_-_001_[1280x720][850B3D1E].webm](https://i.imgur.com/Kr1dgMD.jpg "[Hatsuyuki]_Dragon_Ball_Kai_(2014)_-_001_[1280x720][850B3D1E].webm")
Why does he run like this?
![[Hatsuyuki]_Dragon_Ball_Kai_(2014)_-_001_[1280x720][850B3D1E].webm](https://i.imgur.com/p0nJ5ou.jpg "[Hatsuyuki]_Dragon_Ball_Kai_(2014)_-_001_[1280x720][850B3D1E].webm")
Why does his wife run like this?
>>134793922
Those new designs look lazy as fuck.
Excuse, Mr. Toriyama
Rather than stretching out the plot of the movies with a mediocre anime, shouldn't you get Toei Animation to make the occassional Dragon Ball movie?
>>134776830
>gohanfags this assblasted
>>134776830
Gohanus pls
>>134794958
Gohan is debatably more pathetic than Yamcha now
Considering Gohan more than once was the strongest mother fucker ever and Yamcha was always a bitch I'd say Gohan os more pathetic considering what he once was
>>134787926
sauce me on this shit nigger
>>134795969
not the same anon but here you have
http://moemax.net/doujin/6265/list3.html
>>134793476
Lack of training
>>134795969
HQ version here
http://exhentai.org/g/845535/29e750cb52/
>>134764095
C U C K
U
C
K
>>134794036
This.
Sorry, fellow DBZ fans, all this new stuff is highly disappointing.
Toriyama, you dun goof'd.
>>134796219
>>134796052
based anons
>>134796052
>>134796219
I have to say, the best doujins are always the ones with the accurate artwork
To me that's hands down the most important thing
>>134796052
>that goku and chichi
they look so cozy and happy.
why can't I have this
>>134793922
what the fuck?
>>134791093
>Because in Japan Trunks' name is Tlunks.
the japanese language doesn't have an L you fucking retard
>>134793922
>Winnie the Pooh on the enemy team
I fucking hope his name references it somehow. As for the rest of the gang, they look boring as hell. Literally only good design is the Pooh knock-off.
>>134793922
Am I the only one who thinks that the alt universe saiyan´s hair looks a lot like gohan´s?
>>134801293
look like an edgy tarble more desu
>Goku: Where's Gohan?
>Videl: Oh he has an important conference today so he can't make it.
>Goku: That bastard!
JUST
>>134763028
>Pan isn't his daughter.
I think Goku is Pan's father. After all, Gohan was never able to accomplish anything on his own. This is what probably happened: Gohan had sex with Videl and was about to cum. Then Gohan got cocky and says "pfff this is easy. I can cum inside you whenever I want." Subsequently, his erection goes away and he is totally helpless. Videl throws a box of viagra to Gohan, but Gohan fails to catch it. While Gohan searches for the box of viagra, Goku stalls for time as a Super Saiyan 3. When he finally finds the box, Goku already came inside Videl.
>>134765950
ctrl-F Robo one result
I did kind of like chrono trigger, he'll be a fun character if they get the personality right
>>134801100
Just because you Western cunts grew up with Disney shit doesn't mean that any character with the same color scheme is a knockoff of your uninspired shitty Disney characters, fatty.
>>134804569
expect every character on that image to be jobbers except, Vegeta, goku, not frieza and shota saiyan
>>134804094
>>134779730
>>134779921
>>134776830
>>134778090
>>134782196
You seem really upset. You should chill.
>>134765950
To be fair, Vegeta is similar.
>>134778812
>>134779730
>anon being this much of a faggot
Remember that Raditz was stronger than Goku at that point? He was instantly killed, what chance did Goku have?
>>134772451
Every fucking time.
>>134779032
Help! I'm drowning in salty fanboy tears!
>>134809352
So you're arguing that the laser Sorbet has is stronger than Goku?
Because fanboys are arguing that Goku can tank universe-ending punches.
But that laser can make a small hole on rock at most.
So either Goku isn't really universe ending or that laser is universe ending but somehow could only destroy rock.
Pick your poison.
>>134809309
Goku can lower his ki to that of his child version while in his peak form?
Sounds like bullshit.
>>134793922
So...
>U6 Namekian? Pikkon's race?
>U6 Saiyan/Tarbles
>U6 Frieza/Frost Demon
>I have no clue
>U6 Android?
>>134767111
Toriyama came up with the story and considered it in BoG
>>134766083
Dragon Ball Minus is in the Jaco graphic novel
Episode of bardock is an adaptation of a promotional manga for super saiyan bardock cards
>>134809483
Toriyama does it again!
>>134766966
I'm assuming your one of the rare people that likes GT.... Mah nigga
>>134809309
Vegeta had to willingly lower his power level, and Krillin is stronger than random freeza grunt.
What you're asking us to believe is that Goku brought his power level down to that point in the middle of a fight while in his SSJG form. Even if he lowered it, it shouldn't have been THAT low.
Basically this means that anyone could kill Goku by stabbing him in his sleep.
>>134809483
>child version
Frieza grunts who think a power level of 1000 is utter shit still walk around with blasters.
