Why is 99 regarded as superior to 2011?
I have first read the manga, then I watched 99 before 2011 came and I was left dissatisfied, and after 2011 came out it was everything I wanted from a Hunter x Hunter anime adaptation. Every time when there is an argument on this topic you faggots just say why 2011 is inferior, instead to why 99 is superior. So tell me why is 99 so better?
Here we go.
>>134576553
>bumping the thread
Kill yourself
>>134576620
>bumping the bump
Kill yourself
>>134576676
>bumping the bump of the bump
Kill yourself
>doing this every fucking thread
Kill yourselves
>giving an occasion to bump the thread
kill myself
remember that if you're under 150 pounds, the drop has to be at least 10 feet to guarantee a broken neck
>>134576035
Because 2011 has shit tier directing and the whole show can be summed up as "you'd waste less time reading the manga".
>>134576929
I'd say jump from even higher just to make sure.
People have survived falls from over 10 feet.
>>134577350
He's talking about hanging yourself, anon.
>>134576035
make a straw poll to see the real percentages
>>134576035
Its just /a/ being contrarian.
It obvious to everyone which one is the better adaptation and for /a/ thats just unbearable. I think most people know this but there are a few who have have deluded themselves into thinking otherwise.
Dont give it another thought.
>>134576035
Because Nippon Animation
>>134579375
>It obvious to everyone which one is the better adaptation
This.
99: Seinen
11: Shonen
2011 was actually better. Don't let /a/ ruse you.
>>134579375
this
>>134579538
this fucking guy
2011 lacks something that '99 anime has, effort, honest to goodness effort. The problem with 2011 is that there is nothing good about it on it's own, the only thing about it that is above average is the story, and if you want that then you can just read the manga, and if you do that then you won't have to deal with not having the first chapter. 2011 on it's own is just an average anime with Togashi's writing being the only stand out thing being the writing which if you want that without anything cut out, you can just pick up the manga.
>but the art
Go download the volume scans on Bakabt.
>>134579826
The 99 anime didn't have effort, though. There was filler but there was nothing even close to what the manga had going for it. Gon is hardly even the same character in 99. The only thing I can see being a legit complaint about 11v99 is that the lighting in 99 is pretty cool and 11 has pretty standard lighting throughout.
But that's probably because it made 99 look like fucking Pokemon. 99 isn't good as an anime, and even worse as a Hunter x Hunter anime.
The manga also doesn't scratch the itch that 2011 does with it's character development. A good example would be the Gon / Killua / Kite vs Army of Ants fight in the forest. In the manga, Gon says he's going first. That's that. In 2011, they play rock paper scissors to determine who goes first. It's a super cute moment that adds a lot of love to their characters.
1999 didn't even fucking finish the arc it was on. /a/ has this shitty contrarianism thing down to a science at this point. 2011 is clearly superior in every way. At least 2011 never did this fucking shit.
https://youtu.be/DHvKrOiezSs?t=62
Easily one of the worst directed "fights" I've ever seen. I'm excited to see some 99fag defend this scene or try to throw any of 2011's fights under the bus because it has speedlines.
>>134579826
>>134580068
This is also implying that 99 does the story better than 2011, which it does not. Not even close. If someone wanted to watch an anime version of HxH, 2011 is easily the best version.
>>134576035
One of the two has Departure. The other adaption is clearly the lesser of the two.
>>134580068
>The 99 anime didn't have effort, though.
That's just wrong and you know it. You literally made this as your opening statement simply for the sake of baiting, I bet you didn't even watch it. Kill yourself.
>>134580068
>The manga also doesn't scratch the itch that 2011 does with it's character development.
Amazing. I get to witness another birth of a shitty meme.
>>134580284
Departure is probably the best opening in the last five years.
>it will never be used again when the story continues eventually
>inb4 some greentexts me for implying the hiatus will end
>>134580068
>filler=no effort
>not close enough to the manga= no effort
You do realize that what you're saying is bullshit on both accounts? Not ignoring the fact that Togashi was consulted with the'99 anime in which case, you can partially blame the changes on him. 11 had shit direction, especially during it's first arc.
>But that's probably because it made 99 look like fucking Pokemon
Have you ever seen Pokemon before? Because if you did then you'd know that your own words were bullshit. I could also say the same thing about 2011 anime, it's more like a generic shounen anime anything else.
>1999 didn't even fucking finish the arc it was on. /a/ has this shitty contrarianism thing down to a science at this point.
Which actually has nothing to do with the anime, they caught up to the manga, hence why it continued as an OVA. 2011 was simply lucky that the Chimera ant arc was almost finished when it had been made, which again has nothing to do with overall quality.
>Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCDShOxhjyg
no effort right?
