![Ping Pong The Animation - 4.mkv_snapshot_09.37_[2015.12.13_18.06.34].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LtOdOVs.jpg "Ping Pong The Animation - 4.mkv_snapshot_09.37_[2015.12.13_18.06.34].jpg")
Jesus christ man, I wasn't expecting to feel this way from a sports anime. Why aren't more sports anime of this kind of quality?
What did you think of Ping Pong, /a/?
its ok i guess
Run. Run as fast as you can. Take your opinions with you, and never look back. They're coming. They always come. Every single time, no matter what, no matter how long it takes, they will come.
And they will shit all over your opinion.
>>134733925
>Why aren't more sports anime of this kind of quality?
Because most sports anime don't have Yuasa.
>What did you think of Ping Pong, /a/?
/a/ thinks it's pretentious shit, but I like it.
>>134734102
/a/'s always a bitch when it comes to character-driven shows like Yuasa. The threads were mostly pretty awful when it was airing, but it was clear from the threads following the finale that people were really impressed with it as a whole.
It's a shame you can't bring up Yuasa without people screaming 'pretentious' and 'deepshit' despite that not being the case at all.
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>wah wah all sports anime are bad and gay except muh artsy and obscure yuasa
Just fucking kill yourself fucking cunt
>>134734236
woop there it is
>>134734236
Dude, what is your problem? It wasn't even Yuasa that was good about this, it was the story in general. An actual good one instead of gay shit.
>>134734361
>instead you gay shit
You Yuasafags are all the fucking same, I bet you unironically say "moeshit" too. Just fucking off yourself
>>134734630
I don't say moeshit at all, but I will say you're a faggot who apparently can't spot a good story if it smacked you in the face. Do ME a favor and off yourself. I wanna talk Ping Pong.
>>134734236
The problem is that a lot of the more recent ones turn super gay, ie: Free, Ace of Diamond, Kuroko's Bball. As a swimmer I absolutely loved Free by the gayness was too much in season 2. Still love me some Major though.
>>134733925
It was shit and the fanbase is overly obnoxious.
The soundtrack really helped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62qWI7CpIds
Girls und Panzer is the best Sports Anime of all time. Even compared to PP.
Ping Pong the animation really attracts pretentious faggots.
I don't have anything against Yuasa, and the story itself was fine. You can tell apart the pretentious fans from the reasonable ones once they start defending the animation.
You can have a subjective opinion on the aesthetic/character design but the animation was actually pretty bad, and a lot of it went unnoticed because the aesthetic was so inconsistent to begin with. If the show actually looked like the promotional image and had decent animation, there would be legitimate grounds to say it was great, but it looks like crap minus a couple scenes.
For the animation to be as bad as it is, there is no reason for it to exist as an anime. Just watch the movie, it's better except for them switching Kong's dialect.
>>134734908
The animation is not bad. You can say that it didn't accomplish what it attempted to do, or that you don't like the aesthetic, but Ping Pong is not a show with QUALITY moments. The show looks the way it does completely intentionally.
That said, decent bait, I'm sure you'll get plenty of replies.
>>134733925
YUASA
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>visual diarrhea
>overly cliche-ridden garbage
>good
Pretentious garbage
>>134734719
>Major
Probably one of the best shows that never gets discussed around here.
![Ping Pong The Animation - 8.mkv_snapshot_14.43_[2015.12.13_19.48.44].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/R1lYJ5b.jpg "Ping Pong The Animation - 8.mkv_snapshot_14.43_[2015.12.13_19.48.44].jpg")
>>134734764
>>134735234
>>134735267
What's wrong anon? Do you not have a hero to believe in?
Ping Pong is a bad anime.
>>134735333
>Do you not have a hero to believe in?
Trump, obviously. He might actually do something about Islam.
Why do people keep saying Ping Pong is pretentious?
It's not that deep.
>>134735428
>Anti-Yuasafags like Trump
Suddenly everything make so much sense.
>>134735428
>Trump, obviously.
Opinion disregarded.
I liked every character in the show but Peco.
At least China got a happy end.
I avoided the threads like a plague, but it was really fucking good.
I should rewatch it one of these days.