Chance of the ring being weaker are pretty damn low.
>>134811288
>Frieza grunts who think a power level of 1000 is utter shit still walk around with blasters.
So either SSB Goku isn't a universe buster as previously fanwanked oooor the laser was a "universe buster" that somehow could only break rock at best.
Choose your poison.
>>134811288
Counterpoint.
>>134766083
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/naho-ooishi-episode-bardock-introduction/
>>134793476
top fucking kek I loved that run
>>134811510
You know, I really want to imagine you are just pretending to be retarded.
Whis spells this shit out. Goku keeps his power low and is vulnerable to being hurt when caught off guard.
Just because you don't like the explanation doesn't mean there isn't one.
And yes, that means Goku while in SSJB can in fact lower his power level to the extend the ring can hurt him. That's all there is to it.
>>134811791
Damn, kid goku was built like a brick shithouse.
>>134812037
But you can't be Super Saiyan without raising your power level to a ridiculously high level. The laser is proof that power levels don't matter.
>>134812289
Evidently, you can since it happened.
>>134812037
>Whis spells this shit out. Goku keeps his power low and is vulnerable to being hurt when caught off guard.
Which means he's Raditz tier when he's caught off guard?
So much for being universe-busting tier!
>>134812345
It also means that the fanwank about Goku punches ending the universe is just that in light of how fragile he is.
>>134812345
Then that means Toriyama fucked up big time and destroyed and last bit of consistency he is famously nonchalant about.
>>134812432
Actually, Goku's technique makes sense since SSJ3 infamously uses a lot of energy to maintain. To lower your energy to lengthen the transformation is a smart choice on his part aside from the sucker laser to his heart.
nipples alien's name is Monaca
>>134812395
>I don't know how Ki works.
Do you even Dragon Ball?
Low Ki: Low stats
High Ki: High stats.
Raised Ki Goku: Threatens to end the universe
Lowered Ki Goku: Is hurt by things orders of magnitude weaker than himself.
It's really that simple.
literall goku has no planet busting feat, pal .
>>134812503
>Low Ki: Low stats
>High Ki: High stats.
He was in SSGSS form when he got shot, you super retard.
>>134812486
Like I've said before here
>>134785240
>If the gun was able to make a hole in the chest of the super saiyan god, then it's an important part of the story already and must be covered.
>Instead it wasn't.
>That only leaves fans and critics alike to speculate, whether it was a failure on the writers' part or something we should argue about ourselves.
>All it did was to create two groups. One that thinks this is bullshit, and the other that tries to do whatever it can to support this under the pretense of understanding this mistake.
>>134783346
>God form Goku is still very strong regardless of how relaxed he is. And I've mentioned before that in Frieza and Cell sagas the Z fighters have run out of ki and still didn't die, until something devastating happened.
>Goku has a body strong enough to handle god ki now. His hair was still blue. He was still active even though he was relaxed.
>For a lazer gun to go pew pew and make a hole in his body is just incredibly stupid. It would make more sense in comparison if a Yamcha level goon managed to hurt Goku.
As for the universe busting, wasn't it mentioned in a dub and so it's not just fan wank or did the fans take it out of context again?
Tl;dr
Something incredibly stupid happened and there was fuck all explanation from the producers. This only leaves fans to critique something which has no leads.
Basically, using little bread crumbs to make a meal.
Nothing substantial will happen.
>>134812655
We went over this. It doesn't matter because the point is obviously that even if he was in that form his Ki was that low.
Learn to read.
>>134811510
>So either SSB Goku isn't a universe buster as previously fanwanked
Maybe his ATK is off the charts, but his DEF is absolute shit.
So, he can DPS like crazy but cannot Tank for shit.
>>134812701
It's only a statement from kaio and kaio is more often wrong than correct.
>>134804569
Putting aside Japan in general loves the shit out of Disney, I'm very pretty much sure that thing is intentionally supposed to be a Winnie the Pooh
>>134812701
>As for the universe busting, wasn't it mentioned in a dub and so it's not just fan wank or did the fans take it out of context again?
>dub
>>134793922
>that little red shit is stronger than SSG Goku
NO
FUCKING
WAY
>>134793922
So that shitty red thing is the strongest opponent Beerus faced?
God I hope that's fake.
>>134812761
>It's only a statement from kaio
Wrong.
>>134812814
He can kill him with his nipples.
>>134812701
You're taking kaio prediction or delusion as fact. In GT and original manga most of the time kaio prediction are not correct. he is more of you need to take his statement as only half right and you need to decipher the rest and the mistke on your own.
>>134812718
>We went over this. It doesn't matter because the point is obviously that even if he was in that form his Ki was that low.
>lowering your ki while in super form
That has never happened in DB.
>>134793552
shewassuch a perfect qt
>>134807477
>You should chill.
I'm always chilled.
>>134812853
It just did. Live with it,
>>134793922
Who's the Frieza lookalike (or is that one actually Frieza) and not-kidVegeta?
>>134807477
>You should chill.
He's always chilled.
>>134812851
see >>134812826
It wasn't just Kaio. It was Whis, it was Vegeta, and it was even Elder Kai.