>>134580223
You mean that Togashi made a good story, because that isn't something that you can actually commend 2011 with. Also if by your own opinion closer to manga = better then neither adaptation is good at all.
>>134580412
btw I've only watched one anime in the last five years
99 has more experienced and talented direction, but it's barely HxH. On that note, 11 is also barely HxH even though it's canonically faithful. It's terrible at grasping the mood and presentation of the manga. There were less than 20 really good episodes.
They just had to assign the director of Neuro to my favorite series. Good for them though I guess, all the retards seem to love it.
>>134579826
Togashi's writing is terrible, I don't get why you guys praise that stuff.
>>134580470
Who are you quoting?
I liked it when the 2011 anime had these shaded images or whatever they are
2011 Killua is cuter than 99
Its just them trying to be contrarian and then the hive mind takes over.
>>134580549
Who doesn't like those? It's a classic Togashi staple.
>>134580518
I'm not really praising his writing. I'm just saying that '11fags at the end of day can only praise '11 for it's story and nothing else, because there is nothing else to praise about it.
The 99 version had atmosphere. I watched one ep of the 11 version and i hated the chirpy, up beat soundtrack and bright colours.
>>134580606
The chirpy, upbeat soundtrack is ok when it fits the scene, it was awful because they didn't know when to use what songs. The OST was pretty dull overall though.
>>134580518
bait
>>134580588
Are you kidding me? 2011 has a great OST, fantastic animation, beautiful art direction, and faithfulness to the manga.
>>134580588
>inb4 that one fag posts that same CA frame every time praising 2011's overall visual direction
>>134580588
>>134580675
2011 is visually a MUCH better program than 1999.
>>134579538
>99
>Seinen
>SEINEN
Lol
>>134576760
>bumping the bump in the bump bah bump bah bump
>raming the rama lama ding dong
2011fags are cancer
>>134580665
>OST
highly subjective, I didn't like it and didn't think it fit. Also it's music direction was shit, they fucking playing upbeat music during what was supposed to be tense scenes.
>fantastic animation
Because stills are great animation right?
> beautiful art direction, and faithfulness to the manga.
are you being sarcastic also the second one proves my point.
Are you being
>>134580675
The guy who posted a collage of images from the Ant arc that composed entirely of generic center shots was the best.
>>134576035
they took more time fleshing out the hunter exam and even the filler in it felt appropriate. 2011 on the other hand rushed through it as fast as it could so characters have little to no development by the time you get to york new. Even worse is that 2011 has a freaking recap in the middle of the hunter exam.
Pretty much 99 is better for the early parts of the show hunter exam and york new and 2011 is good for greed island.
>>134580642
all the good ones were only used once
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejZf2-Lxt9c
>>134580665
>animation
When it's good it's very good. The OST was a common complaint though, and I don't see what's 'beautiful' about the art when the color schemes and visual atmosphere were so frequently horrific.
>>134580447
>gon vs hisoka
Wow, the hired a good animation director for one episode. Between shitty midi soundtrack and the stock sound effects, it's hard to tell where the effort stops! And I only had to wait 42 episodes! But 2011 is the one with the pacing problem, for some reason?
>more like a generic shounen
Wow, it's almost like Hunter x Hunter is a generic shounen that changes tone after a few volumes. What the hell does generic shounen even mean in this case?
>>134580877
>the color schemes and visual atmosphere were so frequently horrific.
kek
Someone make a poll. I'm tired of arguing.
I want to see someone getting BTFO like the lolishits
>>134580973
It means nothing. You are absolutely correct.
99
better hisoka voice
better colors
more memorable soundtrack
more faithful (scenes not emitted)
11
better animation
>>134580973
Shizuku and Machi turned to shit in 2011
Went and rewatched a bunch of the scenes. They were so bad.
>Gon using scissors for the first time dragged out to the point where there's no impact at all
>Pariston drawn with an evil two bit villain grin when in the manga he gives a calm smile talking about how easy to understand people are
>Gon-san's rising kick on Pitou having shitty sound and visual impact
>Chrollo looking fucking ugly
>Pitou's introduction is terrible, cut in the wrong parts and has shitty animation
There were some good parts like Gon vs Hisoka in the arena, Netero vs Meruem, the dodgeball fight and Morel testing Gon, but I don't understand how even people who have read the manga don't see that the anime has many flaws.
>>134580973
>one episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ8bb_bi_Dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUw55rnjoe8
Other way around anon, your example was the one episode. You speak of pacing and yet 2011 is the only one that skipped out of adapting the first chapter, and unlike '99 whose reasoning was that they were too close to the manga, 2011 had no such excuse.
>Wow, it's almost like Hunter x Hunter is a generic shounen that changes tone after a few volumes
But you wouldn't know that with 2011 would you?
