>Archer says he participated in the grail war himself and met Saber
Wait, how did that work? Was somebody else Archer in that timeline? If so, who was it? Were there other differences? Was Bazett Lancer's master too?
Someone explain.
>>134723174
>Someone explain.
No.
>>134723174
>someone explain
No.
>>134723174
>Trying to make sense of Type Moon shit at all
>>134723174
Shirou pls.
>>134723174
>Someone explain.
No.
>>134723174
>Someone explain.
No.
>>134723174
>Was somebody else Archer in that timeline? If so, who was it?
Why the fuck is it so hard to wrap your head around the concept of "outside the timeline"? Archer is always Archer, that's fucking it. Shirou becomes Archer somewhere in the future of that one universe, so he's always summoned to the 5th HGW of all universes. Use your fucking brain.
>>134723790
>Spoonfeeding
No.
>>134723790
that doesn't explain how Archer's original timeline worked. If Shirou met Archer in a war, he would change his behavior and wouldn't become the same heroic spirit EMIYA we are familiar with. None of the paths shows in F/SN make Shirou become the EMIYA we see.
So what was the heck kind of original timeline allowed him to exist?
>>134723174
>>134723921
Can one man be this dumb or is this some sort of joke?
>>134723921
There is no original timeline.
>>134724033
then where the fuck did Archer come from? What is the 5th grail war that he personally remembered going through?
This is not such a hard question.
>>134723921
Shirou, it's a paradox.
>>134723921
> If Shirou met Archer in a war, he would change his behavior and wouldn't become the same heroic spirit EMIYA we are familiar with
That's not necessarily true, at the end of UBW there's still a chance for our Shirou to become EMIYA. And we don't know how other variables influenced Shirou in other timelines.
As >>134723790 said, the heroic spirit EMIYA is outside any timeline, he simply exists because, at some random point, at some random timeline, Shirou became like this.
>>134723921
It was still Archer, but he didn't influence Shirou enough to stray from his path. Probably died early on. Hell, it's supposed to be similar to the Fate route but with no Saber romance, so no Avalon after death. Now stop "pretending" to be so fucking retarded.
Why do people think that Archer is literally Shirou?
He's the embodiment of Shirou's ideals.
He'd still exist even if he had killed Shirou during UBW because some version of Shirou held these ideals at some point.
>>134723174
Well, Archer met Saber and sucked her dick.
>>134724588
So Shirou made a heroic spirit because he believed hard enough?
>>134725150
Fuck, read the VN.
He made a contract with Gaia, which is over time and space.
Because Nasu didn't write the events of Fate/Emiya other than saying "Meh it's kind of like Fate route just use your imagination".
>>134725242
Wait what? Isn't Archer the embodiment of Shirou's ideal that took form as a heroic spirit and then gave him his sword powers?
Emiya and Illyasviel are both kinda cute.
Why do you care for an entry-level VN?
>>134724114
>This is not such a hard question.
And yet, this thread exist.
>>134725457
No, Archer is a Counter Guardian, hence why they show him murdering shitloads of people throughout history.
He literally make a contract with the world to allow him to keep being a hero of justice even after his death.
>>134725260
But Type-Moon ruined my imagination.
why no taiga route
>>134725966
Because she exploded.
>>134725966
A Taiga route means Taiga sex scenes, whose making would be the equivalent of dividing by zero.
>>134726311
>>134726311
I want to fuck Fuji-nee!
Shirou, did I ever tell you about Kotomine Kirei? He was a good friend.
>>134726535
MODS
MODS
MODS
MODS
>>134726571
They lived in the same town after that for 5 years.
Probably saw each other at the supermarket.
Get a PhD on Type-Moonology like the other VNfags here.
>>134723174
>hurr i don't understand infinity
>>134726633
Your resistance only makes my dick harder.
It was resurrected by Taiga!
>>134727281
Ban this fucker.
He's gonna start posting Yotsuba lewds next.
>>134727318
>Yotsuba lewds
Nah, I'm not THAT depraved.
>>134723174
Just do yourself a favor and stay away from Type Moon shit.
>>134724588
He is literally Shirou. In fact Saber even thinks "the knight and the boy" are the "same" in the VN.
>>134725655
Aren't counter guardians like those shinto gods that are made through belief. How could Shirou a shitty mage get all those sword powers if it wasn't because the heroic spirit he wished for didn't give it to him?
>>134729056
Avalon inside him changed his origin to "sword"