>>134733925
I really liked it, the animation could have been a bit better (no the art-style, but just the quality of animation), but other than that it was a really good show and I wish we had more shows like it.
>>134736122
Good god.
>>134736122
>>>/pol/
Stay.
No one gives a shit about politics.
>>134733925
AWAY! AWAY!
Every Yuasa work is pretentious because is not moe/ecchie/yuri!! so it's shit.
>>134734908
>complaining about QUALITY
>>134736585
>Every Yuasa work is pretentious because is not moe/ecchie/yuri!! so it's shit.
I don't understand this mindset. I hardly ever see Yuasa get posted on /a/, but do people really start crying "PRETENTIOUS" whenever he is? Jesus christ, you don't see this shit with Kon, what the fuck did Yuasa do to deserve this?
I don't know about any of you, but I got some sweet images from it.
>>134737731
>you don't see this shit with Kon, what the fuck did Yuasa do to deserve this?
Kon drew normally in his stuff. Yuasa is all about non-traditional styles and exaggerated looks.
>>134734227
>It's a shame you can't bring up Yuasa without people screaming 'pretentious'
>>134734908
>Ping Pong the animation really attracts pretentious faggots.
Like poetry
>>134737855
Is that a monkey?
>>134737884
>Kon drew normally in his stuff. Yuasa is all about non-traditional styles and exaggerated looks.
Yeah, but that's what makes him unique and sets him apart from other animators. Next you'll be telling me /a/ screams pretentious at Shinya Ohira just because of the way he animates/draws his characters.
I wouldn't call Ping Pong a sports anime, sports is just a plot device here
>>134735048
Not that guy but there were some bad scenes. I remember one in particular in the first Peco vs Akuma match where they both repeated the exact same shot like 10 times in a row.
>>134738319
I can assure you that was intentional.
>>134738227
I would say that it's a hybrid. For as much as it is a sport anime, it's just as much a character piece. I'd compare it to Stella c3 in that way.
Everything but the finale and the female character were great.
>>134737855
>Monkey
>Saru = 4 letters
>Ping
>Pong
>>134738373
>it's not shit if it's on purpose
>>134738373
Well, intentional or not, it looked lazy to me and took me out of the show. You can't just wave away every criticism like that
>>134738512
No, it can still be shit, but it's not bad animation if it's on purpose.
>>134738135
Ohira actually worked on Ping Pong, so yes.
It was a genuine 10/10 for me
>>134738630
No way, you serious?
>Look it up
>He did the OP
Ok, well that explains why it was fucking great. That and the music.
![Ping Pong The Animation - 6.mkv_snapshot_12.36_[2015.12.13_23.29.30].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ROVcTc2.jpg "Ping Pong The Animation - 6.mkv_snapshot_12.36_[2015.12.13_23.29.30].jpg")
>tfw alone for Christmas
I don't understand how there are dedicated people who come to a Ping Pong thread just to say it's pretentious
>>134740199
Insecurity. They have to insult shows that are considered good/don't understand to feel a bit better about themselves.
>>134740339
I swear it's only one or two people who do it too.
I can definitely recognize the way they type now.
>>134735482
/pol/fags shitpost and have poor taste
Gee, who would have guessed.
>>134733925
>highly sympathetic characters and reasonably well executed emotional conflict
>very, very simple plot
>expressive art stlyle
>main flaw was the poorly executed hero/robot theme
It's almost exactly what you'd expect from a well-executed sports coming-of-age story. The main thing that allows it to stand out is the sport's focus emphasis on individual matchups, allowing very focused character development and conflicts where other sports may necessitate diluting development across a much larger cast.
Overall it's quite good but also very entry level, and for that reason a lot of /a/nons get sick of hearing about it.
I enjoyed itchina best character
>>134741277
>but also very entry level
OPM is entry level.
>>134741313
Spin off when?
You asked for feels?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b5q3nzgttQ
>>134741359
It is. Your point?
>>134741413
You should ask how many people in the OPM threads have seen Ping Pong.
>>134735628
>but Peco.
Peco was the best though.
>>134741458
Why?
>>134741531
I dunno, to see if your theory of Ping Pong being entry-level is really true.