Can we stop pretending that HxH is good? 2011, 99, manga, it's all overrated garbage.
Hey boys and girls. It is me, Husk. The boy clown. Here to remind you all that if you like the year 2011, it is time for suicide!
>>134581122
>Netero vs Meruem
>Togashi used a single panel with needles as a metaphor to convey the idea of Meruem finding Netero's pattern
>2011 goes into a 30s long scene of CG needles intruding in the middle of the fight and fucking up the whole pacing in the process
>Meruem bounces around like a basketball
Also, Illumi was drawn with an evil two bit villain grin after Killua started crying in the anime.
Get cancer
>>134576035
People who care more about the cinematography like 99 more.
People who say they care about faithfulness like 11 more even if it left out Kaito.
99 has a more unique, thriller, feeling.
11 more of a generic battle shounen feeling.
I'm not good with words, but a pretty interesting read about how 99 direction is better can be found here: https://twolongfourtwitlonger.wordpress.com/2014/12/21/hxh-99-hxh-2011-btw/
If you're not baiting, but genuinely curios, I advise you read it.
>>134581207
>that repeating 2 frame animation of hisoka running
>those still frames with FUCKING SPEED LINES REEEEEEEEEE
>those fucking sound effects in the zoldyck fight (the animation in its really good if you dont mind getting motion sickness cuz the background animators decided to fucking spin everything which looks fucking ugly)
No yeah 2011 BTFO in only 2 clips.
>You wouldn't know that
What the fuck is this supposed to mean?
>>134581282
I will break the 2000 character limit if I try to list all the bad scenes.
As for the Meruem fight, I think you're being a little harsh. It may not be the best adaptation of a fight in anime history but for once, the shitty director actually understands cues and scene flow. Meruem turning into a pinball was pretty silly but on the other hand it also shows that by using the pillars, he was converting his flight path from being hit away into an offensive maneuver. Am I stretching here?
Anyway you should look at Pariston's grin, it was way worse and basically ruined his character.
>>134580606
The problem with 2011's coloring is that in the beginning all of the characters are rendered in bright neon-ish colors, but then the coloring gradually devolves into this bland, washed out shit. It's not even consistent. Not to mention there is an INSANE amount of forgettable shots in 2011, it's fucking criminal. It's honestly ridiculous how the massive amount of poor shots completely outweighs the small handful of good shots (the same ones that people use to defend the 2011 direction).
1999 may have fucked up with the filler, but I can still appreciate it so much more because of how great the visual direction is.
I honestly believe Yorkshin was the lowest point of the 2011 adaptation.
>>134576035
>Millenials
>>134581429
You dingus, he's probably saying in 2011 HxH IS a generic shonen and doesn't ever change tone
I watched 99 for the first time in 2010 and loved it.
Couldn't stand 2011. It's bland, generic, and lazy in comparison.
Wow, I used to be the only one who would complain about the 2011 anime's shitty direction while it was airing. If I was really lucky, one other person would support my arguments. There are at least 3 now. I can finally rest in peace.
>>134580518
Togashi strenght isn't really writing. He's not that bad at it, but not even that good.
What he's really good at is world building.
>>134581498
Marry me, I thought I was the only person who saw how visually atrocious York Shin was in the 2011 adaptation. I thought I was watching HxH turn into a learning experience for shitty art interns. I'm sad one of the biggest series in Japan didn't receive better.
>>134580976
>>134580665
This is next level of stupid.
How can someone be this deluded is beyond me.
>>134581681
You have no idea what you're talking about, Togashi's pretty bad at world building. What he excels at is impactful and dynamic storytelling, character interactions, creative fights, and paneling.
>it's another shitty 99 vs 2011 thread
>>134581429
Anon was saying that '99 had bad animation, which is incorrect.
Also you don't get it?
>>134581484
I don't know, the fight was a real painful experience to get through but maybe I should try rewatching it with a more open mind sometime.
I want Killua posting back.
>>134581645
There has been people that hated the direction from day one, it's just that there were drowned out by people claiming that the direction didn't matter.
>>134581736
It's because it is big why it didn't receive better, because Madhouse knew that they would make money regardless.
>>134580976
There are people who genuinely believe 2011 has good coloring, and there is this anon who believes his image is a good example of it.
>>134581736
It's really upsetting such a critically acclaimed arc like Yorkshin was handled so poorly by Madhouse, it's my favorite arc too.
I think 1999 Yorkshin + the OVA's are great though.
>>134581921
Well, it's up to you but it's the only adaptation we'll ever get of that fight so you might as well try to squeeze some entertainment out of it.
>>134576035
1999 director: Furuhashi
2011 director: literally who?
1999 Good animation team: Akira Matsushima, Takayuki Goto, Shinobu Tagashira, Norio Matsumoto
2011 Good animation team: Literally who?
That pretty much sums it up.
>>134582200
We thought the same thing about '99 adaptation years ago.
>>134582251
Hey, Hidehiko Sawada and Tomoko Mori were good!
That's about it though.
>>134582276
I mean come on, there was much more reason to reanimate the series with just the 99 anime than there is with the 11 anime. With two adaptations, with one being 148 episodes long, what studio is ever going to remake the whole thing? The best we'll get is a continuation.
How can you unironically consider good writer someone that kills the villains with a shitty asspull bomb?
>>134582251
2011 had some good animation directors, but they were few and hardly involved.
>>134576035
2011 was superior most of the time. I didn't like the ant arc of 2011 though and the greed island arc was a lot better in 99
>>134576035
99 has shitty sound, filler and bad pacing. Horrendous tone and inconsistent characterization.
2011 has average visual direction, fantastic OST, great pacing and faithfully adapts the story. It's not even a question of which is better.
Because this:
https://twolongfourtwitlonger.wordpress.com/2014/12/21/hxh-99-hxh-2011-btw/
>>134582794
>fantastic OST, great pacing and faithfully adapts the story
>>134582251
>2011 Good animation team: Literally who?
Tomoko Mori, Hidehiko Sawada, Kazuto Nakazawa, Yoshihiro Kanno, Takahiro Abiru.
>>134582794
>fantastic OST
Why does everyone only mention this but never actually says anything about OST placement? It doesn't matter if the songs are good if they are more often than not badly used.
Let me give you a typical tracklist of any episode
>Kingdom of Predators
>Hashire!
>Legend of The Martial Artist
>repeat
>>134582362
Again see >>134582276
There are a lot of reasons why companies choose to re-adapt a series.
>>134582794
>2011
>faithfully adapts the story
My favorite meme
>fantastic OST
It had some good orchestral tracks and your averege shonen "hard rock" boring songs.
Also the "director" pressed shuffle in every episode achieving a wonderfull music fuck up.
>great pacing
CA's pacing was even worse than the manga which is by it self shit.
>1999
>shitty sound
Truth if we are talking about sound effects. Voice acting and music is excellent.
>filler
Since when this was a bad thing?
>Horrendous tone
check your eyes.
>>134583078
>sound effect complaints
They are essentially complaining about something that was the product of it's time. Essentially they are complaining that the time it was made.
>>134583018
Uh, I REALLY don't think it's gonna happen, but if it ever does you can say I told you so and I'll be admitting I was wrong somewhere across the globe.
>>134576035
>Why is 99 regarded as superior to 2011?
it's not
>>134582794
>Horrendous tone
You can leave now.
>>134582952
Stop posting that 2011 shell of a character.
if you like 99 better you have literally shit taste and should kill yourself you fucking mememaster
God this argument gets so fucking old.
>Hurr Durr muh 11 anime
>Hurr Durr muh 99 anime
This is almost as bad as /sp with
>Hurr Durr muh 80-90s NBA handcheck gg
>Hurr Durr NBA now much more skilled
Its an argument on generation people that saw 99 first are going to defend it as a way better adaptation, people that saw the 11 first are going to defend theirs as a better adaptation. Everyone saying the 99 adaptation is that older uncle in your family gatherings that goes "back in my day" and the people that love the 11 adaption are the 12 year olds looking at said uncle with "wtf" going through there heads. Just stfu about which is better be glad that it got two adaptations which is a hell lot more than 80% of other anime in general.
>>134583257
>You can leave now.
This is a HxH thread, get your memetastic filler shit out of here so we can discuss the canon HxH present in the manga and 2011 adaptation.
>requeim 99 is literally kuroro waving his hands at nothing
>requeim 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-Yg9N-q0Ok
>>134582990
>implying the ost of 99 is any better
rofl
just look at the trick tower bit when gon wins the candle dilemma and tell me which one has better ost placement
>>134583366
>requeim 99 is literally chrollo orchestrating the event
>requiem 11 is bad direction and stills with good music
>>134583425
>99fag damage control
>>134583425
>stills
>saying lies on the internet
2011 was a mistake
>>134580068
>A good example would be the Gon / Killua / Kite vs Army of Ants fight in the forest. In the manga, Gon says he's going first. That's that. In 2011, they play rock paper scissors to determine who goes first.
That's what you get for speedreading to level up your MAL level. They're literally doing it in the last panel.
2011 is probably the best anime ever made
inb4 kyanus moeshitters butthurt
I like how 11fags can only communicate by being aggressive and are unable to provide valid, logical reasons behind their choice. I don't even like 99 that much but just fuck off, you braindead new age Crunchyroll faggots. Go watch Tokyo Ghoul or something.
>>134583662
I didn't like both 99 and 2011, but I agree.