Can we stop sucking Yuasa's dick and remember for a moment that this was an adaptation of a manga by Matsumoto Taiyou? Yuasa did a good job, but give praise to the source material. Fuck.
>>134741554
It sounds like you're misunderstanding what "entry-level" means.
Ping Pong isn't really a sports anime.
And had you actually watched any sports anime? Chihayafuru and Haikyuu are excellent.
>>134741603
Isn't entry-level just a synonym for "babby's first anime" or "popular"?
>>134741600
Pretty much. Like what >>134734361 said. Yuasa was just bonus. And seeing an adaptation for a complete manga is really rare, so that too.
>>134741736
I thought entry-level just meant that it stands on its own without relying on much (or any really) knowledge of japanese culture and other shows to appreciate.
>>134741620
>Chihayafuru and Haikyuu are excellent.
Why are you such a pleb and mention garbage sports anime like that?
Pic related is a REAL sports series.
>>134741797
No. Entry-level means it's basic bitch shit.
>>134741829
>tfw want to like sports anime but just can't get into Saki
bad feels
>>134741503
Use this one instead desu
>>134741874
Mahjong isn't a sport!
>>134741960
It actually is. Hikaru no Go is considered sports anime too.
getting real tired of this meme word
>>134741829
>mfw Adachi will die in our lifetime
;_;
>>134742026
You not liking the truth doesn't make it a meme.
I thought the animation was quite charming.
>>134742026
same
dumb people with no taste overuse it when they could make far more specific and meaningful criticism.
>>134742054
>mfw /a/ won't even care
>>134742076
You coming into these threads deliberately to call it pretentious makes it a meme desu.
>>134741736
The first can be true, the second is not whatsoever unless it's being misused in a derogatory fashion. That said accessibility will certainly help a series' popularity in most cases.
>>134741797
It depends on what you're applying it to. Cultural knowledge, technical knowledge, and general reading level can all be factors.
In Ping Pong's case, the sports content for instance is simple enough for a layman to understand. The japanese cultural influence to my knowledge is tame enough that someone unfamiliar with japan won't be significantly affected. The story content is simple and straightforward, making it easy for even someone with a low reading level to appreciate it. Whether something is obscure or prominent has nothing to do with it.
>>134741390
>Ching Chong the Animation
>coming 2017
>>134741600
Speaking of which, wasn't Ping Pong a really old manga already before the anime?
Did Yuasa just decided to adapt it because he wanted to or something?
>>134741600
Thank you. I was about to say this myself.
To be fair, Yuasa's done other adaptations before (Mind Game, Tatami), but it's understandable that most praise would fall onto Yuasa as neither are translated into English, and the latter was a book so the visual direction is definitely all the work of Yuasa and his staff. But with Ping Pong, the source material's been translated and even has an official English version long before the anime so it's quite easy to tell what additions were made solely for the anime adaptation. I liked what the anime did to expand some of the minor characters like Kong, but I wasn't too fond of the change to Dragon's character and the anime-unique video-game/robot motif. Some scenes did noticeably play out better in the anime with the music and voice acting, but the whole manga-esque panelling the anime tried to do for the matches just made it look like an inferior imitation of the manga.
>>134742285
It's pretty old, but Yuasa did it because he's a fan of Matsumoto Taiyou. There was also a critically well-received live action adaptation almost a decade ago which was also pretty good. I honestly like it just as much as the anime.
>>134737731
Kon died before he could be shitposted to death. Nobody wants to talk shit about a dead guy.
>>134742367
I dunno I saw people shitposting about Kon the other day.
>>134742218
>Whether something is obscure or prominent has nothing to do with it.
I disagree. A lot of what makes something entry level has to do with how many people are introduced to anime through it. For example, a show like Seirei no Morbito is fairly entry level by your definitions, as its story telling methods are similar to western ones, the characters and plot are rather straightforward, and it uses very little of what some people might call "anime bullshit." But no one refers to Seirei no Moribito as entry level because it's relatively obscure and most people don't watch it until they've already seen quite a few anime.
>>134742345
>because he's a fan of Matsumoto Taiyou
That's crazy.
I bet if more directors got to do what they wanted anime would be better.
>>134742345
Oh hey look, it's Hox. I was gonna post that angel picture of you, but it never popped up in google images, so I said fuck it.