The fambase brought by the new anime ruined hxh threads on /a/.
>>134583679
>speedreading
Please don't bring this shitty meme to HxH threads.
>>134583685
>>134583714
>I like how 11fags can only communicate by being aggressive and are unable to provide valid, logical reasons behind their choice.
>post argument
>asshurt 99fag spills
>muh atmosphere
>muh kaito in ep 1
>muh mutafucka yorkshin
>>134583679
2011 baby blown the fuck out
they were both so boring i dropped them 10 episodes in anyway
>>134583339
If you actually think the tone is bad in 1999 you most likely have brain damage.
>get your memetastic filler shit out of here
I wasn't even talking about the filler you stupid fuck. Are you genuinely retarded?
>>134583754
i'm bloody serious
>there are still people who try to claim 2011 is faithful to the manga after episode 76
>>134583765
Nice, you're just so funny and savvy. I bet you're a pretty big deal on the MAL forums.
>>134583819
>If you actually think the tone is bad in 1999 you most likely have brain damage.
>fun adventure is changed to dark melodrama for the sake of being edgy
>I should feel happy about it
99fags are narutards I swear
>replying to someone who uses "meme" as an argument
>>134583858
can't handle the truth?
>>134583820
>>134583862
>fun adventure is changed to dark melodrama for the sake of being edgy
HxH is supposed to be a "fun adventure" now? Citation fucking needed.
>>134583714
Stay mad you butthurt 99fag; if you want to know why 2011 is popular just reads the dozens upon dozens of critical analysis on the internet.
>>134583848
>changing one detail is worse than changing the entire tone of the series
the OST is fucking garbage in 2011, there is no atmosphere.
Also, fucking BRIGHT COLORS High contrast cancer.
Not to mention shit-tier voice-acting.
Censorship and trash pacing, skipping through the early events way too quickly and dedicating no time to introducing and setting up characters properly.
2011 is a dumpster by comparison
>>134583932
It's like these kids don't know who the fuck Togashi is. Holy shit.
>>134583862
>2011fags calling 99fags narutards
>>134583932
ging literally said that what matters is the fun and friends you had trough your adventure not the result of it, fucking narutard
>>134583901
You really trolled me good man. Liking 99 or the manga is just a 'meme' right? 11 must be the best anime ever made. No one can give civil arguments why it's a shitty anime even though there are plenty in this thread, right?
>>134583974
I'm a 99fag and I love Naruto, fuck off.
at least its not as bad as one pieces anime
>>134583937
>just reads the dozens upon dozens of critical analysis on the internet
Link me to one who praises 2011 as an adaptation and not just the story Togashi wrote.
2011 had a better netero vs meruem fight.
>>134583937
>9fag meme reaction
Get the fuck out you underage 2011 trash.
>>134583952
>muh kite
>muh edgy dark colors
>having shit taste in music
>disliking any of 2011 VAs except Hisoka
>>>/v/
>>134583990
spilling opinions without proofs and examples isn't a valid argument
99fag argumentation is basically post the 10 stills of the anime that they kept jerking off to for 15 years
>>134583765
>>134584033
>muh kite
You realize that adding "muh" in front of it doesn't make it a less valid argument, right?
>>134583994
>2011 narutards pretending to be 99fags.
This thread is getting more and more pathetic.
2011 cancer strikes again. Somebody most have alerted Reddit and MAL.
>>134583937
I know why it's popular. You can circlejerk about it with your equally stupid buddies though, enjoy never being able to understand competent direction and why people smarter than you criticize the 11 adaptation. This isn't about the 99 anime.
It makes me glad that you're dumb and that you'll never be happy in life because of it.
Is anon who made 1999 frame stitches from EncoderAnon rip here? Can you post some more please? They look great.
It's OK to be a little gay for Killua right?
Also does anybody have a picture comparing 99s adult Kon to 11s?
>>134584084
Kaito wasn't added in the first episode of 2011 because the staff wasn't sure if the chimera ant arc would be animated or not due the terrible schedule of the manga they considered to end the anime in greed island, so kite would never be showed in the anime
the final decision about animating the chimera ants arc was made around the Phantom Troupe movie where they teased kaito
Just because kaito shows in the first chapter of the manga doesn't mean he needs to be in self contained adaptation where he could never show again
happy now
>>134584107
>me smart
>you dumb
99fags, everyone.
*Gon
Who's is best girl btw? My vote is for Biscuit.
>>134584107
>self masturbation over liking a poorly directed fillerfest
>thinking you're smarter than the qualified critics who consider 2011 a masterpiece
>>>/trash/
>>134584219
Kite is a huge part of Gon's character you retarded apologist.
And his silhouette is shown in the anime.
>>134584219
CA didn't exist back when the 99 anime started but they still put Kite in it because he's an important character.
Also you're looking over the fact that they changed his role in the story and greatly downplayed his relationship with Gon for some reason, with all the stupid filler when he's "introduced".
>>134584258
He is still the same part of Gon's character
Silhouette =/= he will be animated
if anything it was a little fan-service and call back to the manga
>>134584313
>He is still the same part of Gon's character
And that's how you catch a retarded 2011fag.
>>134584349
now post the next scene of Gon glittering his eyes to Kaito in admiration
>>134584255
Do you realize that all the "qualified critics" only talk about the story?
See >>134584012, post someone who praises the anime and not the source material.
>>134584255
>masturbating over nick creamer
>>134584397
You mean the one where he doesn't even remember his name?
>>134584423
>post someone that says the anime of hxh without saying that hxh is good
are you retarded?
>>134584021
It would have been better in 99 had they reached that part.
>>134584255
>millennials who think they're anime fans because they've watched 5 whole series
>2011 is a masterpiece because it's better than Naruto and Bleach
>qualified critics
How many of these people know anything the manga? How many acclaimed works has the 11 director been in charge of? I don't know if you think you're being an epic troll but no one who knows what they're talking about is gonna be convinced otherwise by your shitposting. Enjoy your mediocre adaptations though, being stupid must be nice.
>>134584349
https://desustorage.org/a/search/image/55x0RKDN80Xl19ddCooGnw/
Reminder 99fags are this autistic
>>134584523
I'm pretty sure he says that he remembers him and that's why a flashback starts
>>134584527
>u stupid stop liking the better adaptation!!! u should be hispter!!
i'm laffin
>>134584579
What's your point?
Why are you arguing with people who are genuinely retarded or trying to provoke reactions out of you? 11's quality is obviously all over the place, just ignore them.
Go on and reply to me that I'm only saying this because I know you're right or something, how hilarious.
>>134584527
http://wrongeverytime.com/2014/08/04/imperfect-beings-hunter-x-hunter-and-the-chimera-ant/
Most viewed Chimera Ant analysis on the internet is from a "2011 millenial".
Get your shitty memefiller out of here, 2011fags.
>>134584738
I liked the 2011 anime but what this reviewer is gushing about is the story togashi wrote, nothing to do with the quality of the anime
>>134584527
>Enjoy your mediocre adaptations though, being stupid must be nice.
You must have narcissitic personality disorder to believe a series as critically acclaimed as HxH2011 is all from "stupid people", even when some of them are published authors. Seek some counseling.
>>134579375
Pretty much. The original had its own atmosphere, but that didn't make it better. The only things the old anime did better were music and OP themes.
>>134580412
>Departure is probably the best opening in the last five years
>>134584817
"faithful adaptation"
>>134584826
The anime successfully conveying the characters and themes of the source is the highest praise an adaptation could have.
Not enough. Keep it coming.
>>134584919
Oh I know it's just what these fags are all arguing about is not addressed in that review
the ost is not talked about, the filler/changes, the coloring and lighting etc thats all the 99 fags care about
>>134584738
Okay, some liberal arts faggot wrote an essay elaborating on themes that were presented in plain view. What does that have to do with the adaptation anyway? He's just praising Togashi's writing.
Why does something need to be a good adaptation to be a good anime?
99 is more enjoyable.
>>134584919
Except that's not even true and the guy who wrote that article hasn't read the manga.
>>134585007
>99fag attempting to shit on the manga
kek
>>134581033
hisokas 99 voice sounded like some wimp
Manga > 99 > 2011
Can we all agree on this, right?
>>134581681
Are you retarded? World building is one of his biggest weaknesses, along with long term planning. Otherwise his writing is pretty great.
>>134585069
Yes.
>>134585069
Manga > 99 > 2011 > GI OVAs
Fixed
>>134584930
i don't understand how people didn't understand gons transformation
>>134585069
This is correct.
>>134585102
Manga > 2011 > 99 Yorkshin >>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 99 Hunter Exam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GI OVAs
Fixed
>>134585102
This is the only correct answer
>>134584844
It's from people who are stupid, people who haven't read the manga, people who have very little experience with the medium, or people who connect to specific tangential elements in the 11 anime on a personal or pathological level. There is nothing, aside from VERY FEW INSTANCES, that the anime does better than the manga.
If I'd never experienced the manga, I'd probably think this shitty adaptation was good. By the way, my cousin is an author and he's not very smart. Stop making points that mean nothing, you fucking moron. You can like your terrible anime in peace, isolated from sensible people.
>>134581498
hurr durr first part has too much colors
hurr durr the second part doesnt have enough colors
>>134585156
>2011 > 99 Yorkshin
bad bait
>>134584738
>dicuss about the anime adaptation
>post a review about the story that could be applied to the manga as well
This is how retarded 2011fags are.