What was changed about Dragon's character? You're telling me he's not the "heroes aren't real" hard-ass he's portrayed as in the manga? And the panelling was actually kind of unique, for anime at least. It actually made a lasting impression, considering a recent anime actually referenced it by doing the panelling thing when the characters were playing ping pong.
>>134742461
I think there's two distinct definitions of "entry level" which gets thrown about on /a/. One refers to how well known a work is to newcomers to anime, which may hold implications about its accessibility and usage of anime cliches/archetypes. The other is more of a derogatory term used to label anime that only a newcomer would think is good, as the things that make it good have been done better by less accessible works only "hardcore fans" have watched.
>>134742600
His central conflict is very different. In the anime, he's a character chained down by real-world expectations and pressures (holding up his family, school, etc.). In the manga, his family life is never mentioned and he's not particularly concerned for the reputation of his team nor his school. He's a character solely focused on winning, because it's formed such a core part of his identity such that to lose is a terrifying aspect that will shatter his whole life and identity. Hence, whereas Peco plays for the fun of the sport, Dragon plays ping pong because he's afraid to lose. He has nothing else in life except to win, which he derives no pleasure from. This is the chain that Peco frees Dragon from in the manga.
>>134742461
>Moribito
>obscure
I wouldn't call something that has aired on Adult Swim "obscure" in the western sphere by any remote stretch of the imagination.
And once again, it's besides the point. Moribito IS entry level for exactly the reasons you described. Being on adult swim doesn't make Moribito entry level, however being entry level is a big part of why Moribito was put on adult swim in the first place.
>>134742605
Entry-level in its proper form is something that is simply meant to refer to the work's general difficulty. It's in a very similar situation to terms like "moe" and "fanservice" in that a lot of anons developed an association between them and accompanying negative traits that tend to come with it, and thus used it as a derogatory term to the point of losing all meaning.
Ping Pong is not a difficult work for someone to get into. You could probably show it to a teenager with little to no japanese and sports whatsoever (ideally in translated manga or dub form for the sake of accessibility) and they'd probably be able to appreciate it substantially.
This isn't inherently a bad thing. But similarly to something like fanservice, it has certain associations that make people sometimes see it as a bad thing even when it's done well.
>>134734719
That's not the 'problem' you moron, not only are DnA and KnB literally not gay at all in canon (fujos liking something and imagining it to be gay =/= actually gay), how gay something is has nothing to do with the writing quality. Ping Pong is simply better written and directed, and isn't dragged out like sports series often are.
>>134742749
Wow. That's heavier than the anime. I mean, it had something like that in the anime, where Dragon eventually started to feel a thrill for ping pong again because of Peco, but it came down to him not being fulfilled with winning
>>134743329
It's definitely a bit... I don't know, broodier? I can admit that the anime-Dragon is probably more realistic in the sense that you're more likely to find real-life young athletes dealing with problems of heavy pressure and expectations. But I personally found the manga-Dragon more interesting to read about, as I'd never seen such a "hollow" motivation in a sports story before.
You think this is how normal people act in anime?
>>134743837
That was s great scene desu
>>134743513
Manga Dragon is the character I related to the most and one that invoked the greatest moment for the series personally. The anime doesn't even come close to reading the manga from my perspective. Matsumoto hit it right on the head, the anime, just plainly did not. And that's obviously because in some way or another Matsumoto knew what it felt like, and this seemed lost on Yuasa.
>>134744640
Right, I guess that just comes with the territory of being the original creator.
>>134733925
Felt exactly the same way brother.
are there any torrents of this in less than 2-3GB? i just wanna throw this on my tablet and watch during my flight back home but i don't wanna have to sacrifice unnecessary space for it.
>>134734908
This, but I accepted the animation as budget issues and past then I didn't give a shit about it
>>134744817
>>134744817
I love you Hox
ping pong was my aoty, too bad it became troll bait pretty fast
I liked it. It's my 6th favourite sports animu.
>>134746044
It wasn't just budget issues, it was time issues. Yuasa said from the beginning they were pressed for time. That's why there was some really choppy scenes, which idiots seem to praise for being 'different'.