>>134585038
I wasn't shitting on the manga, I've never even read the manga. I've seen both 99 and 11 though, and I enjoyed 99 more. I don't even see how the manga is relevant to the discussion.
People don't argue whether Oh Brother, Where At Thou? is a closer adaptation than the 1997 The Oddesey, they just accept that it's a better movie.
Adaptations just rape the source material unless the original creator is involved with the adaptation. Accuracy is irrelevant to quality.
>>134585156
Swap 99 YS and 2011, I can agree with everything else
>>134585156
99 Hunter Exam that low
>Being this underage
>>134585199
You'd have a fair point if 2011fags didn't try to claim that it's a faithful adaptation all the time.
>>134583754
>Frogposting
Kill yourself.
>>134585179
Are you not reading what I'm saying? Anime critics, people who watch and review anime for a living, consider 2011 one of the medium's greats. In comparison you're a nostalgiafag jerking off his own intellect because he likes a shitty, incomplete, fillerfest adaptation.
>There is nothing, aside from VERY FEW INSTANCES, that the anime does better than the manga.
What's your point? The 2011 anime is a fine alternative to experience the story in animated form.
>>134585156
>Manga >
>>134585156
>2011 yorkshin over 1999 Yorkshin
Oh man that's hilarious. Kill yourself.
Each version of Hunter x Hunter has its own flaws, be it the manga, the '99 adaptation, or the '11 adaptation.
Ultimately it comes down to your own personal tastes as to which is best.
>>134585399
>FMA 2003 image
>likes 99
nostalgia fag detected
I know that there are 99fags, manga fags and 2011 fags, but there aren't any 2003 ova fags?
>>134585355
>Anime critics said so
There are people who will really use this as an argument.
>>134585265
See >>134584738
If it wasn't a faithful adaptation there wouldn't be a great analysis from someone who only watched the 2011 anime.
>>134585394
>posting literally the one chapter that hasn't been redrawn to try and make a point
Now this is what i call epic
>>134583952
>shit tier voice acting
did you not hear gon when he was getting pissed at pitou for healing komugi.
>mfw 99 fag will keep jerking off to their low quality skills because their anime is never getting a remaster
>>134585460
He was claiming those who like 2011 are "stupid or lacking experience with the medium". How is my argument not appropriate?
>>134585460
It's probably Nick Creamy looking for blog hits, the article gets shilled all the time in HxH threads.
>>134585464
That analysis is accurate in part, but didn't talk about other elements that were present in that arc. Elements present in the manga and butchered in the anime.
>>134585451
I loved it as a kid, but now it looks terrible. I wish 2011 hadn't rushed GI, it's my favorite arc.
>>134585527
>tfw 99 fags will always be mad that 2011 is more popular and more acclaimed
>>134585431
Fuck off with your nostalgia shit faggot. I watched 2011 first and 99 yorkshin easily outclasses 2011's version of the arc.
>>134584738
>killua
>unconditionally loyal
>>134585594
It's hilarious how they fucked up even a simple copy-paste.
>>134585594
TAIL
CLIPPING
Komugi a cute.
>>134585355
Are you fucking blind? I'm not arguing that the 99 anime is better, I'm arguing that the 11 anime is not good -- and by extension that the manga is better. You're not reading a single thing I'm saying. I asserted that the opinions of these 'critics' are invalid 1) because they likely have no knowledge of the manga and 2) canonical faithfulness is not the only quality of a good adaptation, and you have nothing to offer in return.
Also, why can't you voice your own opinions about this matter instead of citing people who you think will win the argument for you? I thought you were trolling me but you're actually dumb. Stop wasting my time and fuck off.
>>134585668
>>134585689
>anime studio that has to draw thousands of frames per episode weekly fucks up a tiny part of Togashi most detailed page ever
STOP. THE. PRESSES.
Hunter Exam: 1999 > manga > 2011
Zoldyck Family: manga > 1999 > 2011
Heavens Arena: manga > 1999 = 2011
Yorkshin City: 1999 > manga > 2011
Greed Island: manga > 2011 > 1999
Chimera Ant: manga > 2011 except for episodes 116, 130, 131. The Gon-Pitou conflict was the only thing which Madhouse improved.
Chairman Election: manga > 2011, atmosphere of the arc was completely ruined.
>>134585756
>Togashi most detailed page ever
They animated the DC arc already?
>>134585703
In with the important things.
>>134585668
>>134585689
>>134585704
And I'm arguing that '11 is good, and its critical acclaim reflects this. Canonical faithfulness aside, the show’s fantastic aesthetics elevate it above almost everything out there - in direction, in sound design, in pacing, in animation, in basically every relevant aesthetic metric, 2011 excels.
>>134585786
Heavens arena was fucking garbage in 99, i can agree with the rest though.
Because Ohayou is just that good
>>134585884
>the show’s fantastic aesthetics elevate it above almost everything out there - in direction, in sound design, in pacing, in animation, in basically every relevant aesthetic metric
How much are you getting paid to say this?
>>134585895
heavens arena is garbage in all 3 adaptations
>>134585786
Hunter Exam: manga > 2011 >>>>> 1999
Zoldyck Family: 2011 > manga > 1999
Heavens Arena: manga = 1999 = 2011
Yorkshin: manga > 1999 > 2011
Greed Island: manga > 2011 >>>>>> 1999
Chimera Ant (NGL): ,anga > 2011
Chimera Ant (Palace Invasion): 2011 > manga
Chairman Election: manga = 2011
>>134585830
ftfy
>>134585985
I'm getting paid the butthurt of deluded 99 nostalgiafags.
>>134585884
>Canonical faithfulness aside
See >>134584817
Killua is cute!
>>134586085
>little differences of 4 minutes are worse than entire episodes of filler
epic
>>134586005
Please praise this generic shot more.
>>134586085
>3 fillers across 148 episode run, with only one of them lasting more than 2 minutes
Woah..
I hate how 2011fags make all CAfags look bad.
>>134585884
And I'll just argue back that its merits are unearned, merely borrowed from Togashi's creation. In fact, it mars and rapes the original by butchering the atmosphere and presentation of key scenes. I'll name as many as I can if you really want me to but I'm tired and I'd rather not. It is undeniable that the director is a nobody, and the works he's staffed before have been flops. Did his muse finally come to him? I doubt it. On the other hand, Togashi is an acclaimed veteran of the industry. This isn't even a fair comparison.
You can think what you want but based on the reasons I've given, it's only logical to think what I do. You can tell me its aesthetics are unmatched just like I'll say I disagree. By the way, you should toss the idea that someone's opinions are lesser and groundless because they're not writers for ANN.
Why can't you all just fucking enjoy both? It's the same fucking series.
>>134585884
>direction
Non existant except for a couple of episodes and shots every 30 episodes. Rest is just copy-pasting panels.
>sound design
What? That probably was the worst thing about the series. They didn't know how to use the soundtrack (notable Hashire! )and it felt almost random at times.
>pacing
Are you serious? Just look at the CA arc. Granted, it's a really hard one to adapt into an anime properly, but it's still really bad.
>animation
Terrible. There are a handful of episodes in total where the animation stands out.
It's not even faithful to the manga, there are a lot of details that are changed, without mentionning the obvious one. They also added a scene with about 50 million death flags for Kite in the first half of episode 85 for some reason, it really was stupid.
>>134586209
>an adaptation borrowed from the source material
jesus fucking christ I can't believe i'm reading this
>>134586124
As long as you're aware that the 2011 adaptation isn't always canonically faithful to the manga, I don't care.
>>134586005
>Chimera Ant (Palace Invasion): 2011 > manga
Are you fucking serious? That's probably the thing they butchered the most out of everything.
>>134586222
We do, but while posting we use our autistic cover up.
>>134586011
>>134586305
it is faithful tho
I can't understand 99 fags, if you change something (like they did alot and praise themselves for it) it's bad
if you don't change anything is "non existant direction" (>>134586249)
I stand for my statement that 99fags are narutards and bleachfags
95% of what's good about the 11 anime is good because the manga is good. The 5% are rare, decent moments scattered sporadically throughout. The voice acting was pretty good, but art and animation were all over the place. How did they manage to make Nen look so terrible?
>>134586131
>amazing cinematography
>posts the same unimaginative shot every time
>>134586377
>an adaptation is good because the source material is good
I-i can't
it's just so stupid what you're saying
>>134586267
It doesn't work for any of its merits with good direction and intelligent handling, it just lets the manga's writing carry it on its back. Of course it borrows -- does it generate anything of its own? Stop missing the point you stupid fucking idiot. Are you a woman or a pseudointellectual college student?
>>134586370
If you use creative shots and take advantage of the medium (like 99 most of the time) then it's good. If you color manga panels, barely animate them and call it directing then it's shit (the vast majority of 2011). If you add filler and inconsistent characterization (this applies to both 99 and 2011) then it's bad.
It's not that difficult to grasp, is it?
>>134586499
>Are you a woman
Oh no you don't, not here. Fuck off back to /r9k/ with this bullshit.
>>134586499
>>134586540
I'm out, you guys are retarded
have fun with your low quality rip I guess
>>134586417
Right, the JJBA adaptation is only good because of its source. Same with OPM or Kaiji or other good adaptations right? It just needs to show what happens right?